The Battle of Wisconsin Rages On


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Appearing on NBC’s Meet the Press yesterday, AFL-CIO Richard Trumka was given two golden opportunities to do the very thing the left claims is so important to them: tone down violent, incendiary rhetoric. He couldn’t bring himself to do it. Asked to condemn the angry words and images that union supporters have employed in Wisconsin, Trumka chose to dance around the question instead:

“We should be sitting down trying to create jobs,” he said. “In Wisconsin, a vast majority of the people think this governor has overreached. His popularity has gone down. They’re saying to him, sit down and negotiate; don’t do what you’ve been doing. So he’s losing.”

Even if one were to accept the dubious premise that Governor Scott Walker is “losing” his battle with the teachers union in Wisconsin, Trumka’s answer is at once disingenuous, troubling and typical of the leftist mindset. The disingenuous part is obvious: Trumka never actually answered a question that was posed twice. Imagine how the old media would have reacted if a conservative leader like Sarah Palin or Rand Paul sidestepped an opportunity to denounce violent rhetoric on the right.

What’s troubling, though sadly unsurprising, is what this reveals about the way a leftist leader like Trumka thinks. Asked to denounce a tactic, he comes back with an answer that implies that such tactics are working. Trumka doesn’t actually come out and say that the end justifies the means, but it’s pretty obvious that he feels that way. Far from discouraging leftist protestors from employing violent imagery and rhetoric, Trumka’s answer sounds an awful lot like a nod of approval for the results that those tactics have supposedly achieved.

But the “do as I say, not as I do” leftist mindset has been on full display as long as the standoff in Wisconsin has continued. The left says that public discourse ought to be civil, unless it involves a position that’s important to the left, in which case anything goes. Teachers unions are always demanding more for their members in the name of the best interests of the kids they educate, but they don’t have a problem orchestrating what amounts to an illegal strike when the union’s interests are threatened. Elections and majority rule are wonderful concepts on the left, until they lose an election and are in the minority. In that case, running away and hiding so that you don’t have to accede to the will of the majority is perfectly acceptable. If the battle of Wisconsin proves anything, it’s another demonstration of the self-serving hypocrisy that permeates the left in America.

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  • Steeloak

    The reason that the labor rallies were so sparsely attended is that it is hard to have your rent-a-mobs bussed in at more than one or two places at the same time. There just aren't that many goons to be had.
    The Tea-Party on the other hand, has had massive rallies all over the country on the same day, something the unions can only dream of doing.

    • Dennis X

      Well there was over 100,000 in Wis. never saw anything regarding the tea baggers. Maybe they couldn't get a ride due to the agitators the gov. wanted to infuse into the crowds. Why don't you post some pictures of the t-baggers in action.

      • Supreme_Galooty

        Hey, Doofus. The Tea Party is not a party. There are no dues. There are no officers. Those people (approximately 20 to 40 percent of whom are Democrats) are your friends and neighbors – a disorganized group of taxpayers fed up with the legalized thievery perpetrated by the "ruling class" and their union masters. You are pitiful.

        • Dennis X

          First, lim-d the discussion involed who showed up or didn't show for rallies this pass weekend. Learn to understand content before you reply. Second, t-baggers are connected to billioners ( the koch brothers) My friends and neighbors are not baggers they actually work for living. And a flash , so I'll write slow for you, we are ALL taxpayers!!! You screw us out of our pensions and see if we pay property taxes for instance. Get a life!!! Still haven't seen any proof of the t-b rallies.

          • Steeloak

            If you had read what I said, then you would know that I was comparing the 70,000 Union Goons who showed up in Madison to past T- Party rallies (like those on April 15th) where crowds of anywhere from 1,000 to 30,000 people protested in nearly every city in the country. I've been in the T-Party from the begining & I never heard of the Koch brothers until the leftist media started blathering about them. The 15,000 that turned out in my town last April were all local folks, organized by local people. You want proof – just google it, It is not my job to teach common facts to the ignorant.

