Raped and Ransacked in the Muslim World

Raymond Ibrahim is a Shillman Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center, a Judith Friedman Rosen Writing Fellow at the Middle East Forum and a CBN News contributor. He is the author of Crucified Again: Exposing Islam’s New War on Christians (2013) and The Al Qaeda Reader (2007). 


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Plundering the possessions, lives, and dignity of Christians in the Islamic world: is this a random affair, a product of the West’s favorite offenders—poverty, ignorance, grievance—or is it systematic, complete with ideological backing?

Consider the very latest from the Muslim world:

  • Pakistan: Muslim landowners used tractors to plough over a Christian cemetery in order to seize the land illegally. A young Christian mother was raped by six men. “In both cases, police covered up for the culprits.”
  • Iraq: A Christian youth was kidnapped and decapitated: his family could not pay the €70,000 ransom demanded by his abductors. “The murder was meant to intimidate Christians so that in the future they will more readily pay ransom demands.”
  • Egypt: Christian girls continue to be abducted and forced into conversion or concubinage (which amount to the same thing) and “kept as virtual slaves.”

None of this is surprising listening to popular Muslim preacher Abu Ishaq al-Huwaini:

If only we can conduct a jihadist invasion at least once a year or if possible twice or three times, then many people on earth would become Muslims. And if anyone prevents our dawa or stands in our way, then we must kill them or take as hostage and confiscate their wealth, women and children. Such battles will fill the pockets of the Mujahid who can return home with 3 or 4 slaves, 3 or 4 women and 3 or 4 children. This can be a profitable business if you multiply each head by 300 or 400 dirham. This can be like financial shelter whereby a jihadist, in time of financial need, can always sell one of these heads (meaning slavery) [translated by Nonie Darwish; original Arabic recording here].

Huwaini actually made these scandalous assertions some eighteen years ago.  But because they were only recently exposed, he was invited to “clarify” his position on Hikma TV last week. Amazingly, though he began by saying his words were “taken out of context,” he nonetheless reasserted, in even more blunt language, that Islam justifies plundering, enslaving, and raping the infidel.  (Al Youm 7 has the entire interview, excerpts of which I translate below.)

According to Huwaini, after Muslims invade and conquer a non-Muslim nation—in the course of waging an offensive jihad—the properties and persons of those infidels who refuse to convert or pay jizya and live as subjugated dhimmis, are to be seized as ghanima or “spoils of war.”

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  • Old Bob

    For God's sake, let's get about developing our every natural energy resource so that at some near date we can separate ourselves from these awful people. Boycott them. Isolate them. Confine them to their sand pits. Let them fester in their own hate and barbarity. Think of it, grown men, looked up to as “religious” leaders, advocating sexual slavery of children. They are not just wrong, they are sick. To permit entry to our country by anyone who associates in any way with that despicable creed to is to betray our political, cultural, and religious heritage. We bring no credit to ourselves or to our country by permitting onto our shores those who embrace intolerance and oppression. Why should we even consider permitting a monster like Abu Ishaq al-Huwaini to live within a thousand miles of an American child.

    • jasonz

      to heck with alternate energy, lets just kill every man, woman and child over there…nuke the whole thing and take their oil. i was mecca mosques to be converted into bbq rib joints and gay strip clubs hahahaha

  • kafirman

    "Let me be perfectly clear. The US is not, and will never be at war with Islam." Barry Soetero

    When will a Republican stand up and openly question the wisdom in granting 501(c)3 tax-exempt status–under religious auspices–to an Islamic group?

    • sharpsrifle

      Well, Barry might not be at war with them, but they sure as hell are (and have been) at war with us!

      Suffering the existence of this Stone Age cult of Arab supremacy is proving to be the death of a civilization which has taken 5,000 years to build! Why we didn't just level and annihilate mohammedan cities and "religious" sites is a mystery to me…perhaps if they were stomped into the dirt and denied the West's technology, they might be less of a threat.

      Well, we know THAT ain't gonna happen because the left and the stupid (often one and the same) would want to "help" the poor little barbarians…and then they'd be back, more vicious than ever. Islam is an ideology of pure evil! And until we on the right can shed our fear of PC shunning and SPEAK THE TRUTH, islam will ALWAYS be an existential threat not just to the United States, but to western civilization as a whole!

    • Gerald

      True the U.S. is not at war with Islam,but Islam has been at war with all mankind since its founding.

  • kafir4life

    Mr. Huwaini is what I would call an authentic muslim, pious, knowledgable about islam, studied in the koran. He's the sort of muslim where I receive the bulk of my islamic education. He is the measure that muslims use to determine their deen.

    We kafir have a choice where we get our islamic information. And this fellow sure knows what he's taking about. Here's one of the conclusions I've reached regarding the superiority of islam. It's not. Here's another. It's a gutter cult practiced by disgusting sub-humans. And one more. There is nothing redeeming about islam and its adherents. And another. Mohamat, the inventor of islam isn't so much a "prophet" as a dickless wonder that could only get women via rape (much like today's muslim "men").
    There's more, but I have to head over to the oval mosque, and pinch a mohamat.

    • davarino

      That is awsome my friend. I almost shat a mohamat myself from laughing so hard.

      Yes, it is clear from the picture above, that these ugly bastards have to enslave women in order to have sex, cause …… damn they be ugly. Plus they are subhuman.

      • MargaretSanger

        racist

        • StephenD

          That's a hell of a legacy name you give yourself. Shall we now refer to you as a "superior race" seeker? After all, the "founder" of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger was a believer in Eugenics and favored restricting the "right" to have children to those of superior intellect and finances. Here is one small quote from her:"It is a vicious cycle; ignorance breeds poverty and poverty breeds ignorance. There is only one cure for both, and that is to stop breeding these things. Stop bringing to birth children whose inheritance cannot be one of health or intelligence. Stop bringing into the world children whose parents cannot provide for them."Do you hold to this? Would you too advocate that those of a "lesser intellect" or a sufferer of a medical malady be restricted from having children as your name sake did? She was really quit a fool. Perhaps you have chosen a name befitting after all.

        • MRobs

          What race are the adherents of Islam? Islam is not a race you moron – it is a totalitarian political system bent on overtaking the world and killing anyone who does not adhere to it. Davarino is not a racist but you certainly are an idiot. Maybe the Islamists will chop your head off first.

          • Gerald

            No the Islamists will chop off her clit first

        • William_Z

          Margaret Sanger was racist

          • true nuff

            Margaret Sanger had it right. The planet has waaaay to many humans. Keeping babies with horrible disabilities alive via technology is cruel AND inhuman. Birthing them when you know what their condition will result in pain is not only cruel, it's evil. Allowing people to have more than, I'll be generous, 4 children, should be criminal. Poor people having babies they can't afford is pathetic, adopt a dog.

