Libya and the Soros Doctrine

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United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973, which authorizes a no-fly zone over Libya and the protection of civilians by all means necessary, is the culmination of a decade-long effort to radically strengthen the ability of the UN to intervene in sovereign nations through the “Responsibility to Protect” (R2P) doctrine. Behind the initiative are, unsurprisingly, some of the usual suspects: National Security Council adviser Samantha Power and her patron George Soros. Their call to prevent human rights abuses through military intervention masks an agenda to alter drastically the concept of state sovereignty and to allow the United Nations to essentially co-opt the US military.

A 2008 backgrounder produced by The Heritage Foundation on the Responsibility to Protect articulates one of the most dangerous aspects of the doctrine: “R2P would effectively cede U.S. national sovereignty and decision-making power over key components of national security and foreign policy and subject them to the whims of the international community.” What we are seeing unfold in Libya today may very well be a test case for this doctrine: the United Nations has “borrowed” the US military to enforce its idea of Gaddafi’s “responsibilities.” And one question of grave concern is: Might the UN also “borrow” the U.S. and other Western militaries in future to impose its will on member states it feels are not living up to the UN’s nebulous idea of state responsibilities?

Before we examine the ingredients of this potentially catastrophic scenario, a bit of historical background is necessary. The Responsibility to Protect doctrine, which is deliberately nebulous and ill-defined, is not new. In fact, Hitler’s intervention in the Sudetenland was justified by “humanitarian reasons.” Hitler’s propaganda machine created mass hysteria in Germany by falsely accusing Czechoslovakia of carrying out atrocities against ethnic Germans. Hitler negotiated with Neville Chamberlain on the basis that he was only going to intervene to save lives. Chamberlain may not have bought Hitler’s lies, but Munich occurred nonetheless.

The doctrine was applied sporadically for the next 50 years because military intervention of any kind during the Cold War risked nuclear confrontation. Although the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan was justified by Moscow as a “humanitarian” endeavor, there were few other cases.

Once the Soviet Union disappeared, a host of situations occurred in the 1990s that drove debate in the United Nations toward accepting the use of humanitarian intervention to stop governments from killing their own people. The ad hoc nature of these interventions gave an opening to individuals who wished to codify UN intervention into international law. Most of these same people also recognized humanitarian intervention as a means of vastly strengthening the UN, while weakening the sovereignty of nations.

The history of Responsibility to Protect bears this out. The International Commission on Intervention and State Sovereignty (ICISS) was formed out of the UN Millennium Summit in September 2000 with a mandate “to promote a comprehensive debate on the relationship between intervention and sovereignty, with a view to fostering global political consensus on how to move from polemics towards action within the international system.”

The ICISS issued a report in December of 2001 titled “The Responsibility to Protect” that encapsulated “the Commissioners’ views on intervention and state sovereignty and their recommendations for practical action.” The document was sent to the UN for debate and approval.

At the UN, a firestorm broke out over the R2P concept (now the official name of “humanitarian intervention”), largely divided between the industrialized West and the impoverished South. The former colonies only saw a legal way for Western powers to invade them, while the West — including the United States — viewed R2P as a potent weapon to prevent another Rwanda.

The ICISS was chaired by Gareth Evans, former foreign minister for Australia, whose thoughts about the report and sovereignty in particular bear looking at in detail. Mr. Evans sought to turn the debate on sovereignty “on its head” by “characteriz[ing] it not as an argument about the ‘right’ of states to anything, but rather about their ‘responsibility’ — one to protect people at grave risk.”

That “responsibility” is to be defined by the United Nations. Mr. Evans envisions a world where sovereign nations are hardly “sovereign” as we understand the term. Indeed, Evans is seeking nothing less than a brand new definition of sovereignty — what he calls “a new way of talking about sovereignty itself.” The starting point, he says, is that sovereignty “should now be seen not as ‘control,’ as in the centuries-old Westphalian tradition, but, again, as ‘responsibility.'”

No “rights.” No “control.” At least Mr. Evans is willing to let nations keep their borders — for now — although that may also be under threat from R2P. One can imagine the United Nations taking the US to task for trying to keep millions of illegals from crossing our border: We have no “right” to keep hungry, desperate people from seeking a better life. Might our border policies also violate the R2P doctrine? Indeed, such an argument is already being made.

