Obama’s Wish for More American Defeat in WWII?

Jamie Glazov is Frontpage Magazine's editor. He holds a Ph.D. in History with a specialty in Russian, U.S. and Canadian foreign policy. He is the author of the critically acclaimed and best-selling, United in Hate: The Left’s Romance with Tyranny and Terror. His new book is High Noon For America. He is the host of Frontpage’s television show, The Glazov Gang, and he can be reached at jamieglazov11@gmail.com. Visit his site at JamieGlazov.com.


WikiLeaks recently released a secret cable revealing that President Obama tried to apologize to the Japanese for the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki during his tour to that country in 2009. He obviously didn’t think that bowing to the emperor would suffice to obtain forgiveness for the evil actions (in his mind) of the country that he now led. The apology never materialized because even the Japanese themselves blocked it. Indeed, Japan’s Vice Foreign Minister Mitoji Yabunaka imparted to U.S. Ambassador John Roos that “the idea of President Obama visiting Hiroshima to apologize for the atomic bombing during World War II is a ‘nonstarter’.” The Japanese feared the apology would be exploited by anti-nuclear groups and opponents of the U.S.-Japanese alliance.

That Obama sought to apologize to the Japanese for ending a brutal war that they started and for doing it in such a way that it saved millions of lives on both sides is a disturbing testament to the destructive mindset of the man that leads the United States. On this occasion, it would be important to reflect on the ingredients of the decision that led President Truman to drop the bomb on the two Japanese cities on August 6th and 9th of 1945.

By August 1945, the war with Japan showed signs of continuing indefinitely and the use of the atomic bombs was the only alternative left to President Truman and his officials. As American forces advanced closer to the Japanese mainland, the Japanese refusal to surrender did not diminish but increased. At that time, Japan possessed more than 2 million soldiers and 30 million citizens who were prepared to choose “death over dishonor.” This reality had already been horrifically established by the kamikaze pilots and Japanese soldiers who fought at Iwo Jima.

The Japanese view of war was in sharp contrast to the American view: death in war was not something to be avoided, but to be enthusiastically embraced. The Shinto cult, for example, which taught an extremist philosophy of self-sacrifice, preached that suicide was glorious, while surrender was an unfathomable shame. It was at Saipan that even Japanese civilians committed suicide by jumping off cliffs rather than surrender. Thousands of Japanese soldiers were known for blowing themselves up by hand-grenades rather than surrender.

The Japanese leadership never disguised its contempt for the idea of surrender, repeatedly making known its readiness to fight to the last man, woman and child. The Japanese infamous slogan called for “the honorable death of a hundred million” — the entire population. Allied intercepts of communications revealed that Japanese militarists were gunning for a bloody, till-the-death battle over the home islands. This explains why the Japanese military was hastily building up forces on the island of Kyushu, where, by 1945, there were 14 divisions and 735,000 troops ready to sacrifice their lives in battle.

Japan’s negative response to the Allies’ Potsdam Declaration left Truman with no choice. He knew, as General Marshall’s reports confirmed, that at least a half million U.S. lives would be lost in an invasion of Japan. That was a conservative estimate, as the possibility existed that up to one million Allied casualties would be suffered. Meanwhile, it was estimated that potential Japanese casualties stood at two million. This also does not take into account the casualties that would have been incurred in defeating the 2.5 million Japanese on the occupied Asian mainland.

Truman and his advisers knew that America had just suffered 75,000 U.S. casualties at Iwo Jima and Okinawa. For nearly four years America had witnessed its soldiers and sailors being killed by the militant and fanatical Japanese military. Every day that Japan refused to surrender, the death toll on both sides rose, while Allied POWs in Japanese concentration camps were being tortured and executed.

Truman knew that if an American invasion was carried through, the 100,000 Allied POWs would die. He was aware of Tokyo’s order that, at the moment that the Americans invaded Japan’s home islands, the POWs were to be tortured and executed. Many POWs had already been ordered to dig their own graves. Tens of thousands of Allied POWs had already died from beheadings, unimaginable torture and starvation.

The slaughter of civilian populations was not born in Hiroshima and Nagasaki; such was accepted military practice on all sides. Japan’s rape of Nanking (1937-38) exceeded the casualties of Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined (approximately 200,000).  The death factories of Manchuria, the Bataan death march, the forced prostitution of Korean women, the terror of the Kempai-Tai (the Japanese secret police), and its concentration camps across occupied Asia, all manifested the savage barbarity of the Japanese regime. Those are the crimes against humanity for which an apology is due – and for which we are still waiting. But let’s not hold our breath for Obama to demand one, or even to mention the tragic crimes for which one is due.

All in all, the bombing of the two Japanese cities was the quickest way to end the brutal war with the least amount of deaths on both sides. And it did just that. The greatest crime awaiting mankind at that terrible time was not the use of the atomic bomb, but the more horrifying reality that would have followed its non-use.

By planning to apologize for the U.S. bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Obama has shown that, if he were president at that time, he would have perpetrated the continuation of a barbaric war for years, which would have caused the loss of millions of more lives on both sides. But that is actually a positive scenario of Obama as president in WWII, for it is based on the assumption that Obama would have even supported an American victory; indeed, with Obama’s hope to apologize for the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki now before us, it appears that Obama may well have supported an American surrender to the Japanese.

To get the whole story on why leftists yearn for American defeat and regret American victory, read Jamie Glazov’s book, United in Hate: The Left’s Romance With Tyranny and Terror.


  • gtop

    Did Hiroshima civilians attack Pearl Harbor?

    Is US war strategy to nuke civilians to make enemy surrender?

    • R.Denham

      The only disappointing thing about this article is that fools such as gtop and WLIL are allowed to post their inane comments. Roscoe Denham

      • WLIL

        It is only fools like you that try to link me with gtop. gtop meaningless questions is his/her own personal question and which is nothing to do with me. Nobody is asking you to read my comment anyway, how inane it maybe.

      • gtop

        If you justify massacring of innocent civilians to make enemy surrender, you are also justifying 9/11.

        Know your shame.

