Palestinian Statehood Bid Deadlocked

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For example, regarding the criterion of statehood, the 1933 Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States is generally considered as the best source for defining the international law standard. It is referenced in the admissions committee report.

The Montevideo Convention declares that in order for an entity to be considered a state under international law it should possess a permanent population, a defined territory, effective government control and the capacity to enter into relations with other states.

Given the prevailing support in the United Nations for a two-state solution based on the pre-1967 lines, with East Jerusalem as the capital of the independent state of Palestine, there was little discussion in the report about the lack of secure and recognized boundaries agreed upon with Israel pursuant to negotiations, as called for by Security Council Resolution 242. This failure to meet the defined territory statehood requirement should be enough to disqualify the Palestinian UN application since it does not meet the first threshold of statehood. Instead, according to the report, the committee members “stressed that the lack of precisely settled borders was not an obstacle to statehood.”

Some committee members did express doubts regarding the Palestine Authority’s control over all current Palestinian territory and governance of the entire Palestinian population, in light of the fact that Hamas is the de facto authority in the Gaza Strip and is in control of forty percent of the population of Palestine. However, other committee members were reported to be of the view that “the Israeli occupation was preventing the Palestinian government from exercising full control over all of its territory.” In other words, this point of view held that Hamas’s bloody coup in Gaza, throwing out the members of Abbas’s government and Fatah Party, was somehow all Israel’s fault. By laying the blame on Israel, the Palestinians get a free pass for their own inability to demonstrate the capacity for self-government under a single authority.

With regard to the UN Charter’s requirement that an applicant be “peace-loving,” the view was expressed, according to the report, “that Palestine fulfilled this criterion in light of its commitment to the achievement of a just, lasting and comprehensive resolution of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.” However, this was disputed by some committee members who pointed to Hamas’s refusal to refrain from the threat or the use of force in the conduct of its international relations.

The Palestinians’ supporters dismiss the relevance of Hamas’s actions because they were not those of the Palestinians’ recognized governmental authority – the Palestinian Authority or PLO. This circular reasoning ignores that attempts are underway to bring Hamas into a unity government without requiring it to first renounce all acts of terrorism and recognize Israel’s right to exist.

The majority of UN members fall hook, line and sinker for the Palestinians’ victimhood narrative, casting Israel as the villainous oppressor. The truth is precisely the opposite. The Palestinians want a state of their own with the inalienable right of self-determination to decide its character, but continue to reject the Israelis’ own inalienable right of self-determination to live securely in the manner they choose to live – as a Jewish state.

Fortunately, support for Israel among the U.S. electorate remains strong. They see right through the Palestinians’ falsehoods. Support for Israel has risen to 60 percent, the highest level since 2009, according to a new poll published last week, conducted by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research in conjunction with Public Opinion Strategies. This increase in support comes on the heels of the stalled Palestinian efforts to avoid negotiations with Israel and unilaterally declare statehood via the United Nations.

Respondents characterize Israel as “one of our strongest allies” (68 percent) and a “democracy”  (66 percent), while rejecting the notion that Israel is “extremist” (61 percent) or “responsible for the violence” (65 percent). By contrast, Palestinians are considered “extremist” (56 percent) and an “obstacle to peace” (56 percent).  Moreover, the Palestinians are not considered to be “victims” (55 percent).

Nearly three-quarters (73 percent) support the idea of a two-state for two peoples solution, “with Israel as a homeland of the Jewish people and Palestine as the homeland of the Palestinian people.”

As long as the Palestinian leadership persists in rejecting such a two-state for two peoples solution, the United Nations will not be able to save the Palestinians from themselves.

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  • UCSPanther

    For all the braying of the Palestinian supporters online, the "country" they root for is no more than a shabby construct. It is a failed state, a place where the terror groups rule, and don't care about their subjects, viewing them only as a source of recruits, suicide bomber fodder, propaganda points and resources for them to pilfer. As such, it is hard to see how such a "state" will survive for much longer (Causing me to wager that it will implode in a few decades, becoming no more than a dark memory).

    The UN is also a joke as well.

