The IAEA Report: What Now?

Rick Moran is blog editor of The American Thinker, and Chicago editor of PJ Media.His personal blog is Right Wing Nuthouse.


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In fact, the IAEA report has now brought the Iranian problem to a crisis level. CNN quotes one expert, Geneive Abdo, Iran analyst with The Century Foundation, who believes that a “dangerous turning point” has been reached:

“I think the only move is to have some sort of dialogue with Iran. Whether over Afghanistan or over its nuclear program, the parties have to come back to the negotiating table,” she said. “Because the silence is very dangerous. Also, the Iranians, I believe, really believe that there could be an attack now, and they feel completely under siege.”

“Historically, the way Iran reacts to pressure is more aggression,” and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has made clear he reacts that way as well, Abdo said.

The US would lead the effort for an additional round of sanctions at the UN, but most diplomats hold out little hope that they would alter Iran’s path. Instead, the Obama administration may go it alone or engage its friends and allies in imposing their own, tougher sanctions on Iran. But the same problems present themselves in such a multi-lateral effort; Russia and China would ignore the restrictions and continue to trade with Tehran. One possible target might be the Iranian central bank that deals with other international banks around the world. Restricting Iran’s access to foreign capital would cause the regime some difficulty in the import-export sector.

Despite clear evidence that sanctions won’t stop Tehran from developing a weapon, they will be tried because the alternative — military action — would only delay Iran’s drive for a bomb for three years at most. That’s been a consistent assessment from the Pentagon and CIA for three years now. And an invasion coupled with regime change would have very little support in the US, as well as giving no guarantee that the next Iranian regime wouldn’t pursue nuclear weapons as well. Also, the sites that would be targeted are spread out all over the country and many are underground and hidden.

The Israeli air force would have a difficult mission if it were tasked with bombing Iranian nuclear sites. Difficult – but not impossible. The flights would necessarily be long, with some of the flight path over the territory of states not likely to grant overflight permission. Would the US assist the Israelis by taking out Iranian air defenses, or perhaps even join in a strike on the nuclear sites? If the Israelis is going to go ahead and bomb Iran, there are some who believe we may as well assist them because Iran is going to blame us anyway. More likely, any US administration will do all in its power to dissuade the Israelis from striking. The consequences from skyrocketing oil prices, to probable proxy attacks on our troops and bases in the region would not be worth the small gain in time — if any time is to be gained at this point — in delaying the Iranian quest for a bomb.

The options are all unacceptable — but so is Iran getting the bomb.

This suggests the nearly unthinkable: would Israel use tactical nuclear weapons to destroy Iranian nuclear facilities? The idea has been examined by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) who said in a report that “some believe that nuclear weapons are the only weapons that can destroy targets deep underground or in tunnels.” Israel, which denies it possesses nuclear weapons, would almost certainly refrain from using them — unless it felt it had no choice and that Iran was preparing a strike against the country.

Whatever Israel decides, it will be soon. The IAEA report clearly shows that time has run out and the world is faced with a stark choice: try to delay or destroy the Iranian nuclear program or learn to live with a nuclear Iran.

Both options carry with them great risk and little or no reward.

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  • Rifleman

    My guess is because it's too late to do much about it. They must have enough refined plutonium to make enough bombs to dissuade anybody from taking effective action, or the iaea would still be pretending the program was for peaceful nuclear power.

    • Asher

      There has been information kept from the Public on Iran's capabilities..Yes it may very well be too late to stop them now….Even clueless Ron Paul said it is none of our business whether Iran has nuclear power…Well Duh its not about Nuclear Power, they have been making a nuclear weapon to use against American and Israel. What do you do with the Foolish uninformed Politicians???? Talk about inviting a disaster of epic proportions!

  • Steve Chavez

    ATTACK!!!!

  • Glennd1

    Let's take a very basic approach here by stepping way back. Why is that I as an American should care about whether Iran has a nuclear weapon or not? What threat are they to the U.S.? Answer: Iran is extremely unlikely to attack the U.S. homeland if we don't attack them first.

    Oh, your answer is Israel? Really? We should start WWIII in the mideast for Israel? Will that make them more secure, lol? Instead, if that's your concern, let's offer all Israelis refugee status in the U.S.- any Israeli who doesn't feel secure can move here, other than that, you're on your own. Why is it any issue to the U.S.?

