Successful Palestine Statehood Vote Looms

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The New York Times ran a banner front page headline on September 14, 2011 titled “U.S. Scrambles to Avert Palestinian Vote at U.N.”

The Times headline should have read, “The Obama Administration Scrambles to Avoid Its Own Self-Fulfilling Prophesy.”

Next week, the United Nations General Assembly will almost certainly approve an upgrade of the status of the Palestinian Authority from nonvoting “observer entity” to “observer state,” placing it on par with the Holy See. This will happen whether or not the Palestinians try for full UN member state status, which would first require approval by the Security Council.

President Obama has promised to veto such a Security Council resolution. However, the United States has only one vote in the General Assembly and cannot stop the General Assembly – packed with Palestinian supporters and Israel-bashers, including craven European countries – from granting observer state status to the Palestinians if they request it.

While a vote in the General Assembly alone would not confer full UN membership rights to a Palestinian state, it would open the door for the Palestinians to join various UN bodies and treaties. Of most concern to Israel, an observer state status might well allow the Palestinians to become a treaty member of the International Criminal Court (ICC) and pursue claims there against Israel for alleged war crimes, genocide and crimes against humanity. Although Israel is not itself a member of the ICC, the court could still take jurisdiction of such claims if they are alleged to have arisen within the territory of a Palestinian state that is an ICC member.

Outgoing U.S. Middle East envoy George Mitchell used the phrase “train wreck” in an interview last May to describe the upcoming UN vote.

Yet it was President Obama who helped set this train wreck in motion in a speech he delivered on September 23, 2010 to the UN General Assembly. In his speech, President Obama made a prediction that the Palestinians are now exploiting in support of their statehood bid. Obama declared to the UN General Assembly that “when we come back here next year, we can have an agreement that will lead to a new member of the United Nations – an independent, sovereign state of Palestine, living in peace with Israel.”

As Reuters reported on September 7, 2011, President Obama’s words are being used by the Palestinians to make international recognition of their statehood a reality. “If he said it, he must have meant it,” Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said during a 36-second radio spot promoting the Palestinians’ upcoming statehood campaign at the United Nations. Although Obama administration officials have stressed that Obama was speaking aspirationally within the context of reaching a negotiated agreement between Israel and the Palestinians, Abbas has chosen to characterize Obama’s words to the General Assembly last year as an “Obama promise.”

“We are reminding [Obama] of what he said in the United Nations in 2010,” said Ahmad Zaki ElAreedi, director of Voice of Palestine radio.

President Obama’s terms for what he proclaimed in his 2010 UN speech would be “an agreement that will lead to a new member of the United Nations – an independent, sovereign state of Palestine” would jeopardize Israel’s security.

From virtually the very beginning of his presidency, President Barack Obama has gone out of his way to push Israel into making unreasonable unilateral concessions. He demanded a freeze on all settlement building, including expansions of existing settlements. He validated the Palestinians’ bogus claims to East Jerusalem. And he threw Israel under the bus earlier this year with his irresponsible proposal that Israel negotiate borders with a new Palestinian state based on the indefensible pre-1967 lines, with some unspecified mutual land swaps.

Egypt’s UN ambassador, Maged Abdelaziz, explicitly linked President Obama’s “peace” proposal with “the efforts by the Palestinian leadership to garner the most possible number of recognitions of the state of Palestine on the borders of 1967, with those swaps.”

While expecting Israel to essentially return to pre-1967 conditions, Obama did not demand that the Palestinians simultaneously give up their “right of return” claim for millions of Palestinian refugees to relocate to the pre-1967 Israel territory, which would extinguish Israel’s identity as the world’s only homeland for the Jewish people. At the same time as demanding the “right of return” for Palestinians to pre-1967 Israel cities and towns, along with their own independent state, the Palestinians hypocritically do not want any Jews living anywhere in their independent state, according to the Palestinians’ ambassador to the United States. “I think it would be in the best interest of the two people to be separated,” he said, in a two-faced remark that ignored the contrary consequences of implementing the Palestinians’ “right of return” demand.

