Religious Left Dreams of a De-Nuked America

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At least Wigg-Stevenson cites Just War teaching.  Most of the Religious Left prefers to ignore it altogether in its dreamy advocacy of an irrelevant pacifism.  If the Air Force training did actually rely exclusively on the Germans-and-Japanese-would-have-done-it-first-argument, it should have included broader arguments.  No American President would have condemned hundreds of thousands of U.S. military personnel to avoidable death while having a weapon that would decisively end the war. As to the wider moral implications, even had the U.S. unilaterally ended hostilities and left the Japanese militarists in power, millions more, mostly civilians, would have died, as Japan’s imperialist war ruthlessly continued throughout Asia.  Millions of Chinese, Indochinese, Thai, Koreans, and Burmese, among many others, including Japanese, are alive today because the U.S. nuclear strikes spared their parents and grandparents needless deaths 66 years ago.

A recent National Council of Churches (NCC) news release cited the 160,000 initial deaths from the atomic blasts at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.  Horrible enough.  But World War II killed 50 million.  No Religious Left news releases have asked how those lives might have been spared in what Winston Churchill deemed an avoidable war, if only the democracies had acted with resolve sooner.  The last century was stained not only by tens of millions of corpses from two world wars, but also the over 100 million murdered victims of totalitarian regimes.  Their murderous designs for global domination were defeated primarily by American power.

How would today’s world look with a denuclearized America?  Would it be safer?  Would it be freer and more prosperous?  Would the potential aggressors and mass murders of tomorrow feel more or less deterred?   Or would a world without American military dominance resemble the early 20th century, when numerous regimes, many of them genocidal, raced for military advantage, precipitating the modern world’s worst calamities?

Religious Left dreamers dare not address such pressing questions, preferring the serenity of their own abstract illusions.  Fortunately, they are mostly cloistered in un-influential church bureaucracies and academia.  More serious thinkers and people of faith across the ideological spectrum who actually guide U.S. policies know that a world of today without U.S. nukes likely would be a disaster.

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  • Infidel 4 Ever

    I dream of an America free of Socialist/Leftist/Progressive/FAKE "anti-war" activists.

    Ever see an "Anti-War" march that denounced al qada? No? Wonder why?

  • Gene W.

    What ever is not true is a lie! Since God authored the Bible [single page absolute proof anything that is contrary to the bible is the sly work of Satan and sin.
     From the time of God established Israel and America through His provisions and protection, Satan has been trying to dismantle them. Satan’s plan is temporarily working … he put blindness and spins to educators and judiciaries to reinterpret ‘separation of church and state’… he debunks the Bible … removes the ‘10 commandments’ and ‘In God We Trust’ … He destroys families via cohabitation [since marriage is a covenant with God] and sodomy … SOL requires children (by eight grade) to know where the nearest abortion clinics are and that they can go there without parents knowledge.

    • tagalog

      You're mistaken; whatever is not true is false. A false thing is not necessarily a lie. It may be an error.

  • Gene W.

    Satan authored an anti-Bible [Koran] to create a unified force that is opposed to everything that God loves and Jesus died for. Satan introduced political correctness to embrace people who hate and violate the very nature of God. Satan’s long term planning established the Federal Reserve Bank [no legislator is privy to how much and to whom money is secretively distributed], the One World Governance [Bilderberg’s, Council of Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission] and the UN.
    Has this ‘Religious Left ever exposed or denounce any of the above?

  • Flipside

    No red blooded American accepts the Christian Zionism that Mark Tooley is peddling. It doesn’t even have any basis in Christianity or the Bible. It’s more akin to what those Klansmen racists believe in Elohim City. If you were looking for “love thy neighbor,” and “I am the way and the truth and the light,” and somebody gave you this counterfeiter, this Pat Robertson of a person, selling nuclear death and Israeli theme parks, you would feel cheated. Sadly, for the one simple reason that this wholly unsavory person supports Israel, his religious bigotry and war profiteering is passed off as real social commentary. Jews should stay out of this business of remanufacturing other peoples religions. Again, you are just making more Anders Breiviks. Toomey is exactly the kind of guy who fuels a Christian Zionist terrorist like that.

  • tagalog

    How is that a particular weapon, the nuclear bomb, is evil? I mean, it produces radiation and is extraordinarily destructive in its explosive effect, I agree, but is that evil?

    If so, why isn't the artillery shell evil? It produces a large explosion that causes great damage. How about the incendiary bomb? How about flamethrowers and napalm? They're very nasty. How about 10,000-pound bombs; they cause tremendous damage. What about the V-2 rocket, or any rocket that carries a large conventional warhead? White phosphorus? Poison gas? Gas was so bad that the Geneva Conventions prohibited it. "Dum-dum" bullets? The quad-.50 machine gun? How about that rommelspargen, anti-paratroop obstacles made of telephone poles topped with antipersonnel mines and cable strung between them? Belgian gates that force landing craft to stay in one place while the artillery pieces sight down on them? Cluster bombs? What do they call those bombs that spray out flammable vapor, then ignite it a split second later? Thermobaric bombs, that's it.

    In short, what's the distinction between a weapon that isn't evil and the evil nuclear bomb? Is it radiation, is that it?