    At best, the Israel issue is a land dispute that we have no stake in. At worst, we ignored Israel's ethnic cleansing of 650,000 Arab Muslims from their homes in Palestine against the explicit wording of the U.N. Resolution granting the Zionists the land in the first place. Either way – whether you are a supporter of Israel as a U.S. pet or not – there is no good outcome for the U.S. in playing any part in an Israeli/Iranian war. I will be in the street protesting and would support the overthrow of a U.S. govt that embarked on such a course. Many Americans agree with me. You conservatives should back off, if only because of my last statement because there are millions of Americans who feel as I do. A country should not go to war without the support of the people.

    • Charles

      You neglect Iranian / Islamic imperialism. Iran's proxy, Hizbollah, now has at least one missile base in Venezuela. Even if Chavez dies soon, "Chavismo" may live on.

    • Herman Caintonette

      Around here, the answer is ALWAYS Israel. Israel meets the clinical definition of a parasite, sapping our national strength while providing nothing of value in return. But these traitors — foreign agents, all — try desperately to infect us with their selfish world view. "Muzzies are sub-human," we are told. Hitler said the same thing about them, but Hitler was bad and they are good.

      There was a time when I supported Israel. But then, the real world disabused me of that notion.

      • Glennd1

        I'm a huge fan of Jewish culture and people. I grew up on Long Island where even a nice Irish Catholic boy like me was kind of an honorary Jew. My first girlfriend was Jewish, as were later ones, I've been to temple etc. However, that is completely different from supporting Zionism, which is a supremacist ideology based on religious supremacism. How can the U.S. support Zionism at all? This may have been our biggest mistake of the 20th century. Fyi, I don't consider Israel supporters or Israel to be parasites, they are simply pursuing their interests and trying, successfully, to persuade us to help them.

        • Herman Caintonette

          Agreed. I've had a college roommate (his choice, btw), clients, friends (and yes, of the female persuasion), superiors, subordinates, and business partners who are Jewish. Based on that experience, I have learned that not all Jews are rabid Zionists of the Horrorwitz persuasion. I am anti-Zionism for the same reason I opposed the Kelo decision; that does not make me "anti-Semitic," except in the puny minds of this band of brain-dead zealots.

          Israel meets the clinical definition of a parasite, in the sense that it has raided our Treasury and distorted our foreign policy to our obvious detriment, but has not contributed anything of material value in return. In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

          • Glennd1

            You are wrong about the nature of a parasite. A parasite attaches itself to you without your permission. Israel's supporters have our national agreement to help Israel, we aren't doing it against our will. Your use of language could leave you open to charges of anti-semitism when perhaps it isn't warranted, you should think about being more precise in your selection of words.

          • fernly2

            Informed consent we, the people, were never given the chance to provide for war now or ever.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

            Herman…don't humor yourself, you couldn't recognize the truth even if it stared you in the face and spit in your eyes.

          • Glennd1

            Why on earth does a troglodyte who is so low class that he calls himself' ObamaYoMama" think he has anything worthwhile to offer? You are a pseudo-intellectual putz who wouldn't know the truth if it jumped in your lap and started humping you.

            The array of incorrect statements you have made in this comment thread alone is in and of itself breathtaking – and you have the gall to call anyone else out? You are far more misinformed and ignorant than you realize – you're a joke, a punch line, something most people smirk at.

            Or don't you realize that? Are you so self-absorbed that you don't realize how absurdly you come across? Preaching as though you have something worthwhile to say when all you do is regurgitate the words of others? You should really take a good look at what you write. It's tripe, utter doggerel, weak polemic and ultimately just agit prop. Wake up, read some books that aren't on Glenn Beck's reading lists, and then come back and apologize when you learn that most of what you believe isn't true and that you don't even know most of the history.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Why on earth does a troglodyte who is so low class that he calls himself' ObamaYoMama" think he has anything worthwhile to offer? You are a pseudo-intellectual putz who wouldn't know the truth if it jumped in your lap and started humping you.

            Damn…thinned skinned are we! Man…you crack me up.

            The array of incorrect statements you have made in this comment thread alone is in and of itself breathtaking – and you have the gall to call anyone else out? You are far more misinformed and ignorant than you realize – you're a joke, a punch line, something most people smirk at.

            Really? What…that Herman couldn't recognize the truth even if it stared him in the face and spit in his eye? Indeed, you crack me up kook! You are a very hilarious loon!

            Or don't you realize that? Are you so self-absorbed that you don't realize how absurdly you come across? Preaching as though you have something worthwhile to say when all you do is regurgitate the words of others?