    • alex

      In that case U.S. and Israel are even bigger terrorist because they kill innocent palestinians, Iraqi, and Afghanis.

      • stern

        Perhaps you'd be more comfortable posting in Arabic? You might find Arabic sites more to your liking as well.

        • Herman Caintonette

          And your rank in the Mossad is?

          • ziontruth

            And your rank in the KKK is?

      • ziontruth


        • Herman Caintonette

          Facts simply are … but drooling Evilgelical Christian snake-handling nut-cases like you wouldn't know about that.

          • ziontruth

            "…but drooling Evilgelical Christian snake-handling nut-cases like you…"

            I'm an Orthodox Jew, but OK, I realize all theistic believers with the odd (or not so odd—explained quite easily as appeasement) exception of the Muslims are equally anathema in your Enlightened eyes.

          • InRussetShadows

            Hahaha. Boy did your assumptions bite you in the butt! And how many snake-handling Christians do you suppose there are in the entire world? Uhm, not many — but it goes to show you that people who make crazy claims are usually projecting.

      • UCSPanther

        To bad, lefty.

        Palestine will be finished by the time the 21st century wraps up.

      • InRussetShadows

        Alex, are you really that stupid? Incidents where the US troops have killed innocents are A C C I D E N T S. Incidents where Palis kill innocents are P U R P O S E F U L. That is, the US has no plans to target bystanders, women, children, and so forth, but Palis target innocent people on purpose.

        Quick quiz: who makes the claim that there are no bystanders (thus no innocents)? Who goes out of their way to develop precision bombs, missiles, and so forth (with the objective of minimizing innocent deaths)?

  • StephenD

    There is no such entity as Palestinians. They are not a distinct people. Even so, Israel has been willing to negotiate a real peace with them. It is not to be however, when the goal of these "people" is to annihilate Israel; teaching from cradle to grave that they should be honored to die while killing Jews is an affront to humanity. The UN shows it's true colors by promoting such a move and as was stated in the article that:

    “By all objective measures, the Palestinians fail on all counts.” So does the UN.

    • Herman Caintonette

      They were the owners of the land.

      • ziontruth

        "They were the owners of the land."

        Nope. The Ottoman Empire was, and it's long gone.

        P.S. And it's none of your business.

        • Joseph A. Klein

          Well said! The notion that Jews were outsiders who emigrated to the Holy Land and seized land illegally while the Palestinians were its original inhabitants is bogus. Jews bought their land from Turks of the Ottoman Empire who owned the land. The ancestors of today's Palestinians were not native to the land. They emigrated from Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Sudan, Algeria and Libya, migrating largely during the 1800's into the 20th century. 30,000-36,000 Syrians migrated in the 1930's alone.

  • mrbean

    Listen up dhimmis – it is a matter of record that Palestinians strap munitions on their own women and children and send them out on homicide-suicide missions to murder other innocent women and children in markets, restuarants, on school buses, and in their homes. The Palestinians in their own words and by their actions are committed to the genocide of the Jewish people abd the destruction of Israel, therefore, have foreited their rights to even exist at all let alone having a UN and US sanctioned seat in UNESCO and/or a UN and US sanctioned terrorist state of their own.

  • cindy

    Disgusting…… the Palestinians have to bargin wth isrHELL a state that ethnicllly cleansed them for the past 68 yrs nothing will change ,the only way to gain freedom is to fight for freedom not bargin. Through out history that land has been through so many crimes from the mongols,crusades now a cruler oppresion IsraHELL and we know what happened to those other ruthless empires there gone beacause the people in that region knew fighting for your rights is the only way to be freeeeee and those empires were stronger then ISraHELL . The point is they fought for freedom, NO BARGAINING you call yourself a christain im sorry JESUS is not going to walk over palestinian corpses most of them childern and women ha HYPOCRITE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • ziontruth

      "…the [Arab settlers] have to bargin wth isrHELL a state that ethnicllly cleansed them for the past 68 yrs…"

      68 years ago no one thought of calling the Arab colonist land-thieves in Palestine "Palestinians." That means no one, not even they themselves.