        • WLIL

          You are the one that is without shame. What about the many civilians that were tortured by the asian/eastern/japanese people? War should be avoided. No one is justifying anything. Eastern barbarity and cruelty need to be acknowledged and prevented so that future generation will not suffer.

          • gtoop

            Then why do most Americans justify Hiroshima?

          • voted against carter

            gtoop,..

            PLEASE remove your asshat prior to posting.

            Your comprehension ability is suspect so I try and keep it simple.

            You are an idiot. STOP proving it with every statement you make.

          • Working

            So you would have supported the death of millions of soldiers and civilians on both sides if President Truman decided not to use the atom bomb and had American troops invade Japan. As it was stated in the article Japanese troops and civilians would rather have died fighting so they could retain their honor instead of surrendering in shame

          • gtoop

            >if President Truman decided not to use the atom bomb and had American troops invade Japan.

            There would be no more death if u dont try to invade.

            >Japanese troops and civilians would rather have died fighting so they could retain their honor instead of surrendering in shame

            Then why did they surrender?

          • 072591

            Many didn't. That day, the Emperor of Japan, in the first ever public address to the people, announced it was time to, "accept the unacceptable." The military leaders were determined to keep fighting to the bitter end and even attempted a coup to stop the emperor from surrendering, which is why he did the public address before any other actions could be taken. He was literally considered a god, and even then, there were a lot of people who didn't accept it; that day still holds the record for the most suicides in Japan. So

          • gtoop

            Japan surrendered anyway.
            They were not determined to fight to death.
            Why did u nuke innocent civilians?

          • wsk

            The last Japanese soldier surrendered on Guam in 1975…

          • sharpsrifle

            Pearl Harbor, Nanking, Bataan, biological warfare experiments being carried out on POW's, "comfort women," the Thailand-Burma Railway, the invasion of Manchuria and annihilation of MILLIONS of Chinese…

            Plus the Japanese were ready to fight to the absolute end of their society. Estimates of American casualties in operations Olympic and Coronet ran close to 1,000,000 KIA and WIA…with a duration of fighting to last into 1948 or 1949! Like it or not, the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki (plus the subsequent incendiary attack on Tokyo carried out by 1,000 B-29's) SAVED lives. The Japanese culture and society weren't wiped out, as they would have been had the main islands been invaded.

            Remove your head from your anus, schmuck.

          • gtoop

            >Pearl Harbor, Nanking, Bataan, biological warfare experiments being carried out on POW's, "comfort women," the Thailand-Burma Railway, the invasion of Manchuria and annihilation of MILLIONS of Chinese…

            Did Hiroshima women and children do that?

            >the Japanese were ready to fight to the absolute end of their society.

            Then why did they surrender? U r a complete idiot.

            >Estimates of American casualties in operations Olympic and Coronet ran close to 1,000,000 KIA and WIA..

            If u dont try to invade there will be no more death.

            >Like it or not, the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki (plus the subsequent incendiary attack on Tokyo carried out by 1,000 B-29's) SAVED lives.

            Then 9/11 saved Arab lives and it is justified.

          • sharpsrifle

            Hiroshima was a military target. It was a munitions distribution center and naval port. As for civilians, the Japanese aircraft industry had dispersed manufacturing of non-airframe componants into cottage industries. In other words, instruments, engine parts, weapons parts…the non-fuselage and wings parts of aircraft were being built in peoples' houses. The firebombings of cities such as Kobe and Yokohama had as big an impact on Japanese aircraft production as did the daylight precision bombings of Bremen and Wiener-Neustadt had on German aircraft production.

            There were elements of the Japanese opposition (traitors to Tojo, just so you are clear) who went to Hirohito to plead for surrender. They saw what the B-29's and US submarines were doing…as well as how the fighting on Okinawa and Saipan had turned out. Tojo and the Japanese government DID try to have these men killed, but when Hirohito himself ordered the surrender, the majority of the Japanese General and Command Staffs complied (although a couple generals and at least one admiral wanted to assassinate Hirohito and continue resistance).

          • gtop

            NY is a military target so u justify 9/11 I see.

          • wsk

            stop confusing the issue with facts, The revisionist history folks' heads will explode

          • gtoop

            If u justify Hiroshima and Nagasaki u should also justify 9/11.

          • sharpsrifle

            "If you don't try to invade there will be no more death" is perhaps the STUPIDEST thing you could have said. Japan stepped in it DEEP when they attacked Pearl Harbor. Yamamoto knew that he'd have to defeat us within six months, or Japan would end up being destroyed. If we hadn't followed a "Hitler First" strategy, we may well have been sending B-24's based in the Aleutians down on Japan in early '44 (as was spelled out in an Army Air Forces plan for a northern approach to destroying Japanese industry).

            If you want to defeat an enemy, you engage him and destroy him. That's how wars are won…especially when YOU'RE the one attacked.

            Assuming the lotus posture, singing "Kumbaya" and sympathizing with those who attacked you is called "surrender" and "treason" and may get you retaliated against by those who sympathize with their own country.

          • gtop

            Did Hiroshima women and children attack Pearl Harbor?
            Use ur brain while u r alive.

          • UCSPanther

            Maybe you should tell that to the millions of Chinese civilians who were tortured, raped and murdered by rampaging Japanese soldiers in the late 1930s.

          • gtoop

            Did Hiroshima women and children torture , rape and murder millions of Chinese civilians?

            Use ur brain while u r alive.

          • UCSPanther

            Are you that stupid?

            Need I tell you that the Japanese were hell-bent on slaughtering everyone who was not Japanese, or that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were major manufacturing points and everyone in Japan was hell-bent on dying for their Emperor before nuclear fire reminded them why we have an instinct called "self-preservation".

            Arguing with you is as pointless as arguing with a Neo-Nazi about Dresden.

            The Japanese people by consensus chose to worship their Emperor as a god, believed that the highest honor was to die for him, hence their insane fearlessness, and believed their own "master race" BS, and as such, sought to murder anyone who was NOT Japanese, hence their brutal genocidal assault on Shanghai, Nanking and the surrounding countryside and anywhere else they landed, and their willingness to wantonly bomb civilian targets.

            As far as I am concerned with the bombs, they got a taste of their own medicine with respect to their own bombing campaign against the Chinese, and boy oh boy, they got the message fast.

