The End of Occupy Wall Street

Jacob Laksin is a senior writer for Front Page Magazine. He is co-author, with David Horowitz, of The New Leviathan (Crown Forum, 2012), and One-Party Classroom (Crown Forum, 2009). Email him at jlaksin@gmail.com and follow him on Twitter at @jlaksin.


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NEW YORK – It turns out that Occupy Wall Street is not too big to fail.

The left-wing protest campaign that started with such a media-assisted bang two months ago ended with a whimper yesterday morning, as New York police shut down the protestors’ latest attempt to make a scene and generally to be a nuisance in lower Manhattan. Evicted from its base of operations in Zuccotti Park earlier in the week, Occupied Wall Street, or what remained of it, tried to improve on its former stunt by attempting to invade the New York Stock Exchange to shut it down. Instead the protestors’ so-called “Day of Action” came to little of consequence when police easily repelled them. It was just the latest setback for a self-styled movement that has fizzled out in recent weeks as public and official patience with it has worn thin.

While yesterday’s events highlight how ineffectual the campaign has become, Occupy Wall Street long ago became a parody of political cluelessness. The protestors’ grievances, while hailed by a sympathetic mainstream media, ranged from the confused to the contradictory. They raged about tax breaks to the rich “1 percent,” even as that one percent shoulders the largest share of the country’s tax burden. They denounced government bailouts for big banks, even as they demanded government bailouts for student loans and demanded that Americans “resist austerity.” They charged that “banks steal homes,” apparently oblivious to the role that the country’s biggest banks had in subsidizing countless risky mortgages that extended “equality” before ultimately collapsing the housing market. Occupy Wall Street did not so much bemoan America’s political and economic realities as invent them, with the result even the more reasonable aspects of their agenda – ending government bailouts for banks for instance – became impossible to take seriously.

Much of what Occupy Wall Street stood for would be meaningless, if it weren’t often menacing. In recent weeks especially there has been a surge in militancy among the protestors. Pollsters found that over one third of the protestors support violence to advance their agenda, a fact confirmed by the mounting violence originating in Occupy Wall Street encampments. In Oakland, protestors vandalized local businesses, set fires, hurled objects at police and shut down the local port. In New York they clashed with police and threatened to “burn New York City to the f—ing ground.” In Washington D.C., protestors laid siege to a conference by the conservative group Americans for Prosperity, knocking a 78-year-old woman down some stairs in the process. Given the protestors’ penchant for violence, it is perhaps not entirely surprising that the deranged gunman who fired an assault rifle into the White House this week was initially able to avoid police by blending in with the Occupy D.C. protestors. When there are so many violent radicals in the crowd, it can be difficult to tell them apart.

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  • Guest

    looks like you havent been watching the news. its certainly not over

    • Herman Caintonette

      He only watches the Faux Propaganda Network.

      The success of OWS is demonstrated by the decibel level of its opponents. If it has died, why has Team Horrorwitless written two articles on it, and why is it in the top of the queue?

      • http://visionsandprinciples.blogspot.com/ InRussetShadows

        Because you always need a good post-mortem or two.

        • Herman Caintonette

          OWS has served its purpose: revitalizing the coalition of commoners that put Barry the Wall Street Water-Boy into office, but was betrayed by him. The 99% have come to recognize that our plutocratic kleptocracy and the courtesans in Washington who facilitate it are never going to act in the public interest unless they take to the streets and demand change.

          OWS is truly a world-wide movement. Tehran. Tahrir Square. The tent cities in Israel. Wisconsin. Athens. Rome. And now, OWS. The next move is probably to Occupy Congress. Flash mobs. Congressional town hall meetings. The model works.

          • Blaze Pascal

            The 99% have basically watched the scattering of ows knuckleheads on the news for a laugh.

          • Herman Caintonette

            Which is why tbe 1% is so worried, right? http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/C

            Read Abramoff's book and get up to speed.

          • Blaze Pascal

            you are actually referencing MSNBC? You must be joking. They make the Faux News Network look like the Royal Academy of Sciences.

            Why should I look at your blatantly biased news sources when you have contempt for mine? I've watched enough MSNBC to puke several times over thanks anyway. And who the hell is this Abramoff I'm supposed to go read? I've got a few reading suggestions for you too you know.

          • Herman Caintonette

            The document is on MSNBC's website. I would use Faux News as a source, but they make the old Pravda look respectable, and as the professional propagandists they are, they would never do such a thing as publish such an incriminating letter.

            I thought you said you were a regular consumer of news, Blaze. Don't you remember Jack Abramoff? Obviously, you are a liar.

          • Blaze Pascal

            Yes Herman I'm a liar. I actually never watch much news. I just popped in here from ows to get warm.

    • myohmy

      you are so right….. I expect them to do something on thanksgiving to disrupt the Macy's parade and then intensify their efforts to shut America down. Bloomberg is a joke.

      • Herman Caintonette

        That would be an idea.

        • Blaze Pascal

          They could stage a mass $h!t in and disrupt the parade that way. Its time these people got really creative.

    • Duke of Zil

      Yeah it is. Good riddance. Occupy Wall Street? Free Orange Jumpsuits for all.

  • guest

    yeah, this article is pretty funny in light of police estimates that over 30,000 people protested in ny tonight

    • Rifleman

      According to ABC and NBC, but CBS admitted there were only about a thousand.

      • tagalog

        This morning, the New York Post reports that there were several hundred OWS protesters on the Brooklyn Bridge. Not 30,000.

    • http://apollospaeks.blogtownhall.com/ ApolloSpeaks

      See my post below The #30,000.

    • http://www.themadjewess.wordpress.com MAD JEWESS

      There were not 30k people there.
      There were 30k Communists.

      • Jim_C

        I find it charming when a "Jewess" uses the same dehumanizing rhetoric once used against her own people.

      • Roco

        Brilliant incite. Did you conduct a political opinion poll? Or are you going by the FPM standard of "belief is proof"?

  • guest

    You write, "Small wonder that 45 percent of Americans now say they oppose the movement and what it stands for." Where do you get that figure of 45%? Can you back up that claim with facts?

    • davarino

      Where is the big movement by the "99%" to keep the OWS in the park. Where is the solidarity? Where are the bumper stickers here in fly over country "We Love You OWS"?
      I think its more than 45%. Nobody cares

    • tagalog

      According to a new survey by Public Policy Polling, those opposed to OWS have increased from 36% to 45% in the past couple of weeks.

    • akbass

      Back up the claim with facts? Why should conservatives or conservative media be held to that standard when the Left clearly never has been? You're a fool.

      • Roco

        So you're admitting that the right-wing media has no interest in facts?