          • Dennis X

            Maybe you should read what you write, you stated, "the reason the labor rallies were so sparsely attended"etc. I gave you a web site that showed over 100,000( pictures) in win. I know your not that educated but over 100,000 is not sparsely attended. Instead of bagging and crying about what other have , get a job!!!

          • Steeloak

            The sparsely attended rallies mentioned in the article were at Labor rallies nationwide, not just the one in Madison.
            The 100,000 figure you mention is from far left web sites. The local paper provided the 70,000 number. Again, Big Labor, the National Democrat party, & Organizing for America had to pull out all the stops to bus in this crowd from across the nation. The first rally only had 25,000 show up. It took a week of national organizing to get the 70,000 there.
            The Tea Party people responded to a Facebook site put up on Thursday a week ago & had 10,000 people there Saturday a week ago. It is a losing battle for big government unions, the people will prevail.

          • Dennis X

            A fact is a fact, sorry you can't handle it.

          • Supreme_Galooty

            Hey, Dummy. You should go back to school and sue your teachers for malpractice. Your grammar and spelling are prima facie evidence of a sloppy mind. (That causes your credibility to suffer.)

          • Steeloak

            If you had read what I said, then you would know that I was comparing the 70,000 Union Goons who showed up in Madison to past T- Party rallies (like those on April 15th) where crowds of anywhere from 1,000 to 30,000 people protested in nearly every city in the country. I've been in the T-Party from the begining & I never heard of the Koch brothers until the leftist media started blathering about them. The 15,000 that turned out in my town last April were all local folks, organized by local people. You want proof – just google it, It is not my job to teach common facts to the ignorant.

  • DogWithoutSlippers

    MoveOn was saying in emails, "Wow, we had 50,000 people
    in cities all over America come out and support the union!" I'd
    say to that thug Trumpka…….."Move On." There is no power in
    your numbers. The People know that dues collecting government
    must stop. You know they will turn it violent and ugly, but in the
    end the power of union thugery will be over.

    • Dennis X

      Check out the Huffington Post, they have pictures.

  • geez

    Mr Trumka appears to be quite fat and happy. I'll bet he doesn't want to give up his posh lifestyle, reminds me of most the politicians in Washington.

  • http://www.therepublicrevealed.com/ Victor Laslow

    Do the Wisconsin State Senators remind you of the spoiled kid who said it’s my ball and if I am not the pitcher I am taking my ball home so no one can play? http://www.therepublicrevealed.com/forums/index.p
    Victor

  • Gislia Jackson

    Look–sadly, for the job they are supposed to do, teachers are not well compensated. I say, "supposed to do." The teachers we have today, for the most part, are idiots who could not survive in the private sector. Pay teachers for what they should be doing–teaching kids–and pay them well. Get rid of the unions, and institute merit pay so teachers with brains can earn what they deserve. Let the "democrat" teachers teach the democrats who will never learn, and pay those teachers minimum wage. Let the "republican" kid be taught by "republican" teachers with brains.

    • Jim_C

      In your formulation, republicans therefore (naturally valuing hard work and achievement) must have academically high-achieving kids, while democrats (freeloading lazybones) don't. Not only is that mean-spirted to the bone, no stat in the world back up this nonsense. It's pretty unfortunate, but also common, for someone like Gislia to have such a distorted, wrong-headed take on the country's children but again it points to the relative rarity of critical thinking skills when it comes to education.