            If they didn't surrender, they may as well would've had to name the third nuke "Godzilla" because Tokyo would've been next.

          • gtoop

            >Japanese were hell-bent on slaughtering everyone who was not Japanese

            If Japanese kill everyone else there is no point to win the war.

            >Hiroshima and Nagasaki were major manufacturing points

            NY is a major financial point so u justify 9/11?

            >hence their brutal genocidal assault on Shanghai, Nanking and the surrounding countryside and anywhere else they landed, and their willingness to wantonly bomb civilian targets.

            Did Hiroshima women and children do that?
            R they responsible for that?
            Do they deserve a nuke?

            >If they didn't surrender, they may as well would've had to name the third nuke "Godzilla"

            So u justify if Japan nuked NY and LA to make America surrender?

        • aspacia

          Civilians die in wars. When we attack our men are in uniform and we openly declare our intent. We are responsible for our government because we live in a representative democracy. It is the people who allow the rulers to rule, and it is on them to fire or overthrow inept leaders.

          • gtoop

            Al Qaeda declared war on US so 9/11 is justified?

          • sharpsrifle

            You are an enemy sympathizer and as such, are vermin. If you lived under the systems you apparently consider so superior, you'd already be dead because they'd recognize you as the weakling you are and would be eliminated. You only live to breathe and spread your filth here because we have a society which has compassion for miserable little losers…after all, 52 percent of the voters here elected an enemy sympathizing little cockroach like you to be president in 2008. May they and you burn in Hell.

          • aspacia

            Okay, where is the valid evidence this group declared war on us?

          • gtoop

            It was a declared war. Osama bin Laden had issued several communiques giving al Qaedas POV, that the USA should cease protecting Israel against the Palestinians and stop supporting the odious Saud regime by taking their troops out of Saudi Arabia.
            Just as the USA in Shock & Awe when they bombed Baghdad, they targeted infrastructure, banks, telephone companies, power utilities and government departments, in 9/11 al Qaeda struck at the heart of US strength, its multinational corporations, financial and utilities infrastructure.

          • UCSPanther

            I think you are scared of being cleansed with Nuclear fire, because you support Jihad.

            You keep pushing us with your attempts at conquest, and IT WILL HAPPEN.

          • aspacia

            Stating a point of view is not a declaration of war. Our POV is that Hamas accept Israel–is that also a declaration of war?

          • gtoop

            America didnt declare war in the Iraq War so America's invasion of Iraq was illegal?

        • aspacia

          Oh, surrender to who? Al Queda? Afghanistan? Approximately 70 million perished in WWII–soldiers and civilians perish in wars and only one side wins. We we the first to help rebuild our enemies lands. What other country has ever done this? NONE!

          • gtoop

            If Japan nuked NY and LA and massacred 300,000 civilians, then rebuild US do u appreciate it?

      • mgoldberg

        Especially since, as I posted- Japan announced that prisoners of war and all hostages they held would be killed had the US invaded Japan. This is also why the Japanese wanted nothing to do with Obama's apology bit: they would have had to relive that and more not mentioned in the article. The point that such as gtop miss is that real tyranny costs the lives of so very many innocents who have no choice but to go along or be killed by their own governments.

        • gtoop

          >Japan announced that prisoners of war and all hostages they held would be killed had the US invaded Japan

          Evidence?
          Dont be a liar.

        • aspacia

          Yes, thanks mgoldberg, for this reminder.

        • gtoop

          Where is your evidence? You liar.

          • UCSPanther

            You attack Israel, and you run the risk of triggering the Samson option.

            When the ME is a big nuclear wasteland after the smoke clears, all of Israel's technological, cultural and artistic wonder will be lost to you…forever, as will Palestine.

          • gtoop

            Then Israel should get out of ME.

          • wsk

            I would like to lift up the rock under which you reside and napalm your sorry, sodomizing ass…mucking foron.

          • gtoop

            Jews r aggressors and invaders.
            They shouldn't steal others' land i.e. Palestine.

    • aspacia

      Both cities were military munitions sites. BTW, U.S. POW's died in these strikes too. The POW's were based there specifically to prevent the Allies from bombing these munition sites.

      gtop, Japanese culture differs from ours and many would rather die than surrender.

      • gtoop

        Then as NY has a military base 9/11 is justified.

        • aspacia

          They did not target a military base; they targeted civilians in the Twin Towers. Also, they did not openly declare war and this was a brazen sneak attack. It seems that this is the only way Arabs/Muslims can will any battle.

          • gtoop

            US did not target a military base either; they targeted civilians in city center.
            They tried to murder as many civilians as possible to demoralize Japanese military.

            Americans are as bad terrorists as Al Qaeda.

          • aspacia

            So move to another land.

            Fat Man and Little Boy probably save a million Allied lives. The Japanese picked a fight; the Allies ended it. They had it coming.

          • gtoop

            >Fat Man and Little Boy probably save a million Allied lives.

            If u dont try to invade there wont be million Allied death.

            >Japanese picked a fight; the Allies ended it. They had it coming.

            Did Hiroshima women and children do that?
            Do u justify 9/11 as well?

          • aspacia

            We ended the war you dolt. Unconditional surrender is best to end further violence. We have not demanded unconditional surrender since the end of WWII, and have been stuck truces and at the 38th parallel and thwarted by UN interference. Hence, Nam and North Korea, Iraq, etc.

            You would probably be the first to bend over in a jailhouse yard and be the "b!tch" of the local bully. What a baby.

            We were attacked and we won–The point of war is to make you enemy die and you live.

            Did we attack Afghanistan prior to 9/11? No. Did we aid the Taliban in the ouster of the Soviets? Yes. We were rewarded with the 1993 attack, numerous other attacks on our interests worldwide and 9/11.

            You are making a false analogy.

          • gtoop

            Do u forget US invaded Iraq and supports Israel'r aggression on Palestinians?

      • gtoop

        >Japanese culture differs from ours and many would rather die than surrender.

        Then why did they surrender?
        R u stupid?

