Conversion, Adultery and Savagery Strike Egypt

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The true story behind the recent Islamist attacks on Egypt’s Copts—wherein over a dozen Christians were killed, hundreds wounded, and their churches torched—is as illuminating as it is sordid.

To recap, Islamists—or “Salafists,” as many in the Egyptian media are referring to the “Taliban-looking guys in slippers”—demonstrated before St. Mark Cathedral, insisting that their “Muslim sister” Camelia Shehata be released by the Coptic Church, which was supposedly holding and torturing her, a Copt, for converting to Islam.  So Camelia once again appeared announcing unequivocally that she never converted to Islam, and would live and die as a Christian.

Not ones to be deterred, Islamists immediately began rioting about how another Coptic girl, Abeer Talaat, had converted to Islam and was abducted and imprisoned by the Coptic Church—hence the violent rampage (which continued into the weekend, when Christians demonstrating against the attacks were attacked again, with one killed and over 100 injured).

In fact, Abeer did convert to Islam. However, her family did not know; all they knew was that their married daughter had run off with another man. They brought her to stay at a guest house belonging to the church, designed to help separated couples reconcile. According to the priest, she left the guest house well before the Islamists began insisting that she was being held “against her will” in the church.

More telling is why Abeer converted to Islam: to get an instantaneous divorce from her husband. A Muslim cabdriver she knew told her that if she converted to Islam and “married” him (i.e., lived with him), that would automatically annul her marriage from the Christian. This of course is a Sharia stipulation, though one that (currently) contradicts Egyptian law, which views her as a bigamist for marrying another man while still being legally wed (she is currently in jail under investigation).

Asked in a recent interview if she converted to Islam for its own appeal, or simply to get rid of her Coptic husband, Abeer said “No, I had a lot of problems with my husband and that’s what caused me to do this [convert to Islam]. I asked ‘How can I be rid of him [her husband]’ and was told to ‘be done of him by changing your religion’ [to Islam], so I did this to be rid of him.”

Asked “Do you want to stay a Muslim, Abeer?” she responded with a small “Well, it’s something that there’s no return from.”

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  • Jim

    Where were the American mainline churches during the Egyptian pogroms.

    Not a peep .

    • davarino

      If churches would band together they could be a mighty force for good, but they all have their own little fiefdoms to protect.

      When I say churches, I dont mean the liberal ones that are fronts for social activism.

  • Grinch

    Protesting Israel's treatment of the Palestinians, no doubt.

    • davarino

      Those are the ones that are fronts for social activism

  • Chezwick_mac

    The penalty for apostasy in Islam is tantamount to a mafia edict. Such linkage should alert even the most slothful intellect that something is rotten in Mecca.

    Folks, in your discussions with the uninitiated (typically, bleeding-hearted liberals), hammer home the monstrosities of the hudud punishments. Explain that if one is tolerant of Islam, one is tolerant of the murder of apostates, of the stoning of adulteresses, of the amputation of limbs for theft, and of legalized discrimination (against non-Muslims and women).

    THESE barbarisms are how we must define Islam in our debates.

    • StephenD

      The defining moment for me came with the Massacre of the Fogel Family in the name of Islam and the celebration of it by it's adherents afterward and the CONTINUED teaching of it’s children to hate. There is no reconciling this barbarity ~ EVER!

  • BLJ

    Where is Anderson Cooper on the ground reporting in Egypt?

  • John

    Didn't take long for the persecution to start did it.

  • WilliamJamesWard

    Barbarism and evil are the twins of Muslim consciousness. Why the Copts are
    not organized to protect themselves is a mystery, they have been around long
    enough to see what kind of neighbors they have. In all of the Islamist lands,
    Christians and Jews should see the sign on the door, leave or live in complete
    misery, without safety and death stalking you daily, nice neighbors Muslims.

    • jacob

      Neither will see the signs because liberalism is blind to anything else but what
      IT wants to see and not further.