          • William_Z

            Margaret Sanger and other racists have all sorts of excuses, because they see the unfit everywhere.

          • William_Z

            Yeah, those 'poor people' they're all 'pathetic’, but I thank God George Washington Carver was born before people like you and Margaret Sanger showed up.

            Being born poor, and growing up uneducated you’d have him murdered in the womb, which is pathetic and racist.

        • Devita

          You, a woman, stand offended by these men, who may not be willing to die to preserve your honor as a woman, but will if they are pushed?

          That is exactly what will happen if muslims get their way, unless of course you have bought into the idea that a woman can defend herself against a slobbering mob of interbred (yes, they marry FIRST COUSINS, AND EVEN UNCLES) hyper-sexed insane trolls.

          Sorry, if this offends, but REAL men would never think to do such disgusting things like screw dead people and animals when they can’t find live ones of either gender, have sex with goats, donkeys, or other livestock, or babies of both genders.

          So good luck with that one. Let me know how that appeasement thing goes when you’re being sold at the market, ok?

      • dirtybird

        He would look better with a "Pearl necklace".

    • ahmadnb

      You are dead WRONG.

      I am a better Muslim than he is and don't agree with him at all. If I had my way, I would have him shaved and paraded through town with a PERVERT sign hanging from his neck. Then I'd throw him into prison to be made into Big Bad Bubba's b*tch.

      I don't need some half-literate bearded Mullah to teach me about the Qur'an and Islamic history. What he's proposing here is completely contradictory to what I know about Islam, the Qur'an and Islamic history.

      • fmobler

        I have no reason to doubt that you are sincere about your disagreements with this mullah. But you are still part of the problem. This man has a large following. He is not excoriated in Arab press, not ostracized by other Muslim clergy. Moreover, he indeed cites the very Koran and hadiths you claim to understand better than he.

        If you are serious when you say that you don't need a half-literate bearded (your insult, not mine) Mullah, to teach you about the Qu'ran and Islamic history, then you should reconsider following your half-literate, bearded prophet.

        Please look at what Islam claims, on its own first principles, not based on your well-meaning cultural affinity. I know many Muslims who, like you, are decent folks. But this doesn't mean they, or you, can square your personal decency with the facts about Mohamed, the history of Islam or the ethical claims of the religion. It is time for you, I suppose a Muslim of genuine good will, to reject this religion that is utterly at odds with your own humanity.

        • ahmadnb

          Give me a better alternative to Islam. And you don't really seem to know diddly squat about Islamic history or how to look at things in proper perspective. I don't need lectures from anyone about Islamic history…I know my history well. And I can recognize one who is learned, and can tell easily when one is definitely not (but may think that he or she is).

  • tanstaafl

    The only "religion" where rape is sacred.

  • http://elderabusehelp.org Ray

    It's going to be interesting when Sharia law comes to the U.S. to see how Americans adapt especially the left. how will they justifiy it? they will problabloy say the women brought it upon themselves! " Islam Respect it." Barry Soetero

    • jacob

      WOULD SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL ME WHO IS THIS "BARRY SOETERO" AND
      WHAT DOES HE STAND FOR ???

  • jacob

    About this "Women bring it upon themselves", with all due respect I have for women,
    maintaining that they are the only thing that makes this rotten life worth living and
    that with them is hell sometimes and without them is worst, I must recognize there
    is some truth in that statement. I've seen girls wearing cutoff pants so short that
    half their cheeks shows and to me at 80 and having seen more than I should have,
    is nauseating but I wouldn't guarantee it would to some other people and there is
    your answer….

    True, merchandise not shown is merchandise not sold but there has to be a limit
    to everything

    • aspacia

      Talk about hyperbole! Women wearing Victorian garb, and burkas have been raped. Rape is about control, not sex. It is about an insecure man wanting to control a woman.

  • sumsrent

    You're wrong.

    Islam does not mean "peace"… it means "submission".

    In fact… those "serial killers" that you call Christians aren't motivated to kill in the name of their religion.

    Big difference.

    Dhimmitude: the Islamic system of subjugating and governing populations conquered by jihad wars, encompassing all of the demographic, ethnic, and religious aspects of the political system. This includes slavery!

    Margaret… you have a lot to learn…

  • tim heekin

    Margaret Sanger………your screen name sort of says it all but you should know "islam" means "submission" and has nothing to do with "peace"

    • MargaretSanger

      Are you saying that it's okay to hate brown people?

      • sumsrent

        Margaret…

        It's not "hate" or "racist" when they really ARE trying to kill you.

      • Light

        Oh my God are you for real? We are talking about a so called Religion Of Peace and what that REALLY means and you throw in your tired old Lib playbook crap about RACE. What this country needs is to weed out morons like you and send them all to the MidEast. You libs make me sick to me stomach, it's NOT important what the offense is, that matters very little to you. It's the color of the offender that interests you. I'll answer your stupid petty, trite little question, LIB. Yes it's OK to hate brown people…..if they rape, behead, blowup, mutilate other human beings. It's OK to hate WHITE people if they do the same. You are a simplistic piece work.

      • elktwinmomma

        Are you saying ALL muslims are brown???????? Now that is racist!

      • tagalog

        It's OK to hate anyone you want to hate. When you interact with the rest of the world, you have to treat everyone equally. You don't have to like them, but you have to do business with them. Just like Booker T. Washington said.

      • William_Z

        To 'color code' people the way you do is racist.

      • Philip_Daniel

        Wait a second…are Bosnians brown people? How about Albanians? Cherkessians? Chechens? These are all WHITE CAUCASIAN MUSLIMS, and many have blonde hair and blue eyes.

        Alen Islamovic
        http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7

        Notice his Slavic surname (ending in -ic), his dirty blond hair and fair skin.
        http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/dangerroom/imag

        This is Ramzan Kadyrov, a Chechen — notice his white skin and Auburn hair. He also has blue eyes.

      • Bob Akbar

        Gee Whiz Margaret I thought you were using satire because you were saying such stupid things but now I see you actually meant it. Wow!

      • pagegl

        Do you have reading comprehension problems? Nothing in the statement by tim even begins to suggest any sort of hate. It's a simple statement of fact. I guess only in the leftist mind can stating a simple fact be interpreted as hateful. As Bugs would say "What a maroon…"

      • Devita

        It is not okay to hate anyone. Hate the sin, not the sinner. As far as brown people, aren’t we all shades of brown. I don’t know too many people who would fit the description “White.” Like in the total absence of color. White hair, white eyes, white teeth, white lips, white skin, white body, no color to them at all! Never met one of those kind in this world, EVER!.