  • Ahmed

    This is a typical conservative article, out of touch with reality. American Muslims are peaceful, humble people who love all.

    • BIG IRISH

      oh yes ahmed they sure are…..islam is the peaceful guiding light that is seen around the world…oh to live in such beauty…saudi arabia, iran iraq, turkey,yemen, somolia…oh the list is so wonderfully long!

      • StephenD

        Big Irish, To be able to wrap up our women in a cloth casket, to have my children long for the opportunity to die while killing a Jew, to venerate a 7th century trade route bandit that did little girls, to know that there would be no arguments among us in that ALL Muslims would stay Muslim…or die trying to leave, to know that there is no such thing as homosexuals in Islam (because they get the death penalty), Ahh what a life worth living! Yes! Yes!~ Big Irish, why does he tease us so? Why won't he tell us how we too can partake in such a glorious life? I just want them to explain how washing their feet before praying makes them more pious while killing another human doesn't make them less so?
        Big Irish, you are too funny!! Thanks

    • sedoanman

      What do Muslims have to do with OWS?

    • tagalog

      The best that can be said about those peaceful, humble American Muslims is that they're in a holding pattern while they see how America handles Muslim fundamentalism. If America does an ineffectual job, American Muslims will become more fundamentalist and jihadist; if if deals effectively with Islamic fundamentalism, American Muslims will become even more peaceful and humble.

    • tony

      Ahmed, please give us the name of a single Muslim country that is at peace with all of its neighbors.

    • myohmy

      sure they do… you moron. Now get back to your camel, she's missing you abdul.

    • coyote3

      No, but they "will" be loved by all, "after" they have been humbled.

    • mrbean

      The Arab curse be upon you. May desase carrying fleas from a thousand camels find a home in your crotch.

    • Vinny

      please try and explain to me how islame is so peaceful, if you dare. and you must be able to back up your claim with proof. bu ti bet Mos boy won't even reply.

    • poetcomic1

      'Humble' Islam is apostasy. Literally.

    • Roco

      Dude, either you're trolling or you have no idea what site you're on.
      That's like announcing your support for the Black Panther at a Klan rally.

    • mlcblog

      you wish

      Never, if we are thinking straight, can we so generalize about a whole group of people. There are always exceptions. It is simply not logical to say All believe or do one thing.

  • mrbean

    Ahhhh… maybe soon an end to the public defecators and public urinators and their stench – probably leaving the best of themselves behind. heh heh heh heh

  • http://play-frogger.com/ frogger

    I'm glad it's this occupy wall street thing is finally over. I kinda agree with their idea but they went about it totally wrong

    • Herman Caintonette

      What would you counsel?

      All social movements start small.

  • davarino

    We didnt need OWS to tell us what we already knew. Its the rest of their "ideas" that they are trying to resurrect from the trash heap of history that few agree with, but nice try.

    • Jim_C

      Here's the deal davarino. You don't like that banks were considered too big to fail. I don't like that these guys were even allowed to take the kinds of risks they took in the first place, which we then bailed them out for. Not sure how you feel about it, but when our tax dollars then went into their bonuses, I felt like some monstrous injustice had just been perpetrated, while the perps all nodded grimly and gave the cameras their best concerned look.

      Meanwhile you and I argue over whether it was government or bankers at fault. Cute, isn't it?

      Personally I don't mind if a bunch of bongo playing hackeysackers put that issue back in the news cycle and force people to comment on it again. Hurricane Katrina hit years ago. It's out of the news cycle, but the people there are still living through it. Well that was "only" a natural disaster; this was a cataclysm and we just shrug at the corruption and make idiotic comments about "capitalism–pro or con?"

  • hammar

    the locusts are raising out of the bowels of the earth…whether they be left wing radicals, mohams non-believers or communists. Only Our Lord and God Jesus Christ is in control.

  • StephenD

    I still am leery thinking that they'll re-emerge in the Spring more organized because those with a real agenda will have provided training for these Useful Idiots. I expect it to get real ugly, real fast when they kick up the dust next year.

    • sedoanman

      That's what we want, and we want them to take it to the Democratic convention, just like 1968.

    • tagalog

      I doubt that you'll see them come back in the spring of 2012; this fall was their moment. Now that the park occupation is over, I doubt that there's enough of a core set of convictions that will re-engage and rally these people again.

    • howdydoody

      you're right StephenD, we'll be back in the Spring and we're raising your taxes.

      • Herman Caintonette

        StephenD doesn't make enough, iirc.

  • NotaBene

    And not a word about the 30.000+ people who marched across the Brooklyn bridge last night. Admit it: you wrote this article before the fact, didn’t you?

    • tagalog

      Thirty thousand people? What world is that piece of information from? It has been widely reported, by news media generally friendly to the OWS movement, that the number of demonstraters is a fraction of the 10,000 who were called for by OWS leaders, and in several cases reported as about 1,000 to 2,000 people. This morning (November 18, 2011) the New York Post online – not friendly to OWS – reports that "several hundred" OWS demonstraters were on the Brooklyn Bridge.

      • howdydoody

        tagalog… clearly you live in a media/reality vacuum where you only read/listen/see what you want to read/listen/see. I make an effort to get my source from different media sources, both the NYTimes and NYPost, PBS and FoxNews, that's the only way to come out with an objective balance of news coverage.

        quotes from your beloved NYPost:

        "Meanwhile, the sheer number of protesters forced a heavy police response that shut down streets around the protest route. Broadway was so crowded that the police ended up taking two lanes of traffic, with cops on foot marching up the street and police cruisers using the middle lane.That left just one lane for traffic on one of the city’s busiest thoroughfares."

        You really think only a 1,000 – 2,000 people can do this? Have you seen the aerial photos?

        I was there, and I've been to 5,000 people concerts, there were a lot more than that.

        • tagalog

          Yeah, and I've been to my share of 1960s demonstrations where the number attending was in the tens of thousands, but the Mobe or whoever reported them in the hundreds of thousands. They did that for a long time until the news media began to report their figures instead of the government authorities, who reported more factually.

          How do you know I don't get my news from a variety of sources? Because I posted what the New York Post said? No wonder you were present at the OWS thingie; like the liquid in a sewer, it sounds like you've found your intellectual level among them.

          Finally, I trust the news reporters on the numbers more than I trust your eyewitness statements because I know how easy it is to kid yourself about numbers when you're one individual in a crowd, especially when you have a stake in inflating the numbers.

          And while that subject is up, who promulgated the 30,000 figure? One of those non-leaders of OWS?

          I bet you NEVER watch Fox News.

          • howdydoody

            There were all kinds of people at the OWS march, all ages, all races, al types and sizes Tagalog and I would say that 99.9% of them are better educated and more informed about current events than even you and I.