      Witness: the way the moronic Mayor of the Rotten Apple, his Commission and
      quite a few of its people have seen the Ground Zero Mosque initiative, as it
      looks OK to most of them, stupid liberals unable to grasp the meaning of
      anything Islam does until too damned late when there is nothing to do…

      And with the kind of President these very "voters" made President, even worst

      • WilliamJamesWard

        It is a social consciousness movement that preceeds action and we watch
        what happens in Europe and the Middle East, we can not say we have had
        no warning of what will happen in America. The Muslim in Chief is doing
        all he can to weaken us for Islamist incursion and dominance, I on the
        other hand cling to my Bible and guns but stay aware and alert to what
        needs to be done. All Americans are in peril, especially those who listen
        to leftist trash and take no heed to the dangers they are in denial of. I can
        only take comfort in the fact we have freedom to give voice to our observed
        threat from enemies domestic and foreign, we may see a call to arms
        in the near future. My life moves on to quickly but I would hope to be alive
        to help cleans the evil spreading in our Nation……………Regards……….William

    • LindaRivera

      Massive numbers of Muslims are brought into our Western countries but it is extremely hard for persecuted non-Muslims from Muslim countries to escape the fear and terror and get asylum in America. A few days ago, I was told by a Christian man from Egypt that he had applied three times for asylum in America and each time was turned down.

      • WilliamJamesWard

        There are missionaries from my Church that witness the evil treatment
        of non-Muslims in Africa and the Middle East. To flee and find safety
        is becoming more difficult daily. Africa is a large continent and there are
        still areas where people can go without Muslim persecution, this
        though will end soon enough, the solution for this dilemma must be
        to somehow draw a line and fight as in the Sudan. If this man was a
        Muslim he probably could have caught a ride into America on Airforce one.
        Linda we live in perilous times and millions are being martyred for
        their faith, we are truly blessed here but must be ready in and instant
        to stand up and stand firm in defense of our freedom or we will be
        useless in and ever darkening world…………………………….William

  • LindaRivera

    It is a disaster that the church forbids divorce. It was reported that this woman's Christian husband was physically abusive., but she could not get a divorce from the church. To protect victims AND their children, people MUST be able to get a divorce! The consequences of this woman being unable to get a divorce were horrible. And now on pain of death, she will not be able to leave Islam if she wants to. She has exchanged one set of bad circumstances to something which could end up being far worse.

    • aspacia

      Similar to the Catholic church. It costs a small fortune to divorce in this faith.

  • Stuart Parsons

    Face up to it Islam, Muhammad was a delusional and narcissistic barbarian. READ ALL HIS HATEFUL STATEMENTS IN YOUR ' BELOVED' QURAN

    Islam is a far greater threat to the well-being of mankind than Fascism, Communism and the hordes of Ghengis Khan ever were.

  • jewdog

    Rabbi Ray, in his usual lucid style, tells the awful truth.
    Egyptian history is the story of a great civilization that has been buried gradually over time through the process of Islamic oppression and the use of conversion as a means of escape.
    Now that Egypt is mainly Muslim and the jizya tax is gone, it has become an impoverished country marked by ignorant, hateful Islamic preachers inciting their zombie minions to murder Christians and commit genocide against Jews.

  • nabi18
    • aspacia

      Your point? I have the Jeffersonian Bible, and have read most of his writings. The only reason he owned the Qu'ran was to better fight the Muslims who were attacking our merchant ships.

      Carefully read how Jefferson often signed his letters with praise of Jesus and Scripture,not Qu'ranic scripture, but Biblical scripture.

  • kblink45

    Shall we wait until the boots are on our neck before we recognize the march of Islam?

    • WilliamJamesWard


  • Matt G

    Most people are ignorant of history, Christianity, and theology….When any article mentions Christians they have no moral or theological compass by which they dignify the label. In my opinion, they are not Christian churches. They are groups of people who have various doctrines they believe and lack faith…..they are works oriented, just like Islam. The knee-jerk reaction is to believe these are Christian….to a secular audience. What is their history –Catholic, protestant, etc….cults.

    • SpiritOf1683

      As Christians are so bad, off you go to Saudi Arabia or Pakistan. You and your sort aren't wanted here in the West, to take advantage of what the largely Christian West has to offer, whilst trashing it at the same time.

    • aspacia

      A cult does not release its members, Christianity and Judaism do.

      A Deist who left formal religion.