In 2004, the Secretary General Kofi Annan set up a blue ribbon committee to examine the ICISS findings and issue a report to the United Nations. The Panel on Threats, Challenges, and Change swallowed the “new” definition of sovereignty while recommending R2P be adopted as a matter of policy and law. Their report, “A More Secure World: Our Shared Responsibility,” recommended that it be the responsibility “of every State when it comes to people suffering from avoidable catastrophe, mass murder and rape, ethnic cleansing by forcible expulsion and terror, and deliberate starvation and exposure to disease.”

In other words, “responsibility” has morphed from the 1990s concept–which entailed that it is up to the world community or voluntary coalitions to intervene where necessary to protect innocents–to a set of rules that sovereign nations themselves must satisfy the United Nations or the hammer will fall.

In direct violation of its own charter, the UN has set itself up as the arbiter of where sovereignty begins and ends, tossing aside Article 51’s “inherent right to self-defense” clause. The Office of the Special Adviser for the Prevention of Genocide at the UN makes this clear. The individual state’s idea of sovereignty takes a back seat to the UN’s judgment: “Sovereignty no longer exclusively protects States from foreign interference; it is a charge of responsibility where States are accountable for the welfare of their people.”

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  • jaythehistorian

    Even if these evil Nazis like the worm Samantha Powers were to manage to get the UN to intervene against Israel, Israel is too powerful militarily to be threatened by the UN. Israel is much much stronger than Libya . The Gaddafi Libyan regime has been able to fight off the efforts of Little Britain, France , and the US to assist the rebels . Israel has 300-400 nukes, has the 4th most powerful army (according to and is the world's fourth leading exporter of weapons. I doubt Western Europe, despite their obvious bias in favor of Arab terrorists, have the desire to tangle with Israel, and may not even have much capability of intevening. The US, despite currently having the Black Hitler soiling the WH with his presence , would ever support using US armed forces against Israel.

    • alan g

      these are political posturing games that are being played. there is no telling what an Obamo administration sanctioning of r2p can do, to destroy any israel ties. a very scary situation.

    • Raymond in DC

      Being capable of confronting a force flying the R2P flag and willing to suffer the consequences of doing so are two very different things. Yes, Israel with its subs, its missile boats and its very capable air force could quickly send British and French forces to the bottom of the Med. They could even threaten serious damage to the US Sixth Fleet. But is that a realistic option? Economic sanctions, seemingly bloodless at first, would impact Israel's major markets without firing a shot.

      Moreover, if the US were to threaten to use force against Israel, millions in the US would mobilize to protest. The Congress too. But what if the US leadership didn't care, assuming that if Israel *dared* to defend themselves against US forces and the latter took casualties, those protests would melt away?

      The irony of this Arab "wet dream" is that an Israel not just abandoned but threatened by former allies would be an open invitation to the Arab nations and Iran's proxies to join in the rumble, as Israel would be deemed defeat-able. And that's an invitation to a regional war.

  • timespost

    What else should happen before we understand how dangerous is the UN and do something about it.
    See here what needs to be done:

  • Amused

    Dark Doctrine ? Soros ? Really ? Talk about SPIN. This same "dark doctrine" is what got us into Iraq , and now Libya – OIL ! In Libya's case -Europe's oil . So the U.N. , is now falling in line . What will the U.N. do when Assad Jr. starts slaughtering his citizens ? What did it do with Iran ?

    • tagalog

      The difference between President Obama unilaterally committing U.S. forces to a U.N. initiative and President Bush consulting with Congress and obtaining Congressional approval for the wars with Iraq and against the Taliban in Afghanistan is pretty self-evident. The two (three) are hardly the same thing.

      • Zivkov3000

        Except that the rebels were about to be crushed within days had Obama not intervened. Conservatives were already complaining that Obama hadn't launched his bombing campaign immediately after the uprising had begun, allowing Gadhafi to gain the upper hand. Do you have any idea how long it takes to push anything through congress?

  • Amused

    Dark Doctrine indeed . It's called avarice …..MONEY . Wanna call it "Soros " ? Democracy ?
    OK , if that makes one feel better .

  • Rifleman

    Gee, they didn't feel any responsibility to protect the Iranians or Burmese Karens.

