Would Hillary Have Governed Differently?


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There’s probably some stimulus money to get it jump-started. Some quibble that ObamaCare lacks a “public option,” a defect so minor that even a collectivist/statist like Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, voted for it. Did Hillary disagree with any of Obama’s left-wing, government-spending, money-printing, polar-bear-saving, climate-change-combating, increased-regulation policies/programs/agendas — which have given us over 9 percent unemployment and tortoise-like growth?

Hillary would have governed differently, all right, but not in a way that pleases the left. After realizing that not one Republican vote supported ObamaCare — and the public was against it — Hillary, as she did with HillaryCare in the mid-’90s, would have pulled back and “reformed” heath care in small, less controversial steps. This would have made the left even angrier.

As for “stimulus,” when GOP Senate votes seemed unlikely, Hillary — as her husband did — would have dropped in some catnip for the Republicans, gotten a handful to sign on, and proclaimed it “bipartisan.” The H2L2 would not have liked that.

As for Libya, reports say that Obama at first rejected military involvement in Libya. Hillary pushed for it, arguing that it needed no congressional approval. How’s that for a lefty’s commander in chief?

Obama still sits on an 83 percent job approval rating among liberal Democrats. The rest won’t be satisfied until Congress approves an annual Che Guevara federal holiday.

H2L2s think Hillary would have stood down the tea party/GOP and allowed the supposed default. She would have stood her ground and hoped that people would blame the GOP and she’d cruise to re-election. Really? What in Hillary’s political career makes the H2L2 think she would have manned up and said, “Damn you tea partyers, bring on default!” Nothing.

A 1990s “government shutdown” that furloughed “nonessential personnel” is one thing. A default, however, is a different deal altogether. With unknowable financial and political consequences, including the possibility that folks’ interest rates and payments go up, a default is uncharted territory, and there is no reason to believe Hillary would have been any more likely to go down that road than Obama.

And how would the black monolithic Democratic voters feel about a Hillary primary challenge to the real first black president?

Here’s the question in the brain of the H2L2s: “Why aren’t all the things I learned in freshman sociology working?” To which, of course, their brains respond: “It can’t be the car. Must be the driver.

“Get me Hillary!”

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  • EJS

    Obama would have accomplished a lot if he had struck while the iron was hot. He had lots of momentum right after his election, everyone, even Republicans, expected the second coming of FDR and people were primed for a populist economic policy. Reagan was extremely successful in shoving his right-wing agenda down our throats because he hit the ground running and simply steamrolled his opposition. Obama could have done the same. Instead, he dilly-dallied, trying to play nice with the fanatical, right-wing Republicans, thereby wasting time, giving the opposition a chance to regroup and squandering his opportunity. I don't think Hillary would have made the mistake of ascribing one whit of good faith to a Republican Party which has none. This would have made for a much more successful Presidency and would have been much better for our economy and our country. Incidentally, I'm not at all in love with the President. He has governed as a right-of-center, status quo corporatist and has done very little differently than a George W. Bush would have done. He has been extremely timid and unwilling to do much which would justify the fat cats in criticizing him. Unlike FDR, he welcomes the campaign contributions of the forces of organized money, not their hatred.

    • TexExpatriate

      Evidently, from your remarks, you are a card-carrying Marxist or Leninist, the same as Obama. Only a thorough-going Leninist, orStalinist, would believe that Obama has governed as a "right-of-center" corporationist, when in fact he has effectively nationalized two auto companies, stunted all domestic growth through regulation, and packed the White House and its agencies with Marxists.

      You are right about one thing. Obama is extremely timid, and that's because he is a sissy, the same as most Marxists.

    • Jim_C

      Your view of how Obama has governed (essentially, "liberal republican") is spot on, and I am amazed that he did not use his gifts to thump the bully pulpit harder in order to do the things he knows could get the country back on track, sooner.

      But i completely disagree about Hillary being more effective, and here's why: Republicans were game-planning against Hillary for years. They had everything in place to discredit her and to impede her should she be elected. What they didn't count on is that many liberals like myself don't really like Hillary, are sick of Bill, and find her entitled attitude incredibly off-putting. So they were knocked on their heels, freaking out those first few months. If you think they've stymied Obama, imagine what they had in store for Hillary.

      So they game planned for Rothlisberger but got Michael Vick. They'd been watching Clinton game tape for years–they knew all those looks, but got something they never expected. That's a position you want to be in, on offense. But Obama failed to take advantage. argh!

  • mrbean

    Part 1: Hillary Rodham Clinton has never done anything significant in her entire life and her inflated opinion of herself is downright laughable. If she had not chased and married Bill Clinton and hung on his coat tails she would never be a "carpetbagger" New York Senator from Arkansas, and for damn sure she would never have been an also ran failed contender for the Democrat Party 2008 Presidential candidate nomination. Hillary Rodham Clinton has never gotten one single job on her own anywhere in her life. And when she got them she botched every single one of them. But now this inept failure is the Secretary of State and again failing miserably.