Meanwhile, the Obama administration has only lightly criticized the Palestinians’ plans to set up a so-called “unity government” backed by both Palestinian President Abbas, whose authority now extends only to the West Bank territory, and by the Iranian-backed terrorist organization Hamas, which controls Gaza and refuses to recognize Israel.

Some have argued that it is no big deal if the Palestinians succeed in obtaining General Assembly recognition of observer state status, since they still will not be a full-fledged member state in the United Nations as a whole. The European Union is reportedly trying to broker a compromise to avoid a showdown at the Security Council that would force the U.S. to exercise its veto of a resolution recommending full UN member state status. The thinking is to start with the baby step of observer state status and come back after the U.S. 2012 presidential election (which the Palestinians, Arab countries and Europe hope will lead to Obama’s re-election) for a full UN membership bid.

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  • Fred Dawes

    Right on our way to the third world war.

    • jenifer

      “We are reminding [Obama] of what he said in the United Nations in 2010,” said Ahmad Zaki ElAreedi, director of Voice of Palestine radio.9.7 inch tablet

  • crackerjack

    It's about "settlements" stupid ! Under 242, Israel's "settlement" policy is illegal. 242 gave Israel the right to administer it's occupation, not the right to create facts on the ground through settlement expansion and annexation pending a final solution.

    Israel is delegitimizing itself throught it's "settlement" policy. The UN has warned, the West has warned, the EU has warned for decades. Obama went on the brink of renunciation, putting the full weight of the President of the USA in the balance , begging Israel to at least halt it's "settlement" expansion and get back under 242 rules, before its to late.

    Instead of bashing Obama, Israelis schould be asking why the vital interests of the nation are being sacrificed on the alter of Religious Zionism's "Eretz Jisrael" fantasy.

    • flomboro

      l bet the lsraelis really relish the thought of doing "peace" deals with people who cheer when they hear about lsraeli babies throats being slit while they sleep in their cots.

    • Joseph Klein

      No, it's about Palestinian terrorism and rejection of the existence of any Jewish state, which started way before Israel's "settlement" policy.

      Obama is pushing Israel under the bus, which he will finish doing if re-elected.

    • Sound Doc

      Before the PROPHESY of 1948 was fulfilled, the land was desolate and had a few Baudouin tents, the land was NOT called Palestine, and there was NEVER any historical PALESTINE. The JEWS were brought back to their GOD given land by miracle and since then Israel has prospered, flourished and is blooming like a flower in the desert by hard work and wisdom.
      With all the monies that the many Arab block nations have spent in destroying what Israel has built, they could have furnished the Palestinians with a land somewhere with schools, hospitals, gardens, and a whole new nation, but that is not what Arabs are about. They want to destroy, plunder and steal what others have built. Have you ever seen any producing Arab nations, with many factories, or many productions that OTHERS did not build for them? 1948? [Before that, "historians, demographers, and travelers described the Arab population as 'decreasing,' and the land as 'thinly populated,' 'unoccupied,' 'uninhabited,' and 'almost abandoned.'" (Dershowitz, 2003)] unquote..
      Unfortunately, the Arabs could not stand to have a Jewish state in any part of the Middle East. Their ONLY GOAL IS TO SLAUGHTER Jews, burn their homes and rid the world of the Jews. They do not really care about having a nation, but are hell bent only on destroying the JEWS. It is A Satanic plot from the beginning.
      IT WILL never happen because GOD is with the Israel.
      Jer 31:35 ¶ Thus says the LORD, Who gives the sun for a light by day, The ordinances of the moon and the stars for a light by night, Who disturbs the sea, And its waves roar (The LORD of hosts is His name):
      36 "If those ordinances depart From before Me, says the LORD, Then the seed of Israel shall also cease From being a nation before Me forever."

    • old white guy

      nothing illegal about it. you fight a war and lose you also lose territory.

    • WildJew

      What's the difference between Jewish settlements in Israel and (the largely) 18th -19th century white European settlements in North America, Texas, etc., except that the Jews returned to their historic homeland?

      • Flipside

        Or German Lebensraum. You’re right. It’s fully rationalizable as an expansionist, imperialist enterprise.