  • geez

    I hope the UN starts trying to push Israel around like a third world country. If they push too hard Israel will strike and strike decisively no matter the aggressor. But what a shame the US is being neutered from the inside by Progressives, this Muslim Brotherhood President and his communist administration. They should move to Cuba where their dream is a daily reality. I guarantee within 90 days, the ones still alive, would all be on a handmade raft trying to get back to the US.

  • claspur

    Read this earlier this am. (a Must Read)

    • Dan

      Absolutely. Great piece. "Islam came straight from the Arabian desert of the 7th century. It reflects the lives of desert pirates, robbers, rapists and genociders, which was perfectly suited to nomadic life in the desert. That's how tribes conquered each other, as Lawrence of Arabia found out again in World War I. Desert Arabs literally took no prisoners — except for women and children, who became slaves." — James Lewis, American Thinker (and "…a worldview that has a religion."

  • JosephWiess

    The United Nations cannot trump national interest, or national defense. If we need to preemptively strike at an enemy, then we need to be able to do that without having to go through the Useless Nations. We are a sovereign nation and elect senators and representatives to work on these problems.
    With his going into libya, without a declaration of war, Obama has once again violated the constitution.

    • sneed5

      WHAT ABOUT US?? You are absolutely correct!! POTUS has read the story of the camel, the Arab and the tent and is noting how far he can push us. He will push us and finally we will awaken and find us outside the tent, with the UN and their masters owning the tent!! But, what can we expect? I wonder how many of us have notified our U.S. Senators and Representatives of how we feel! It does't do any good just to talk the talk and not walk the walk. It is impossible for our Congressmen to read everycorrespondence, but they do count numbers.

  • USMCSniper

    Firing missiles, from miles away, at young Libyan soldiers, who were defending themselves against an internal rebel uprising, killing untold thousands, without Congressional authorization, and without a formal declaration of war, is not only cowardly, but constitutes a war crime punishable by impeachment. The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to

    (1) a declaration of war,

    (2) specific statutory authorization, or

    (3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.

    Operation Odyssey Dawn is an unauthorized use of military force. There was no formal declaration of war. There is no specific statutory authorization. There was not a national emergency created by an attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces

    • Zivkov3000

      You realize that the United States hasn't issued a formal declaration of war since WWII. By this standard every single American president since Franklin Roosevelt would have been impeached.

      • Stephen_Brady

        I can't think of a single instance of the use of force, since WWII, where Congress did not authorize that use of force. That's what is different about this action in Libya. Congress did not authorize anything, and Congress … Constitutionally … has the war-making power.

        • Zivkov3000

          How about president Reagan's bombing of Libya in 1986?

          • Tarantula

            Direct response to the bombing of the La Belle disco in Berlin, ordered by Gaddafi and aimed at US servicemen. Falls under #3.

        • trickyblain

          -The invasion of Grenada
          – The invasion of Panama (Congress notified 5 hours beforehand, never authorized use of force)
          – Dispatch of personnel and aircraft in central American anti-drug operations (throughout 80's and early 90's)
          – Operation Desert Fox

          This, disturbingly, is more the norm than the exception these days. Especially in "limited" bombing operations where no boots are on the ground. The main difference now we have insane morons call the CiC "black Hitler."

  • jacob

    GHADAFFI might be a monster and there is no question about it but, would you
    prefer al Quaida and/or the Muslim Brotherhood or is it, exacly like with OBAMA's
    "CHANGE" a strict jump off the frying pan and into the fire ???

    What does the ANNOITED ONE and his gang know about the rebels ??
    Seems one of their commanders is a known GITMO ex-guest

  • Steve Chavez

    Obama is putting in danger of a REVENGE ATTACK! Friends who became enemies will now become friends again to team up against their new enemy, THE UNITED STATES AND BARACK OBAMA/Hillary Clinton!

    Don't you think Mubarak is extremely bitter and Gaddafi is even more extreme as two rockets now have hit his compound in an attempt on his life? Now add Yemen and what to do with Bahrain and Jordan! If you watch Obama's Cairo speech very carefully on youtube, you will see that Obama is revealing how to overthrow these governments through extremism while he was warning against it! Please watch it around the five minute mark. I'm sure Mubarak has and sees the look on Obama's face and body movements!

    Look for a REVENGE attack against the U.S. and Obama will be the reason why!