        • 072591

          Many didn't. That day, the Emperor of Japan, in the first ever public address to the people, announced it was time to, "accept the unacceptable." The military leaders were determined to keep fighting to the bitter end and even attempted a coup to stop the emperor from surrendering, which is why he did the public address before any other actions could be taken. He was literally considered a god, and even then, there were a lot of people who didn't accept it; that day still holds the record for the most suicides in Japan.

          • gtoop

            They surrendered after all.
            They were not determined to fight to death as you claimed.

            So why did u murder innocent civilians?

        • aspacia

          Their Living God, Emperor Hirohito surrendered and announced this before his warlords could take action against him. Remember, he was a puppet of the warlords, and most emperors had been for years, but the people worshiped him as a god.

          When posting, it helps if you write using English, not teen texting, which causes you to lose any semblance of credibility, especially with this English teacher. Right now, you appear as ignorant as most of my eleventh grade students.

          • gtoop

            They surrendered after all.
            They were not determined to fight to death as you claimed.

            So why did u murder innocent civilians?

          • aspacia

            Ignorance is no excuse. Many Japanese on the outer isles did commit suicide or fought to the death causing many of our troops to die.
            I repeat–Listen carefully–Are you listening–THEIR GOD HIROHITO TOLD THEM TO. WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF AN OBEDIENT SERVANT OF GOD? YOU WOULD SURRENDER TOO.

            Oh, it is "you" not "u" did you know?

          • gtoop

            Then why dint u ask Hirohito to let Japan surrender instead of murdering 300,000 innocent civilians?

          • UCSPanther

            That wasn't an option, moron.

          • gtoop

            Why not?
            Why did u murder 300,000 innocent civilians (women and children included) instead of negotiating armistice?

        • timwn

          "R u stupid?"
          Can you spell?

    • pennswoods

      Yes, if you read the article you would understand why the USA had no choice other than to nuke two Japanese cities in 1945 to immediatley end WW II. This terrbile choice saved the lives of as many a one million Allied soldiers and the lives of perhaps as many as two million Japanese civilans who would have died in a land invasion of the Japanese islands. These Japanese civilians were prepared to fight to the last rather than surrender. Oh, by the way, who attacked the USA at Pearl Harbor, British and Dutch colonial targets, as well as the Phillipines on December 7,1941?

      • gtoop

        Al Qaeda attacked WTC to end American aggression in the Middle East.
        This terrbile choice saved the lives of as many a one million Arab ppl.

        So u r justifying 9/11?

    • CChoate

      gtop: You're an idiot.

      YES – The purpose of using nuclear weapons is to kill as many of the enemy and their cities as possible in the shortest amount of time… Everyone if necessary.

      • gtoop

        So u justify 9/11 coz Al Qaeda tried to kill as many civilians as possible?

    • wsk

      No , but their relatives probably did, and the instruments of war were manufactured there. ( Mitsubishi A6M Zero , anyone?)

      • gtoop

        NY was financing US war effort so u justify 9/11?

  • WLIL

    Let the asians fight their own wars and their own barbarity in asia. That means there is no one ot blame.

  • bob

    Obama is following the orders of the former soviet union
    READ the 1963 – (45) goals of communism
    It is available online

    • aspacia

      True enough. Sigh, I had to read Marx, Engles, Luxenberg, et al while attending university.

  • WLIL

    Crimes against humanity had been perpetuated by some asians/nowhites even till now, but we are told to shut up whenever the nonwhites are the bullies/culprits.

    • intrcptr2

      Since Americans are such savages, you might feel better not speaking with us.

      So go sell your American-invented computer (Don't forget to cancel your cable TV account), and go learn another language so that you needn't look at anything in English while you are using a mouldboard plow, swiping the malarial mosquitos off your brow. Hopefully you won't break a leg and need any painkillers like Percocet.

      • utaemon

        >American-invented computer

        Japan invented computer, idiot.

    • aspacia

      Yes, Holder is a major problem and must go.

    • aspacia

      So go live elsewhere is we are so bloodthirsty. It appears you have not read regarding the many masscres committed by many other nations throughout history. We are not worse than other, and actually Native Americans were very bloodthirsty, often skinning opponents alive, to other Native Americans.

      • gtoop

        >Native Americans were very bloodthirsty, often skinning opponents alive, to other Native Americans.

        Do u mean white Americans are more bloodthirsty coz they nearly exterminated native Americans?

  • tarleton

    The Japanese were quasi medieval , hysterical and cruel …if the US had developed the A bomb a year or two earlier , they could have have launched A bomb attacks from Saipan without the need to invade Iwojima and Okinawa..they could have brought japan to it's knees with about 6-10 A bombs…there would be no more BANZAI !!! after that

    Anyone who has seen the chinese movie CITY OF LIFE AND DEATH about the horrific Rape Of Nanking knows what those gruesome creeps were capable of …the attacks on Hiroshima /Nagasaki were the very least they deserved

    ALL HAIL TRUMAN …he was a true hombre

    • gtop

      Hahahaha…..you idiot!

      “RAPE OF NANKING” is “FAKE OF NANKING”

      “The Rape of Nanking” is out of touch with reality. Iris Chang lived in a fantasy world.
      http://tamagawaboat.wordpress.com/2007/01/13/rape

      • Timwn

        I checked out your site. It's just some clown stating that it's a fake without any evidence. He tries to make an argument based on how many illegitimate births had to have occurred and then states they didn't occur. It's nonsense.
        Iris Chang made errors in her book but that's only her book. The basic fact of the Rape of Nanking is well documented, well known, and hardly a fake.

    • gtop

      Did Hiroshima civilians commit the Rape of Nanking?

      • voted against carter

        gtoop,..

        PLEASE remove your asshat prior to posting.

        Your comprehension ability is suspect so I try and keep it simple.

        You are an idiot. STOP proving it with every statement you make.

      • intrcptr2

        No, they merely loaded the troop transports and freighters which carried the rifles, rice cakes and katanas that the IJA used to INVADE CHINA.

        To be clear, you are a troll and not worth my time. But for the record, 9/11 was a cowardly attack against unarmed and undefended civilians, there was no war, yet; although I expect thatyou will try to conjure up one.
        The A-bombs dropped over cities that were already at war, but had been spared exclusively as demonstrations for the new weapons. Nearly every other city in the Home Islands had already been reduced to ashes, because the Empire of Japan and the USA were at war, and we were winning.