        • john

          …expansionist imperialist …yeah just tell the POLES when your pal Stalin conquered Poland and then made Germany replace the territory stolen by having their country shrink. Oh better yet, territories that muslims CONQUERED and never returned, like the the Old Jerusalem Temple where now a dome sits on it.

          • Flipside

            Don’t you mean Roosevelt’s pal Stalin? I live in the 21st century and have nothing to do with the invasion of Poland. Lunatic.

    • dredtost

      Try this, put yourself in the position of being neighbor of Mexico now who act like Palestine and having the president of France tell you to give back the entire southwestern region of the United States. But alsohave Mexico attacking you everyday. I forgot, it’s already starting to happen! You should study the history of the middle east and what happened before, during, and after WWII. But don’t forget that millions of your culture and faith being slaughtered.
      Get your head out of your ass!

    • Ronald W. Carnine

      Mr.Crackerjack, the state of Israel has a right to exist. She also has the right to secure borders. As long as the "Palestinians" refuse to recognize Israel's rights it does not have the right to a state. If you remember your history (the real history) Israel was attacked by a combined force of Arab members. The Arab dwellers fled from the land as Israel was advancing (not to mention the land that was purchased) . Israel defeated her foes and her right to take the land from Muslim forces(the aggressor) means the land of "Palestine" was hers. The so called initiative to give the Arabs the land that is rightly Israel's by right of conquest in a defensive war argues against what is going on in the UN. If the UN cannot abide by her own rules it is a strong argument against the existence of the UN. Time to pull the plug and stop funding the UN with American dollars and to send it packing. Your argument for the Palestinians does not fit the facts of history and is full of logical and factual errors. Get off Israel's back.

    • TrueRegardlessColor

      Its very interesting,the things that you say,and your "education"of the proven historical facts,is indeed truly lacking. As far as our "so called" President is concerned,anyone can research him,and the denial of the "Discovery system" to be used in court,to prove he is illegitimate,to hold office! His "Holy Book",read for yourself,what he and his people are commanded to do to Israel,and all non-muslims,then come back with your post!!!

  • Fred Dawes

    It appears that Israel wants to be murdered as a nation state the UN Wants to help and only a fool can't see that fact, any settlement means that it will start the third world war, and it is way to Late in fact the start of the third world war has started.
    and just look at the sucide pack that china and russia have taken against the USA Which can kill 6 billion people, this is how wars start with settlements

  • Amused

    Lets stick to the truth fellas , you know , minus your spin . Obama has already stated that he will veto any such move by the UN or the Palestinians .

    • Joseph Klein

      The truth is that a veto in the Security Council, which Obama has already said the U.S. will exercise (obviously with the 2012 election in mind), can only stop the Palestinians' bid for full UN membership at this time. It cannot stop the General Assembly from voting an upgrade of the Palestinians' status to an observer state which has various consequences described in the article. Obama's hostility towards Israel from the very beginning of his administration has helped embolden the Palestinians to go to the UN in the first place, as evidenced by their quotes in the article.

      • guest

        THe US controls the UN. The UN should be disbanded, as an incredibly corrupt orginization. Votes are for sale, and arab oil money trumphs all

        • Raymond in DC

          Given the extent to which the UN operates in ways *contrary* to US objectives and values, in what way exactly does the US control the UN?

          In fact, the UN is *dependent* on the US for two things: its budget, and its legitimacy. If the US pulled its funding or pulled out of the UN, that organization would collapse.

    • johnnywoods

      al-Oboma is a congenital liar so it does not matter what he says.

    • mlcblog

      plus it costs a LOT of our taxpayer money and for what? strife is what I see, not peace.

  • Amused

    Every preceeding American Administration , has attempted to require Israel to give up something , in order to get an agreement. And that has ranged through threats by the Nixon Admin , Both Bush' ,Clinton , Carter and Reagan Admins .
    Bush Jr. campaigned on the promise to move the American Embassy to Jerusalem …has anyone seen that happen ? The minimum requirements under any and all US brokered agreements were either ignored , never adhered to or violated by the Palestinians .And through them all , at the end of the day the Israelis were never forced to do ANYTHING they hadn't first agreed upon to do themselves .Nor will they in his present Obama Admin .
    BTW , NO present or previous American Admin. has correctly addressed the obvious and TRUE intent of the Palestinians to drive the Jews into the sea .