      • Gislia Jackson

        Uh, "republican" is a metaphor in this instance, as is "democrat." We're not allowed to use certain words anymore without the pc police kicking down our doors. What I meant to convey is that certain "types" will not and can not ever achieve beyond a certain level, so why waste "grade a" teacher talent on them, when they will get the same results from someone who is content to merely show up and collect a paycheck? Plenty of stats, if you care to look at them, will back up the fact that "republicans" have an average IQ of 100, while "democrats" have an average IQ of 85. Of course, I will buy the argument that having "democrats" reside in the same general location as "republicans" has has some non desultory effects on their general intelligence–the average IQ of "democrats" in the motherland is somewhere around 70. You can check out The Bell Curve for those stats. I don't think it's mean spirited to suggest that resources, which are becoming more and more limited, not be wasted trying to teach an inner city "democrat" to do algebra when he's simply incapable of doing it. Let him learn a trade, like we used to teach them in the old days. Was in mean spirited of Booker T. Washington to teach the students at Tuskegee to make furniture, or to be maids? Was good old Booker T. mean spirited and racist? No, he was a good steward of resources, and a realist.

      • Dog Soldier

        You moron. What is mean spirited about letting idiot teachers teach idiot kids? Would you rather have idiot teachers teaching our best and brightest?

      • Clint

        BTW–Call Me Mr. Jackson, Boy

    • Supreme_Galooty

      It has been pretty thoroughly documented that the ranks of teachers are made up (generally) of the bottom third of all college graduates. They tend to be nice enough people if they don't become arrogant, at which point their arrogance becomes an embarrassment – not merely annoying. That they are abject failures at "education" is sadly obvious when one examines their "production." Lots of self esteem to go around for everyone, but very little in the way of reading, writing or ciphering skills. Today's graduates cannot read, are ignorant of history, and generally happy-go-lucky imbeciles, thoroughly indoctrinated and woefully educated.

      • Jim_C

        Another frivolously fanciful post, galoots. Once again, if your child is illiterate–YOU failed.

        What's the difference between our education system, and Japan/China/India/Denmark (or whatever superior education system you want to throw in)? (by the way, all are public systems)

        The difference is the societal value placed on education. I challenge you to find a more significant factor then parenting. You can't.

        "Product?" If I send you crappy lumber, your house is gonna be a crappy product no matter how hard your crew works. Meanwhile, my high-quality lumber ensures my crew has far less difficulty making a high-quality end product.

        • Gislia Jackson

          What about Germany, democrat jim? they don't spend diddly on their schools, and they still rank at the highest end of the testing curve. Do they spend on teacher's unions, and having the latest technology in the classroom? No, their schools are falling apart, but the german kids still plug along, as would republican kids in the US if we provided a blackboard, books and republican teachers. "Republican" is a metaphor, if you haven't got that already. We are not allowed to use the "W***e" word any longer, thanks to the pc police.

  • sneed5

    Events like this one and those in Indiana and Ohio will test our mettle to see if we have the guts, will, and determination to shuck off the socialistic parasites that are sucking us dry! Hang in there, Walker, Kasich, Daniels, Kristie, and constituents!!!

  • WhiteRose

    No, the toning down of the ugly words never stop with the liberals…..but they sure expect it from the conservatives. It's going to be a long, hot summer w/gasoline prices going up, w/unemployment going up & no jobs for the young.

    • Jim_C

      I can't believe liberals don't like it when their child's teacher is called a "socialistic parasite."

  • Larry

    I'm just curious. All the municipal employees out protesting while everyone else is out working, Are they using sick leave Or paid vacation days. One way or the other you can safely bet they are getting paid.

    • GypsyTyger

      If they are using vacation days that is time that belongs to them to use as they please.A vacation day is taken out of the employees vacation bank when he or she uses it. It is not free time. Vacation time is accrued as the employee works.They earn x amount of time for x number of hours worked.They exchange time from their bank in exchange for time off.When they get 8 hours off they now have 8 hours less in their time bank.They are not getting a free day.

  • crypticguise

    Trumka is what he is – a Thug! The citizens of Wisconsin and the United States aren't going to put up with his crap. The only way to deal with political thugs is to destroy them politically. Best way to do that is by refusing to be intimidated by either these union thugs or the socialist-Democrats members of their union/s.