        To equate Hiroshima with 9/11 is a dreadful exercise in stupidity, or insidious sophistry. Furthermore, suggesting that there would have been no deaths if the Truman had decided to forego invasion is quite plainly idiotic. It is also mind-numbingly immoral of you to even say such a thing, considering the numbers of soldiers AND civilians whom the Japanese had already killed or would have in the event of a lengthened war (I don't suppose the 10,000 Japanese suicides on Okinawa mean anything whatsoever to you?).

        You are in deadly serious need of either prayer, or a 2×4, your choice.

        • gtoop

          >9/11 was a cowardly attack against unarmed and undefended civilians, there was no war,

          Is there any difference in massacring innocent civilians whether its a war or peace time attack?

          >The A-bombs dropped over cities that were already at war, but had been spared exclusively as demonstrations for the new weapons

          Then why didnt u dropped it in the remote island to demonstrate it instead of murdering 300,000 innocent civilians?

          >considering the numbers of soldiers AND civilians whom the Japanese had already killed

          Did Hiroshima women and children killed those ppl?
          Use ur brain while u r alive.

    • RiverFred

      Right on tarleton, to bad Obozo was not in the Batan Death March. The A bomb, it was caluclated, saved 50,000 American lives as it prevented the invasion of Japan.
      Obozo is a politically correct moron.

      • gtoop

        >as it prevented the invasion of Japan.

        If u dont try to invade there would be no more death.

  • tarleton

    Furthermore , Obama is not a bad fellow , he's just another Western metrosexual ..a preening pretentious poseur and lightweight …just a sign of the times

    • gtop

      Did Hiroshima civilians start the war?
      Use your brain while you are alive!

  • pierce

    Where are you coming from tarleton. Obama has to be the biggest disgrace for a president this country has ever had, and apologizing to Japan for a war they started one of the most insidious acts an american president could ever do. The man is becoming a JERK.

    • Amused

      Duh ….pierce …..Duh …there was no "apology " nimrod .

    • gtop

      Did Hiroshima civilians start the war?
      Use your brain while you are alive!

    • gtoop

      Did Hiroshima civilians start the war?

      • StephenD

        No. Hiroshima civilians did not start the war. Now, will you change the record? Geesh! You really are the "clanging cymbal" making an annoying noise. Please stop it.

        • gtoop

          I will stop it if u apologize for Hiroshima.

          • StephenD

            gtoop, not that an apology from me would amount to anything of substance so instead I offer you this: Go F**K yourself!
            You apologize to all the American soldiers and their families that sacrificed so you can live in this free society you blithering dolt.

          • gtoop

            >this free society

            Does a free society assassinate suspects without trial?

          • sharpsrifle

            I apologize for the bombardier of Enola Gay not hitting dead center in Hiroshima and rather hitting a few degrees off. That reflects poorly on the accuracy of the Norden M Series bombsight and that perhaps he had not paid enough attention to the effects of crosswinds while in bombardier school at Kirtland AAB. Perhaps if he had hit Hiroshima dead center, there might have been better blast effects.

            There's your apology, putz.

          • intrcptr2

            It is possible too, that the flight characteristics of Little Boy were not worked out quite well enough, so I'm not so sure you need apologize for that.

            Maybe for using Fat Man on Nagasaki rather than Hiroshima… (I may be a bit deficient in my understanding of the topographies of the two cities, though)

          • gtoop

            I apologize for the attack on Pentagon not hitting dead center in and rather hitting a few degrees off. That reflects poorly on the accuracy of the driving of the planes and that perhaps he had not paid enough attention to the effects of crosswinds while in suicide bombardier school at Baghdad. Perhaps if he had hit Pentagon dead center, there might have been better blast effects.

            There's your apology, putz.

          • StephenD

            Because the terrorists are soldiers that had declared war against the USA the same as Japan right? So with your endorsement, we can legitimately attack those countries from which the terrorists hailed. Too bad you have no authority. We could have made great use of you. But alas, you are merely the court jester playing the fool. By the way, you do that well….your Mom should be proud

          • gtoop

            Yes Al Qaeda were soldiers and if u justify Hiroshima u r also justifying 9/11.

          • StephenD

            Umm, didn't I tell you to Go F**K yourself a while ago? Move along now little mind, move along.

          • gtoop

            So u admit defeat ed in the debate?

  • Amused

    LOL….unbelievable ! The whole apology story has been proven false , and instead of having the courage and honesty to admit ,FPM has decided to foist another LIE ….this one being HYPOTHETICAL . Jamie Glazov, who claims to have a college education , merely proves it's nothing more than a 4th grade mentality .
    And now yyou're what ?? The Editor ! LOL….what a joke ,,,,,but David is the owner of the blog and therefore totally responsible for Jamie's editorial lies ……..what a pathetic three ring circus …shameless !

    • aspacia

      Amused, please provide valid support.

  • Amused

    But Glazov and Horowitz know their audience quite well .
    Again Pavlov rings the bell and the pack comes a runnin' .

    Ever do any work for Pravda Jaime ? And tell me Glazov, how do you come to conclude Obama "wants more defeat in WW2 " .The toitle alone is something one might find eminating from an assylum , what college did you go to and what mindless autocrat issued you a doctorate …..or was it purchased on the internet..lol….ordid David confer it on you .

    Man I'm cut and saving your article , no one will believe it unless they see it . Congrats Jaime , you have far exceeded the idiot counerparts on the Left .

    lol….."wish for more defeat in W 2 " ….my , my , my !

    • aspacia

      Now you stoop to fallacious ad hom attacks. Again, provide proof.

      • gtoop

        The bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki is the worst terrorist act ever committed in the history of mankind.
        The Americans could have dropped it at military bases or a lone island to show the strength the atomic bomb. But they did not. Instead, they dropped it in a middle of a crowded city in the morning. The act cannot be justified by saying you are saving more lives because the people in the city are not the ones fighting the war. They are innocent human beings.
        How can you kill someone not involved in the war? It's like killing your enemy's parents because they are related to your enemy but not involved in your enmity.
        That is not justice.