        Now, that we’re beyond this stupidity as all true racists continually bring up the same lame question, “It’s okay to hate brown people?” when they can’t think of anything better as a real mean retort.

        Lets start with the truth:
        Since we are all shades of brown, that includes BLACK people, a beautiful dark chocolate brown; Asian people, a golden pale yellow with a slight tinge of brown; and lest we forget Native Americans, or American Indians, a tinge of brown mixed in firy golden red, we can now stop talking racism.

        Next, we can talk political systems:
        Theirs a political system is based on fear, cowardice, and subjugation through forced ignorance, polygamy, and one religion.
        Western political system is based on boldness, heroism, and freedom through tempered education and marriage of one man to one woman, with many religions.

        I could go on forever, but I think you get the point. Where these people worship whatever thing that is vile, debasing, and dehumanizing, with the total intent of mass subjugation to the dictates of a few old pedophiliac sado-masochist homosexual perverts and ours based on individual freedoms says it all about why these vile things need to be removed from the face of the earth before they do to us what they have managed to do to some of the earliest mathematical geniuses of their own – murder and replaced with morons who do not have enough brain cells to get in out of a sandstorm.

  • BobSmith101

    Would you wear a T-shirt with a Mohammad cartoon printed on it?

    You might in Montana. Don’t try it in Mecca.

    Why?

    Because, Islam trains a small number of its most devout believers it’s OK to kill. And Islamic killers have been trained to kill anyone who insults Allah and/or Mohammad.

    In Montana you’d have a good chance none of these Islamic killers would see you.

    In Mecca you wouldn’t last five minutes. One of Islam’s killers would come from out of nowhere and kill you. It is that simple.

    You don’t believe me? Ask any Muslim!

    Read it all at: http://islamsfatalflaw.blogspot.com/

    • Bob Akbar

      It wont be long and theyll get you in Montana too.

  • dirtybird

    You surely know that serial killers are numerical outliers, while radical Muslims number in the hundreds of millions. You also, I'm sure, are aware that Islam does not mean "peace", unless you are talking about a version of peace akin to Pax Romana, peace under Roman rule. No, Islam means "submission".

  • MRobs

    Margaret – Obviously the gene pool you came from needs to be culled. Islam means submission moron not peace. All killer terrorists are muslims not white men. They are even to stupid to realize that they end up killing more muslims then anthing else. At least they are inadvertenly culling their own gene pool.

  • tagalog

    Most serial killers in the West, i.e., the ones you know about since you are a Westerner with your eyes on Western affairs, are white Christians. But not all. There are, after all, the Atlanta Child Murderer and Aileen Wuornos. Many serial killers don't have any religious belief at all, so we can't know if they're Christians or something else. I bet many of them are atheists.

  • f16

    Islam means submission. Most serial killers are white Christians? Not. Serial killers by definition have abjured Christianity. Oh yes, those fellows who rammed the Trade Center and Pentagon, they were Christians?

  • ajnn

    huh ? how did serial-killers enter this discussion?

    are not serial-killers criminals energetically gtracked down, prosecuted, and jailed in civilized places?

    how is this similar to the appproved and abetted bestiality described in this article committed by orthodox muslims ?

    in this 'margaret sanger' (a eugenics proponant) our decrepit educational system strikes again.

  • LindaRivera

    Muslim immigrants in the UK publicly declare they want the wives of Danish men. Europe and the UK eager for Muslim conquest and the destruction of civilization respond by continuing to take in large numbers of the foot soldiers of Allah. Our nations face a nightmarish future if this is not stopped!

    Violent Muslim Protest Outside the Danish Embassy in London (February 3, 2006). Ferocious screams:

    "Death to you, by god."
    We want Danish blood."

    "May they bomb Denmark! So we can invade their country! And take their wives as war booty!"

    Threats are made against Jews: "The army of Mohammad is coming for you." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoMeUcC_M20

  • Stephen_Brady

    You beat me to this post. The more the "margaret sangers" of the world are ignored, the more desperate they will become. Then they shall show their complete lack of morality for all to see.

    The result: Decency wins.

  • Supreme_Galooty

    Islam means Peace? Margaret Sanger means stupid.

  • sharpsrifle

    "Peace"? Have you ever read the unholy koran, Maggie? Mohammed wasn't about peace, he was about sex, murder and forceable acqusition of property, AKA theft. If you think rape, beheadings, murder, child rape, slavery and territorial conquest are peace, I dread to think what your conception of violence is.

    "Islam" means "submission"…as in "submit or die." No wonder we can't make any headway against these troglodytes…we have people who still believe that happy-happy-joy-joy-kumbaya crap about the poow widdwe muswims. The enemy is to be destroyed, not apologized for…and those on the left who make excuses for barbarism are either fools, traitors or both.

  • Devita

    Can you imagine Iran having the actual capability of using an atomic bomb on a nation, like England, or France. Of course telling the “true believers” in their native tongue to flee the city because they intend to destroy it and the non-muslims who speak arabic ignoring the warning?

    What would they do after the country’s center of power was destroyed, row over and walk through the streets as conquerors, raping and killing those still alive, but dying from radiation poisoning?

    Let that sink in for a moment and you can see why Israel wants to blow these murdering half-human trolls out of existence. This is the way every single western country in the world should feel. It’s like living in the Hobbit story. The evil from the East rising to destroy middle earth and the elves fleeing across the sea into the West.

  • generalissimo

    Name one person that Jesus Christ killed: Go!
    Now, should I remind you of the battle of the trench in which prophet wannabe mohammad personally decapitated between 600 to 900 jews. Never, since muhammad fled to Medinna has islam been "peace". it's been war, persecution and oppression. He started his charlatain career playing the peaceful guru, but because he really lacked anything special, being that he could not perform miracles and was too avaracious to be trusted, he decided to try the more imperious generalissimo role (never mind my namesake) and became the prophet of war. It payed out; why would he go back to pretending he was all warm and fuzzy about mankind?

    • ahmadnb

      Muhammad ordered the men of Quraiza to be beheaded for their treachery. It was a form of punishment that God Himself ordered the Israelites to carry out against their enemies…and He actually went further than Muhammad did. Jericho, anyone? Don't believe me? Read the Bible. Book of Deuteronomy. Among others. I remember my Bible lessons from childhood pretty well.

      • xyzlatin

        The Christian bible is the New Testament (as the name implies).

