Embassy Terror in Afghanistan


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But the question now facing the West, especially in a time of tremendous financial pressure in most Western capitals, is whether continued exertion will continue to yield further rewards. It is increasingly difficult to make that case. There is little reason to believe (indeed, there is evidence to the contrary) that a continued NATO military presence in Afghanistan has had a positive impact on the society.

Some Afghans have no doubt benefited from Western development aid or medical treatment, but there are few who doubt that Afghanistan’s traditional, sectarian culture won’t immediately reassert itself once Western military forces depart. In one telling example, approximately 1,500 English-speaking Afghans, who worked with the Canadian military as translators, were so fearful of what Afghanistan is and will remain that they applied for refugee status in Canada, hoping their work with that country’s military might get them to the front of the line — and for 550 of them, it worked. That these brave Afghans have so little faith in their country’s future should be a wake-up call to the West.

Since there is little, if any, hope of transforming Afghanistan into even a semi-functional Western-style democracy, and corruption and violence will remain the norm, the time is right to begin planning a Western withdrawal. The pullout need not be rushed, and perhaps not absolute. The Washington Post’s Charles Krauthammer was right when he recently noted the strategic utility of the American military presence in Afghanistan, calling it “the base from which we have freedom of action to strike Jihad Central in Pakistan and the border regions.” But the American military can maintain some presence there, and continue to train the Afghan security forces in the hopes that they might keep a lid on the local Islamists, while conceding that any notion of nation-building is off the table and unworkable.

Proposing that concession may have political risks. The leader to announce that America was withdrawing from Afghanistan, or drawing down forces to a minimal level required to strike terrorist camps and train the local forces, would run the risk of being accused of overseeing defeat. And there may be outrage from humanitarian and international groups that would characterize such a step as conceding the future of Afghanistan’s women and children to the brutal rule of tribal warlords and Islamists. But the decision to withdraw would be the right one, because remaining will do nothing to prevent that same sad outcome.

Bin Laden is dead. Al-Qaeda injured. The Afghan security forces are developing the ability to operate independently. It’s time for the West to start planning its exit.

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  • ObamaYoMoma

    The local insurgents can simply wait out the allies. No amount of surges, no new strategy, and no highly competent Western general is going to change that.

    Some of us could have told the morons running this war what the inevitable outcome would be many years ago

    That is not to say that the effort in Afghanistan has not had some merit.

    Okay…other than inflating our national debt and needlessly killing and maiming thousands of our brave troops, exactly what merit the effort in Afghanistan has had?

    It has shown the Islamists of the world that, contrary to what they might have believed in the year 2000, the West will fight long, hard battles in the defense of its interests and democratic values.

    Yeah right…the only thing it did was impress upon the Islamic world how incredibly incompetent, blinded by political correctness, and totally oblivious to the reality of Islam the USA is. In other words, what it really did was embolden them.

    And it is likely the U.S. Special Forces raid that killed Osama bin Laden would have been impossible were it not for the presence of a powerful American military machine in Afghanistan

    Have you ever heard of the Lilly Pad strategy? Apparently not.

    Actually, had we focused in 2001 only on obliterating OBL and AQ in retaliation for 9/11 instead of becoming distracted by preparing to pursue a fantasy based nation-building mission to win the hearts and minds of Muslims, which is absolutely impossible, by the way, by jumping into the middle of a jihad we had no business jumping into the middle of between the Sharia compliant Taliban and Sharia compliant Northern Alliance, OBL and AQ would have been obliterated 10 years ago. Despite 10 long years, some of you neo-cons are just as oblivious of Islam and reality as the day the 9/11 jihad attacks occurred and that's pretty pathetic.

    is whether continued exertion will continue to yield further rewards.

    Uhm….what rewards? Give me a break! We are propping up two democratically elected Sharia states in Afghanistan and Iraq and if you believe those Sharia states are anything other than our eternal enemies, then I have a bridge to sell you.

    Since there is little, if any, hope of transforming Afghanistan into even a semi-functional Western-style democracy, and corruption and violence will remain the norm, the time is right to begin planning a Western withdrawal.

    Dude…you don't understand what Islam is. It is impossible under any circumstances whatsoever to transform any Muslim country into a Western-style democracy, much less Afghanistan, as Islam besides being a semi-religion, really a cult, is also a draconian form of totalitarianism.

    The Washington Post’s Charles Krauthammer

    Charles Krauthammer is a neo-con and a RINO on steroids, and the truth is when it comes to the fantasy based nation-building missions in Afghanistan and Iraq and also with respect to our Islamic enemies, Krauthammer couldn't be more mentally incompetent.

    No wonder the writer of this lame garbage is so oblivious, look at who he is reading and citing. In any event, Krauthammer is never ever right because he is an ideologue and only sees what he sees, and what he sees couldn't be more delusional or more mentally incompetent.

    But the American military can maintain some presence there, and continue to train the Afghan security forces in the hopes that they might keep a lid on the local Islamists,

    Man…are you oblivious!

    And there may be outrage from humanitarian and international groups that would characterize such a step as conceding the future of Afghanistan’s women and children to the brutal rule of tribal warlords and Islamists.

    Well let those loons go fight then. Not to mention also that brutal oppression of females takes place in every Islamic state, as it is part and parcel of Sharia, which is intrinsic to Islam.

    But the decision to withdraw would be the right one, because remaining will do nothing to prevent that same sad outcome.

    So it took you guys 10 years to figure that out? Damn…you guys are slow!

    It’s time for the West to start planning its exit.

    The West should have never been there to begin with. Let's get out and let the Jihad between the Northern Alliance and the Taliban resume. Indeed, Muslim on Muslim violence is good for Dar al Harb (Us) and bad for Dar al Islam (Them). In fact, we should never ever intervene to stop Muslim on Muslim violence, and instead we should look for cracks and fissures to exploit to incite Muslim on Muslim violence. Of course, if we did that neo-cons like that loon Krauthammer would want to intervene to stop it and to pursue fantasy-based nation-building missions to attempt to win their hearts and minds.

    In any event, I couldn't help noticing the way the writer came to the realization that further engagement in Afghanistan would be fruitless, without ever admitting the fact that the neo-cons were wrong, which in a way is kind of scary, since it also means they still haven't learned a damn thing from their stupid mistakes..