  • Anaroha

    Samantha Powers, her boss Soros, her husband Cass Sustein, her other boss Obama, believe are going to make come truth their anti Israeli dream under the UN costume??? They need to convince the world Israel became genocidal against Arabs??? Are they crazy??? How can they believe people is so stupid!!! What a nut ideology!!!

    • Dan

      Yes. And don't forget in the mind of the whack jobs Israel is "The Little Satan" and America is "The Great Satan" (goes for both the anti-capitalists and the Islamo-Nazis). Israel and the U.S. are being wrapped up in the same perception shell that the genocidal sociopaths want to do away with.

    • sneed5

      I agree with you 100%. What do you suggest we do about it? I'm ready!!

      • Anaroha

        Talk talk, and talk!!! Do not stop to explain it, to everyone, everywhere… We need to alert about the Progressive Left ideology, the extreme Socialism, the Fabian, working as partners with the Nazi radical Islamic , against Capitalism, against the Western Civilization, working against the free world, that means against Israel which is the only democratic society in the Middle East. The UN include both antisemitic souls, adding a supra international pretensions .

    • ziontruth

      Much of the world is already convinced that it would be justice to liquidate Israel (God forbid). The Marxist Left (the majority of the Left today) and the Islamic world are already securely in that place and need no persuading. The Marxist/Islamist Unholy Alliance is poised to bring the world to war. Note: I'm not saying that's what's going to happen, only that the pieces are in such a position as to make it possible.

  • Stephen_Brady

    Once again … and how many times must it be said? … get the US out of the UN.

  • Leo

    Th truth is the International Left is determined to take control of humanity by any means necessary and R2P is one
    of their latest scheme. R2P is noting more than sanitized version of 20th century Hitlerism or Stalinism, It seems to me that they didn't learn anything from the 20th century's devastation and destruction themselves had initiated, furthermore they are willing to repeat it again even if it results in WW3. The Irony of his is that the left willingly annihilated million of people at the same time it pretends to protect human life.

    • ziontruth

      Nazism, Marxism and Islam–all are political movements that have no respect for national sovereignty. All are, because of this very fact, threats to the liberties we enjoy, freedoms we have as a result of keeping things local, not letting them rise above the level of the nation, a level above which cohesion can be kept only through a grip of steel.

      You know Jefferson swore on the altar of God to stand against any tyranny that threatened mankind. The tyranny in the last two centuries or so has been manifest in internationalist and imperialist movements. International law, international political organizations, the international "community"–all these concepts need to be swept down the dustbin of history. The sovereignty of nations, and the idea that each nation has a right to self-security in its own nation-exclusive state, are the ideals that need to be adopted by anyone who wants liberty and prosperity to survive. Internationalism of any kind needs to be criminalized, or at the very least its upholders ostracized.

  • Amused

    LOL…the ONLY difference between Iraq and Libya is the fact that a Democrat pushed the button . " Consulting Congress " is a strawman argument .LOLOL….and Gee ! USMCSniper !! You almost had me in tears forGaddafy and his Army . You know what ? You oughta get a room with Newt Gingrich .

  • trickyblain
  • Vinod Mehta

    Is it possible to steal the name of UNICEF, UNDP, UNFPA, IMF, ILO, IFAD and UNHCR etc which are United Nations organization and use it as a business enterprise? Any sensible or responsible individual will immediately say, no! But, such stealing of the name of United Nations organization has taken place in one of the South Asian countries, and the matter has already drawn the attention of bosses in UN.

    The International Fund for Agricultural Development (IFAD), a specialized agency of the United Nations, was established as an international financial institution in 1977 as one of the major outcomes of the 1974 World Food Conference. The Conference was organized in response to the food crises of the early 1970s that primarily affected the Sahelian countries of Africa . The conference resolved that “an International Fund for Agricultural Development should be established immediately to finance agricultural development projects primarily for food production in the developing countries”. One of the most important insights emerging from the conference was that the causes of food insecurity and famine were not so much failures in food production, but structural problems relating to poverty and to the fact that the majority of the developing world’s poor populations were concentrated in rural areas. IFAD is dedicated to eradicating rural poverty in developing countries. Seventy-five per cent of the world’s poorest people – 1.4 billion women, children and men – live in rural areas and depend on agriculture and related activities for their livelihoods.