            Really, I regurgitate the words of others. Where? When?

            You should really take a good look at what you write. It's tripe, utter doggerel, weak polemic and ultimately just agit prop.

            No, no, noooo, if it were agitprop you would be swallowing it as if it were sweet manna from heaven.

            Wake up, read some books that aren't on Glenn Beck's reading lists, and then come back and apologize when you learn that most of what you believe isn't true and that you don't even know most of the history.

            Indeed, you are one funny kook. It's also the reason why your tag is branded red. It's because relative to the overwhelming majority of us lowly true conservatives, you are just far more erudite and learned than the rest of us. Or at least you stupidly believe so.

            Actually, it's the other way around, one has to be pretty fricking mentally handicapped to become a Ron Paul acolyte and anarcho-kook.

          • Herman Caintonette

            You mean, your bleary-eyed, religion-addled definition of the word? Sorry, but the truth is that the Zionists are internal enemies of our Republic.

    • ObamaYoMoma

      Let's take a very basic approach here by stepping way back. Why is that I as an American should care about whether Iran has a nuclear weapon or not? What threat are they to the U.S.? Answer: Iran is extremely unlikely to attack the U.S. homeland if we don't attack them first.

      Only a complete utter moron like you who is totally oblivious to the massive and imminent threat emanating from Islam, could be that mentally incompetent. Whew!

      If Iran acquires nukes and renders the NPT not worth the paper it is printed on, not only will Iran become armed to the teeth with nukes, but the entire Islamic world will also become armed to the teeth with nukes as well. Thus, the Islamic world with its imperative to make Islam supreme will not only be armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons, but it will also become exponentially far more belligerent and aggressive too. Don't lose your day job if you have one you self-hating loon.

      Oh, your answer is Israel? Really? We should start WWIII in the mideast for Israel? Will that make them more secure, lol? Instead, if that's your concern, let's offer all Israelis refugee status in the U.S.- any Israeli who doesn't feel secure can move here, other than that, you're on your own. Why is it any issue to the U.S.?

      Yeah right, maybe if you weren't so incredibly mentally deficient, you'd realize that a nuclear armed Iran and nuclear armed Islamic world not only represents a grave national security threat for Israel but also for the entire West as well. Thus, if we act in our own national security interest in self-defense to stop Iran it won't be on the behalf of those Israeli parasites as you unhinged mentally handicapped bigots will no doubt claim, but it will be in self-defense in our own national security interests. It just so happens that Israel's national security interests and the West's national security interest coincide.

      Nevertheless, Israel is one of our most valuable allies in the world, as Israel is our eyes and ears in the Islamic Middle East and if we didn't have Israel to rely upon, we would have to fund, build, and staff military bases and greatly expand our intelligence gathering capabilities in that region, which would cost exponentially far more than the measly amount of foreign aid we provide Israel. Hence, Israel is far too great a valuable ally to abandon and betray because you have dedicated your life to being an unhinged mentally incompetent useful idiot.

      At best, the Israel issue is a land dispute that we have no stake in.

      Not quite, what is taking place in Israel you moonbat is not a conflict between Arabs and Israelis. What is taking place instead is a permanent jihad of conquest being waged perpetually against the Jewish unbelievers in Israel per the dictates of Islam to make Islam supreme.

      In fact, the permanent jihad of conquest being waged perpetually against the Jewish unbelievers in Israel isn't any different whatsoever from all the many other permanent jihads of conquest being waged by the Islamic world against other non-Muslim unbelievers around the world, including the jihads of conquest being waged perpetually against the Hindu unbelievers in Kashmir, Jammu, and India, the Buddhist unbelievers in Thailand, the Christian unbelievers in the Philippines, the atheist and Orthodox Christian unbelievers in Chechnya and Russia, the animist and Christian unbelievers in Cote D'Ivoire, Nigeria, Sudan, and Somalia, the Orthodox Christian Serb unbelievers in Bosnia and Kosovo, etc., etc., etc., ad nauseum. Not to mention also the jihad being waged via mass Muslim immigration to the West for the purpose of stealth demographic conquest as well.

      Hence, when you intentionally incite hatred and violence against the state of Israel to help facilitate another mass holocaust of Jews like the bigot you are, it is obvious that you are an unhinged useful idiot, as the Muslims are waging jihad not only against the Jewish unbelievers living in Israel, but against all unbelievers including you and me all around the world. Only you are too mentally handicapped to realize it.