  • mrbean

    Part 2: Professor Tommy "The Commie" Emerson, her mentor at Yale, got Hillary Rodham first job assigned to the CPUSA financed defense lawyer Charles Garry in the Black Panthers Bobby Seale murder trial. The defense was funded by the Communist Party USA. Professor Tommy "The Commie" Emerson also got her her law internship as the personal law clerk to Robert Truehaft, the head of the CA CPUSA and the Chief Counsel for the entire Communist Party USA. She not only worked for him as his law clerk for a year, but lived with Trueafts, who were both carding carrying CPUSA members.

  • mrbean

    Part 3: Edward Kennedy's lawyer, Burke Marshal, who was a friend and colleague of Robert Truehaft along with her Yale mentor Professor Emerson got her the job on the Watergate committee staff. She was outrightly fired by general counsel and chief of staff of the Watergate House Judiciary Committee, Jerry Zeifman, for lying, outrageous behavior (throwing tantrum tirades), unethical conduct, and serious Constitutional procedural violations. Mr. Zeifman, general counsel and chief of staff for the Watergate Committee, said he fired her, "Because she was a liar," in an interview. “She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality. Had she she submitted briefs like she wrote to a court she would have been disbarred."

  • mrbean

    Part 4: When she applied for officer candidacy for the Department of the Navy JAG program after she graduated from Yale she was rejected by the Department of the Navy for as an "unfit as an officer candidate" because of her fellow traveler activities with CPUSA members and the radical SDS at Yale. Her fabricated story about her eyesight being the reason for rejection is sheer nonsense.

  • mrbean

    Part 5: Hillary Rodham failed her Washington DC Bar Exam at least once, so she got a job at the University of Arkansas not on her own, but through Bill Clinton who was already an instructor on the faculty at University of Arkansas. She apparently wrote her Arkansas Bar Exam on site at the University of Arkansas which was under some very suspicious conditions for monitoring and passed it – you may suspect that this was not completely on the up-and-up!

  • mrbean

    Part 6: She only got her position at the Rose Law Firm as a political favor to Bill Clinton when he became Attorney General of Arkansas. And she was only made a partner in the Rose Law Firm as another political favor to Bill Clinton when he became the Governer of Arkansas. Her job there was funneling misappropriated monies through Edward Hubble for political purposes. She also deliberately had all the records of her activities at the Rose Law Firm burned when she was under investigation for Whitewater. This has been well documented.

  • mrbean

    Part 7: Her political appointments to corporation board positions at Tysons Food, Wal Mart, and other organizations where she really did nothing but collect monies were always for political favors owed her husband, both when he was Governer, President, and later as an ex-President. She doesn't even write her own books – and her editing according to her ghost writers is light skimming at best. She has ghost writers like Barbara Feinman, who wrote “It takes A Village” and she stiffs them by not paying them in full even when she gets multi-million dollar advances

  • mrbean

    Part 8: Her integrity is zero, as she lies constantly, like being born in 1947 and claiming she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary who climbed Everest in 1953 who was not knighted until 1955; and the Bosnia whopper lie that she was under sniper fire where a video shows otherwise , and the lie about the lady who died without health insurance etc.,.. stealing Whitehouse artifacts and getting caught, receiving illegal monies from the Chinese Red Army agent Johnny Cheung at the Whitehouse, $100,000 Cattle Futures, Whitewater, Travelgate, 900 FBI files illegally held by her staff at the Whitehouse, obstruction of justice in the Vince Foster suicide investigation, and perjury before a Federal Grand Jury on Whitewater and her Rose Law Firm activities, and, on, and on.

  • mrbean

    Part 9: Oh yes, the debacle she ran for nationalizing healthcare in Bill Clinton's first term was not only a disaster, had she not been the first lady she would be in a federal penitentiary for the deliberate misappropriation of a massive amount of government funds she could not account for and has never been accounted for.

  • mrbean

    Part 10: Apparently, she is also into the occult. Hillary Rodham Clinton used New Age psychic Jean Houston, co-director of the Foundation for Mind Research, held séances at the Whitehouse to “channel” with the spirit of Eleanor Roosevelt. In her own words, Mrs. Clinton states she had talks with Eleanor Roosevelt, Mohandas Gandhi, and Jesus Christ according to Carl Bernstein in his book.

  • Jim_C

    Sounds like mrbean has a stalker-level crush on Hillary!

    • GypsyTyger

      Sounds to me like mrbean has done his research.

    • Wideband

      Do you mean any of what mrbean wrote is not public record? Readily available to anybody who cares to look it up? Would you prefer manufactured facts and talking points like those from EJS?

  • Asher

    My answer is no, Hillary is another Radial Leftist who coddles Islam, and who is slick like her husband. Same Policies in common with Obama!

  • TexExpatriate

    I think Larry is too kind to Hillary. There's not a whit's difference between her and Obama, except that she has bigger cojones and doesn't wear sissy jeans. A Saul Alinksy acolyte like Obama, Hillary would have done about the same amount of damage to America in about the same way that Obama has done.