        • ahmadnb

          So now we're just supposed to brush away the Old Testament? Forget what's in it? Brush it aside, except for the parts we like? How convenient…
          I'll quote a well-known Christian revert to Judaism (her Jewish ancestors in Spain were forced to "convert" to Christianity by the Spanish Inquisition, a truly "Christian" movement): "Christianity is a Hellenized version of Judaism". In my opinion, she is mostly correct. Before Paul preached Christianity to European audiences, it was essentially Judaism but with several of the old strictures gone, and with the recognition that Jesus had been, indeed, the Messiah. But one can never disregard the Commandments of God given to the prophets of Israel. Or the mass slaughter that God ordered against the enemies the Israelites. With the advent of the Israelites, several Middle Eastern peoples completely disappeared from history.So if you're going to harp on what Muhammad did to ONE Jewish tribe over a period of 24 hours, it weighs pretty lightly over what the Israelites and their prophets committed against their pagan neighbors over a period of several centuries.

          • ahmadnb

            The Jewish revert's name is Yaffa DaCosta and her writings used to be published in http://www.WorldNetDaily.com.

          • aspacia

            My point is that Judaism and Christianity's God called to the annihilation of certain group; Islam calls for the annihilation of all infidels like me and my brethren.

            Look, I do not care if you worship a rock, I really don't, however do not threaten me in the name of faith or for any other reason. Remember, you are dealing will freedom loving, gun toting people, those, according to history, eventually defeat the intolerant, totalitarians.

          • ahmadnb

            Who's threatening who here? Do I sound like I'm threatening you?

            I happen to be a freedom-loving individual myself. I can't carry a gun 'cause I'm not allowed to due to my residency status, but I hope that'll change in a years' time. And please don't lecture me on freedom…the country of my parents fought a bloody war of liberation for 9 months shortly before I was born. Pres. Nixon and his administration sided with and armed our enemies in that struggle (This was back in 1971), and lost big time. Many Americans were on our side. And gues who Nixon sided with? A bunch of Mullahs, that's who. Nixon took that defeat personally and never seems to have gotten over it. As for my people, we have been warning you guys of the dangers that these Mullahs pose to you, but none of you listened, until 9-11 took place. And now you're going to lump the likes of me with the Mullahs, the same ones that you armed, financed and trained over many decades against us??? Please.

            I welcome the fact that the US has finally decided to kick the Mullah's butts. But the US has been wishy-washy in this regard, at the best.

          • aspacia

            Ok, I give. We were focused on Nam, the Treaty with China, the date you cite is after operation Ajax. Do you mean Saddam? The Taliban aid was during the 80's. We have never been really close with Syria. There has never been a huge revolt in Arabia. Libya has only recently been taken off our sanctions list.

            I give, what country.

            Oh, you said you are a devout Muslim, but love freedom. Do you reject Sharia Law?

          • aspacia

            Chuckle, Christianity was very intolerant, and heretics were burned alive and tortured 500 or so years ago, then came the Enlightenment. My problem with Islam is that numerous Muslim call for my destruction, because I will not be made a second class citizen as most females have always been in any civilization. God help any man who attempts to control this feminist, and God thankfully gave me a strong, secure man who does not try to do so.

          • ahmadnb

            If any "Muslim" calls for your destruction, refer them to ME. I will deal with them accordingly…don't worry, I won't break any laws of the land. I'm not that kind of person. Just direct them to this forum so you can see any exchange that takes place between me and them.

      • aspacia

        So do I. What chapter and verse?

        • ahmadnb

          Book of Joshua, Chapter 10:

          28And that day Joshua took Makkedah, and smote it with the edge of the sword, and the king thereof he utterly destroyed, them, and all the souls that were therein; he let none remain: and he did to the king of Makkedah as he did unto the king of Jericho.

          29Then Joshua passed from Makkedah, and all Israel with him, unto Libnah, and fought against Libnah:

        • ahmadnb

          30And the LORD delivered it also, and the king thereof, into the hand of Israel; and he smote it with the edge of the sword, and all the souls that were therein; he let none remain in it; but did unto the king thereof as he did unto the king of Jericho.

          31And Joshua passed from Libnah, and all Israel with him, unto Lachish, and encamped against it, and fought against it:

          32And the LORD delivered Lachish into the hand of Israel, which took it on the second day, and smote it with the edge of the sword, and all the souls that were therein, according to all that he had done to Libnah.

          33Then Horam king of Gezer came up to help Lachish; and Joshua smote him and his people, until he had left him none remaining.

          34And from Lachish Joshua passed unto Eglon, and all Israel with him; and they encamped against it, and fought against it:

          35And they took it on that day, and smote it with the edge of the sword, and all the souls that were therein he utterly destroyed that day, according to all that he had done to Lachish.

          • aspacia

            Again, where does Christianity and Judaism call for the annihilation of all infidels as Islam does, and still preaches in the Middle-East? I often peruse MEMRI, Palestinian Media Watch, and Middle-Eastern media, and even the so called educated moderated like Joseph Massad have zero balance regarding Israel and Jews.

          • ahmadnb

            Where does Islam call for the annhiliation of "infidels"?? According to the Qur'an, Jews, Christians, as well as people from other religious beliefs can still attain Paradise in the Hereafter under certain conditions without converting to Islam beforehand. And if this was the case, there would have been absolutely no non-Muslims in ANY of the Muslim lands in the Middle East, and this is not the case.
            This Muslim has Jewish friends and is pro-Israel. Israel's destruction (God forbid) will not make things any better or easier for the Palestinians. But it sure would make things a lot worse for them.

          • ahmadnb

            At least, that's MY interpretation of what the Qur'an said…it was clear to me.

          • aspacia

            In most of the Middle-East, non-Muslims are forced to pay the jizia (sp) and cannot build or repair places of worship.

            I must prepare for work, but Jihad Watch has the Qu'ran and hadiths on his site. These were take from the USC.edu website before it was scrubbed of its more violent Suras.

          • aspacia

            Here is the link: http://www.jihadwatch.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/br0nc0s

            Extremist Islamist circles believe that these infidels must be fought by means of Jihad – and some feel that, in the context of Jihad, weapons of mass destruction may be used to annihilate them. They find support for their ideology in Islamic sources, such as Qur'anic verses, Hadiths from the Prophet Muhammad, and Shari'a.

            With all respect to Carmon, in calling for jihad against Jews and Christians, radical Muslims are not departing as sharply as he suggests from traditional Islamic theology. After all, Sura 9:29 of the Qur'an commands Muslims to fight against the People of the Book until they convert to Islam or submit as inferiors under Islamic rule: "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." Nor is this an isolated verse. As I show in Onward Muslim Soldiers, it is just one foundation of an elaborate theological and legal system that gives Jews and Christians the protected but inferior status that Carmon mentions only after they have been fought and subdued. This status does not, as he seems to assume, give them an exemption from being fought.