    Few years back, name of this United Nations organization has been stolen in Bangladesh by a group of people and surprisingly enough, none of the officials at UN office in Dhaka ever raised any objection to this, nor did they bring this matter to the attention of United Nations head quarters or Bangladesh government. Look into this website IFAD how some Bangladeshi businessmen are continuing to register IFAD as several business entities. And most office of the Registrar of Joint Stock Companies, which is under Ministry of Commerce is continuing to issue incorporation certificates to various enterprises using the IFAD title, which is in fact a patent right of United Nations. It may be mentioned here that, names of United Nations organizations are patent rights of it and no one can use any of the names and titles or logos of these UN organizations for any other purpose. On the other hand, all the United Nations member states are obliged to protect the right of such organizations in their respective countries.

    Bangladesh greatly benefits from various United Nations organizations on a regular basis. On the other hand, Bangladesh is one of the top participants of United Nations Peacekeeping forces, where hundreds of members of Bangladesh Army and police are working in different countries. Service in United Nations Peacekeeping is considered to be a very lucrative opportunity for most of the member countries, especially those economically disadvantaged nations.

    The person who has stolen the name and title of the United Nations organization is no one but the elder brother of former army chief of Bangladesh , who earned criticism at home for misusing the name of UN in seizing power from a constitutional government in a bloodless coup. While seizing power, General Moeen U Ahmed told people that he received calls from envoys of some powerful nations telling him that they would request the United Nations to withdraw Bangladeshi peacekeepers if the army cooperated in holding the election. Here is a relevant link. Later, envoys in Dhaka as well the United Nations denied this fishy claim of the Bangladeshi army chief.

    Iftekhar Ahmed Tipu, who is the owner of IFAD Group in Bangladesh , is the elder brother of General (now retired) Moeen U Ahmed. After the military coup in Bangladesh in 2007 under the leadership of General Moeen, IFAD Group managed to received millions of dollars as loan from various financial institutions including Trust Bank (owned by Army Trust), Rupali Bank (state owned), Sonali Bank (state owned) etc. This business enterprise became visibly aggressive in expanding various projects taking the advantage of unique situation in the country, where fundamental rights and human rights were largely abused and democratic institutions virtually squeezed by the military dictator. It is even alleged that office of the IFAD Group in Dhaka turned into the unofficial headquarters of the military dictator in summoning businessmen, editors and politicians with the ulterior motive of extracting money from them through various threats.

    General Moeen U Ahmed has the ambition of becoming a long-term president of Bangladesh right after he seized power in January 2007 and with this blueprint in mind, he continued to attack political parties, politicians, editors and civil society members. Leading politicians like Sheikh Hasina (current Prime Minister and head of Bangladesh Awami League, which is regarded as a secularist party) and Khaleda Zia (leader of the opposition and head of Bangladesh Nationalist Party). He even pushed eminent media personalities like Anwar Hussain Manju, Atiqullah Khan Masud, Saber Chowdhury, Salman F Rahman, Nurul Islam Babul, Enayetur Rahman Bappi and several professors of Dhaka University with various lame excuses. It is even documented that after illegal takeover of power, General Moeen was giving secret support and funds to several Islamic militancy groups like Harkatul Jihad (Huji), Hizbut Tahrir etc.

    The issue of stealing the name of IFAD, a United Nations organization should be taken into serious consideration of the authorities in Dhaka . Hopefully the UN office in Bangladesh as well as its headquarters will also come up with their clarification on this matter.

    • Fida Kamal

      Thanks Mr. Vinod Mehta for this important information on stealing of the name of an United Nations organization in Bangladesh. Such information should have been published as news instead of comment, because of its importance.

  • trickyblain

    Okay….those aren't on the list above and were all long-term engagements.

  • Raymond

    Social Engineering Bill In Senate Will Force You Into City

    September 10, 2010 by Bob Livingston

    A social engineering bill to restrict residence in the suburbs and rural areas and force Americans into city centers has passed the United States Senate Banking Committee and is on the fast track to passage in the Senate.

    The bill is called the Livable Communities Act (SB 1619) and it was introduced by corruptocrat outgoing Senator Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.). It seeks to fulfill the United Nation’s plan Agenda 21, adopted at the Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro in 1992 and signed onto by “New World Order” President George H.W. Bush.