            I'm not sure where you live, but clearly you were nowhere near NYC since any ideas you have about #OWS are clearly only shaped by what websites like this one are feeding you. That's unfortunate, because it just means you are ignorant, even if you consider them your "enemy" it's important to know who/what you are talking about. I pity people who live their lives based on hearsay and take everything that a corporate-funded media tells them as "truth".

            Over and Out.

            P.S. – I do sometimes watch the local Fox News affiliate, but I don't have cable (I have better things to do then watch TV all day/night) so no, I don't watch all those opinion shows that you probably consider "legitimate news".

          • http://visionsandprinciples.blogspot.com/ InRussetShadows

            99.9% are more educated and informed than us? So, let's say of 30,000 people (a stunningly voluminous representation of that backwater burg, New York City), that only 300 are as ill-educated and uninformed as us — a very small minority. I would have to presume that this number includes the people who are even less educated and informed.

            So, is this very small minority the one that has been speaking to the press, electing dogs, raping people, shooting up, having moments of silence for assassins, complaining about their job prospects (when they should have known), complaining that the 1% doesn't pay enough taxes when they shoulder an unfair burden already, and all the rest of the OWS idiocy? If that is the case, the OWS has a real PR problem on their hands and they are completely clueless about it.

            In other words, what you propose is laughable on its face.

          • Herman Caintonette

            IRS: "complaining that the 1% doesn't pay enough taxes when they shoulder an unfair burden already,"

            Yeah, 15% really is too much for a hedge-fund manager to bear….

          • wobble

            Yep, h.c., the top 1% really doesn't pay its fair share does it? Statistic: the top 5% pays 57% of the tax base while the bottom 47% pays nothing. And, the tax payer base dwindles steadily as more and more lazy louts scam their way onto the public dole. Soon, we'll have the socialist utopia you want so badly, with the top 1% paying for everything and the 99% fully dependent on the nanny state government from cradle to grave. Of course, that type of economy won't implode, will it?

      • Herman Caintonette
  • jacob

    Shame tha it hasn't occurred to the authorities of the cities in which the
    "Occupations" happen,to get some "honey wagons" and spray its contents
    on the "Occupiers"…..
    After all if they do it on the land they occupy, why not get it on them ????

    It would really mean the end of all it….

    • http://visionsandprinciples.blogspot.com/ InRussetShadows

      I would love to see this. It's hard to take seriously people who think that their use of the common areas is to defile them. The only thing that resonates with them is treating them the way that they treat others.

  • tagalog

    The aspect of the OWS movement that was touted as its greatest strength, the generality and vagueness of the dissatisfaction, has proved to be its greatest weakness, as there is no core belief to hold people together, and therefore Occupy This or That seems to be on its way to utter dissolution.

    Also, the temptation to emulate the 1960s and engage in violence and resistance has won out (as we all knew it would) over the peaceful faction, and the non-violent have suffered a blow that may disengage them permanently from the OWS movement.

    • Herman Caintonette

      The police are the violent ones.

      • tagalog

        Well, when a person won't obey regulations for park use, he has to be removed using force appropriate to the situation. When it's a mob, the force is, unfortunately, multiplied. When it's an entrenched mob, removing them involves even greater effort. A mob can always leave when the bullhorns announce that it's time, but of course in this case they won't, so they have to be forcibly removed. That's just ordinary common sense, something that appears to be too much to ask for from the OWS crowd and their friends.

        They fail to make the critical distinction between the regulation of speech and the regulation of action, but I'm not going to go into that.

        Plus, let's not kid ourselves; violent confrontation with the police was on the mind of the OWS folks for some time. I would be sympathetic to the theory that they were to some degree set up by the MSM, who seemed to want a reprise of the 1968 Chicago Democratic Convention, but no one is claiming that yet. The OWS people expected it, and some of them wanted it. So now they got it. It wasn't even all that violent, just a little struggling here and there.

      • tony

        There you are again, exposing yourself as the Anti-American leftist radical you are. Yeah, it's always the cops fault. No one ever does anything wrong, except for the cops and guys on Wall Street. I liked you better when you were a phony lawyer trying to apply the doctrine of Res Ipsa to criminal matters.

        • Herman Caintonette

          Tony Baloney, aren't you supposed to be working?

          The doctrine of res ipsa is not limited to tort law — it is an application of Occam's Razor — and any competent lawyer would know it. So, where do you do traffic law?

        • trickyblain

          What's anti-American about not liking cops?

          • Herman Caintonette

            Urban cops have this unfortunate tendency to act like stormtroopers, disregarding the law that defines the limit of their authority. While you and I might enjoy the spectacle of a judge being beaten up, see http://www.democracynow.org/2011/11/17/paramilita… Tony, it does raise fair questions as to whether they have vastly exceeded it.

          • trickyblain

            One of the more annoying phrases I here cops say is, "you have no idea what we go through." I don't care. You choose your profession and should have known it wasn't going to be a pleasant working environment.

            I actually think urban cops are generally less primitive than suburban cops who have nothing to do but harass kids. Urban cops have a lot more to deal with, but that's no excuse for power abuse.

            There are exceptions, of course: I've met some fine cops — particularly sheriffs patrolling campsites, etc in 4WDs. Actually spoke to me like a person, and given me good fishing tips. But, generally, they are whiny little martyrs with attitude and power issues.

          • trickyblain

            That's "I hear" not "here"….this budget comment tool needs an edit feature!

          • Maxie

            How many of these "generally" "whiny little martyrs" have you talked to? Maybe you're the one with "attitude and power" issues. Walk a mile in the other man's shoes.

          • Herman Caintonette

            Small-town cops are usually great — they are part of the community. Urban cops have become a paramilitary force.

      • http://apollospaeks.blogtownhall.com/ ApolloSpeaks

        Police without the use of force would make them completely impotent in keeping law and order dummy.

        • Herman Caintonette

          The problem comes when they exceed their lawful authority, which is depressingly common.

          • Blaze Pascal

            What happens when the OWS squatters exceed their lawful authority and $h!t in the park, Herman, answer me that if you can.

          • Herman Caintonette

            A misdemeanor citation, I would suppose. Jaywalking is against the law, too.

            While it would have been nice to have had port-a-pots sent in, they didn't have legal authority to set them up, and no one would rent them facilities for fear they would have been confiscated. OWS has worked to solve the pragmatic problems of occupation.

          • Blaze Pascal

            so you're fine with me $h!tting on your sidewalk OK that's good to know

          • Roco

            Did you happen the notice the "…misdemeanor citation…" part? That would imply he is okay with enforcing that rule.

            Now the question to you is would you be okay if something pepper sprayed you or broke your jaw if you took a leak in the bushes because the nearest bathroom was six blocks away?