        • ahmadnb

          36And Joshua went up from Eglon, and all Israel with him, unto Hebron; and they fought against it:

          37And they took it, and smote it with the edge of the sword, and the king thereof, and all the cities thereof, and all the souls that were therein; he left none remaining, according to all that he had done to Eglon; but destroyed it utterly, and all the souls that were therein.

          38And Joshua returned, and all Israel with him, to Debir; and fought against it:

          39And he took it, and the king thereof, and all the cities thereof; and they smote them with the edge of the sword, and utterly destroyed all the souls that were therein; he left none remaining: as he had done to Hebron, so he did to Debir, and to the king thereof; as he had done also to Libnah, and to her king.

          • aspacia

            True enough, and the killing of one group by another for land and resources will always continue; the human condition has never changed. I do have a problem with the fact Islam has not progressed since 1400; and Christianity and Judaism have. Remember, Muslims have been exposed to modern thought, and often have been repelled by it. One Muslim was appalled that Queen Elizabeth was seen in public with "bare, naked legs."

            There is a huge culture clash. I realize that the burka was used long before Islam and is for protection, as is most Middle-Eastern attire, but currently it is used as a weapon of suppression and misogyny.

          • ahmadnb

            Actually Islam progressed a lot for the 1st 300-500 years, and then stopped, then went backwards.

            As far as Queen Elizabeth's legs are concerned, take a trip to St. Augustine, FL. North America's oldest European house still stands there. The ladies' mirror had a special mirror low to the floor; it was designed to ensure that a lady's ankles were not exposed. I found this out from the guide there and was stunned by it. Last time I checked, no Muslims ever lived in that house.

          • aspacia

            True, during the first 300-500 years of Islam.

            My point is this is a modern day Muslim, not a person from the colonial period. There were many restriction on women, we could not vote, own property, our near male relative controlled us, but that has changed. We have been able to own property and have not been legally controlled by our nearest male relative for a long time, but have only recently achieve economic civil rights starting with the 1960's protests.

        • ahmadnb

          40So Joshua smote all the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the vale, and of the springs, and all their kings: he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded.

          41And Joshua smote them from Kadeshbarnea even unto Gaza, and all the country of Goshen, even unto Gibeon.

          42And all these kings and their land did Joshua take at one time, because the LORD God of Israel fought for Israel.

          43And Joshua returned, and all Israel with him, unto the camp to Gilgal.

        • ahmadnb

          Need I go on? That was just one example. There are others.

      • aspacia

        According to Islamic true; according to other Jewish history, not true.

        Hum, are you a Muslim convert?

  • Ghostwriter

    "You go to the market and buy her…" That has to be one of the most appalling statements I've ever read. And to Margaret Sanger,did you even read that quote? Most civilized people would condemn that statement in a heartbeat. That's the sort of thing we're up against. Do you really want something like that in this country?

  • generalissimo

    Left-Wing-reality-deniers-muslim-appeasers:
    resume taking your meds. Take at least a bottle of oils per day. That way you may some day elevate your intellectual capacity to that of, say, a moron, and then there's hope for dialogue with you. As it is, your mendacity just kills the fun of a reasonable debate with arguments based on facts.

  • BH206L3

    Buy stock in H+K, Colt, FN, and ATK. Seems to me that in the end we are going to have to crush these people and I mean crush them. The Idea that you can just go and buy a woman and do what eve you want when ever you want is reason enough to shoot every last one of them.

  • RiverFred

    Read the Qur'an , there are instructions on how to rape woman.

    • jasonz

      that section is particulary soft for wiping my ass i found hahah i urge everyone to grab a koran and read it to learn how muslims are and then use it as tp…its avail in 2 ply now i heard

    • ahmadnb

      What verses? Please quote them. I haven't seen any…and I have read a reliable translation of the Qur'an multiple times cover to cover.

  • Python

    Margaret I'm sorry but I'd have to disagree with that comment. It may be the case in America but in the Middle East there are thousands of murders by muslims every single day and a huge percentage of those are against non-muslims. In Southern Indonesia there is at least 50 per month mostly beheadings by muslims. In Denmark according to stats released this last couple of weeks, 100% of rapes in the last 5 years have been by muslims against women of all religions. We must deal with this issue as it is. We must not pretend that it is ONLY radicals when the very books that this most odious of belief systems are based on specifically demand the deaths or subjagation of all non-muslims. We can pretend all we like but the reality is that we have a problem as bad if not worse than communism or nazi-ism.

  • Python

    Margaret- Our media avoids telling us the truth because we have allowed our laws and our leaders to become so PC that it has crippled us and "Tolerance' has made us accept anything. When once we said "Enough" we now justify as cultural and misunderstanding on our part. We are in trouble and NEED to recognise it. We owe it to our children whom if they do not submit, will be slaughtered in their thousands by the followers of Islam.

  • Aurelius

    MargaretSanger said: "Don't hate. Islam means Peace. Christians are in no position to say anything."

    What an ignorant, lazy and foolish person!

    Islam means submission to the Meccan Moon god Allah. MuhamMad was nothing but a rapist, a paedophile, a thief and a terrorist. Check the 1400 history of Islam, the Sira and the Hadith.

    • RobHoey

      and sanger was no saint herself. she was very disgusting

  • Sam B.

    The seven Noahide Laws were intended for all mankind, among which proscription against murder and theft. These were the early roots of the Decalogue, the Ten Commandments. And since the sons of Mohamed (I won't inclufe women since they are mostly chatels) break these laws, they are sinners in the eyes of GOd. They are evil, or to put it bluntly, they are emissaries of Satan who pretend their ideology is a religion, but it is really a rationalization for the basest instincts–murder, rape, slavery. I suspect that many Muslims by birth, would speak up against the savagery and barbarism of their "teligion" were it not fot he fear of being slaughtered. Satan comes in many forms. That;s his, Satan's– MO–serpent, the beauteous Helen of Troy, that evil looking bitch in The Passion of Christ. Margaret Sanger is a child who may somedfay grow up–but it might be too late. People scoffed at Hitler–a joke I'm WWII vet, still kickin', tho not for long–and for me it's Groundhog day…This generation is asleep.

    • ahmadnb

      Good grief, we have a wannabe scholar of history here.

      Chattels? The wives of Muhammad are held in high regard by ALL Muslims, particularly Sunnis (I am a Sunni). Aisha, the youngest wife, led her own army into battle!

