Kiloton Threat: An Interview with General William “Jerry” Boykin

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Lt. General (retired) William G. “Jerry” Boykin spent thirty-six years in the U.S. Army, many of them as an original member of Delta Force, the world’s premier Special Operations unit. His career plays out like a series of Tom Clancy thrillers: he helped capture Panamanian dictator Manuel Noriega, hunted the notorious drug lord Pablo Escobar, and has served in Vietnam, Iran, Somalia, Iraq, and Afghanistan, in addition to a stint with the CIA, and became the Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence under President George W. Bush.

Along the way, Boykin, now an ordained minister, courted controversy with comments that seemed to couch the War on Terror in religious terms. This drew fire from leftist figures such as Sidney Blumenthal, John Kerry, and Seymour Hersh, as well as from the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), the self-proclaimed advocacy group linked to the Muslim Brotherhood.

The author of the autobiographical Never Surrender: A Soldier’s Journey to the Crossroads of Faith and Freedom and the thriller Danger Close has a new novel, Kiloton Threat. Both thrillers feature Special Forces officer Blake Kershaw combating Muslim extremism.

Mark Tapson: General, your new book is about a U.S. covert operation to extract a defecting Iranian scientist, a Christian convert, out of Iran to help neutralize their nuclear weapons program. Based on your knowledge of and experience with covert actions after 9/11, how close did we come to neutralizing Iran’s nuclear program ourselves, and do you think we might still have to resort to that?

Gen. Boykin: The Iranian nuclear program is a very serious threat to global stability. A nuclear-armed Iran may very well prompt a nuclear arms race in the Mid East which only increases the threat of a deadly exchange between warring factions. The threat to Israel is real, as [Iranian President Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad is driven by a radical theology that directs him and others of the same theology to create an atmosphere of “bloodshed and chaos” in order to usher in the reign of the “Mahdi.” Otherwise known as the 12th Imam, this messiah will return and bring global peace and implement Shariah. This is not just the belief of a group of ignorant and uneducated men. Ahmadinejad and the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei are erudite men with a deep passion for what they believe and are willing to throw the world into chaos in order to bring about the return of the Mahdi.

At this point, the US efforts to stop the Iranian nuclear program have been weak. Diplomacy and sanctions have not slowed Iran’s progress. Any covert action that has been executed by the US has had little effect. Even if the “worm” in the computers was part of a US effort, it was just a minor setback. The world is at a point now that the only hope may be an Israeli strike, since it is unlikely that the US will act militarily. The problem is that the Israeli capabilities to destroy the Iranian program are very questionable. The program was built to make a strike from any source difficult. The better option is to take out the Iranian leadership, but once again, who is willing to try? Certainly the US will not do it. Israel would if they could but this would be a very difficult task for them too. Ultimately, there are no good solutions to this problem.

Tapson: You were a leader on the important “Team B” report Shariah: The Threat to America, put out last year by the Center for Security Policy. Tell us, please, about that work and your role in it.

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    It's either nuclear weapons or islam. We have to choose. Without nuclear weapons islam will never be wiped out …and by wiped out i mean WIPED OUT !!! Only AFTER islam is WIPED OUT can we even think of a nuclear weapon free world. Look around you at these monkeys … can't you see where they are taking us as a species ? islam is leading the planet to a non- stop blood bath …slowly and surely …and without nuclear weapons islam's march will never be stopped.
    Someone has to start bombing the monkeys sometime …. i have a feeling that China will be the first to bite back on islam's arse. …. then free for all….. we live in interesting times…. our generation will see the death of islam….but how it will happen will be worth watching. Intelligence has a way of waking up and crushing the moronic , however vicious and barbaric.

    • DeucePrez

      Even if you take a Hitler approach to murdering Muslims because of your Islamaphobia, do you also have plans on nuking you own country as well?

      That'll really ensure your survival.


    The thing to actually wonder is how Mecca and Medina will be pulverised. How will we do it ? And which year? That will be the exact beginning of a new era of peace.
    i have a feeling somewhere around some table some people in high and right places are looking at this solution. And i have a feeling they compromise a lot of different people from all over the globe. Intelligence is Good. Intelligence is Cool. islam is neither. Hence islam will literally dissolve. Without mecca and medina there is no islam. Period.
    After islam is Irradicated we can think about nuclear disarmamment and all things peacefull and noble. Till then we have to wait . We have to. There is no option. They want us all dead and we want to live…. got any brighter ideas?
    Cheers !!

  • Chezwick_mac

    With all due respect to Mr Boykin, who are these Muslim "moderates" that he and others in the anti-Jihad keep referring to? If they do indeed exist, they are mostly nominal,…that is, not particularly religious.