        • UCSPanther

          It is if they are enabling your enemy, and that's exactly what Nagasaki and Hiroshima were doing.

          Like I said, I'm pretty sure you are scared. You have good reason to be.

          • gtoop

            So u r justifying 9/11 as well I see.

        • aspacia

          Watch the following link and refute Whttle's claims: http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&mpid=56

          The Japanese were warned, and the government would not allow them to leave the cities. A million leaflets were dropped 5 days before the bombings. The leaflets clearly stated that we were attacking the military installations in the targeted and that we were not at war with the Japanese people.

          Other issues are detailed in this video.

          Oh, and please shut-up until you watch the video and actually develop a logical, rational fact.

          • gtoop

            Does that justify murdering 300,000 innocent civilian(women and children included)?

  • Amused

    ….waiting for your next "eye -bleeding " editorial Jamie . gotta keep that hate flowing eh ?

    • voted against carter

      amused,..

      PLEASE remove your asshat prior to posting.

      Your comprehension ability is suspect so I try and keep it simple.

      You are an idiot. STOP proving it with every statement you make.

      • Amused

        if you buy this tripe that Glaosv is peddling , "Obama wants more American defeat in WW2 , then you've got the intelligence of a cochroach . In fact you are amazement , that such a walking talking piece of meat without a brain , could even find the letters on your keyboard .
        The title alone should have alerted anyone with half-a-brain , that its just more B.S. piled on top of another pile of B.S.which ,BTW in case it escaped your 3 nano-second attention span , [the alleged apology to Japan ] has already been proven patently false .Even the idiots at Foxnews had enough common sense to realize it and for whatever a phony Fox apology is worth , they did it twice . Man you are dumb as a rock .

        Don't hurt yourselo thinking now CHUMP .

  • http://satanstrinity.com C"H"Martel

    My book, "Satan's Trinity: Hitler, Stalin & Muhammad," will be available within the month and one may pre-order at http://www.satanstrinity.wordpress.com/ For the first time in history "HSM" appear together on a book cover. The idea behind the book is to make headway against the ludicrous idea that Muhammad should be conjoined with any religious leader/founder. Once this comparison, driven by actual names, has been made then it must be attacked. Once the attack has been launched then the attackers will be forced to defend their attack. Since the attack is indefensible then the "religion" Muhammad (if he existed) founded will begin to be viewed as the scam it is. This book has been written under the principle of KISS. And nothing is simpler to understand than Hitler and Stalin…..and now, Muhammad. Thank you for your time…….C"H"Martel

  • mgoldberg

    Japan had announced that they would kill all their hostages, and prisoners of war if the americans invaded. People like to moan about what they did…. which was horrific, but in fact ended the war.

    • gtoop

      >Japan had announced that they would kill all their hostages, and prisoners of war if the americans invaded

      Evidence?
      U r a liar.

      • Amused

        Lieing and IGNORANCE are glorified here on FPM .As for gtoop's barely cognizant sentence . Again no one here has argued against the Use of the A-Bomb , nor has anyone questioned the reassoning behind that decision , yet all thes knee-jerk reactions indicate a hardcore lack of reading comprehension .
        And BTW gtoop , just so you dont go to your grave in utter ignorance , the Japanese were doing that in most cases all throughout the war . The Allies estimated it would cost atleast another 500,000 casualties in any invasion of Japan , so go get yourself an education and study EXACTLY what Truman had to say about this .

        • gtoop

          >The Allies estimated it would cost atleast another 500,000 casualties in any invasion of Japan

          If u dont try to invade Japan there would be no more death and no need for A-bomb, idiot.

      • Timwn

        Try
        The Rising Sun by John Toland
        The Pacific War by John Costello
        The Pacific Campaign by Dan Van der Vat
        The Battle of Okinawa by George Feiffer
        Prisoners of the Japanese by Gavin Daws
        and more..
        All well researched, peer reviewed, with actual interviews.

        • gtoop

          R they any official documents?

          • timwn

            Lots of them. Toland in particular had excellent access to Japanese sources. Also plenty of first person interviews of participants. Read some of them and see for yourself.

          • gtoop

            R they any governments' official evidence?

  • http://www.conwebwatch.com Terry K.

    Glazov's column is a lie — there was never a plan to apologize for Hiroshima. Even Fox News has apologized for reporting there was such a plan.

    Apparently, lying is all FrontPageMag can do these days.

    • Amused

      I guess "the end justifies the means " ….lol…an old commie saying . How ironic coming from the "alleged " patriots of FPM .

  • mrbean

    To all you intellectually inept people who never were a colleague, are not a colleague now, and never will be a colleague, because you know less than nothing, an invasion of the Japanese homeland would have required 1 million plus American troops with an expected casualties at 500,000 Americans and at least 2 to 3 million Japanese in the first six months alone, and would have totally destroyed their country. As a result, the total casualties for both Nagasaki and Hiroshima were under 400,000 and way under 1 million even from long term radiation effects, That saved 500,000 American casualties and from1 to 2 million Japanese lives, and left the majority of their country intact. So, if you want to learn the truth, you got to stop listening to Obama and his deranged mentor the Reverend Jermiah Wright .

    • Amused

      Gee MrBean you are capable of putting down more than nonsensical racist one liners ! And you are good at repeating what I just stated [like the true parrot you are } but again what does thaty have top do with continuing to spout the LIE that Obama attempted or planned an apology ?
      And maybe you can expalin Glasov's ridiculous piece , with it's ridiculous title "Obama's wish for more American defeat in WW2 " …lool….,now I have a problem dtermining who is the bigger numbskull , you or Glasov .

    • gtoop

      To win the war, you don’t need either A-bomb or invasion. Just blockade the island, they'd have to surrender eventually. What would they do without any connection with outside world, with no factories working? They would have to surrender.

      That 1 million soldier is just a tale to make American people support the A-bomb. Another state propaganda.

      Additionally, it's been proven historically that the Japanese high gov't. officials were at the verge of convincing the emperor to surrender just bfr the bombs were dropped. It was gonna happen in one or two weeks.