      As for your allegations of "savagery" this was not a charge made against Muslims at the time…they were far more merciful when it came to dealing with the vanquished at each turn. Wars have always been brutal…and God put forth specific limits to what the Muslims could and could not do. Their enemies, on the other hand, acted with disgusting brutality in a way the the Muslims refused to…as was the case when the Muslims were defeated at Mt. Uhud.

      I know Satan. You won't know him if he stood in front of you. He has already blinded you. He's laughing at you.

  • Sam B.

    What was objectionable to my pro-Western <pro-Christian, anti-Mohamed, Satanic evil?

  • jasonz

    and we allow muslims to live because??? seriously! if we think that jesus is somehow gonna miricle their butts and stop them then you deserve to be raped slaves. we need to quit screwing around. we need to wipe islam out. slaves have no nobility and it s no honor dying because you are too stupid to defend yourself. islam must me destroyed…muslims MUST be killed. there is no reason or logic to not do it. this is how it works folks. sorry if it and i dont meet muster. but i would rather kill and die a free man, then live as a muslim slave. and if 'god' is gonna do something to stop them he better hurry up cuz i have no need of a useless god who wont even let me defend myself. death to islam!

    • ahmadnb

      What sanitarium did you escape from?

  • jasonz

    really? no islam means SUBMISSION. geez woman are you that blind. you have video of a prominent leader in ISLAM talking about how its ok to rape and murder. did that part escape you? of course you are named sanger a racist woman who thought people different than her should be eliminated. tell you what. put a pic of you on here then when your peaceful muslims dont need the useful idiots like you anymore and put you in their sex slave aution and rape you we will no not to help because they are 'peacfully raping you" woman you are too stupid to live no wonder you need the govt contolling your moronic self.

  • ahmadnb

    He's popular? How is it then that I never even HEARD of him? Where do you dig these fools up from? And why is it that you don't bring up those among us that can soundly contradict his so-called claims?

    • fmobler

      Let's here it. Contradict him — I think you mean refute him, but OK.

      I don't know if he is popular, but it wasn't hard to found him on islamtube, for example. Also he has 38 audio lectures on another cite that seems to be independent of islamtube. Some of your co-religionists think he needs an forum.

      As for why you haven't heard of a 'popular' Saudi cleric, I can't say. I am pretty sure there are lots of popular Christian preachers that I've never heard of.

      • ahmadnb

        So much for offensive Jihad. The following is a translation of Qur'anic verses:

        [2:190] Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.
        [2:191] And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.
        [2:192] But if they desist, then lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
        [2:193] And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers.

        • fmobler

          [4:89] Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them.What abrogates what?—

      • ahmadnb

        And, of course, so much for having your way with women. Check this out from the Qur'an:

        [4:22] And marry not those women whom your fathers married, except what hath already happened (of that nature) in the past. Lo! it was ever lewdness and abomination, and an evil way.
        [4:23] Forbidden unto you are your mothers, and your daughters, and your sisters, and your father's sisters, and your mother's sisters, and your brother's daughters and your sister's daughters, and your foster-mothers, and your foster-sisters, and your mothers-in-law, and your step-daughters who are under your protection (born) of your women unto whom ye have gone in – but if ye have not gone in unto them, then it is no sin for you (to marry their daughters) – and the wives of your sons who (spring) from your own loins. And (it is forbidden unto you) that ye should have two sisters together, except what hath already happened (of that nature) in the past. Lo! Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.
        [4:24] And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess. It is a decree of Allah for you. Lawful unto you are all beyond those mentioned, so that ye seek them with your wealth in honest wedlock, not debauchery. And those of whom ye seek content (by marrying them), give unto them their portions as a duty. And there is no sin for you in what ye do by mutual agreement after the duty (hath been done). Lo! Allah is ever Knower, Wise.
        [4:25] And whoso is not able to afford to marry free, believing women, let them marry from the believing maids whom your right hands possess. Allah knoweth best (concerning) your faith. Ye (proceed) one from another; so wed them by permission of their folk, and give unto them their portions in kindness, they being honest, not debauched nor of loose conduct. And if when they are honourably married they commit lewdness they shall incur the half of the punishment (prescribed) for free women (in that case). This is for him among you who feareth to commit sin. But to have patience would be better for you. Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
        [4:26] Allah would explain to you and guide you by the examples of those who were before you, and would turn to you in mercy. Allah is Knower, Wise.
        [4:27] And Allah would turn to you in mercy; but those who follow vain desires would have you go tremendously astray.

        • fmobler

          Thanks. You are the first to actually try to refute the cleric on Koranic grounds. I certainly believe your sincerity that you deeply oppose the things you said you oppose in another msg. This is not suprising to me. I know quite a few Muslims who feel the same way. But please read [4:24] again. The part about being permitted to marry your slaves is not easy to square with what I suppose is your genuine support of human rights.As for you not being afraid of being harmed for leaving Islam (also mentioned in another msg), that seems to be your fear, not mine, since I never mentioned it. But since you bring it up, how do you interpret the following? <p style=”color: rgb(0, 0, 0);”> Bukhari (52:260) – “…The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' ” <p style=”color: rgb(0, 0, 0);”> <p style=”color: rgb(0, 0, 0);”> Bukhari (83:37) – “Allah's Apostle never killed anyone except in one of the following three situations: (1) A person who killed somebody unjustly, was killed (in Qisas,) (2) a married person who committed illegal sexual intercourse and (3) a man who fought against Allah and His Apostle and deserted Islam and became an apostate.” <p style=”color: rgb(0, 0, 0);”> <p style=”color: rgb(0, 0, 0);”> Bukhari (84:57) – “[In the words of] Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'” <p style=”color: rgb(0, 0, 0);”> <p style=”color: rgb(0, 0, 0);”> Bukhari (89:271) – A man who embraces Islam, then reverts to Judaism is to be killed according to “the verdict of Allah and his apostle.” <p style=”color: rgb(0, 0, 0);”> <p style=”color: rgb(0, 0, 0);”> Bukhari (84:58) – “There was a fettered man beside Abu Muisa. Mu'adh asked, 'Who is this (man)?' Abu Muisa said, 'He was a Jew and became a Muslim and then reverted back to Judaism.' Then Abu Muisa requested Mu'adh to sit down but Mu'adh said, 'I will not sit down till he has been killed. This is the judgment of Allah and His Apostle (for such cases) and repeated it thrice.' Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed, and he was killed. Abu Musa added, 'Then we discussed the night prayers'” <p style=”color: rgb(0, 0, 0);”> <p style=”color: rgb(0, 0, 0);”> Bukhari (84:64-65) – “Allah's Apostle: 'During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, wherever you find them, kill them, for whoever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection.'” <p style=”color: rgb(0, 0, 0);”> <p style=”color: rgb(0, 0, 0);”> —

          • ahmadnb

            Thanks.

