“Christian Terrorism”?

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In light of the Norway terrorist attack, and as expected, the hail of religious relativism has begun—the idea that, if a “Christian,” such as Breivik, commits terrorism, then it is folly to assert that certain Muslim doctrines inspire violence and terror: all becomes relative.  A recent AP report titled “‘Christian terrorist’? Norway case strikes debate,” makes this clear:

As westerners wrestle with such characterizations of the Oslo mass murder suspect, the question arises: Nearly a decade after 9/11 created a widespread suspicion of Muslims based on the actions of a fanatical few, is this what it’s like to walk a mile in the shoes of stereotype?  “Absolutely,” said Mark Kelly Tyler, pastor of Mother Bethel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Philadelphia. “It clearly puts us in a position where we can’t simply say that extreme and violent behavior associated with a religious belief is somehow restricted to Muslim extremists.”  “It speaks to cultural assumptions, how we are able to understand something when it (comes from) us,” Tyler said. “When one of us does something terrible, we know that’s not how we all think, yet we can’t see that with other people.”  Psychologists say stereotypes come from a deeply human impulse to categorize other people, usually into groups of “us” and “them.”

The report goes on to give the opinions of an array of sociologists, anthropologists, and psychologists, who regurgitate the same aforementioned themes on “a fanatical few,” “extreme and violent behavior,” “cultural assumptions,” and “stereotypes.”

Yet not once do any of these soft-scientists bother investigating, let alone pointing out, what Christianity and Islam actually teach regarding violence.

Nor do they seem cognizant that there is a major difference between what people do in the name of religion and what the religion itself commands—just as there is a major difference between historical descriptions of war in the Bible and timeless prescriptions to wage war in the Koran (see “Are Judaism and Christianity as Violent as Islam?” for a full treatment of these issues).

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  • dr.music

    Muslims to the MAD end ….no guts….no guts to leave islam …. No guts… no guts to take an educated leap out of islam ….no guts to leave islam behind and save his future family…..no guts to leave islam….no guts…muslims have no guts. Even evil osama had no guts to leave islam even though he saw that islam was evil and willed and instructed his kids not to jihad which is at the core of EVIL islam…. The evil osama guy knew islam was evil but again no guts to leave islam…no guts…muslims have no guts to do good…no guts…muslims JUST have no guts. Period.

  • ObamaYoMoma

    The two biggest problems I see people making today are first of all they conflate jihad with terrorism, and second stupidly assuming that Islam is a Religion of Peace™ being hijacked by a tiny minority of extremists.

    Terrorism is politically based, is always perpetrated by political extremists for any number of political causes, and always involves violence against civilian non-combatants.

    Meanwhile, jihad, on the other hand, is always Islam based, is waged only by mainstream orthodox Muslims as opposed to political extremists as in the case of terrorism, is always in the cause of Allah, can be both violent and non-violent, unlike terrorism which is always violent, and is always directed against unbelievers, both civilian non-combatants and military combatants.

    Moreover, in stark contrast to terrorism, which usually consists of only isolated events like Breivik’s attack, jihad, on the other hand, has been taking place perpetually around the world for almost 1400 years continuously and is specific to Islam only.

    In fact, the sixth and most important pillar of which Islam stands makes it an obligatory duty in Islam for each and every Muslim to fight jihad in the cause of Allah. It doesn’t make it an obligatory duty only for EXTREMISTS and it doesn’t make it an obligatory duty only for RADICALS. Instead, it makes it an obligatory duty in Islam for ALL MUSLIMS to fight jihad in the cause of Allah, no exceptions.

    Thus, all jihadists, whether of the violent variety or the non-violent variety, per Islam’s sixth and most important pillar, are MAINSTREAM ORTHODOX MUSLIMS as opposed to political extremists as is the case with terrorism.