            In the minds of actual people that would constitute an abuse of force.

          • Herman Caintonette

            Blaze doesn't read. He emotes.

          • Roco

            You make a good point.

      • Roco

        Well, of course they are. That doesn't matter though since they have a media that will dutifully edit the tapes are just flat out ignore what do.

  • tagalog

    A fun moment, must be an inadvertent one: the New York Post reports today (Friday, November 18, 2011) that about 500 OWS protestors in New York have marched on Wall Street chanting, "All day, all week/Occupy Wall Street!" On Friday. All week. This is the level of intelligence among the Smart Party.

    No wonder they're having trouble converting those college degrees into jobs.

    • Questions

      Sing-song rhymes are for kids. We adults have to go to work.

      • tagalog

        All week.

        • Herman Caintonette

          So, you work as a night watchman? A prosti-tute?

          • tagalog

            That really wasn't the point, which you have apparently missed, so I'll explain it: a chant that says words to the effect that "we're going to be here all week," which is chanted on Friday, the end of the Wall Street work week, isn't really all that cogent, don't you think?

            Why do you keep referring to me as a prostitute, Hymie? Do you have some need you think I can fill for you?

          • Herman Caintonette

            They were there all week. Two blocks is close enough. What they were saying is that Bloomberg's Nazi York Stormtrooper Dept. couldn't stop them.

            Police brutality is just a fact of life in America.

          • Blaze Pascal

            knuckleheads like you are the real fact of life in America, Germ.

          • Herman Caintonette

            Retired New York Supreme Court Judge Karen Smith, who worked as a legal observer Tuesday morning in New York after the police raided the Occupy Wall Street encampment. "I was there to take down the names of people who were arrested… As I’m standing there, some African-American woman goes up to a police officer and says, 'I need to get in. My daughter's there. I want to know if she’s OK.’ And he said, 'Move on, lady.' And they kept pushing with their sticks, pushing back. And she was crying. And all of a sudden, out of nowhere, he throws her to the ground and starts hitting her in the head," says Smith. "I walk over, and I say, 'Look, cuff her if she's done something, but you don’t need to do that.’ And he said, 'Lady, do you want to get arrested?' And I said, 'Do you see my hat? I'm here as a legal observer.’ He said, 'You want to get arrested?' And he pushed me up against the wall."
            http://www.democracynow.org/2011/11/17/paramilita

            If it is appropriate for cops to beat up and arrest judges, they should start with the felon Clarence Thomas.

          • Blaze Pascal

            I watch a lot of news Her m. And I don't see a crisis of this police brutality you are dreaming about. As for Clarence Thomas, admit it, you hate conservative blacks, hence your mocking pen name.

          • Herman Caintonette

            If all you watch is Faux News, you wouldn't. But when cops pepper-spray 84-year-old ladies and judges, it is a safe bet that they are using excessive force.

            As for my moniker, I am mocking Cain's channeling of Marie Antoinette; if jobs were plentiful and paid a living wage, I rather doubt that OWS would exist.

            As for Thomas, he filed fraudulent EIGA forms, which is a felony; why should he be too big to jail? The problem with Thomas as a jurist is that he is an originalist of convenience.

          • Blaze Pascal

            Of course you're mocking Cain. He is a black conservative and you are a leftist. It's what you people do.

            As for Fox News, I don't think a rank leftist has any room to talk about deceit, lies, manipulation, bias, misrepresentation, slanting skewing and spiking of contrary evidence, now do you now?

            As for Thomas why don't you just admit you hate blacks unless they lean left?

          • tagalog

            You get your news from "Democracy Now?" Wow, and somebody gave me a ration of fluff because I quoted the New York Post.

      • Herman Caintonette

        At least, they can make up rhymes. The best the Teabaggers can come up with is "No more taxes!"

        • richard

          reminds me of 'no taxation w/out representation'. good then. good now.

          • Herman Caintonette

            OWS is complaining about the "no representation" part. we all pay taxes.

          • tagalog

            Well, we all pay things like sales taxes. But only 53% of us pay income taxes.

  • http://apollospaeks.blogtownhall.com/ ApolloSpeaks

    THE #30,000

    Empty headed Ed Schultz, on MSNBC last night, was glorying in yesterday's anniversary protests because of the numbers that showed up-30,000 according to police estimates. Ed (and his guests) was so impressed by this that he declared the day a smashing success, and then proceeded to rub it in the face of Bill O'Reilly and the Right who have declared the movement on its death bed.

    Now that was 30,000 bodies in a city of how many, 8 million? That's less than .5% of the total population. Not exactly what I would call a massively mass movement. In Cairo at Tahrir Square, for example, 50,000 people, on January 25th, gathered for the first day of protests. By day 7 the crowd had swelled to 100,000 strong. And at its height on February 11th (16 days after the protests began) Tahrir Square had 300,000 protesters, ten times the number that gathered on day 60 in New York yesterday. WOW! I'M BLOWN AWAY ED! WHAT IMPRESSIVE NUMBERS! OWS ROCKS!

    Click my name and read my piece: 60 Daze Of OWS Rage And Wall Street Stays Open For Business

    • NotaBene

      You realize that Cairo has twice as many people as NYC? And a far bigger population of people who are youth and/or living in poverty (cuz, y'know, it's a 3rd-world country)? And that the Tahrir Square rally was specifically meant to bring down a government, not to prove a point about the existing economic system? And that the OWS rally had to be organized at the last minute because Bloomberg staged a thuggish late-night raid that swept people out of the park?

      But why would I expect you to know anything…

      • http://apollospaeks.blogtownhall.com/ ApolloSpeaks

        THE ANTI-AMERICAN FRINGE SPRING

        Do you realize that you're wrong? That Cairo has 11 million souls? And stop with the BS about OWS's true mission. As commie nutjob Michael Moore said at Oakland to Anderson Cooper: "OWS is about replacing the evil system of Capitalism." With what? A peoples' democracy. Meaning what? A centralized, cradle to grave, totalitarian utopia when we're $15 trillion in debt and going bankrupt. For Moore and most OWS loons: Capitalism=Hosni Mubarack. That is the meaning of this Anti-American Fringe Spring

        But why would I expect you to know anything?

        • Herman Caintonette

          More like crapitalism — crony capitalism. Tell me what qualifications Neil Bush had for inclusion on the board of directors of Silverado Savings, or what Chelsea Clinton did to earn a coveted national reporter's gig.

          • Blaze Pascal

            why do you hate Chelsea Clinton so much her?

          • Herman Caintonette

            Why do you say that I hate her? I'm merely pointing out that she did not obtain her job on the merits. The same can be said to be true for all of the Bush spawn. My disdain is non-partisan.