    The party is over, Trumka! You are getting your ass beat, metaphorically of course, by your outrageous behavior and the entitled attitude of your member. "…shame, shame, shame…" Who do you think you're talking to?

  • BLJ

    Walker needs to stand his ground. These "protestors" will soon get tired and find some other bogus cause to go after. They are used to people caving in right away.

    Call a bluffer's bluff I say.

  • Supreme_Galooty

    I recall a teachers' strike a few years ago. One of the signs read, "Descent Wages For School Teachers!"

    I thought that to be a perfect picket sign.

    • Jim_C

      It's no "Keep your government hands off my Medicare!" but it's pretty funny, I guess.

  • USMCSniper

    quoted by Michael Walsh in yesterday’s New York Post, Franklin D.Roosevelt said:

    "All government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public-personnel management. The very nature and purposes of government make it impossible for administrative officials to represent fully or to bind the employer in mutual discussions with government employee organizations. The employer is the whole people."

  • GrouchyOldSoldier

    Sorry, Proudscott, but a beginning teacher starts at about 1/3 the pay of anyone with the same education in any other field. They quickly discover that they are expected to buy much of the materials used to teach out of their own pockets (Roughly $450 in Arkansas). They also find they are expected to pack more work hours into the school year than other workers do into a calendar year. Finally (But not last) they find that any promotions after tenure depend on taking more classes in their own or a related field paid for, yeah, at their own expense.
    By the was, only North Dakota pays starting teachers less than Wisconsin.

    • Gislia Jackson

      No offense, but–you're right about starting pay. I went into the grocery business after graduating because I started off making about $5,000 more a year than a beginning teacher. I realized at about the age of 30 how badly I had screwed up–beginning teaching wages are low, but they increase incrementally and automatically over the course of your career. And, I say "wah" to the canard about having to take extra classes. Once you've earned your master's degree, you get a $5,000 raise per year. Having said that–you're right that talented teachers can get a better deal in the 'real world.' But tell a semi illiterate "democrat" s/he can have a job for life, with poor starting pay but guaranteed raises every year for pretty much the rest of his/her life, and you can see why more qualified "republican" teachers simply give up and move on. Ask yourself this–back in the 70's, when I was in elementary and grade school, we had quite a few elderly teachers. I certainly do not see many of them these days. Most of my high school teachers retired before they hit fifty. All power to them–but I am not crying a river over them being undercompensated. Having said that–I live in MS now, and teachers' wages here are pretty slim. What I was referring to was teachers' wages on the left coast. I'm not picking a fight here–I acknowledge your point about salary. But–it does not cost that much to take a few grad courses to keep your license, or to get tenure. And you can pretty much take any easy course you want. I remember quite a few dumbass teachers in the english grad seminars I took while working on my MA–"what, we have to turn in a twenty page seminar paper at the end of the semester?" shock and awe. Teachers these days are scraped from the bottom of the barrel, and the biggest reason is because of unions, and the requirements that good teachers be paid the same as bad teachers.

  • ebonystone

    High wages for teachers is only part of the problem of public education. Another part is the proliferation of non-teaching jobs in the school systems: loads of counselors, advisors, teachers' aides (whatever they are), assistant principals, etc. Larger school systems generally have a well-paid department that exists solely to keep track of the latest federal educational programs to see if their system can qualify for any federal hand-outs. So local tax-payers are funding people whose job it is to grab taxes paid by people all over the country. Everybody would save if we'd just get rid of both the federal programs and the local drones who try to take advantage of them.

  • NJK

    I wish this guy would end up like Hoffa. How's that fatso.

    • Amused

      I think if you said that to his face , the situation might be the reverse of what you wish for,
      brave internet warrior

  • DrBukk

    This is a suggestion for the state of Wisconsin. To get the protestors out of the Capital, stop up the sewers. That is how Salvador Allende drove all the wealthy homeowners out of their houses and confiscated them for the state in Chile. One beautiful mansion blew up when the owner lit a cigarette.