      Truman dropped the bomb for political purposes (not letting Russians in) and power purposes (showing the Russians and the world the american power).

      Yeah, that show costed 300,000 death.

      • timwn

        Do you have any original documents proving that? Did you read them for yourself?

        • gtoop

          That's common sense.
          And that's why Japan surrendered.

  • Amused

    LOL….dead on Terry K. and it's really hard to imagine , that Glasov alleges a college education . What is surprising -[well not really given his past ] is the fact that David Horowitz would even allow such slander on his blog .
    Stories expectorated by "journalists " on this blog are routine , standard operating proceedure . Dont bother them with facts , for their minions , muses and sycophants will bury your post with disapprovals .LOL..TRUTH takes a big hit around here . Courage ? it's non-existent .Moral ethics ? You find more in a whorehouse .

  • Amused

    David , why dont you just sit jaimie down and tell him he went over the edge ?

  • Amused

    David you know the whole "apology " story was a lie , yet I've seen no retraction .And now you allow Glasov to spurt out this drivel . Tell mme David Horowitz ….how does Obama "wish more American defeat in WW2 ???????/

  • Amused

    …and all this time , I thought the US won the war .LOL…..this crap goes way beyond revisionism , it is BLIND UNREASONED HATRED .
    Shameless man shameless !

    • aspacia

      Amused, did you forget to take your meds today?

      • Amused

        Dont need'em , you need to come off of yours .You may actually be able to think .BTW , check out that big world around you , it's been established almost from the moment it was cast , there never was an apology …..it's a lie genius , you want proof ?..lol….I guess you also need proof the the month we are in at the moment is October ….but maybe not huh aspacia ?

        • aspacia

          You sure fly into rages from time to time. Why so angry? Hearst lied to us with his yellow journalism hence our entry into a war. I do believe you are intelligent enough to know which one. One rag, claimed Jackson was a murderer during his election campaign. The list is huge, and the media misdeeds will continue.

          I just want to know what source refuted this claim regarding O's apology.

  • steven l

    One needs to distinguish between the Fanatics of Japan and the "innocent civilian victims" of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. To claim that all the people who where in both cities were fanatic is absurd.
    I believe that BHO spoke for the innocent civilians.

    • Jacques

      Yeah, and the same stratagem is being used nowadays by the proponents of Islam, who enjoin us to distinguish between Muslim and Islamist, between Islam and "radical Islam" while they are both part of the same menace against the West. Only this time, unfortunately, it seems to have a better chance of working with our brain-washed "educated" youth and comfortable baby boomers and generation-xyz than with the unspoiled members of the Best Generation.

  • Ghostwriter

    I'm amazed at the idiocy of people like gtroop. He's willing to deny even the most obvious evidence of what really happened during World War II. The Rape of Nanking did happen. It's well documented. Also the Bataan Death March in which hundreds of American troops were forced to march without water or food for days. Hundreds died. Filipinos who tried to give Americans some food or water were killed for it. There are documented uses of "comfort women" by Japanese troops.
    Even before Pearl Harbor,the Japanese showed what they were capable of during World War II. In 1935 or 1936,I don't know,the Japanese Air Force attacked and sank the American gunship "Panay" while it was on patrol in China. Several American sailors and an Italian journalist was killed. Even though the Japanese knew the U.S. was neutral and there was an American flag that could be seen by an airplane,they did it anyway. They also attacked American hospitals. Even with the Mount Everest-sized evidence of how the Japanese acted during World War II,people like gtroop still blame America first even though,throughout the 1930's we were neutral.

    I think gtroop should read up more on World War II in the Pacific before he blames America for a war we didn't want to be involved in and didn't even start.

    • gtoop

      >The Rape of Nanking did happen.

      Show me any official evidence, u liar.

      >Also the Bataan Death March in which hundreds of American troops were forced to march without water or food for days. Hundreds died. Filipinos who tried to give Americans some food or water were killed for it. There are documented uses of "comfort women" by Japanese troops.

      What did Hiroshima women and children have to do with them?

      >a war we didn't want to be involved in and didn't even start.

      Did Hiroshima women and children start the war?
      Use ur brain while u r alive.

      • Ghostwriter

        Well then,gtoop,how about the testimony of the people of Nanking? Or more accurately,those who survived? How about the Westerners who sheltered Chinese civilians? The missionaries? Even some of the Japanese solders who testified after the war? How's that for evidence?
        What was the United States supposed to do? Invade Japan and let our troops be slaughtered like what happened on Okinawa? You've repeatedly said to me and others on this site "Use your brain while you're alive." Sounds to me as though you need to take your own advice. Why don't you read up on the Pacific War before you spout your nonsense on this site?

        • gtoop

          They r all lie.
          Otherwise the Allies had punished Japanese soldiers for that.

          • Ghostwriter

            I said before and I'll say it again. Read up on the Pacific War before you spout your nonsense on this site.

          • Ghostwriter

            Well,maybe here's some proof for you that the Rape of Nanking happened. I just looked up the incident online and there were Japanese newspaper accounts of killing contests between Japanese army officers over who could kill the most people. There are also diary accounts and eyewitness testimonies that this incident occurred! When are you going to get you head out of the clouds and face reality?

          • gtoop

            Can u show any government's official proof anyway?

          • Ghostwriter

            Unbelievable,gtoop! You're still living in Fantasyland! I've told you repeatedly about Japanese atrocities during World War II and you just dismiss them out of hand like they didn't happen. You must be a charter member of the Blame America First club in which the philosophy has been that the United States must be blamed for all the problems in the world.
            For example,the Rape of Nanking. You just dismiss all the credible eyewitness accounts,the testimony of Westerners who were there,including missionaries,newspaper accounts,photographs,diary accounts,the postwar testimony of Japanese solders,etc. You simply dismiss the Mount Everest-sized evidence that it did happen,for what reason,I don't know.
            You didn't even look it up online! A simple search on Yahoo and Google would have been a start. You could have even read books on the subject at your local library. You've repeatedly said on this site "Use your brain while you're alive." I wish you'd take your own advice and do some research before you come back here and spout off more nonsense. Not every calamity in the world can be blamed on America. I don't know why you continue to blame this country for problems it didn't even cause.