            Even Limbaugh admits that we are no longer a meritocracy.

    • Blaze Pascal

      thats true Apollo, but ows had more rapes, don't forget about that.

  • BS77

    OWS is fizzling out…..it has lost support. whatever sympathy OWS had at the beginning is now gone…..they have no real constructive ideas, no plans, no employment or economic strategy…….just megaphones and illegible signs. They should be hooting and hollering down in DC but that's too much of a leap of logic for these Orwellian lemming people. All they want to do is disrupt traffic and be on TV.

    • BS77

      Too bad OWS mobs cannot channel their energy into something constructive like volunteering to help the disabled, the blind, the poor, the unemployed, people in shelters….you know, do something helpful instead of blocking traffic, smashing windows and throwing trash all over the place. Hey OWS….get a life!!!

    • wobble

      This ows (I won't dignify those vermin with capital letters) fizzle-out reminds me of when I stood on the corner of Haight and Ashbury streets in Frisco in January 1969. the place looked like a cross between a deserted, bombed out city in "Call of Duty" and a rotting garbage dump. The hippie era was finally fizzling out, crumbling beneath the weight of its own debauchery and filth, just like ows is now.

  • howdydoody

    I was there last night…. the author of this article clearly wasn't. Never mind the media, never mind the polls, this was a nationwide event that is only going to grow.

    And by the way…. I have a job and I pay taxes.

    • tagalog

      What do you do? What's your tax rate? How much income tax did you pay last year?

      • howdydoody

        NOYB Tagalog, but if you must know, I'm in the 25% tax bracket. I've never missed a payment.

        • Oleg

          Let's see, you have a job, and pay taxes of 25%, but you have time to camp out in a park? That makes no sense whatsoever unless you are one of the guys collecting $22 an hour that I heard about.
          As for OWS being a nationwide event that is only going to grow, now that you've been kicked out of Wall Street, that sort of puts you in the same position as Jefferson Davis' when he decreed that he was fleeing Richmond to raise another army.

          • Herman Caintonette

            Ever read Alinsky? "A good tactic is one your people enjoy." "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Man can sustain militant interest in any issue for only a limited time…."

            The encampments have started to outlive their usefulness, but as long as the Establishment continues to overreact, it only makes the movement stronger.

          • tagalog

            You're right about the "Establishment" overreacting.

            They have done one thing right, though; they haven't busted any heads. Personally, I favor the tactic of giving out tickets for violating hours and camping limitations, increases the city's revenue (without taxation) and avoids any incidents that can be blown up into some cause celebre.

          • Herman Caintonette

            Tell that to Scott Olsen.

        • http://visionsandprinciples.blogspot.com/ InRussetShadows

          And you support raising taxes even more so that you'll have less money. Talk about working against your own self-interest. Then again, leftists are certainly nothing if, erm, intelligent, right?

          • Herman Caintonette

            So, where do we cut? Let's start with our bloated military. Withdraw the Sixth Fleet from Haifa. Cut Israel off!!!

            We have to pay for the public commons, and the first place to start is the one place you care the most about.

        • tagalog

          You're the one who brought up your taxes.

          Sounds like you're a One Percenter. Must be fun at those Occupy Whatever sites you go to.

    • http://apollospaeks.blogtownhall.com/ ApolloSpeaks

      This movement wants to grow, grow our national debt by 100% in an orgy of destructive, bankrupting redistributionism-just like the rioting mobs in catastrophic, socialist, sinking, pathetic Greece.

      • Herman Caintonette

        I say, raise tariffs — slap a 100% tariff on anything from China. Impose a national property tax, set up along the lines suggested by Thomas Jefferson. Cut the bloated military down to size. Put Americans back to work rehabilitating our decrepit infrastructure. We can borrow money at 2%.

        • tagalog

          Yes, just like the Smoot-Hawley tariff. That's the hot ticket.

          I'm OK with a national property tax as long as we eliminate forever the income tax. I say that as a property owner. It would be a good idea if we made the property owners the only voters, too, but that's a bit too republican for these days, I think.

          • Herman Caintonette

            Smoot-Hawley didn't cause the Depression, or even exacerbate it in any material way.

          • Roco

            So you want to reconstitute rule by a landed gentry? Really? Will you next advocate hereditary titles?

          • tagalog

            I don't think I'm interested in reconstituting anything, except maybe my morning orange juice.

            I advocate rule by elected representatives. I am leery of rule by elected representatives voted into office by those who have no economic stake in this economy.

            No, I won't be advocating hereditary titles next.

  • advancedatheist

    I worry that these nihilists, following what happened in Seattle, will exploit more vulnerable seniors to act as "human shields." They have no business taking advantage of people in their 70's and older for their propaganda purposes.

  • UCSPanther

    They're fizzling out….

    ..for now. However, I fear that we will see more of them as the economic downturn continues and their entitlements become a thing of the past.

    • tagalog

      They are fizzing out. It was just a week ago that the authorities began ousting them from the parks, and they've already largely disappeared.

      In my town, they got ousted when their permit ran out last night at midnight. One a.m. and the tents were taken down by the cops. Somebody began bitching that they'd get another permit, but they vandalized the base of a statue, writing in spray paint, "Humans Unite!" so it seems unlikely that their permit will be renewed, particularly since the folks who got tickets for violating park hours and camping restrictions also vandalized the sidewalk outside the Municipal Courthouse, writing nasty stuff about justice being bought and other predictable crap like that.
      Have you noticed the outrage that some folks who sat down and refused to disperse from some park when ordered to were pepper-sprayed? Somebody will raise Concord and Lexington, no doubt (Major Pitcairn and all that), but it was on the news on Saturday and seems to have been largely forgotten today, the following Monday.

    • tagalog

      They are fizzling out. Starting a week ago, they were shouting to the skies that they weren't done yet, that their movement has legs and will survive the park ouster. Today, all that's left is the faux outrage over the pepper-spraying of the students at some Calfiornia university when they refused to move when ordered to do so. Ho-hum.

      • Herman Caintonette

        See Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. The movement is not dead, or even seriously injured. If anything, the Nazi York Stormtroopers have only strengthened it.

        • tagalog

          Uh-huh.

  • tony

    I hope these things don't end for quite some time. As always, the radical leftists go overboard because they're utterly incapable of self control. I cannot wait until we see ads showing Dear Leader Obama embracing the OWS "movement" juxtaposed against the filth and human debris that composes the OWS crowd.

  • JakeIrie

    There were marches around in the country last in night in every major city. How is this movement over again?

    I know the idea of them fizzling out appeals to many of the readers of this tabloid, however unfortunately you're simply not living in reality.