            As far as Qur'an 4:24 is concerned, marriage is a mutual pact and cannot be forced on anyone. There was one case where, in the aftermath of Quraiza, Muhammad took a Jewish woman captive. She ended up converting to Islam. Muhammad offered her marriage to him, and she refused. Muhammad then simply let her go free.

            I am not afraid of my fellow humans. I fear God only. I have more to fear from my fellow Muslims for being a strong Muslim AND being politically conservative/libertarian, pro-Israel as well as pro-GWB and anti-<censored for a good reason, trust me>. In fact, a good friend of mine left Islam back in 1993 when we went to college together (the move did not surprise me, since he wasn't a good Muslim anyway). He then tried to convert me to Christianity repeatedly but I always shot down his arguments. I figured that he won't remain a "good Christian" for long, based on what I knew about him, and I was right. Now he doesn't believe in Christianity, either.

          • fmobler

            Three points.[1] Your self-censorship is confusing and only makes the reader wonder what you do in fact fear.[2] I do not see how anything you said addresses the issue: Verse 4:24 includes the phrase “except what your right hand possesses.” You mention the highly disputed fate of Rayhana as some kind of counter-example about coercion, but don't bother to mention that she was a victim of the slaughter of her kin folk at Mohamed's hand (at least his direction). No matter what happened later, she was not under his influence by her own free will. Killing all of ones male kin seems pretty coercive from the git-go.[3] I am really not sure what point you are trying to make with your friend. I thought it was a story about your tolerance. Then it turned into a story about what a bad Muslim/Christian the guy is. I'm confused.—

          • ahmadnb

            As far as the Hadiths go, I have always been suspicious of them. These were written down over 100 years afer Muhammad had passed on. During his lifetime and after his death, it was FORBIDDEN to write them down. The 2nd Caliph, Omar caught some men writing it down and had them arrested. Muhammad didn't want them confused with the Qur'an and in no way wanted Muslims to substitute Qur'anic verses with his own personal sayings. His fears were justified…a lot of Muslims do just that. The one sure way to declare a verse of the Hadith to be false and therefore not authentic is to compare it with what is in the Qur'an. Thus I have strong reasons to believe that the Hadiths you quoted here are invalid, even though a lot of Muslims would argue otherwise.

          • fmobler

            Are you suspicious of all the biographies of Mohamed? If not, please tell me how you determine which stories to retain and which to disgard. If so, then how can you can rely on his claims to be a prophet? Either way, why do you suppose his earliest biographers (Muslims, every one) include stories of deeply disturbing behavior, such as ordering murders, taking slaves, telling his followers to take slaves and steal after killing the men, etc? The most reliable early biographies, by his own followers, do not make him out to be a decent human being.On another point: Since you seem keen to stress your conservative bona fides, what to you make of verse 4:11? May I assume you are male? —

      • ahmadnb

        I have no reason to abandon Islam. And I'm not afraid that "Muslims" might come after me if I do…I have, after all, committed a much more grave sin than to leave Islam.

        I am strongly religious but also strongly pro-Western. I switched from being a lefty to the right back in 1994 here in the USA. I supported George W. Bush's policies, but he was rather soft. I recognized Israel's right to exist within secure borders back in 1987, and abandoned support of the Palestinian right to self rule completely back in 2006; I switched to being pro-Israel and supported their war against Hezbollah. I refused to support the Afghan Mujahideen in the 1980s as I believed that they were a bunch of deranged Mullahs…and I was partially right. I opposed Hamas since 1987 because they wanted Israel destroyed.
        All this not in spite of being a Muslim, but because of my strong belief in the message of the Qur'an.

  • Mustaffa Moohammed

    Wow America, where have you been. We give asylum to all muslims. Any that overstay a visa , reach a border or get across illegally. Sure they keep some in the news that are deported but the vast majority stay and receive extremely good welfare benefits for this class. Christians on the other hand must do years of paperwork, get turned around at the border or when arrested are sent out. When America must open it's borders, arms and love towards ALL Christians from persecuted countries, we instead let our islamic bureaucracy give them the finger. BHO supports all islamic ideals even when detrimental to American interests. To murder non-muzlims is the highest calling of a muzlim and BHO does his part. Sure it is shaded and buried under media hype, but it is there and obvious.
    Demand that the borders open for all persecuted Christians from Iraq, Iran, Saudi, Egypt and so on. An extremely easy test will guarantee that no muzlims wear dresses and slip in. Make them swear allegiance to Biblical values and swear that moohammed is a liar, pedophile, and they wish him to live forever in hell. Not so drastic when you balance their religious beliefs that we ALL MUST die, be child sex slaves or be slaves.

  • Sayitaintso

    This is why this religion needs to be outlawed and the Muslims done away with. They are basically animals.

    • aspacia

      No, all free people should be allowed the freedom of faith as long as they do not impose on others.

  • sayitaintso

    This is nothing but a false religion spawned by Satan. Mohammed basically tooks parts of the Jewish text and the Bible and rewrote it to look like him. This is Satan at work.

    • green p

      Satan hates all things of God. So if the Jews are his chosen people , then who do you think Satan persecutes and hates most. If Judism and Christianity are God's religions, then what do you think the corruption of them are… ISLAM. What religion says turn the other cheek, and say "let he who is without sin cast the first stone", and which cuts your head off because you drew a cartoon. Islam is Satan's religious response to God.

  • Maria

    Who is Margaret S? Is she muslim or she is on their payroll? Or she stupid and not able to see reality? It is statistic that Muslims killed Muslims much more than any other ethnics/religious groups at all. Did "Margaret" heard about Muslims women "honor killing"? Or about "honor raping" their own family member girl who "betrayed family honour"? How about killing gays: it is shari'at law. List is endless…Muslims blow up themselves not only in Christians, Jewish, Buddists or Hindy states but even in Muslim countries: in Turkey, in Egypt, Indonesia, etc. People like "Margaret" either Muslims agents on thier payroll or deranged helpful Idiots.

  • fmobler

    Let's have a little lesson in statistics, shall we. Others have already pointed out the multiple category errors you make, so I won't repeat that. Let's just work on the numbers.

    By "most serial killers" you must mean "most serial killers in America" since there is no reasonable way to get numbers for the entire planet. I'm even willing to ignore the obvious fact that your "most" is not based on actual data. So, suppose we grant you that the claim is true (it is not, but again, others have done a good job of pointing that out). Here is you statistical error: we should expect most ice cream lovers, most cat haters, most broccoli farmers, to be "white Christians." In short, by your faulty understanding of the words "white" and "Christian", most Americans with any characteristic you like will turn out to be "white Christians." This tells us nothing.