    This bill is designed to destroy your community. According to the non-profit American Policy Center the bill:

    • Is a blueprint for the transformation of our society into total Federal control.
    • Will enforce Federal Sustainable Development zoning and control of local communities.
    • Will create a massive new “development” bureaucracy.
    • Will drive up the cost of energy to heat and cool your home.
    • Will drive up the cost of gasoline as a way to get you out of your car.
    • Will force you to spend thousands of dollars on your home in order to comply.
    A carrot and stick policy will be used to get your local government to sign on. The carrot is billions of dollars in grants available if your local government agrees to amend zoning laws that restrict housing in outlying areas, forcing people to give up their homes and land and move into the city center.

    The stick will be denial of the funds and bad publicity generated by “Green” organizations criticizing government officials for turning down free money.

    The rub is the grants will come with strings attached that force local governments to bend to the will of the Feds.

    The idea of these social engineering initiatives is to force people to live in a congested area in high rise buildings with housing on the upper floors and stores on the bottom. The whole area will be linked by mass transit creating the “utopian” communities loved by socialists.

    The result will be higher costs for housing (because overcrowding will make housing space a premium) and goods and services (because of less choice and competition) and less freedom to move about (because cars won’t be necessary and parking space will be prohibitively expensive).

    As we pointed out here President Barack Obama is — not surprisingly — an advocate of this type of nonsense. And his cabinet is populated by elitists who think they know better than you how you should live.

    It is imperative that you call your two Senators immediately and tell them to oppose Dodd’s SB1619.

  • Raymond

    1. Where is the United States in Bible Prophecy?
    One of the most common questions regarding Bible prophecy is where is the United States in scripture? Many nations of the world are not mentioned in scripture, however it is hard to understand how the world's most powerful nation would not be. At least not in a way that we recognize it clearly.

    There are many theories and ideas as to why this is but here are three of the most common:

    • The United States is no longer relevant
    • The United States is destroyed
    • The United States is no longer its own country – but part of a larger union of nations – possibly controlled by the Antichrist.
    All of these responses are based on speculation. We simply do not know the answer but it is very possible there may be some symbolism that the United States may fit into. We must simply watch and wait to see what God's plan for America is.

    America is also Israel's closest ally. God promises to bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse Israel (Genesis 12:3). America's relationship with Israel will be closely watched.

  • Raymond

    3. A Revived Roman Empire

    Daniel, Chapter 2, presents the dream of Babylon’s King Nebuchadnezzar, which provides the basis for our understanding for history’s final system of government. Daniel interprets Nebuchadnezzar's dream which reveals that the fifth and final world empire would have some association with or be an extension of the fourth empire – Rome. Passages in Daniel 7:7-8 and Revelation 13:1 describe a beast with ten horns. The prophets Daniel and John apparently saw the same beast in their visions, the beast symbolizing ten heads or ten kingdoms. It is this number of 10 that we want to keep a close eye on.

    We will monitor the development of the world's newest superpower emerging from Europe and the region of the former Roman Empire which includes not only Europe but much of North Africa and the Middle East. The EU would seem to be a leading candidate for the final world empire – but the number 10 will have to somehow be reconciled. Issues surrounding the EU constitution and the EU/Mediterranean partnership agreement will be watched for possible relevance to Daniel's prophecies as well as the development of other nation alliances in this region that may equal the magic number of 10.

    It is from this final world Empire that the man we call the Antichrist emerges. He is alluded to in scripture as the Assyrian and may have a Muslim/Middle Eastern connection that many have overlooked.

  • Raymond

    4. The Gog/Magog War

    Ezekiel 37-39 describes a time when Israel has been restored to her land but will then face an invasion force from a country in the north and her allies after God puts hooks in their jaws. Those countries are listed by names we don't recognize today but many scholars believe they have identified where those people groups were once from. The following are the most common interpretations for those countries:

    MAGOG is believed to be modern-day Russia and should also include Kazakhstan (the area north of the Caspian Sea).

    MESHECH can include the southern part of Russia by the Black Sea, as well as Georgia and Armenia. Some believe Turkey could also be included.

    TUBAL is a part of Russia between the Black and Caspian seas. It also includes the Ukraine and Kazakhstan and possibly Georgia and Azerbaijan.

    PERSIA is modern-day Iran.

    ETHIOPIA (or Cush). Some consider that other surrounding areas, such as the Sudan or Eritrea, could also be included.