    Hence, ALL MAINSTREAM ORTHODOX MUSLIMS are jihadists. A few of them are violent jihadists, but most of them are non-violent stealth and deceptive jihadists, and the ones that are not jihadists are not Muslims at all but blasphemous apostates that must be executed per the dictates of Islam.

    In addition, the most important difference between jihad and terrorism is that jihad, in stark contrast to terrorism, can also take place via non-violent means. In fact, the non-violent varieties of jihad relative to the violent varieties of jihad take place exponentially far more prevalently. Indeed, it’s not even close.

    However, because jihad and terrorism are conflated together as being the same thing, the non-violent varieties of jihad take place completely undetected and unopposed, and this manifestation is analogous to the West being oblivious to Soviet espionage during the Cold War. Had the West been oblivious to Soviet espionage during the Cold War the same way it is oblivious to the non-violent varieties of jihad today, the West would have lost the Cold War.

    Indeed, an example of stealth and deceptive non-violent jihad in action taking place completely undetected and unopposed would be mass Muslim immigration to the West and other non-Muslim countries for the purpose of demographic conquest.

    An example of stealth and deceptive non-violent terrorism in action taking place completely undetected and unopposed is there are no such examples because terrorism, in stark contrast to jihad, always only involves violence. Yet somehow it is invariably conflated with jihad.

    Further, because people naively believe the canard that Islam is a so-called Religion of Peace™ being hijacked by a tiny minority of extremists, most people also naively assume that just because most Muslims outwardly appear to be non-violent that it means that most Muslims are peaceful and moderate. Nevertheless, during the Cold War most Communists also outwardly appeared to be non-violent, yet no one stupidly assumed they were all peaceful and moderate.

    Islam is not a so-called Religion of Peace™. Indeed, it is not even a faith-based religion. As a matter fact, Islam requires first and foremost for all Muslims to totally, completely, and unconditionally submit to the will of Allah, as the word Islam in Arabic means submission and the word Muslim in Arabic means one who submits.

    Thus, unlike in legitimate faith-based religions whereby if you lose faith you can simply convert to another religion or apostatize from religion altogether. In Islam, on the other hand, because it requires first and foremost for all Muslims to unconditionally submit to the will of Allah, conversion to another religion or apostasy constitutes a capital offense. Hell, even questioning or challenging the will of Allah constitutes blasphemy in Islam, which is also a capital offense.

    Hence, it is not like Muslims have a choice in the matter not to fight jihad in the cause of Allah per the sixth and most important pillar of Islam. It is either fight jihad in the cause of Allah or otherwise face capital punishment.

    Therefore, again ALL MAINSTREAM ORTHODOX MUSLIMS are jihadists. A few of them are violent jihadists, but most of them are stealth and deceptive non-violent jihadists, and the ones that are not jihadists are not Muslims at all, but instead blasphemous apostates that must be executed per the texts and tenets of Islam.

    • None Given

      Christianity is also not a religion of peace, it is the world's worst terrorist death cult. Look at the numbers, look at the body counts. Christianity is far worse than their Islamic death cultist colleagues.

      • ObamaYoMoma

        Please seek mental help for your severe mental issues and please don't bug me again or I will be forced to call you a moonbat.

  • ObamaYoMoma

    Since 9/11/2001 there have been in excess of 17,500 fully documented jihad attacks in the world, and all of those jihad attacks were perpetrated by mainstream orthodox Muslims in the cause of Allah. In fact, the proof is those jihadists always make sure to cite the texts and tenets of Islam to justify their attacks.

    Meanwhile, in that same time period there have been exactly zero attacks perpetrated by Christians or anyone else, for that matter, citing the texts and tenets of Christianity as justification for their attacks. Not a single one.

  • Mel

    Excellent posts! Thank you for this very articulate and logical analysis.

    • Erik

      Breivik states in his manifest that he has not a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. Can it be more obvious? He is not a christian. He says so himself. Yet scholars like Mark Juergensmeyer and others keep repeating what they want to believe.