    You don't have to agree with everything they say, but at least acknowledge that the ones in government and the ones running the banks have wrecked the global economy. Our fate rests in the hands of a Super Committee right now! Like that will work. I'm not sure what the complete solution is (I have an idea or two), but if we don't rectify our current trends we are certainly all screwed. To think the ones who got us in this mess (US government, a number of large financial institutions ie. THE FED) are going to get us out of it is simply moronic.

    So it may seem impossible for yourself to identify with some homeless looking hippie protesters, but lets find some common ground here and try to save our country.

    • NotaBene

      Don't waste your time. The buffoons here aren't interested in saving enough but their own prejudices.

      • Herman Caintonette

        Israel über alles! Anyone who doesn't agree with the Israel-First traitors on this board is considered the enemy.

        • Oleg

          There Hermie goes again, denouncing New York city cops as Nazi stormtroppers in one post, then launching into another anti Isreal or anti semitic tirade on the same message board.

          • Herman Caintonette

            If the shoe fits, wear it….

            Acknowledging that the indigenous Arabs have a superior claim to the land that is called "Israel" than 20th century European settlers is not anti-Semitic.

          • pagegl

            Hermy, you're a complete dolt relative to the history of Judea. Then again, I guess you might believe they also have a superior claim to Andalusia and the Balkan peninsula.

          • Herman Caintonette

            I'm quite familiar with it, page. http://unispal.un.org/unispal.nsf/796f8bc05ec4f30

            How does a person with one-millionth of a percent Semitic heritage — a blond-haired, blue-eyed Jew, whose distant forebears left the land as much as 2,500 years ago — have a superior claim to that land than a man who had a deed to that land, issued by the Crown or the Ottoman Empire?

            That is not a persuasive argument.

          • pagegl

            Most of Judea was possessed by absentee landowners in Syria, Lebanon, Turkey, and elsewhere. Much of the land that was owned by the actual residents was oftentimes acquired by the rich absentee landowners (once again, in what seems to be a fairly consistent occurrence, powerful Arabs screwed the less powerful, much like is happening still in the Middle East today) who subsequently sold to the Jews.
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_land_purchase

            Until the mid twentieth century the area was sparsely populated. The few folks who were there didn't have much claim to the land (check the section titled 'Arab Reaction'). So, the superior claim you reference was probably sold for way more than the land was really worth but selling one's property no matter the price tends to eliminate one's claim.

            BTW, most of the Jewish immigrants to Judea were way more Semitic than you would have use believe, check out :
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews

            Before you ping me for using Wikipedia as a source, you might want to consider that it probably is no less reliable than a UN commission that is chaired by Muslims and a Cuban.

          • tagalog

            Jews NEVER left Judea entirely. There was a Jewish presence in the Holy Land from the time of Joshua onward. There was a Jewish government of Judea/Israel during Roman times (it had lasted from about 2,000 B.C. until the time of Augustus Caesar), and it continued up to the time of the Muslim conquest in the 7th Century A.D. After that, the Christian Byzantines, then the Muslim Ottomans ruled until World War I, then the British were charged by the League of Nations with administering the Holy Land as a British Protectorate, then the land was restored to Israel. Do you think the Muslims were entitled to the land? But then, what can you say about the white man's conquest of the American West?

            Arabs never ruled in the Holy Land. Muslims did for a couple of centuries or so until they were overthrown by the Byzantine Empire, then the Ottomans restored Muslim rule for several centuries (700 – 800 years) until the 20th Century.

          • Herman Caintonette

            Census figures argue otherwise.

    • tagalog

      Whatever marches there might have been seem to have been largely ignored, which is fine to me. The OWS folks aren't interesting enough to justify all the attention they're getting, although the attention they're getting is interesting in its own right.

      I would be happy to try to find some common ground with the OWS types, except for the fact that I keep seeing videos in which OWS people keep telling others that they don't belong among them, such folks as news reporters, the so-called 1%, people wearing jackets and ties, the bourgeois, and so on.

      Also, since they won't state any coherent grounds for their protests, I can't evaluate their position because they don't seem to have any position other than being angry and dissatisfied.

      • Herman Caintonette

        Stop watching the FAUX Propaganda Network. There is common ground that can be found.

  • mrbean

    Now we have to get out the lysol and bleach and and clean up after these non potty trained child-adults. These occupiers are human genetic refuse who only significance is they were defecating and urinating in public and making squalor.

  • Harry Martin

    Their website said, " World revolution is the solution. "

  • pyeatte

    Could the small businesses and cities that suffered economic damage, file a class-action
    against certain unions like the SEIU and other organizations like ACORN that financially
    supported the mobs and egged them on? the Dems were also guilty of encouraging the
    barbarians. Ditto Van Jones and his gang.

    • Herman Caintonette

      In a word, no.

      • Oleg

        Yes Hermie is a certified legal scholar, well at least according to his fellow lavatory attendents Jim and Bob.

        • Herman Caintonette

          Think about it for a minute. The only possible cause of action in tort would be for interference with economic advantage, but allowing recovery merely for exercising one's First Amendment rights of speech and assembly would effectively void the Amendment. Labor unions in Wisconsin and Ohio could sue Fox News and the Koch Klux Klan into bankruptcy, and that would cast a pall on everyone's freedom of speech. No chance on this one.

          • MikeGiles

            Only if you assume that defecating on the public sidewalks is "speech" , and protected by the first amendment. The courts don't consider any and all actions to be protected "speech". Simply declaring that you are exercising your First Amendment rights doesn't automatically make it so. It's back to the old "Fire, in a crowded theater" example. Actions and/or speech that pose a clear danger, are not protected. You can't set off a bomb to make a point.

          • Herman Caintonette

            When's the last time you took a whiz on the golf course, Mike?

          • pagegl

            Do those rights apply to private property?
            http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/con

          • Herman Caintonette

            The easement makes it part of the public commons.

  • PAthena

    The Occupy Wall Street and their kindred Occupy demonstrators are selfish, greedy, conceited, would-be tyrants. They claim to represent 99% of Americans – but have not the slightest evidence for this claim, unlike elected officials who represent the voters.

    • NotaBene

      Elected officials like Obama?

    • Herman Caintonette

      And they differ from Teabaggers exactly how? Theirs is a one-note song: "Me! Me! ME! ME! ME! MEEEEEEE!"

  • howdydoody

    More like "The End of The Right" and it's narrative of free markets, low taxes and "income inequality and joblessness" are good things!

    • Herman Caintonette

      Our Founding Fathers were in much the same situation in 1774. The OWS Declaration is the functional equivalent of the Suffolk Resolves.

      They eventually had to resort to violence. Will we? Only time will tell.