    I took pains to attend a "patriotic" Muslim demonstration in Washington DC four or five years ago. It was organized to show support for America in its war on terror. I was fascinated with the idea and attended with great expectation.

    The organizers kept postponing the beginning of the speeches, pleading with the attending media to be patient, and insisting that bus-loads of Muslims from around the country would be arriving any minute. The buses never came.

    The rally was comprised of about 25 speakers and organizers, 15 or so media, and a smattering of passers-by, most of them white and black Americans, who would stop and listen for a few minutes…and then move on to wherever they were going. There were virtually NO Muslims in the non-existent crowd.

    I'm sick to death of references to "moderate Muslims", particularly from anti-Jihadists. Organizationally, they're non-existent. Theologically, they have no leg to stand on. As I previously asserted, they may exist as individuals, but they do so outside the parameters of their faith. There is no space for moderation in the Islamic law and ethos.

    • DeucePrez

      Where were you for the past 2 years when the Muslims held Jum'mah on Capital Hill?

      The videos of both of those events are on YouTube, so you can't lie & downplay those!

  • Alexander Gofen

    I am an admirer of Gen. Boykin since the 2000s, when he strongly stood in defense of Christianity in the US and acknowledged its absolute superiority vs. Islam. However I regret that even he minces the words:

    "Many Muslims do not accept the totalitarian nature of Islam and those are the people who must be allowed to worship freely in America."

    Then in which sense are they "Moslem" if islam in essence is 100% totalitarian? And if they "worship freely in America" proselytizing islam and having higher birth rates than others, America will inevitably become islamic. Is it OK for Gen. Boykin?

    "They are the group that do not want Shariah; in many cases they came to the US to escape it."

    A moslem who does not want Sharia is an oxymoron. If one comes to the US to escape sharia, one does not consider oneself moslem at all. Such a person converts into the other faith proper to the land hosting him (or may be into atheism), but by no means keeps identifying oneself a moslem!

    If a person escapes from communism and immigrates into a free nation for this reason, such a person does not call oneself a communist, nor does he join the communist party USA indeed. In fact, he would be seriously grilled during the naturalization process if he were a Commie, and perhaps even denied entrance. And this is exactly what should be immediately implemented Re. islamic immigration.

    • jacob

      Sir :

      If somebody like General BOYKIN, for whom I have the greatest respect, states
      there are such Muslims, I will have to accept it since I'm sure he knows things
      neither you nor I know, besides the point that, as YOSHIRO SAGAMORI once
      wrote," Every practicing Muslim is a terrorist, as this is what has been
      hammered into his head from craddle to grave and it is what his "religion"
      expects from him"……

      • mukhtar

        may we ask what exactly do we muslims say in the curses? they would definitely have some kind of translation for it.. otherwise how would this general know what we say when we worship Allah… LAKUM DEENUKUM WA LIYA DEEN.. is this curse?

        • Indioviejo

          Mukhtar, If you believe that your Allah listens to any prayer coming from the followers of a known pedophile, caravan robber, murderer and slave holder such as Mohammed, then you are not a moderate, are you? The Koran, the Hadith, and the Sira are clear enough for you to make up your own mind about living in sin and evil. If you live in the west, this is your chance to be free.

          • Aussie aussie

            You uneducated bananna! the prophet mohammed was a kind and giving man that sent the lucky ones on the straight path.May Allah guide
            you on the straight path ammen

        • MikeWood

          Al-Fatihah [The Opening] is the best known chapter of the Koran. This sura is recited as part of all the mandatory daily prayers – the salat – and repeated within each prayer. A faithful Muslim who said all their prayers would recite this sura over 5000 times a year. It goes like this:
          In the Name of Allah, the Merciful, the Compassionate
          Praise belongs to Allah, the Lord of all Being,
          the All-merciful, the All-Compassionate,
          the Master of the Day of Doom.
          Thee only we serve; to Thee alone we pray for succor.
          Guide us in the straight path,
          the path of those whom Thou has blessed,
          not of those against whom Thou are wrathful,
          nor of those who are astray.

          Those last 2 lines are generally understood to refer to Jews and Christians respectively as Jews are thought to have incurred Allah's wrath and Christians are thought to be misguided.

          I hope that answers your question mukhtar. For further information see Mark Durie "The Third Choice: Islam, Freedom, and Dhimmitude", a book I would highly recommend for anyone wanting a better understanding of Islamic theology.

    • DeucePrez

      Your comment defies logic & common sense and is based on the false premise that the U.S. is "a Christian country". Any overzealous Christian who believes that propaganda does not know jack about U.S. history OR the U.S. Constitution.

      • Alexander Gofen

        One must be really an extreme victim of progressive propaganda to doubt that America had been and must remain forever an exclusively Judeo Christian nation, no less than Italy, France or Spain were exclusively Catholic. One must be an extreme crazy to believe as though any nation is anything-in-the-world faith nation.