      –continued

      • Glennd1

        Your are just like a Progressive – you believe so much that isn't so, it's hard to know where to start. Maybe I'll just point out a couple of facts – then other people reading this can know how uninformed you are.

        1. You talk about Salafist Jihad and Iranian actions as though they are one, when they are not. Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood are completely distinct from Iran and the actions of Hezbollah. They have different belief system, different clerics and don't act together. They are currently rivals and ultimately enemies, you ignorant dolt. To believe that acting against Iran will do anything about Salafist Jihadi attacks around the world is truly silly – other than provide even more recruiting energy, that is. Perhaps you don't know, but after 10 yrs of war, Al Qaeda is 7 times larger than it was on 9/11 – our strategy of invasion and occupation has really worked out well, let's do some more of it? Are you kidding me?

        2. Did you know that it was Iran who helped us connect with the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan, which resulted in the taking of Kabul in a matter of weeks without massive forces from the U.S.? Do you know that we treated them pretty shabbily after that? I'm not saying this means they'd be our ally, of course they won't, but in the real world, the Iranians are much more sophisticated politically than you seem to understand. Yes they have regional ambitions, but there are very few folks who are knowledgeable on foreign policy who believe that Iran would ever attack the U.S.. This is simply out of a desire for self-preservation. Yes, I believe they will attack Israel if they think they can win that war, but why is that a U.S. national interest?

        As for nukes in general, hmm. the Pakis have 'em, the Indians have 'em, the Koreans have 'em and we didn't attack those countries in response. Your position has no history or logic behind it – do you realize that? It would be unprecedented. And it would plunge us into yet another bloody conflict in the mideast. Do we have another trillion dollars to piss away? Also, if you think a bit more deeply, you'll realize that in the next 20 yrs, a number of countries are going to enter the nuclear club – what are we going to do, attack them all? No, those that pose and actual threat to us we should simply outgun just like we did to the Soviets. We live in a world in which nukes are going to be common, or don't you understand that? Maybe you should talk to a scientist or read what U.S. generals have to say on the matter rather than just make up stuff.

        • ObamaYoMoma

          You talk about Salafist Jihad and Iranian actions as though they are one, when they are not.

          Where? Only when their objectives and strategic goals coincide.

          Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood are completely distinct from Iran and the actions of Hezbollah. They have different belief system, different clerics and don't act together. They are currently rivals and ultimately enemies, you ignorant dolt.

          You are are hilarious to say the least. Why are you trying to impress me with respect to how so incredibly ignorant you are? Dude, get out of here, I already forgot far more about Islam and Muslims than you will ever come close to knowing. Indeed, you are the unhinged moron that claims Iran doesn't have any reason to attack us! In other words, you couldn’t be anymore clueless, but you nevertheless crack me up.

          To believe that acting against Iran will do anything about Salafist Jihadi attacks around the world is truly silly – other than provide even more recruiting energy, that is.

          Damn…you are not only incredibly dumb, but you are exceedingly stupid as well. Indeed, why would anyone advocate attacking Iran for the purpose of lowering the number of violent jihadist attacks?

          Kook, read my post. I advocate obliterating the ruling Mullah regime in Iran and destroying their nuclear weapons program to stop them from getting nukes, which if unopposed would precipitate a whole host of other problems leading to an Islamic world quickly becoming armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons and consequently becoming far more belligerent and aggressive. Indeed, why don't you explain to us lowly idiots why you believe that is nothing to be concerned about, considering the fact that the Islamic world has an imperative to make Islam supreme?

          Perhaps you don't know, but after 10 yrs of war, Al Qaeda is 7 times larger than it was on 9/11 – our strategy of invasion and occupation has really worked out well, let's do some more of it? Are you kidding me?

          Moonbat, you are absolutely hilarious, not to mention as well incredibly mentally incompetent at the same time. But nevertheless, you do crack me up.

          Yes they have regional ambitions,

          Uhm…I'm afraid it is far more than just regional.

          why is that a U.S. national interest?

          If you can't figure that out on your own buddy, for be it for me to explain it to you.

          As for nukes in general, hmm. the Pakis have 'em, the Indians have 'em, the Koreans have 'em and we didn't attack those countries in response.

          Hell, even Israel has them! One of the reasons you are so gullible and easily duped is because you adhere to moral relativism and thus morally equate Muslims with Hindus, Christians, Jews, Buddhists, and all other unbelievers. You also obviously don't know what Islam really is, as you also morally equate Islam with those aforementioned faith-based religions as well.