    • Stephen_Brady

      I may be one of the few people alive to get into a life and death struggle with the bayonet. It happened in Vietnam, and the fact that I'm writing this suggests that I survived the fight. He attacked me with fixed bayonet and I responded in kind. The killing of another human with a bayonetted rifle was truly a horrible thing, and I still dream of it, on bad nights.

      Was the bayonet evil? It took several stabbings to kill him, and his screams still sound in my mind. But I am alive, and so are my children and grandchildren.

      Good question, tagalong. What makes the nuke inherently evil?

      • tagalog

        God bless your victory and ease your mind. That incident sounds like a nightmare version of basic training. Thrust, parry, Spirit of the Bayonet, vertical/horizontal butt stroke, last man standing in the pit, etc. I'm glad to see you got past that horrifying moment.

  • Edisa

    Nuclear weapons are a REALITY. Therefore, we must look at political and physical reality when we make decisions about them. We cannot wish them out of existence, and treaties without verification and means of enforcement are just a form of wishful thinking. Unilateral disarmament is CRAZY.

    We don't have the luxury of pacifism's answers, because the world is truly a dangerous place. Balance of powers and self defense provide reasonable answers. Jesus' instructions to turn the other cheek and to love enemies were not meant for national policy, but for personal decisions. National policy has responsibility for protection of the citizens above and beyond attitudes toward enemies. Just war theory is important. It is not the absolute truth, but it is very helpful for thinking about issues.

    Balance of powers involves maintaining nuclear technology to counter the technologies developing in the hostile world. Balance of powers includes finding means to prevent aggressive nations from developing those weapons, because they are likely to use them if they calculate the benefits higher than the risks. Balance of powers includes understanding how others actually think about such issues, rather than merely projecting our thinking over theirs. Balance of powers requires maintaining a healthy economy so that national defense is affordable.

    The data are already in and analyzed about which kind of economy remains healthy over the long term. Free markets, with open opportunity for citizens, win consistently over socialistic answers. Free market economies go through dips, but they have an overall trajectory much better than the dampened stagnation socialism produces. Here again, supply and demand are REALITY, and wishful thinking won't make an economy work, no matter how good the socialist answers sound.

    Self defense includes nuclear shield technology. Nuclear shield has the potential to take away the benefits part of the equation for aggressor nations. Its importance cannot be overstated. It is worth the cost.

    However, God is REALITY, too. Therefore we must seek Him–and His integrity in our lives and decisions–so that we can seek His protection over and above the decisions politicians make outside our control. "God bless America!" is more than a slogan. It is rightly a prayer. I view our defense budget as a complicated function of our right standing before Him. If we seek Him, we will choose wise political leaders, who will care about the protection of the nation and the well-being of its citizens, and who will deal effectively with REALITY.

    • scum

      God and Nukes, gotta love em

  • Paul of Alexandria

    I can only point to “Thank God for the Atom Bomb” by Paul Fussell,
    article at

    It would be far more evil to sacrifice a million Americans and as many or more Japanese in a conventional invasion.

  • Paul of Alexandria

    Edisa: "Jesus' instructions to turn the other cheek and to love enemies were not meant for national policy, but for personal decisions." This is correct. The government is given responsibility for the protection of the citizens in its charge. To do so peacefully and without rancor is the best, of course, but if the enemy attacks first, the priorities are clear.

  • Ghostwriter

    There are probably many Asians and Asian-Americans who view the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as a form of justice. The reason is that the Japanese military was so vicious and cruel wherever they were during World War II is that what happened to end that war seemed justified goes that view. I'm not sure myself about it but I think that could be the prevailing view in Asia.

  • WSG

    My late father in law was in one of the divisions scheduled to assault the Jap. home islands in the summer of 1945.
    Based on what had happened earlier at Iwo, Guadacanal, Tarawa and a host other bloody battles they were told to get their affairs in order…. .
    Casualty rates of 80% were expected which means to be clear that some units would be 100 % dead or a few that did survive would be wounded.
    There is NO DOUBT in my mind that Truman's fortitude saved his life and enabled the birth of my wife .
    So to Flipside and all the other LEFTIST idiots who ignore reality as a political game at the cost of the lives of countless innocents and the men and women of the US military sacrificed by appeasement and ROE s that get them killed=>
    Lets send you back and you can be first off the assault craft in the then necessary invasion of the Jap home islands .

  • BS77

    Religious Left is an Oxymoron… Jumbo Shrimp.

  • SeaMystic


    God, give us Men and Women! A time like this demands,
    Strong minds, great hearts, true faith and ready hands;

    Men and Women whom the lust of office does not kill;
    Men and Women whom the spoils of office cannot buy;
    Men and Women who posses opinions and a will;
    Men and Women who have honour; Men and Women who will not lie;

    Men and Women who stand before a demagogue,
    And damns his treacherous flatteries without winking!
    Tall men and stately Women, sun-crowned, who live above the fog,
    In public duty, and in private thinking;

    For with the rabble, with their thumb-worn creeds,
    Their large professions and their little deeds,
    Mingle in selfish strife, lo! FREEDOM WEEPS,
    Wrong rules the land and waiting JUSTICE SLEEPS.


  • scum

    There sure are some strange theological ramblings in these posts! Wow!!