      • WilliamJamesWard

        Herman even for you that lie is disgusting, the Founders were out for
        self government not denegrating freedom to expose mob stupidity.
        William

        • Herman Caintonette

          You're not paying attention. This is about the fact that politicians in both parties are owned by the same oligarchs, and that the common people no longer have a say in their government.

          "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness."

          This system doesn't work. There are ways to alter it, so we won't have to abolish it altogether.

  • geo11

    Losers trying to be relevant. If you want to make a difference and change things get a job. Any job that will sustain you , get politically active and work for your politician of choice. Use the TEA Party as your guide. This advice I suspect will fall on deaf ears as the majority of the OWS wish to provoke violence, party, want free stuff and blame others for being losers.

    • Herman Caintonette

      You're a loser yourself. Many OWS supporters are gainfully employed, more skilled, and better educated than you.

      The Tea Party is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Koch Klux Klan.

  • Geneww

    The 1% could use the old cliché; ‘Let them eat cake if they are out of bread’.
    The protestors have something to do while collecting taxpayer’s unemployment and welfare plus support from unions and communists. They are doing what they can to destroy what is left of USA while there is still time. Name a single positive attribute provided by any member of this mob.
    Even the RHINOs help! While disease infest the roots, they torpedo praying candidates like Bachmann and Cain and push candidates who are pro ‘New World Order’, comfortable with ‘UN control’ and the elimination of the ‘Judeo-Christian tenets and values’.
    What risks to USA security? Anyone concerned when defense contractor GE dismantles our economy, build new research centers in China and is then moving there?

    • Herman Caintonette

      The wounds suffered by Bachmann and Cain are purely self-inflicted.

  • myohmy

    These idiot OWS trash needs a lesson in democracy. If the cops don't start protecting the rights of we the people instead of these lazy freeloading turds we're goiing to have to meet them in the streets ourselves and teach them that democracy doesn't mean a small percentage of freeloading troublemakers is not in control.

    • Herman Caintonette

      We haven't had a democracy (technically, our nation is a republic) for quite some time. Every politician (with a precious few examples like Bernie Sanders and Ron Paul) of any consequence has been bought and paid for by the oligarchs.

      That's why we need troublemakers. That's why we need OWS.

    • Jim_C

      They ARE "we the people." When you start talking about protecting rights of this or that class of people, it seems to me you require a course in democracy 101.

      I was careful not to make fun of the TEA party and I have never once referred to anyone involved with that protest as a "t-bagger." I found their complaints as nebulous as many here find those of OWS. And just as the TEA party was full of retired old people, OWS is full of college age young people. Boh protest featured weird people dressed wacky and carrying knuckleheaded signs. Both wre exercising their Constitutional rights and both managed to occupy a news cycle that would otherwise be devoted to the Kardashians.

      These days in the USA, I say the weirder, the better.

  • Herman Caintonette

    Now, we have Anonymous on our side! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/18/hacker-g

    Can't wait to see who is sleeping with which male prostitute….

    • UCSPanther

      Ah yes, Anonymous:

      A pack of basement dwelling anarchists who can only commit petty cybercrime.

      I'd take OWS more seriously if they had the Los Zetas on their side…

      • Herman Caintonette

        They got scoreboard.

    • tagalog

      The cop investigates identity theft and Anonymous hacked the Arizona police computers on computer crime to reveal their investigative techniques? I wonder how many OWS folks will suffer because of that… It's like protesting against the financiers when the government has been the bad guy.

      The article says, "Unlike earlier hacks by the group, this one comes at a time when talk of police brutality and abuse is happening all over the Internet. " They can hardly wait.

      Yes, talk. Not that it's actually happening, but it sure is getting talked about on the net.

  • MikeGiles

    BTW, I keep hearing that term "income inequality". Is there some logical reason that we should assume that everyone should be paid the same wages for different job skills. And if they are paid differently, would you prefer that some thing other than the market set the wages?

    • Maxie

      When dealing with the Left, logic has no relevance. The left runs on feel-goodery: All the kids get a trophy just for participating. No one keeps score. Everybody's a winner. That's life! Khumbaya!

    • Jim_C

      Income inequality is not my concern. Income should be unequal. What is my concern is the income gap–the chasm between what our top "earners" make, and what the middle class makes. Wages for the middle class have been relatively stagnant; the wealthy, thanks to government policies, regulations, and deregulations, have gotten exponentially wealthier. So this is not "producers" vs. "lazy bums;" this is the picture of income distribution across the country.

      Try to read that without reading "wealth envy" into it. Instead, think of it more like a national security problem. The BEST thing to come out of such a gap is social unrest. The worst I don't even like to think about.

      Now, according to yesterday's fool, Herman Cain, it's YOUR fault you're not rich. Well, it's not about being rich. People who want to be rich, can choose fields that make lots of money. But people who are just looking to make a living for their families, with costs of living–fuel, college, housing, retirement–skyrocketing, you can pretty much kiss any form of meritocracy goodbye and enjoy the feudal aristocracy that replaces.

  • 13Sisters76

    The one thing the leftists supporting this nonsense didn't realize: children become easily bored.

  • pagegl

    "That is precisely how the Nazis were able to dehumanize the Jews." Great line coming from someone who attempted to justify the killing of Israeli children.

    Actually, the Nazis came to power using and starting movements similar to OWS and its anti-Semitism.

    • Herman Caintonette

      Again, try to can explain to me how it is that it was morally correct for your sadistic, capricious, and generally psychotic ancient tribal sky-daddy to kill the first-born son of every Egyptian family as punishment for Pharoah's acts of tyranny, while the victims of Zionist tyranny cannot do the same to Jewish kids.

      To denounce me, you also have to denounce YHWH. Differing weights and measures….

      • pagegl

        I'm basically real areligious so my sky daddy has no bearing on your silly argument. Whatever happened 2 or 3 thousand years ago is basically irrelevant to today. The supposed victims of Zionist tyranny bring any response of force on themselves. Especially when they purposely put themselves in such a position that any response by the Israelis causes collateral damage. Of course, that is by design, the terrorists don't give a rat's ass what happens to their people as long as they can use it for public relations. Besides, using your logic Muslims should continue to kill themselves since Muslims have killed more Muslims than the Israelis.

        • Herman Caintonette

          The Palestinians are fighting for their land, and the right to self-determination. If we had the right to do this and use violence to attain that end, why do they not have that right?

          • Chris Nichols

            We have been over this Hermy, there are no Palestinians, they were made up by the Romans. There is no Palestine.

  • John_Kelly

    OWS will grow and grow and grow like any normal malignant cancer.

    However there will come a tipping point and the cancer will need to be "treated" or "surgically removed."

    Obama is just beginning to lift his mask and show his true colors by supporting these guys.