  • Wesley69

    There is no right to collective bargaining. It is not a fundamental right in the Constitution. It is granted by government. It can be taken away by government. At a time, it was needed. But even FDR recognized the danger of government employees organizing.

    In Wisconsin, when there was collective bargaining, the teachers union sat at the table, Democrat politicans sat at the table.

    Where were the taxpayers??? They were suppose to be represented by the government, but the politicans were only to happy to vote higher salaries, perks and pensions, all paid for by the taxpayer. In return, the politicans got votes, union endorsement and campaign money.

    So, I ask, is this a fair system???? Naturally, Labor says Governor Walker is trying to break the unions. I would say, Walker is representing the Wisconsin taxpayer, who now sits at the table. It is time to bail out the taxpayer.

  • Amused

    Stupid is the building block of the Universe – Frank Zappa

    Everyone's bemoanig and handwring about the state of our economy . And rightly so . Strange though …the "politicians , their hacks , apprpovers,and sycophants turn their attention and BLAME , on state workers , and then start cursing the very workers who taught their children to read , and those same WORKERS , who DON'T get paid overtime or BONUSES for the hours spent AFTER working hours ,preparing lessons , projects , marking papers , calling parents , and as another poster above stated ,BUYING SOME ELEMENTARY schools supplies themselves -while those who ACTUALLY got us into this mess , sucxceed in CHANGING THE SUBJECT . Yera that's right , they have lobbied away any corrective measures that are required to prevent another debacle like the one we just got into . So you think it was state workers eh ? Really ! Not the out of control bankers , Wall Street brokrs and traders who BROKE THE LAW …..and still get bonuses , obscene salaries …..oh wait …but you call THAT capitalism , the American way , as you rail against the teachers and unions as communists and marxists out to destroy the country .

    • GKC

      "Now who you jivin' with that Cosmik Debris"?

    • Supreme_Galooty

      Are you drunk?

      • GKC

        Are you a building block of the universe?

        • Supreme_Galooty

          Hard to tell by the way they do replies, but that question was directed to Bemused.

          • GKC

            Sorry about that. I was only trying to be funny and assumed you were too.

    • nightspore

      You don't sound too amused today. Let me get this straight. It's the out-of-control bankers who are driving states like Wisconsin into bankruptcy? How exactly does that work? Or is the problem that your switch-the-focus-of-the-argument tactics are too well-ingrained to give up even when they don't make sense?

  • Amused

    Well GUESS WHAT HYPOCRITES ….those same Banks , Traders , Insurance Firms , with all their "financial products " , derivitives which get triple A ratings from fims like Moody, and other crooks ,who know the numbers are cooked but play the game and decieve giving phony ratings nonetheless , lest "they be left out " at the troff where the pigs feed , they're at it again , right under everyones noses , especially ALL your elected officials . Who are STILL doing NOTHING to correct what went so obviously WRONG . But hey ,you got teachers to denigrate , state workers to belittle and insult , unions to curse and revile . Well Public Opinion is not going your way , and it coming from people in both parties . So keep making noise in your echo chamber , and we'll see what happens , when these Republican Governors are going to HAVE to compromise …yea what a word .

    • coyote

      Problem for you, is that it is working, tee hee. Public opinion is against the public sector workers, teachers and organized labor in general. Each day that the legislators stay away, they hurt the teacher's case. Hope they continue it, tee hee.

    • bumr50

      Where is this "troff" that you speak of? Where are they getting their money?

      The government has no money. Your pension (if indeed you are a public sector union member) is paid for BY private taxes paid by corporations and individuals. These corporations that are so vilified by the morons in Madison sleeping in the capitol building (mostly unemployed wastrels attending college who've never worked anything more than a part-time job in their life) will simply cease to do business if your demand to tax the crap out of them is realized. They have no obligation to exist. The individuals that pay your salaries, pensions, etc. are either self-employed or work for these corporations that you so hate.
      We live in the greatest nation on the planet, and it became that way through capitalism. It is the guarantee of opportunity and NOT the guarantee of equality of outcome that has allowed us to excel. NO ONE is "entitled" to anything except opportunity in this great nation.