          • gtoop

            If Rape of Nanking really happened , why didn't Allies tried Japanese soldiers for that?

    • Ghostwriter

      They did. They tried a few officers at the end of the war. But this doesn't change the fact that the Rape of Nanking happened. Also,I forgot to add something. An American missionary,the Rev. John Magee had secretly shot footage of the massacre so gtoop,your attempts to say that the Rape of Nanking didn't happen have shattered on the rock of truth. Why don't you do your own research instead of spouting off nonsense?

      • Ghostwriter

        Also,there are some very gruesome photographs of dead Chinese women with sticks portruding from their private areas. If you want to see them as further proof,go right ahead. Just do some research before you spout more nonsense.

  • Amused

    Of which you are NOT one Jacques . Most of the Best Generation have already passed on . So that leaves you in one the generations you have just berated.

  • gsegfdg

    "Let me say only this much to the moral issue involved: Suppose Germany had developed two bombs before we had any bombs. And suppose Germany had dropped one bomb, say, on Rochester and the other on Buffalo, and then having run out of bombs she would have lost the war. Can anyone doubt that we would then have defined the dropping of atomic bombs on cities as a war crime, and that we would have sentenced the Germans who were guilty of this crime to death at Nuremberg and hanged them?" – Leo Szilard

    • aspacia

      Revisionism is bs.

  • http://americapowsofjapan.blogspot.com MK Smith

    Obama is the FIRST and only President to go to bat for the American POWs of Japan. It is his administration that pushed the Japanese to apologize to the American POWs and to give them visits to Japan. The second US POW delegation is there is week.

    Republican Administrations have always protected Japan and their war crimes. The Bush Administration was particularly close to Japan and did much to undermine the American POWs' quest for justice. These men were abused, tortured, starved, and murdered. They were used as slave labor at all of Japan's great companies.

    The Hiroshima story is a red herring. Japan's rightists were insisting upon something in exchange for the POW apology. It was discussed and rejected by both sides. You are only seeing one cable. The apology story broke in Japan weeks ago and has been used by the Rightists to warn the new Japanese government that Japan's war crimes must be kept quiet.

    Frankly, the Obama Administration is a hero. Japan's rightists are playing with you.

    • gtop

      The biggest war crime in WW2 is US murder of 300,000 innocent Japanese civilians.
      Face the truth.

      • Ghostwriter

        No,gtop! The truth is the biggest war crime of WW2 was the Nazi Holocaust of Jews. They did nothing to deserve what happened to them and yet you cry for those who have done the same thing to us. Please,don't be stupid.

  • use your brain

    Wow. It's incredible how much ignorance there is in the US. This story is an outright LIE. That's right, a LIE. Obama never planned on going to Hiroshima to apologize. Period. Get over yourselves and stop sucking up everything you read. Your blind hatred is making you… well… blind. Seriously people, what's the matter with you?
    Beyond the fact that the story is simply a lie, how many of you have actually been to Hiroshima or Nagasaki? Oh, probably none of you. How many of you have actually read the primary documents from the time that indicate the Japanese were ready to surrender? Oh, probably none of you. How many of you understand that the US leveled hundreds of Japanese cities full of civilians in WWII with firebombing campaigns that made Dresden look like a simple skirmish? Oh, probably none of you. The Japanese army in and before WWII were responsible for horrific crimes against humanity. That does not mean all Japanese people deserve to die. American soldiers committed horrific crimes against humanity in Vietnam. That does not mean all Americans deserve to die. My goodness, use your frickin' brains.
    Again, don't believe all the crap you read just because it was on some lame website like this one. And don't let your mouth run before you have at least the tiniest clue what you are talking about. It's embarrassing. Americans are supposed to be educated, but some of you folks will believe anything.

    • aspacia

      Doolittle did a huge amount of damage. Oh, yes, I am a historian who extensively researched this, and many other battle: Midway, Coral Sea, Dresden, London, Plymouth, etc.

      At the moment, teachers are forced to paced imbeciles through the system. You can thank the likes of Obama's cronies, Ayres, et al for this.

  • use your brain

    Yep, even Fox News "apologized" for running with this fabricated story… http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-and-friends-clarif

  • Asher

    Obama has the same ideology of his former pastor Jeremiah Wright…"America's Chickens have come home to roost." Total Evil is on the scene just like the world experienced when Hitler began his evil Reign.

  • Amused

    Hmm, Jeremiah Wright , 9/11 , Hitler , WW2 and what the Japanese did , ….and the list of smoke screens and sidesteps continue . And Still , not one sign of anyone possessing the cahones to admit that the stoiry they bought and swallowed hook line and sinker , has been proven to be a lie . I get it ! When you get caught in a lie , just ignore that fact and make up another , like Jaime Glasov with his uttertly childish " Obama wishes more defeat in WW2 "- the title alone should alert anyone with atleast half a brain , especially in view of the FACT that the whole apology bit was just another Breitbartian/style slander ,[ and proven patently FALSE ] in addition to being a poorly composed sentence coming from an ALLEGED "Phd.Holder " . And thus the "courageous " and " ethical "? Glasov , can muster the intestinal fortitude to admit the apology was a lie , but worse only extrapolates on it as a vehickle for another lie , which this time he himself invents ….Pathetic man ….pathetic !

  • Amused

    And David Horowiz , the Rigmaster of this Three Ring Circus Act sits idly by …a true picture of " …..cough …cough ….integrity " and has done NOTHING IN THE WAY OF A RETRACTION . But allows tripe like Glasovs ridiculous article .

  • Amused

    you’re spitting in to the wind “use your brain ” , these people dont care if it’s a fallacy , they just change the subject and move on in a differewnt argument altogether . This is obvious throught the whole thread , as well as the original slander thread , declaring Obama attempted to apologize to the Japanese,
    People like the above aspacia are brain dead , and the content of the thread which is based in a lie , is simply sidestepped , and the subject changed . It would/t be so pathetic if asapacia represented the few around here , but he represent the majority of posters on this blog .
    Are they stupid ? Or just playing stupid ? ….take your pick .