  • Amused

    In FACT , the ONLY American President who took a favorable position on Israel , and ACTED on it ,was Harry Truman , against the advice of his own Cabinet , US Intelligence ,and Americas most important and most powerfulol allies . He recognized the State of Israel .
    And his decision was FREE of any political expedience , trophy hunting or pandering to a political base . For Truman , it was THE RIGHT THING TO DO , regardless of the consequences .

    • WildJew

      I'm not disagreeing with you, it was a bold move but wasn't Truman approaching a critical election? I think I read, Truman was known for crude, anti-Semitic jokes. Still, you are right, he went against the advice of the State Department and his own Secretary of State.

      • Mike Elmore

        One of Trumans best friends was Eddie Jacobson and if it wasn't for Jacoboson asking Truman to meet with Chaim Weizman in secret there would never of been a Jewish state. Thank God he came along at the right time in history, a man who wasn't afraid to "do the right thing."

        • mlcblog

          Yes, I am always fascinated with the right person or few people at the certain right place to make a crucial difference.

          • Amused

            All accounts of what went on with Truman's decision , clearly indicate that no matter what he thought or joked about ……his final decision was based on what he felt was the right thing to do .Elections had NOTHING to do with it , jews were a very small minority at that time , and their vote inconsequential .
            Along the lines of what mlcblog and Mike Elmore said , Weizman stated that G_D placed him[ Truman } in his mothers womb for just this moment . A bit melodramatic , but nonetheless food for thought .

  • Gamem

    The Palestinians already have a state in fact they have more than one. See the Four State Solution

  • Flipside

    You can read more shrill screeds by Joe Klein at the YPSL/AEI Hasbara Canada Free Press where you can learn things like “Obama is just a Manchurian Candidate for the Islamic world takeover.” Just in case you didn’t think these allegedly America-loving Zionist authors weren’t in Canada shrieking their fool heads off like bargain basement Ezra Pounds.

    • john

      well no different than your friends at CAIR that cry there is this huge wave of islamophobia and attacks on muslims since 9/11

      • Flipside

        Wrong again. I don’t have any friends at CAIR. The first time I heard about CAIR was when some red diaper Jew started screaming about it.

        • Amused

          Flipside ,re: your first statement …..there are some jews who are in fact sycophants to the teabaggers , as for them , the real issue is not Israel , but Obama . And if you hadn't heard about CAIR , until that time described by you in that " sneering comment ", then all you are doing is expressing your ignorance , which disqualifies you from any INTELLIGENT discussion on the subject . CAIR's been on the radar screen for some time , pre-dating Obama's Admin.

  • tkellybal

    F___ the UN.
    The US, Canada, Australia, Israel, UK, and a few other freedom loving nations should drop out of the UN and leave it to those anti-semetic third world dictators. Kick them out of the UN building and turn it into condos.
    The UN is useless.

    • johnnywoods

      Relocate the U.N. to Uganda. See how they like it there.

  • Dispozadaburka

    New World Order, needs to take over Jerusalem, before December 21, 2012.
    Islam is their army.
    They can't rule the world without taking control of Israel.
    Obama will be the New World Leader.

  • Rev. Roy Trepanier

    What a GIANT Ponzi scheme. The world has poured billions $$$ into Palestine, a non-existant, never was a nation, dreamed up con-job. Three things are basic to a "nation"…1-Currency-2-Language-3-History………SHOW ME THE MONEY-Show me Palestinian money from the 1900's…how about the 1800's…or the 1700's..0r the 1600's..or EVER !! SPEAK to me in Palestinian !! C'mon. I dare you to show me a Palestinian language from any point in recent or ancient history. Show me a HISTORY of Palestine. The only acceptable, documented and proven history of the "area" known as Palestine is a Jewish possesion for the past 3,000 years. My goodness, prior to 1948, the Jewish newspaper was called "the Palestinian Post" and only Jews were referred to as "Palestians" , and mainly by the Arabs (who wanted nothing to do with the name Palestinian).
    Do your homework, people. No wonder that "God laughs at the puny plans of men" and calls them "fools". Psalm 2:2
    Sides are being picked….Eternal Destiny is the prize…Israel is the "burdensome stone" ….choose carefully !!!!
    Rev. Roy…<><