          By the way, I also don't only advocate eradicating the ruling Mullahs of Iran and their nuclear weapons program. I also advocate that we also confiscate the Pakistan nuclear weapons arsenal and destroy their nuclear weapons program as well. As Muslims must never be allowed to possess nuclear weapons under any circumstances.

          Your position has no history or logic behind it – do you realize that?

          Man…you crack me up. You ought to be a comedienne.

          As for as the remainder of your defeatist and self-hating ruminations go, pardon me if I don't subject myself to anymore brain damage than necessary. Have a good day.

    • ObamaYoMoma

      At worst, we ignored Israel's ethnic cleansing of 650,000 Arab Muslims from their homes in Palestine against the explicit wording of the U.N. Resolution granting the Zionists the land in the first place.

      You swallow what is Muslim taqiyya (deception) as if it is the best crack cocaine you ever smoked. Israel didn't ethnically cleans any Arab Muslims much less 650,000. Those Arab Muslims left Israel on their own accord to make way for the Muslim armies that were going to annihilate the Jews and drive them into the Mediterranean Sea after they were ordered to leave Israel by their Imams on orders from the Arab Higher Committee. Indeed, they were told that they could subsequently return to their homes to not only reclaim their property but also to confiscate the property of the dead Jews as war booty, and you couldn't be more gullible or a bigger loon.

      However, after Israel successfully defended their nascent state from a cabal of Islamic states that had banded together to pursue an illegal war of aggression that was really a jihad of conquest, the Islamic world subsequently in revenge ethnically cleansed approximately 800,000 Jews from their countries with nothing but the shirts on their backs, confiscating their property and murdering scores of them in the process. However, unlike what the Islamic states did with respect to those Arab refugees that they were responsible for creating in the first place, Israel took in those Jewish refugees and assimilated and integrated them into Israeli society.

      against the explicit wording of the U.N. Resolution granting the Zionists the land in the first place.

      Why don't you reproduce that explicit wording so that I can have more fun demonstrating what an unhinged mentally incompetent loon you are?

      Either way – whether you are a supporter of Israel as a U.S. pet or not – there is no good outcome for the U.S. in playing any part in an Israeli/Iranian war. I will be in the street protesting and would support the overthrow of a U.S. govt that embarked on such a course

      In other words, you pride yourself on being a mentally deficient useful idiot and unhinged loon. Tell us…are you posting from a tent on Wall Street as well?

      Many Americans agree with me. You conservatives should back off, if only because of my last statement because there are millions of Americans who feel as I do. A country should not go to war without the support of the people.

      Why don't you go take a crap on the hood of police car you moonbat! You are in way over your head over here. Furthermore, you are wrong, Americans as unhinged and mentally incompetent as you are fortunately constitutes only a tiny minority.

      • Glennd1

        As for your claim that the ethnic cleansing of 650,000 Arabs from their homes in Palestine between '47-'49 didn't occur, this is an accepted fact, even by most Zionists living in Israel now. Perhaps the best known Israeli, Jewish, Zionist historian in the world, Benny Morris, documented these actions in his own books on the birth of Israel. I'd direct you to his great book entitled "1948" for his treatment of the facts. As well the lie that the Arab nations were coaching their conspirators living in Palestine to leave their homes was also disproved by him and other so called "New Historians".

        That you are so ignorant of the state of this fact based, historical reporting on Israel should tell readers of this site volumes about your reliability as a source. Fyi, the reason all this information came out is that, just as in the U.S., the Israeli people began demanding less secrecy and more accountability from their govt in the 60s, 70s and 80s, and in the 80s began by law declassifying millions of documents from the Israeli govt and other Zionists from the '47-'49 time period. This is why Menachem Begin himself described in his own memoir how David Ben Gurion ordered what is referred to by its victims as the "Lydda Death March" with the flick of his hand. In this single incident the IDF and Zionists terrorists cleansed Lydda of 50,000 Arabs. Even the most dedicated Zionists don't deny this anymore.

        Worse yet, between '48-'51 many of the 700,000 Jews who arrived in Israel moved directly into the homes of these refugees. You will at least admit that the U.N. Resolution granting the Zionists the land, as well as the original Balfour Declaration and the British Mandate for Palestine all stipulated that the Zionists were expressly for forbidden from dislocating these people, won't you? I mean, that is just plain and simple fact that can't be disputed.