    • Gislia Jackson

      "troff?" You must be a big fan of George Bernard Shaw. "Ghoti = Fish." Learn how to spell, loser/unionista.

  • Amused

    Coyote …lol…you must be reading the Fox "reverse polls " . …no surprise there huh ?

    • coyote

      Another poll, by Rasmussen, reveals that 46% of those surveyed view unionized teachers as a negative thing, as opposed to 37% who view unionization of teachers as positive.

  • Amused

    Keep on mis-identifying your enemy Burn50 , and I'm sure you have the lumps on your head to prove it . Not to mention they did it to you [if your old enough] twice in the 80' s , atleast once in the 90's , the 2000 dot com bust and finally 2008 . You didn't see nuthin' eh Burn 50 .Oh pathertic little man , no one "hates" big buisines , that's simply another of your sides parroted rhetoric , I simply know that when someone's peeing on my head , it aint raining . Better get your raincoat genius because these same "pigs at the troff " are doing it again , and have successfully diverted the attention of the emotional dullards of this country and got you chasing your tail .

  • Amused

    And what was that ? You mention nothing is guaranteed , that the "equality of outcome " is not guranteed ? What an utter load of BULLSHEET ! Of course it's not , especially when when you're playing this situation we find ourselves in . The cheaters get caught , and what happens ? NUMBSKULLS come to their defensde wrapped in the flag extolling the glory of capitalism . . Well Capitalism IS A GREAT SYSTEM , but are YOU dumb enough to think what brought us to this point was capitalism ? And then you ramble and babble on about what ? Taxes ?
    Man , get an education , you're a sycophant to your demagogues , capable only of parroting their words , just another talking head . So keep on knocking heads with those you think are your enemy , and the REAL CROOKS will ,and ARE again ,stealing you blind …and oh you will pay taxes , because the crooks already bought your politicians , Tea Party included .

    • coyote

      So is "equality of outcome" guaranteed if we were not playing in "this situtation we find ouselves in"? I don't know if the "crooks" already bought my politicians? Let's say they have, what difference is it than when the crooks buy your politicians. What endowes them with any more virtue?

    • Gislia Jackson

      My god, man–did you flunk out of school in the second grade? Use spellcheck, you inbred moron, or climb back up the stairs into your uncle's attic until he upgrades to Windows 3.1. Lord almighty, you look like an idiot, dude. I must tell you–educated people in this country expect other people to be educated. That means that you should be able to spell as well as a child in fourth grade. I'll give you some slack–I expect other posters to be able to punctuate at a fifth grade level, but I'll let you slide with fourth. You still fail. Use spellcheck, moron.

    • Gislia Jackson

      Hey–are you "birdman," who hangs out at the racist site chimpout.com? Just wondering if you've gotten back on the sauce, birdman.

  • Supreme_Galooty

    Besides being a smartass, this Bemused character is either a chronic drunk or an imbecile. Diarrhoea of the mouth, verbose to the point of embarrassment, and completely disjointed rambling are his stock in trade. His retarded grammar and spelling are indicative of an extremely sloppy thought process. What a magnificent jewel of colossal ignorance.

    • Dennis X

      Maybe one of these days you'll make a point on the topic.

      • Amused

        Dennis X
        Maybe one of these days you'll actually be able to escape your narrowmindedness , and shake of your Obama Derangement Syndrome , and actually think straight , possibly even think for yourself . Until then you remain a sycophant .

        • Gislia Jackson

          Define "Obama Derangement Syndrome." Also, where is The Magic Negro even mentioned in these threads? I don't see his name mentioned at all. Methinks, you suffer from "Capitalist Derangement Syndrome." Also, please be advised that you are stealing a phrase from the right–obviously you are claiming "Obama Derangement Syndrome" from the "Bush Derangement Syndrome" people. Please be advised that you are plagiarizing, just like your beloved Dr. King did on all of his written work.