  • mrbean

    The Palestinians are nothing more than proxy terrorists to the Arab Muslim states whom they will never allow to be citizens of their states nor to ever have a state of their own. It is all posturing. It is also a matter of record that Palestinians strap munitions on their own women and children and send them out on homicide-suicide missions to murder other innocent women and children in markets, restuarants, on school buses, and in their homes. The Palestinians in their own words and by their actions are committed to the genocide of the Jewish people therefore, have foreited their rights to even exist at all let alone having a UN and US sanctioned terrorist state of their own.

  • Jim

    But there already exists a Palestinian state ;it is called Jordan . The west bank belonged to Jordan. Jordan attacked Israel . Israel counter attacked ,beat Jordan which pulled out of the west bank. Eventually Jordan quit claim on the west bank. The rest of the intended Palestinian state i.e Jordan still exists and is chock full of Palestinians.

    By the way was the movement of Israel settlers into the west bank done only by force or was the Palestinian paid for his house and or land with out duress ? If a house or land was taken by force was it because that property was a launching point for an attack on Israel or the legitimate settlers. Did Israel settlers build on unclaimed land? If so they did not steal the land.

    As the west bank was abandoned by Jordan to whom did Jordan will it.? Nobody,by default it goes to Israel as they had to pay for it by a defending war against a Jordanian attack.

    The UN has no right to be involved in this question.

  • passing by

    Stop stealing land! This is what has caused much resistance which is violent…from both sides! Most of the above comments point to racism and hate toward the Arab population. The way the Israeli government treats ordinary Palestinians is abhorant! Respect thy neighbour, and your neighbour will respect you. And again. STOP STEALING LAND! The Palestinians deserve a state. Israel went thru the un, and Palestine will do the same.

    • Joseph Klein

      The Palestinians could have had their own state 63 years ago. Instead they and their neighboring Arab countries decided to attack Israel and try to drive the Jews into the sea. It didn't work. For twenty additional years, there were no Jewish settlements in the West Bank or Gaza – which were controlled by Jordan and Egypt respectively. Still no independent Palestinian state. Instead, Israel was attacked again in 1967 and the PLO launched its terrorist campaign. The Palestinians have had additional chances for an indepndent state since. Everytime they have followed their leaders' all-or-nothing failed rejectionist policies.

      By the way, the "Palestinians" were originally migrants from Egypt and other countries not long before Jews began arriving from Europe. It is racist to say that the Arab emigrees were entitled to own all the land they migrate to but Jews, many of whom originally bought their land from the Turks, are not.

    • Jayson Rex

      The Arabs that like to call themselves "Palestinians" should be moved to Saudi Arabia forthwith, all of them, and from that day on this is where Palestine, the new democratic state, will be located. No more stories, no more Chrtistian charities, no more flotillas, no more bullsk.t. Enough is enough. And those that love cute terrorists so very much, let them take a couple home to shelter and feed.

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  • Moishe Pupick

    Th., 09/15/11 common era

    Allegedly illegal settlements are not the problem but only a lame excuse for G-d haters and Jew haters who want to finish the cursed Hitler's work. After all, there were no Jewish settlements in Judea and Samaria when Torquemada and Doktor Mengele were "doing their thing." A Jewish State of ANY size threatens competing theologies. The U.N. knows damn well that the proposed "2-State Solution" would quickly become a "2-State Final Solution 2." Rosh Hoshanah 5,772 will start at sundown on Wednesday, September 28th. It's just plain dumb to try to mess with G-d and his Chosen People, the Jews. Stay tuned. . . .

    • Jean-Claude

      Moishe, Have you HONESTLY asked yourself whether or not you're t God chosen people? really??? If you're really God chosen people I'd like start contemplating atheism
      immediately/. God is Merciful. Are you? God is compassionate. Are you? God is fair. Are you? … JC.

  • mah29001

    Palestine was behind 9/11, then purposely denied it to blame the Jews for it.