      • Beth

        "does not know jack about U.S. history OR the U.S. Constitution"

        Last Article of the U.S. Constitution: (Quote)

        Article. VII

        Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven…
        {that year signifies only one possible Lord for this Constitution]

        …and of the – INDEPENDENCE (from all other nations) – of the United States of America.

        "that year signifies only one possible Lord for this Constitution" and so does every dated document or check that you sign. (back to the books for you)

    • Vernon

      Islamists (Islam means submission) plan to destroy all not exacly like them even other islamists. muslims supposed to reject that totalitarianism. What state or country these muslims inhabit or control? Unknown. They seem largely invisible.

  • Ephesians511Blog

    A new post on Boykin yesterday

  • AbdurRahim

    Top US General. William J. Boykin Take note to real bigotry!

  • xlent

    ALL islam is evil, cruel, hateful and demonic.

  • Nathan

    You supposed believers are the ones that sound evil, cruel, hateful and demonic. Listen to the hatred you spew with your uneducated words. It is this ignorance and stupidity that is causing the demise of the American empire. You guys sound like a bunch of psycho, white supremacist. God have mercy on your souls.

  • matt m

    The retired general is just another Protestant Zionist that wants to risk a nuclear winter for 100 million people in an attempt to protect 4 million Israeli Jews, f'n wack-job jarhead , trigger-happy murderer.

    • Beth

      If the General is a Christian, then his only Commands are: Do not lie, Do not steal, Do not cheat, Do not kill, and Do not covet. Beyond those Christian Commands…there are no more.

      The Koran violates every single one of those commands….and on a level that a ten yr-old can understand. What we teach to the next generation is the most important thing we'll ever do.

  • Beth

    Why not go directly to the source of the problem?

    Taught in the Koran:
    Beheadings (047.004) Racism (005.041) Gang Rape (033.052) Crucifixions (005.033) Genocide "without mercy" (033.061) Treason (008.067)
    (Now, where do those teachings leave the so-called 'moderate muslims' ???)

    If the Koran were aloud to speak for itself – it would have the power to shut the mouths of all who deny the brutal teachings of Islam, including the kings of this world.

    The fact that there are none on earth – WHO WOULD WANT ANY OF THOSE THINGS DONE TO THEM, – is what makes those teachings evil.

    This is the tool for the warfare (which is serious) against the liars and mockers – and it's not being used.

    • P. Kelly

      I looked up these verses. NOT ONE is about what you claim it to be. Did you even bother to get a copy of Qur'an and look them up yourself, or are you just copying someone's list?
      The interesting thing is, the more you haters rage, the more serious people do the research for themselves, and the more people convert to Islam. Keep up the good work.

      • Beth

        ok kelly, here's some Proof: (quote)

        005.041 O Messenger!let not those grieve thee, who race each other into unbelief: whether it be among those whosay "We believe" with their lips but whose hearts have no faith; or it be among the Jews,- men who will listen to any lie (speak about hatred?)

        If that's not pure racism, p kelly, – Then what is? Shall we teach that piece of the Koran to our children?

        047.004 Therefore, when ye meet '''the Unbelievers''' in fight, smite at their necks. (smite at their necks?)

        005.033 THE PUNISHMENT of those who '''wage war''' against Allah and His Messenger is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet. – {meanwhile – It is the Muslims who are commanded to initiate the fight} 002.216 – 009.039 (speak about rage?…..crucifixions???)

        That's 3 proofs of what I put forth (and the rest that I gave is proven also – just by looking at them for yourself)

        If those 3 teachings are acceptable to you p kelly (and crucifixions???), …then I have to wonder, what else is acceptable to you?

        You are the problem – not the solution – and the solution is…to tell the truth.

  • Ben

    The obvious danger of inhuman Iran`s rulers,paying for Americans,Jews,Sunnies,their own people killing is nothing for leftist demagogs like Coran,race,imperialism-everything is used for lies and swindle.

  • Bettina

    Author of, The Wages of Appeasement, Professor Bruce Thornton, said it best when Peter Robinson of Uncommon Knowledge asked for a solution to Islam's ass-backwards ideology encroaching upon Western Civilization. "They're (Muslims) always telling us, 'We love death more than you love life.' we should just give them what they love." Thornton is a regular contributor to FrontPage. Brilliant, uncompromising with brass balls. My kinda man.

  • matt

    2012 out of Iraq, US human shields decamp the AO.

    No Iraq and this would have been Operation Opera back in 2005, if Iraq went well in 2003 Iran would have been next, it didn't, they knew they were next and bogged you down.

    If they shoot at you shoot back, or cop it.

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  • Лариса

    dear general, there are a lot of scammers on dating sites under your name asking for monyey.