    AND LIBYA (or Phut).

    GOMER may include the Ukraine. Some believe it may also include the area SE of the Black Sea, such as Georgia. Some believe this may also be a reference to Germany.

    THE HOUSE OF TOGARMAH OF THE (far or remote parts of the) NORTH QUARTERS may include Armenia. Many believe this will also include Turkey,

    AND MANY PEOPLE (or nations) WITH THEE. This may indicate that there will be yet other nations allied with Russia that are unlisted. It may be noted that Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, and Jordan are not mentioned.

    Russia is no longer the superpower it once was and while it may be hard to see such a scenario happening today, it is no more difficult for God to accomplish than He did the recreation of Israel as a nation in 1948.

    Ezekiel 39 would also seem to indicate the use of nuclear weapons in this conflict as specific instructions are given on burying the dead, including specialists who do this.

    We will continue to monitor Russia's relations with Israel. Iran, one of the nations mentioned is also important to keep an eye on in light of its mutual assistance treaty with Russia. Israel has threatened to attack Iran if it continues with is nuclear program – this very well could be the hook in the jaws that draws Russia down. Another nation to keep an eye on is Turkey as it is currently Israel's ally but relations have deteriorated greatly as of late. If Turkey is to be involved in this invasion it would be a great dupe on Israel or things could change quickly in this Muslim country. The nuclear arms race in the Middle East continues and could play a factor in this conflict.

  • Raymond

    6. The Rise of Islam

    Islam is one of the fastest growing religions in the world. Demographics studies indicate that it could soon become the dominant religion in many European countries. Very few Christians understand Islam and it's impact on the people and societies that it governs.

    Sharia law does not permit a Muslim to leave the faith and to do so means stiff penalties, jail time and even death in countries such as Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. Radical Islam's hatred of Israel and the West will be monitored as well as it's potential role in Bible Prophecy, especially the desire by many Muslims to see the reestablishment of an Islamic Empire or Caliphate. What role will Islam play beyond the traditional Ezekiel 38 scenario? Will it be connected to a Revived Roman Empire or the EU? Will the Antichrist be a Muslim?

    • Fred Dawes

      People do understand what Islam is but will not stop evil out of fear of PC Inside europe.
      The europeans will pay with a great holocaust as we will inside the so called USA, With more and more third world people coming to once great nation this world that we live in now will within 20 years become a hell on earth.

      A new evil age will become normal place until the sun become dark and dead, it is not the muslims who did this evil it is all who would not stand up and say no more evil and did not say, "I STAND WITH THE IDEALS OF LIFE AND LIGHT OVER THE IDEALS OF BLACK AND DEATH".

  • Raymond

    7. Increase in Knowledge/New Technologies

    Studies have suggested that the amount of human knowledge is doubling every 8 years. Some of the technologies that are emerging will no doubt have a role to play in Bible Prophecy.

    Revelation 13 describes a mark, in the right hand or forehead that will act as not only a form of allegiance or worship, but enable people to buy or sell items – in fact you can't conduct commerce without it. When you hear comments by the head of MasterCard that microchip implants under the skin could be used for commerce – you can't help but see the path we are on. The recent approval of the FDA for implants under the skin for medical purposes will no doubt play a role in this emerging trend. The increase of RFID technology also presents some amazing possibilities in terms of commerce and tracking technology.

    Revelation 13 also mentions the ability of an image of the Antichrist – to somehow come to life and speak. With cloning and other advanced computer technologies it seems there is nothing man can't do.

    We will continue to monitor new technologies and their impact on prophecy.

    • Stephen_Brady

      Interesting series of posts, Raymond.

    • Jim_C

      I think it is always appropriate to look to the Bible for guidance, but errant and possibly even narcissistic to see biblical prophecy as having to do with our specific era. Scholars have made compelling cases that the author(s?) of Revelation, for example, was really making an allegory regarding Rome. For many centuries, people have thought the "end was near" and interpreted prophecy to fit their own times–why should we be any different?

      • Jim_C

        I remember during the Cold War how all the prophecies focused on the USSR; now, they are focusing on Islam. It all seems rather self-centered.

      • Raymond

        it's clear that you have zero understanding of God's word.
        I'm not going to waste my time & energy trying to explain
        it to you. Read God's word, the King James Bible.