    • StephenD

      Because any opposition to the standard secular statements usually results in you being "lumped" together and labeled a Fanatic and you are marginalized. Only with this post (and others of similar quality) they cannot do that. I reiterate the sentiments of Mel. Excellent Post!

  • http://jc.does-it.net Gene W.

    There are Major differences between us.
    1. The creator God authored the Bible as proven on one page http://jc.does-it.net and Christians do not harm other humans because we are created in God's image.
    2. An anti-God had to author or inspire the Koran since the Koran calls God a liar and devout Muslims are to kill infidels (Judeo-Christians) and destroy what God established [Israel].

    Many are called "Christians" just because they may believe there is a God, been raised in a Christian environment, or are not Jewish or not a member of any non Christian group.

    The word Christian is misused since it should mean Christlike and unless that person has accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, they can not be Christlike and should not be called Christians.

  • tagalog

    It's really quite simple: Muslims commit terrorism on a large-scale basis. It is a part of the Islamic worldview of a significant minority of Muslims. Christians occasionally commit terrorism, usually (but not always) not grounded in religion, on what is often a sole-actor basis.

    When Christians commit terrorism and proclaim that their terrorism is committed in the name of Christianity, Christians make a point of deploring such claims as loudly as possible, and rejecting them as un-Christian. When Muslims commit terrorism and proclaim that it is done in the name of Islam, the silence of the mainstream Muslims is deafening.

    Both Islamic terrorists and terrorists who are Christian are acting outside the mainstream. Speaking comparatively, Islamic terrorists far outnumber Christian terrorists in cases where it is the religion that inspires the terrorism.

    Given these comparative differences and distinctions, what is left is that there is a certain kind of person who must equate Christians who commit terrorism with Muslims who commit terrorism. Observation quickly reveals the delusional aspect of this equation, but there are people who gain something from insisting on the equation, so it persists.

    It's a bit like those who condemn the Crusades as oppressive to Muslims. Yes, but the Muslims invaded Christendom and the Crusades were started to bring the Muslim invasion to an end. That latter bit is easily forgotten by a particular kind of mind.

  • FBastiat

    REASON magazine, always a good source:

    "Breivik and the Anti-Zionist Smear"

  • Ghostwriter

    I say Breivik was a lunatic no matter what his religion was,he is still a lunatic.

  • esperantominoria

    The number of <real,moderate Muslims if few.By moderate I mean a person who believes in human rights(especially Freedom of Speech) with no ifs,buts,or maybes,

    I know of only 2 Muslim intellectuals who would be,I think,in that group.One was the founder of the Replubican Brothers in Sudan,who was later hung for apostasy

    The other is the grandson of the Ayatollah Khomeini,who wants the US to invade Iran and establish a secular government,separation f Mosque and State


  • xlent

    All islam is all evil. The best little program the devil ever designed for .."Kill steal and destroy"

  • WilliamJamesWard

    Breivik has what association with what Christian denomination, when will this be
    exposed and where was his baptism, I think nowhere. Nothing about this man
    speaks to being a Christian and all about him speaks to being a leftist loser with
    a view of life that discounts the value of human life whereas Christians are
    supposed to declare it's value as to how God valued his Creation as in
    John 3:16, no this man is anti-Christ…………………………..William

  • jewdog

    I liked Barry Rubin's analysis in jpost.com which astutely noted that Islamic terrorist groups in Norway are lionized, at least when they murder Jews, thereby leading unstable individuals to conclude that terrorism is legitimate and will garner support for a cause.
    Islamic law is clear that those who do not convert or submit to Islamic rule as dhimmis should be killed, but Norway is largely Lutheran, a religion founded by the rabid judeophone, Martin Luther. It's no surprise that so many Norwegians support terror organiztions that murder Jews like Hamas – such support couched in poltically correct rationalizations, of course.
    Breivik's manifesto claims that he was not religious, but he did think that terrorism would start a revolution, a reasonable mistake to make in meshuggah Norway.