      "Through out history that land has been through so many crimes from the mongols,crusades now a cruler oppresion…"

      Yes: The Arab imperialists and their allies in the West, the Marxist agents of treason and assorted neo-Nazis (like some who post here on FPM, hint hint).

      Back you go to hell, your original home, before you catch a cold here.

    • alan g

      Are you telling us he would prefer to walk over dead Israell bodies in his own domain, the one that he promised to these people? Give me a freaking break.

    • InRussetShadows

      The fight for "freedom" isn't going so well for your merry band of honor killers is it, Cindy? They can't even aim rockets correctly. All they can do is sneak into places and blow themselves up — sounds like some real bravery there. Also, do you have any idea how stupid you sound when you spend all your time in run-on sentence land? Hurry and logoff before your hubby sees you on the computer without his permission. He'll beat you for sure.

  • cindy

    Listen (mr bean) i bet your a look like of mr bean LOL , anyways back to the point the only people killing and destroying other peoples life is ISREHELL ,mudering palestinian childern women heck even destroying the trees and plants and animals .Lets face it isreHELL is a plaque in the middle east it will be a matter of time when it gets destroyed look at its on people desperate for the worlds attention to belive that they are GODS CHOSEN PEOPLE LOL you guys are a disgrace for humanity. Wait a minute i just had dream oh my god ,yaweh told me i can have hawai and japan ,france ha ha wait i have to catch by breath, england ,india ,spain ,USA oh wait i already have that stupied country, and the capital is JEW YORK thats how jews think not all but the majority and thats a fact read history!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by the way whats up with the dhimiis thing how about Goyim.

    • ziontruth

      "…look at its on people desperate for the worlds attention…"

      Fact is, we'd prefer the world stopped devoting so much attention to us. It would be better for the world, not just for us Israeli Jews, if people started attending to the real problems of the world.

      You don't want to hear Israel in the news so much? Get the news agencies and policymakers to stop focussing on Israel so much. Very easy!

      "…and the capital is JEW YORK thats how jews think…"

      ♪Jew York, Jew York…♫

      Mudering peeple is a plaque on hunamity. Ha ha wait, thats stupied. LOLzor

      • Herman Caintonette

        Jesse Jackson could sing the encore: "Won't you take me to … Hymietown?"

        You steal my land, and it is your REAL problem, Zionut. How can I deny that right of revenge to others, Shylock?

        • ziontruth

          "Jesse Jackson could sing the encore…"

          Why Jesse Jackson? You're a much better singer. I mean, no one performs the Horst Wessel Lied better than you.

          "You steal my land, and it is your REAL problem, Zionut."

          I steal nothing, they want to steal and do a classic turnspeak. But that's not the issue. I wish to know why it's your business at all. And don't give me "Because my country's giving aid to Israel"—you've already made it clear that cessation of America's aid to Israel won't be enough to please you (you want Israel bankrupted).

          "How can I deny that right of revenge to others, Shylock?"

          Very well. Then neither can I deny, for example, the Russians' right to burn Chechnya's cities to the ground in revenge for Beslan. Right, Adolf?

    • Ted

      Wow Cindy, Hate much? revise history much? Do you really understand Islam at all.
      The whole problem can be laid at islams doorstep. Period. This isn't about land or the ficticious people you call palestinians or anything else other than islams command to conquer and destroy all things un-islamic.

  • kgf

    For UCS panther you know there will be a day were good honest humble people will fight the evil in this world, you sure are a part of these evil weirdoes, anyhow PALESTINE is a very ancient country with its people dating back to the Canaanites days before the Israelites were even homeless slaves living in Egypt and then wandering around the Sinai desert like freaking thieves.

    • UCSPanther

      Got a problem, lefty?

      The truth hurts. Glad I could blow your small mind.