        • Jim_C

          I always find it amusing when people say they "don't have the time to explain" something when what they really mean is "they don't have the intellectual ability" to explain something.

          Truth is, I've forgotten more about God's word than you'll ever hope to know.

  • BLJ

    Maybe it is about time for Soros to meet his maker. This guy is pure evil and an enemy to not only the United States and Israel but the rest of the world.

    • Amused

      Whaddya gonna do about him BLJ ?

  • topperj

    The world will never be safe as long as the U.N. exists.

  • Amused

    LOL…you noticed that too ?

  • scotsirish

    We have the UN thanks to Alger Hesssssss.__
    A solviet spy brought this for US.
    We have no place in the UN.
    The UN has no place here on our soil.
    It is a blight on US and will only become more and more of a UNcontrolable problem..

  • Stephen_Brady

    Did anyone notice Obama's use of the phrase "It was my responsibility to act …", with regards to the Libyan operation? Kind of proves Rick Moran's credibility in writing this article, in my opinion.

  • highcottonquinn

    Neocons support intervention in Libya. Neocons haven't seen a war they don't want to get involved with. Liberals are only for intervention when they're the ones doing the intervening.

    • Amused

      Yea , when Obama does exactly what republicans would do …………republicans say the opposite , after trying to eat their words from the day before ,a very large herd of Newt Gingrichs . Republicans keep pretending that no one knows what HUGE HYPOCRITES they are . It's no wonder brainless people like Palin and Bachman , are a big hit .

  • Amused

    Did you mean his " responsibility to act , " as the Leader of the "Dark Soros Plot " ?

    • Stephen_Brady

      Does the shoe fit? And if it is a "dark Soros plot", Soros will be the leader of it. Obama would be his pawn …

      • Amused…and so would you stephen , because you're so GULLIBLE.

        • Stephen_Brady

          I was so gullible when I was squeezing on Victor Charlie in 1968-69. At least, I wasn't high on pot in Haight-Ashbury, and "amused" …

  • Amused

    Aside from the fact that either Democrat or Republican Admin. would have done the SAME thing [ proof is Republicans were calling for a "No Fly Zone " before Obama acted ] , and most likely , the majority of opposition , would have been voiced by Democrats themselves , now I'd like to see what everyone's gonna do about Somalia and its pirates …..what would the "Soros Doctrine " have Obama do ?

    • Stephen_Brady

      Yes. A NO FLY ZONE. Not bombing raids, which put us on the side in a civil war that we know nothing about.

      Did you hear that Obama didn't ask Congress for authorization, by the way?

      • Amused

        Did YOU hear [BTW] how loud the right was screaming that he should put a No Fly Zone over Libya ? Did you also know that he didn't have to ? Why should he follow the protocols of Bush Sr.and Jr . …..look where in the hell they got us .

        • Stephen_Brady

          Yes … some people on the Right. Not all. And what they wanted was a No Fly Zone. Not ground interdiction, bombing raids, et al.

          Bringing up the Bush Card, are we? Note that it is OBAMA who is doing the BOMBING Libya. The Bush Card is almost wron out, in case you haven't noticed. Libya is Obama's War, based upon Obama's vision of the world.

  • Jim_C

    Classic, simply classic, trickyblain. Well done!

    Check, and mate, FPM!!

  • Jim_C

    I'm just waiting for the Dark Lord Soros to give me my marching orders. Soros, take me away!

    • Stephen_Brady

      Be careful what you ask for, Jim!

      • Amused

        WOOOoooooooo, Yea Jim ……..Stephen_Brady says so . Dont worry Stephen , you just keep that tin foil hat on and you'll be safe from the clutches of that EEEeeeeevil Soros !!

        • Stephen_Brady

          You know, you really ARE amusing …

  • Keith

    The UN is not using American resources, don't be so naive; they are in there because they want to be. The USA, British, and French are in there to safeguard and expand their decade long interests in Libya. It is the culmination of interests lining up with appropriate circumstance.

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  • Ryan Wilson

    The parallel you draw between Chamberlin’s appeasement doctrine and U.S. Cold War reticence is complete rot. Whist open war between powers was avoided, proxy wars were engaged to take control over what was called the ‘third world’. Take The Korean War, The U.S. want exactly tiptoeing around the communists then.