  • WilliamJamesWard

    Palestinian murdering terrorist low life scum soon to become a State of Palestinian
    murdering terrorist low life scum, how novel can it get, the change will do them good.
    In the future this new Snake……..State can be attacked for acts of war………William

    • mlcblog

      I pray God himself aborts the vote.

  • Brujo Blanco

    Palestinians are looking forward to a Jewless state. The problem with this is that the Palestians belief that all of Israel is Palestine. In other words Rey aspire to have a Jewless mideast. When the Mexican cartels start lobbing anti personnel missiles into he USA we should all understand the position that Israel has been in.

  • Anamah

    President Obama, The UN Sec.Gen BanKiMoon, do you believe you can go unpunished? You seems to think you can attack the tiny little Israel and ignore her rights. Palestinian rights yes… but first, must accept in the facts Israel's rights to live in peace and MUST REJECT AND CONDEMN IN THE FACTS TERRORISM, MUST TEACH THEIR CHILDREN TOLERANCE, and RESPECT TO JEWISH PEOPLE AND OTHER NON MUSLIMS. MUST REJECT LYING.
    Well, I believe all the conspirators other representatives of the civilized world and international organizations will be judged and all of you are going to explain why your hate to the only Jewish State, how you are going to find an explanation but any of you will find. Because you wont find any reason or justification in the rational world. If you hurt Israel rights you will be judge!!! Please read history… and also before say a word, please see the map. In the huge surface of Islamic and Arab countries see what little tiny Israel is. You will know it has the right to live in peace in that land from the Mediterranean Sea to the West side of the Jordan River. You know from the Nations League Palestine land is in Jordan. If you reject the true your complicity will not go unpunished. Public opinion and Justice will judge the coward attack and the world will ask your name.

    • wbrenner

      He's a total concocted fraud with lots of enablers and abettors.

  • Alan D.

    Obama was never a law professor. He was a visiting lecturer.
    Law professor is just part of his fraudulent biography.

  • Asher

    This will put the final nail in the coffin of the Obama administration and their true feelings towards Israel, and Gentiles!

  • StephenD

    The picture heading this article says it all. Juxtaposed against the picture of Obama poking Prime Minister Netanyahu in the chest. He operates exactly as a good anti-Israel operative should. Woe to America if this man gets re-elected.

  • Stateman

    Imagine in the current time if France would want to create its own state in Michigan and separate it from the U.S. French are a minority in Michigan so democratic vote on the separation would not work because they would be outvoted by the rest of the Americans living in Michigan. So imagine if they had a historic opportunity when the U.S. is at its weakest and militarily occupy a part of Michigan and impose a regime where only French can vote and all the others who lived there cannot. Furthermore, the occupiers rename the occupied part of Michigan as the “French State” where not only that Americans are not welcome, but they are systematically expelled over time creating huge refugee camps in nearby states of Indiana and Ohio. Imagine then that at that point in history the artificial organization called the United Nations is full of French supporters and somehow that makes the occupation “legal” and Americans who fight for their homes in the occupied part of Michigan are labeled as terrorists. The occupation is a part of a careful log-term plan (i.e. Zionism) of acquiring land by French, so literally days after the occupation is implemented (what a coordinated plan!) the occupiers import millions of other French from all over the world to increase their population in Michigan from around 100,000 to over 5 Million in a short period. Then Americans resist and fight to regain the occupied part of Michigan, but Russia steps in, sends weapons, cash, and everything else the occupiers need to sustain the occupation.

    What do you think all of us Americans would feel? We would hate French first, and then all of their supporters (Russia in this analogy) that make the occupation of our land possible. Still questioning yourself why people in the Middle East and other parts of the world do not like us? Because Zionist controlled our government, not the people, supported the very exact scenario as described above against our will and with our tax money making us accomplices in this unspeakable crime. The scenario that would outrage all of us Americans and make us fight against it if it happened in Michigan or anywhere else in the U.S.

    This comment is not intended to make derogatory remarks about France and Russia. It is merely used as an example of how Americans would be outraged and fight back in the same situation as the forced establishment of the Zionist regime and its occupation of Palestine.