      Also, if you want to attack me, remember: I have a nasty tendency to shoot back…

      • StephenD

        UCS: "Also, if you want to attack me, remember: I have a nasty tendency to shoot back… "

        Now that would just be uncivilized…shooting at retards is just…wrong.

        kgf: "PALESTINE is a very ancient country…." HAhahahahahahaha

  • kgf

    ( to be continued)Palestinians compromise of so many nationalities they mixed with a lot of empires that once upon a time conquered that land and were gone in a few decades. That’s why Palestinians look different than other Arabs because they have been Arabized meaning they speak Arabic but are ethnically not; that’s why you find a blond to a redhead to a tan to a very pale Palestinian mostly look Mediterranean, some are Muslim ,Christian atheist. Israel is an apartheid country that was created in 1948 by explosion and massacres of the native Palestinians, Jaffa aka Haifa these are famous ancient Palestinian cities and were built by the Canaanites their names are in the Canaanites language. What has Israel bought to this world but a headache to the east and west I could argue that even Nazi Germany contributed to this world in science medicine much more then Israel , sorry they don’t even come close to what Germany did.

    • ziontruth

      "…I could argue that even Nazi Germany contributed to this world in science medicine much more then Israel , sorry they don’t even come close to what Germany did."

      Just an inch away from expressing its (this creature's) true thought that it was most unfortunate for the Germans to have been defeated before finishing their great work.

  • kgf

    Israel is full of radicals who think god told them they can kill steal from the non-Jews and they are better than everybody else this self-entitlement will lead to its isolation and destruction it’s only a matter of years. The whole world knows Israel is a crime against humanity.

    • UCSPanther

      Yep. A textbook case of projection here…

    • ziontruth

      Sieg Akbar, as they say.

    • InRussetShadows

      You'd think that Hamas would at least put periods in the ready-made agitprop they send to their followers.

  • purple ring

    Have you seen obama and sarkozy calling isreal and its leadership liars thier micros were on they were telling the truth im not a fan of niether but they are still cowards because they did not say it to the public or the media. face it everyone in the world is sick and tired of isreal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. isreal do us a favour and leave humanity alone go too mars for all i care.

    • InRussetShadows

      Ok, I'm not sick of Israel. Therefore, your logic "everyone in the world" fails. What are you, a third-grader? Nanny nanny boo boo? *laughs*

  • kohl

    Isrealis get youself in a car and drive yourself into the sea jewish bedouins. BOYCUTT ISRHELL PLZ. they deserve to be ignored .

    • UCSPanther

      If this is what the opposition looks like, then this is going to be easy.

      Just like bedbugs, the Pro-Palestinian crowd hide in cracks and crevices, and come out to make nuisances of themselves at opportune times.

  • Right

    It was the europeans and germans who wanted to exterminate the jews funny the worst thing a human can do to harm himself is not to know who exaclty his enemy is stupied isrealis!!!!!!!!! i mean that could lead to your own destruction.

    • UCSPanther

      And look where that thinking led Hitler and Nasser.

      Both got defeated, and their legacies are no more than bitter memories…

      • Herman Caintonette

        Hitler would have succeeded, had he only had the good sense to ally with Russia.

        • ziontruth

          Betcha your eyes welled with tears when you wrote that. Tears of lamentation that he hadn't succeeded.

        • UCSPanther

          Yep. We have a confession here…

  • Flowerknife_us

    If Jews cannot have a "Jewish State" then what makes one think the Muslims can have a "Muslim State"?

    Where is the logic that states one is OK while the other is not?

    • ziontruth

      "Where is the logic that states one is OK while the other is not?"

      The logic of appeasement (at best) or just plain Jew-hatred.

  • UCSPanther

    I just love posting logic and watching the pro-palestinian bedbugs come crawling out revealing what pests they are.

  • Debanjan Banerjee

    The last part of the article is disturbing though when it comes to American support about Israel.

    In my view , American electorate is the most uninformed and uneducated electorate ever. A people who can elect Mr. Bush (in 2004 despite the debacle in Iraq) and Mr. Obama (in 2008 despite that he has been nothing but a community oganizer with no experience in serious policymaking) is not a trustable entity to be given the job to decide on an issue like Israel-Palestine.

    I think Alexander Hamilton was right when he wanted a president-for-life who can be only elected by the informed and educated people presumably the ones who have property.