    • Amused

      Bootygalooty , what do you think you're doing ? If you dont like what you're reading , dont read what I have to say . the hypocrisy here is no better or worse than I find with the Leftier blogs . Jerks like you just lack the ability of introspection . And that is understandable for most of your lot have 5 minute memories which prevents you from seeing yourselves.Its no wonder you're blind to your own hypocrisy .
      And sorry about the spelling , I dont use spellcheck ,but your tiny mind gets the meaning , don't it ?

  • Amused

    Unmitigated GREED facilitated by politician whores who sold us out , Bankers , Investment firms run hog wild , breaking laws , tossing fiduciary responsibility out the window , while Fed. "regulators/watchdogs" turn their heads away from the orgy . So they wreck the economy, nearly bring about another Great Depression , Huge Companies go belly-up, millions lose their jobs , life savings , and retirement ….SO LETS BLAME THE JANITORS , lets blame the Unions , lets accuse them of being commies and marxists , but WORSE , let let those traitorous bums who got us into this mess, go scott free and start doing it all over again . Pathetic !

    • Jim_C

      Kasich, Ohio's current governor, raked in the dough at Lehman Brothers getting Ohio's pension fund invested in Lehmans. He made his millions, got out, and we all know what happened next.

      And now this guy is blaming the people who collect the pensions! It's actually mind-boggling that these guys are able to pull the wool over so many people's eyes. "Get neighbor fighting with neighbor" seems to be the game plan.

  • kafir4life

    Isn't it weird……dumpyka actually DOES look a lot like hitler! Look at the face and mannerisms. It's uncanny.

    • Amused

      Yea , lack of intelligence requires assinine aspersions . If they dont agree call'em "hitler " -"commie " -"marxist " – "socialist " – or " eeeevil " .. You guys are so predictab ly ignorant .

  • GKC

    Here is an interesting take by a gentleman who farmed and taught at the same time:
    http://www.victorhanson.com/articles/hanson022511.html

    • Jim_C

      "Sure, teaching is hard, but not as physically demanding or dangerous as migrant farm work."

      • GKC

        Reading is hard, isn't it?

        • coyote

          Apparently, not as hard as thinking, if your comment is any indication.

          • GKC

            Thanks for making my point sucker.

          • coyote

            Yeah, maricon, certainly no thought went into your comment.

  • Jim_C

    Some are underpaid. Some are grossly overpaid. If chewing into unions fixes that, I'm all for it. But let's not confuse teaching with luxury. I'd much rather sit in a boardroom and walk around a golf course than spend 180 days with 90 middle school kids.

  • Dennis X

    No Dennis is my name and the X is because I work around low lifes like you. A communist, no, born in the usa I'll out for myself!

  • Amused

    lol…."good refute " .

    • GKC

      Thanks.

  • Marti

    These people are not just leftists, they are communists.
    I'm speaking of course about the union leaders.
    The protesters are being used as tools to create chaos to further the cause.
    My parents lived through the Hitler regime I know from my parents exactly what is happening in our once great nation.
    I am so saddened the people of this country will not face up to the fact, if we do not take action, we will fall.
    Wake up folks, before it is too late, if not already so.

  • gislia jackson

    Most liberal teachers are socialistic parasites. I would think they would be proud to be called that, democrat jim. "Barrack Hussein Obama, um um um." They are proud to walk off the job and let someone else–taxpayers–pay for their protesting, instead of teaching. They are proud enough to attempt to brainwash their students into supporting their socialistic dreams. I noticed, democrat jim, that you responded to one of my posts, then slunk off to your dem cave. What's the matter? Come back and thrash me, democrat jim, with your superior thought processes and democrat logic. Put me in my place. Let the world know I'm an ignorant cracker, democrat jim. Or STFU.

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