  • PatriotX

    It’s real simple. If muslims want people to quit associating terrorism with Islam than those who commit terrorism need to quit doing terrorism in the name of Islam, or, wow, what an idea, even better,….. QUIT DOING TERRORISM!!!! Thousands of people were not out in the streets dancing and cheering after news of the holocaust reached the U.S. nor did Hitler say that he killed millions in the name of Jesus Christ. Those who do not support the jihadist approach to life, you might do yourselves some good if you spoke out against those who practice this. Then, again, in certain countries this is a death sentence however in the U.S., there’s no execuse. Well, so far we don’t have that to worry about.

    • None Given

      Christianity is also not a religion of peace, it is the world's worst terrorist death cult. Look at the numbers, look at the body counts. Christianity is far worse than their Islamic death cultist colleagues.

  • DrBukk

    Here is why, IMHO, Mohammed came here as Satan's Representative (SR), and I wish feminists would pay attention. SR undid thousands of years of wisdom and rights protecting those weaker than men under Judeo-Christian (evolving) ethics. He introduced marrying cousins, polygamy, breeding cannon fodder boys and bestiality. It is brilliant in it's perfection of an evil sexually-driven culture. Conquest was the only way for the majority of young males to acquire wives, harems and plunder. Slaughter of virtually all conquered erased the history of their grisly advances.

    To top it off, he took away any concept of blame or expectation of nobility among the strong and sexually charged males. It's all Allah's will, no worries. She made me rape her. Finally, any scientific curiosity is heresy because Allah can make the sun stop rising in the east if he wants. No such thing as natural laws.

    So ladies, even if you are skeptical about the Bible's authenticity, you should be grateful for the influence of Jesus vs. the warmongering Satan sent to take your cushy life down the abyss into helpless hell.

    • None Given

      Man, you really are screamingly insane, huh? Bet you vote Republican, too.

  • 4Liberty

    Breivik is the same as the Jews in Jesus' time that killed tax collectors. They were misguided and didn't follow the old testament's teachings. To compare this poor lost soul to Christianity is ridiculous. He took God's law into his own hands and will answer for it, the same as everyone else will answer for their transgressions. Of course, it's a usable propaganda piece for the atheists and muslim sympathizers. What else is new? The difference being, this guy was crazy. What's Islam's excuse?

    • None Given

      Fact is that the Christian terrorist *is* a Christian, just as George Bush is, just as Adolf Hitler was. Christianic terrorism is the world's worse brand. The Christanic death cult has the highest body count of all the religion-based terrorists out there.

      Religion is evil. Christianity is the worst.

  • None Given

    Well yes, Christian terrorism is the worse brand name of terrorism in the world. Witness the million people murdered by Christanic terrorists under the tyranny of George W. Bush and his fellow Christians.

  • ObamaYoMoma

    Uhm….Islam is responsible for killing 270 million unbelievers. Hence, besides being incredibly mentally incompetent, you are more than just a little naive.

    In any event, not even close to 1 million Muslims were killed in Iraq, but since Muslims are the eternal enemies of all unbelievers, Muslim on Muslim violence is good for unbelievers and bad for believers. Hence, I wish it were true.

    Moreover, although GWB is a Christian the fantasy-based nation-building mission wasn't motivated by Christianity and in fact caused more than three quarters of the Christian population of Iraq to flee the country as the Muslims, once free from Saddam's yoke, started violently oppressing and systematically persecuting when not outright slaughtering altogether all Christian and other unbelievers similarly to the way that Christians and unbelievers are routinely persecuted throughout the Islamic world.

    Again, as I said earlier, please seek mental help to deal with your severe mental issues regarding perception, and also please go to school because you are also exceedingly ignorant and extremely susceptible to getting your ignorance's exploited to the hilt.