    Urge our state representatives and senators to immediately stop any remaining support for the Zionist regime. Much of the support already stopped because of the increasing pressure on this issue, but we Americans need to completely distance ourselves from this oppressive regime and start actively opposing it

  • Dexter renz

    You can definitely copy, repost, or email mine to anyone including lobbying senators, state representatives and any other public officials who shape our country’s foreign policies.

    The main Zionist claim is that they have a supreme right to some of Palestinian territory because they lived there thousands of years ago. Let’s examine the core and real nature of this claim.

    Firstly, this claim is mistaken and selfish in its core concept because Zionists fail to recognize that history is a continuum and that there were other people living in majority in Palestine before the Jews and also after the Jews. Zionists simply cut history at a convenient point for them and claim ancestral ties to the land as of that convenient point.

    Secondly, whatever the claim, it is beyond absurd to try to shape modern world based on thousands of years old maps. Imagine if the rest of the world would be reshaped by who was on the land thousands of years ago. It would cause horrific wars, countless refugees, and unimaginable human suffering, exactly what is happening in Palestine.

    Thirdly and most disturbing, Zionist goal was to establish a Jewish state wherever possible. Palestine may have been a preference, but Palestine was not the only location that Zionists planned as their state in modern times. Another location was Argentina where Jews have been migrating for hundreds of years for the purpose of establishing a state. Also, locations in Europe were on the list and that’s why the Catholic Church was killing/expelling Jews since Roman times (read the history of the Holly Inquisition). Whatever the location, Zionist plan was to simply occupy the people living on the land even if that would mean imposing a regime worst than Nazi Germany’s from which they escaped. And Zionists would just use a different ideological coloring than the one used in Palestine in the attempt to rationalize the occupation.

    In conclusion, the main claim on which the Zionist regime is built in Palestine is erroneous, selfish, and a lie. I am categorically against generalizing, and recognize that many Jews are against the crimes the Zionist regime is committing and that many Jews are leading the global resistance to it. They should be proud

  • Rob Winchester

    If it is ever reached, the current and any other artificial “peace agreement” will be illegitimate before it is ever signed because (1) all people living in Palestine regardless of religion, race, origin, etc. (hereinafter “All People of Palestine”) were never given a choice on how they want their land to be governed, and (2) all contracts signed under duress are null and void.

    The biggest problem in Palestine is that the Zionist regime never offered a choice to All People of Palestine on how they want to govern their land because the Zionist regime cannot exist as a democratic entity. If there was ever any democratic process in Palestine, Zionists would have been outvoted and the Zionist regime would have never existed. That is why the Zionist regime is the occupier because it does not offer choice (i.e. democracy), but instead imposes its regime (i.e. occupies). Imagine if Russians would simply occupy a town in the U.S. where they are in significant numbers and attempt to create a Russian state there without giving the rest of the Americans living there a choice. Imagine then if they would try to institute a “peace agreement” that would attempt to legitimize their occupation. The “peace agreement” would logically and legally be illegitimate because the Americans were not given a choice.

    Under all countries’ laws, any contract is null and void if it is signed under duress. The current Palestine “peace agreement” process reminds me of The Godfather movie where the mafia boss (i.e. the Zionist regime) made a guy “an offer he could not refuse” by placing a gun (i.e. Zionist conventional and nuclear arsenal) to his head and making him sign the contract. Like the mafia boss’ offer, any “peace agreement” other than the choice for All People of Palestine is a crime, and the contract is legally null and void.

    The bottom line is that All People of Palestine never wanted to divide their land into artificial two states the way the occupation and this “peace agreement” attempt to divide it. From the beginning of the Zionist regime to its unavoidable end, All People of Palestine and the region never wanted the Zionist regime and they do not want it even more after all the atrocities the Zionist regime committed. I just cannot believe how the Zionist regime can be so ignorant to think that this or any other “peace agreement” that does not allow people to choose how they want to be governed will last and ensure its people’s survival. The Zionist regime fails to realize that no matter if it succeeds in muscling this “peace agreement” by unspeakable historic coercion tens of millions of moral people around the world will oppose it until it is corrected, and until justice and free choice prevail. Also, ever increasing number of Jewish people are realizing that Zionism is becoming a destructive force for them and are leading the global resistance to it

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  • Amused

    what ???