    Fasten your seat belt America you ain't seen nothing yet and Obama will use "lawlessness" as his greatest tactic as he has NOTHING of substance to offer.

  • WilliamJamesWard

    The day of dummies may continue into the future but will suffer the backlash
    of the American people who are fed up with leftist political trash and leftist
    education that has produced the idiots who occupy empty heads via the
    halls of miseducation, socialist training camps that need to be defunded
    along with the Nationally destructive Department of Education……..William

  • WilliamJamesWard

    Herman to evoke the Declaration of Independence in regards to my not paying
    attention could mean a few things, one I am playing checkers but absenting that
    I could in no way find a relationship between OWS and Thomas Jefferson or
    John Adams or any founder. Your slippery uptake is obviously a mistake,
    for in the first place the slackers and loons of OWS do not know or understand
    our origins as a nation and if they do they reject all of the principles of free men.
    It is possible one percent 1% of them would conceive of such and putatively
    so but you would be correct if you were refering to the tea party who are
    the 99% who OWS is actually out to block and obfuscate in their masquerade

    Political corruption is what the vast majority of Americans are out to end but
    the leftist effort at destroying America and ensconing a Socialist/Communist
    maladministration is opposite the will of the Nation and out of orbit considering
    the character and nature of the founders……………………………….William

  • http://www.twitter.com/johndurandal Durandal

    Funny, if OWS was fizzing out or so pathetic, why are Wall Street Lobbyist paying big bucks to try to slander it and to buy politicians to fight against it?

    http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/19

    • Herman Caintonette

      In Whoreowitz's Bizarro-World, Iran is an existential threat, and bankers are our friends. OWS is winning the day and the narrative and they know it, which is why they are fighting so hard. This passage is worth its weight in gold:

      "It will be vital to understand who is funding it and what backgrounds and motives are. If we can show they have the same cynical motivation as a political opponent…."

      The same cynical motive as the Astroturfed Tea Party — owned by Dick Armey and the Koch Klux Klan? The Tea Partiers are useful idiots — well, closer to tree stumps than mere idiots, judging by this forum, Redstate, and Townhall — and everyone knows it.

      • tagalog

        Well, if Iran gets the nuclear bomb and then decides to EMP us, that will be rather nasty. I hope Hymie doesn't have any special medical needs.

        The financiers being the friends of the United States reminds of when J.P. Morgan paid off the U.S. national debt. I guess the days of governmental thrift enough to make that possible are over.

        • Jim_C

          Tagalog, I, too, am nostalgic for the days when the captains of industry actually felt a twinge of loyalty toward the country that provided the soil for them to grow their success.

          • tagalog

            Well, of course, the time of J.P. Morgan was a time when the U.S. government was friendly toward industry, not hostile to it. It was a time when a President could say "The business of America is business" and no one would find that particularly remarkable. Today, any president who said that would of course be pilloried.

            I don't know that I would join you in feeling nostalgia for those days. But I would agree that they did have a more sensible attitude in some ways toward the relationship of government and the governed, although I am skeptical about the old standard in commerce of "caveat emptor" and am not totally supportive of laissez-faire.

        • Herman Caintonette

          Hymie?! Racist to the core!

          Remember when Jesse Jackson called New York City "Hymietown?"

          • UCSPanther

            As usual, you make zero sense…

          • Herman Caintonette

            …to a microencephalic idiot like you.

          • tagalog

            Yeah, Hymie Castanet, isn't that right?

            Hello, sailor…

            What up, Hyme?

    • Herman Caintonette

      Amusingly, they admit that OWS is a grassroots movement — unlike the Astroturfed Tea Party owned by Dick Armey and the Koch Klux Klan.

      • UCSPanther

        A grassroots movement of smelly two-bit hippies and vagrants.

        • Herman Caintonette

          You mean, like the anti-war effort in Vietnam? That one worked. This will, too.

          • UCSPanther

            Not this time, loser.

            Occupy Toronto was cleaned out and Occupy Victoria more or less quietly died.

            Your glory days of the '60s are dead. Accept it. The sooner you do, the easier it is…

          • Herman Caintonette

            I wouldn't want to stay outdoors through a Canadian winter, either.

            Why not change tactics, and keep your powder dry until Spring?

      • Chris Nichols

        The Koch Klux Klan, wow, did you come up with that yourself? In the mind of a diseased leftist like you, the Koch brothers, who made their money through voluntary transactions running a business selling fertilizer, and probably employs a lot of minorities, is the equivalent of the Klan. Meanwhile, George Soros, a man with real ties to Wall Street, and Nazis, is funding this whole "grass roots" movement aimed at destroying capitalism and private property, while he gets to keep his and the rest of the useful idiots get to fight over the scraps. You make this too easy sometimes. You are rooting for your own destruction.

        • Herman Caintonette

          The kids made their money the old-fashioned way: they INHERITED it. Best argument I can make for an effective estate tax.

          I don't care how they made their money; I do care that they are actively undermining our Republic.

    • tagalog

      What's the name of the Wall Street lobbyist? What politicians are being bought? New York politicians? Why would anyone try to attack the OWS people by buying New York politicians? New York politicians all support OWS.

  • Maxie

    From the (MSNBC) report:
    "The memo indicates that CLGC would research who has contributed financial backing to OWS, noting that, “Media reports have speculated about associations with George Soros and others.”
    I think it fits the category of 'know thy enemy'. A reasonable underaking since someone has organized and financed this outdoor Poop & Pee fest and the MSM Ministry of Leftist Propaganda is too busy cheerleading it to do any objective reporting.

  • Fred Dawes

    Keep watching.

  • tagalog

    The Nazis characterized the Jews as the infamous "stab in the back" to the German nation. They also said the Jews, when they weren't financiers betraying Germany for the almighty mark, were Bolshevik Communists (interesting). The Nazis didn't characterize the Jews as lacking self control. They characterized them as racially inferior, far too clever in the area of money (an interesting juxtaposition of values), and criminal.

    Just to remind yourself how the Nazis really were and how blasphemous it is to compare modern politics in America with the Nazis, please permit me to recommend in the strongest possible terms the PBS special currently running on the Nazi war criminals and the sad story of hunting them down (or NOT hunting them down).

    • Herman Caintonette

      Sounds a lot like the rhetoric being heaved at OWS by your ilk….

      • tagalog

        Who ARE my ilk? Could you be more specific? Got ilk?

        That PBS show is named Elusive Justice: The Hunt for Nazi War Criminals.

  • http://Hmmit seems

    Its such as you scan my mind! You seem to know so much about this, like you wrote the book in it or something. I think that you may do with some pics to drive the message home a very little bit, however alternative than that, this is often great blog. A great read.