    If you were (a) to correct the silly errors of conflating "Christian" with "being raised in America" and (b) to take a sample world-wide, you would come to a completely different conclusion. Inconvenient for you, I know. Sorry for hating on you by pointing out a glaring deficiency in your analytic skills.

    Do you have the slightest idea of what the incident of serial murder is in, say, Canada, Mexico, Viet Nam, India, Morocco? No. So how do you claim that most are white Christians. I can commit the exact same fallacy as you have by boldly claiming that most serial killers world-wide are not white and are not Christian. Again. This tells us nothing.

    Now, let's expand the definitions a little (you have played that game, so I suppose I can too). Margaret Sanger was not a Christian (she was white, so I suppose she is just half-evil in your book). She is one of the chief architects of the eugenics movement which was documentably the justification for thousands of forced sterilizations, secret experiments on African Americans (Tuskegee, being the most famous), forced abortions and so on. Many African Americans who know the history regard the eugenics theoreticians lie Sanger to be mass murderers. Now, admittedly they weren't "serial killers" simply because they found that serial killing is inefficient. Better to parallelize the process.

    Again, widening our scope beyond the parochial American context (not that I'd accuse you of jingoism), the history of mass murder makes it clear that, in shear numbers, atheists win the body count.

    Then again, perhaps you are being more subtle than I credit you. Perhaps you are accusing white Christians of being too stupid to realize that serial killing is a bad route to the history books. If someone wants to be remembered, she is better off starting a anti-Christian political movement that promises to rid the world of its inferiors and pests.*

    * I follow the current guidelines on non-sexist language by alternating between "she" and "he". Sorry it was her turn to be insulted.

  • Sheila

    Folks, after reading Margaret Sanger's posts, I've come to the conclusion he (yes, he) is just baiting. He doesn't believe half of what he wrote, he's just trying to get a rise out of everybody. Ignore him, and he'll get his pleasures lesewhere.

    • Sheila

      Oops, that's elsewhere.

  • Diane

    ahmadnb -We don’t get these fools,Islam creates them by the millions.We are waiting for your contradictions.Feel free to demonstrate with any proof you can find.Your other comment is a bit garbled but:”It was a form of punishment that God Himself ordered the Israelites to carry out against their enemies” if god said it then you should have no problem with the results.Is there any record that exists to demonstrate a masacre in Jericho that exceeds enslaving,forced conversions and raping of thousands of women and children and beheading all Jewish males old enough to have pubic hair?How does this pertain to this article about a fanatical freak? Islam is a political,sexist,racist entity hiding behind religion.
    Muslims held Vlad Dracul II as a political prisoner when he was a child.They forced Islam on him and trained him as a warrior ,he used that training in future battles and revenge-called impalement.Muslims kidnapped children and forced them to convert and fight.:The Mamluks were mainly ethnic Circassians and Turks who had been captured as slaves then recruited into the army fighting on behalf of the Islamic empire.Jannisaries were kidnapped boys from the Balkans.The vast majority of todays muslims are descendants of slaves,forced conversions and prisoners. Stop the reviisionism and lies.

    Lastly:”We have a religion, message, morals and principals that we want to carry to the people as God ordered us,”
    Who do you think you are?
    What country that you have invaded has invited you to immigrate,revise their laws and teach your beliefs too?
    Who do you think you are to deem your god and religion superior?
    Who do you think you are to move into countries and abuse the social systems,educational system,demand your choice of lifestyle and commit endless crimes?
    The world does not care what your god or Muhammad said.Only your people do,if anyone wants to join they will go to the middle east.Believe in anything you want but stop pushing it on others.If you immigrate then adapt.You eat,wear,work and obey laws like the natural born citizens.You are not superior,special or blessed.
    Muslims are the most disrespectful,rude,pushy,self-righteous,hypocritical,deranged cultists i have met.Your historically false,criminal supporting,pre-historic religious laws used to degraded and subjugate people are not acceptable in evolving,free socities.

  • Tasmanian Man

    the fact is these scum need to be exterminated ad hoc, report from the Police cheif in Norway that in the last 5 years every, yes every case of rape before the courts has seen a muslim man charged with the crime. its time to stop beating around the bush and exterminate these extremist scumbagsthroughout the western world.

    • aspacia

      Do you mean all extremists? Do you mean all Muslims? Be careful.

  • RobHoey

    and I don't mean to pee in your soup but Islam does not mean "peace" it means "submission." It is not a religion of peace as anyone who has read the koran and hadith will assert. you are obviously practicing taqiyya, which is lying for the sake of islam–a religion that hates Jews, loves a pedophile fake prophet, and is the most intolerant religion of the world. Peace? You're a joke

  • GuyMacher

    Please cite the New Testament verse condoning murder. Islam means submission not peace. Your Arabic is obviously in need of more schooling.

  • aspacia

    LMFAO. Not so in the Middle-East where it is santioned to be a serial murderer of nonMuslims or Muslims of the wrong sect.

    Islam means submission. Oh, and Sanger was a eugenic proponent like Hitler.

  • David

    Islam does not mean peace. It is obvious you have no clue on the Arabic script, and are parrotting wishful Islamic or Western apologists. it means "surrender" (pure and simple) i.e., (or else die.) Salaam is Peace, the opposite of what the so-called prophet preached.

    No amount of sugar coating by Islamic thinkers can change that. The so called "prophet" meant business. He killed anyone who did not surrender to Islam. Or he had the tribes of infidels plundered, raped and destroyed. Look at Sadaam, Asaad, Ghadaafi, they follow Islam very well!

  • generalissimo

    Oh yeah! If violence is the only thing they understand, violence should be the only thing they get. Quick and simple, no trial or jury, no spending taxpayers' money. They are as unworthy of consideration as trash or faeces, just flush them down and be done with it. We cannot fight these people with human rights, freedom of speech for only certain groups, "debates" in which their religious representatives refuse to participate and an anti-american political class absolutely bent on running America back to the Dark Ages it never dwelt in.
    If we were still in WWII, would there be any political correct madness, soiling our worldview and clarity of purpose? NO! We win, they lose, that's the deal. No matter what it takes. This is one in which the ends DO justify the means!

  • aspacia

    Be specific! There are many patriotic U.S. Muslims like Jasser.

  • GracieZG

    Surely you see the satire in "Margaret Sanger" pronouncing you a racist. The sense of humor is a bit dry, but it's there all the same.