        I won't destroy the rest of your fantasy based argument but could do so easily because I actually read about the subject from sources other than Horowitz and Dershowitz (who's writing on this topic is considered a joke in academic historian circles). Calling me names and spouting your anger and assuming I'm a leftist of some sort all show you to be the weaker man here. I happen to be a libertarian and a student of history so it is you who is in "over his head" – and you don't even know it. What a sad, ignorant little man you must be.

        Your basic mistake in this argument, btw, is to assume that I support Islamism or the terrorist actions of the Palestinians (and don't bother telling me there is no such thing, they are referred to as such now so that's why I use the term for the present day). I, in fact, understand far better than you the nature of radical Islam, whether it's Salafists like the Muslim Brotherhood or the horrific acts of Hezbollah, financed wholly by Iran. Finally, I have nothing in common with those cretins in the Occupy blah blah crowd – it seems they much prefer foaming at the mouth ravers like you who believe in fantasies, rather than me, who is informed by facts, reason and a very solid grasp of history.

        • ObamaYoMoma

          As for your claim that the ethnic cleansing of 650,000 Arabs from their homes in Palestine between '47-'49 didn't occur, this is an accepted fact, even by most Zionists living in Israel now.

          Man…how can any one single individual all by himself be so incredibly mentally handicapped and gullible all at the same time? Now, I've run into some delusional morons in my time cruising the Internet, but I think you may just have taken the cake. Congratulations!

          The only morons that believe that nonsense living in Israel are Arab citizens of Israel, the manufactured out of whole cloth Palestinian proxy of the Islamic world, and a few extremely self-hating Marxist Jews, otherwise the vast overwhelming majority of Jewish citizens of Israel know that charge is completely bogus taqiyya meant to dupe gullible useful idiots exactly like you into believing nonsense and into inciting hatred and violence against Jewish unbelievers on behalf of Muslim jihadists.

          Perhaps the best known Israeli, Jewish, Zionist historian in the world, Benny Morris, documented these actions in his own books on the birth of Israel.

          Well, I wouldn't exactly call Benny Morris a historian; he's more like a shyster. Man…you don't keep up with what is happening in the world do you? After Dr. Efraim Karsh wrote a book exposing Morris for the shyster he is; Morris came clean and admitted he cooked the books. Thus, today Morris is routinely vilified and demonized by the Islamic world and their useful idiot Leftist brigades for repudiating his own work. Dude you are a professional useful idiot and a very ill informed one at that!

          I'd direct you to his great book entitled "1948" for his treatment of the facts.

          No thanks, I'm not naïve and gullible enough to swallow propaganda like it is the best cocaine you ever smoked.

          As well the lie that the Arab nations were coaching their conspirators living in Palestine to leave their homes was also disproved by him and other so called "New Historians".

          I hate to keep raining on your incredibly gullible parade moonbat, but those self-described so-called "New Historians" were self-hating Marxist loons and most of them were laughed out of Israel after their books were thoroughly discredited. Of course, Muslims and bigoted self-hating delusional Leftists that double as being obsessed Jew hating bigots eat up the garbage contained in those books lock, stock, and barrel. Nevertheless, people exponentially far more intelligent than you, dismiss those books for the fairy tales they contain, especially when they all have been thoroughly discredited.

          With respect to Arab nations coaching conspirators, with all due disrespect you are an unhinged moron. No one was coached, they were ordered to leave their homes by their Imams to make way for the invading Islamic armies that were going to annihilate the Jews and drive them into the sea, which was completely illegal, by the way. Indeed, in the Islamic world, a Muslim doesn't question or challenge an Imam, as that is blasphemous and blasphemy, like apostasy too, is a capital offense in Islam.

          In any event, if you read a legitimate book as opposed to a fairy tale that has been totally discredited maybe you would learn something, but nevertheless it seems to me like you have way too much invested in being a total and complete unmitigated idiot, so I doubt you are redeemable.

          –continued

        • ObamaYoMoma

          That you are so ignorant of the state of this fact based, historical reporting on Israel should tell readers of this site volumes about your reliability as a source.

          Loon don't humor yourself, you couldn't recognize the truth if it stared you in the face and spit in your eye, much less discern fact from fiction. Indeed, you are addicted to propaganda and as a result you are the personification of a useful idiot moonbat.

          Moreover, not only are you totally wrong with respect to Israel, but you are so mentally incompetent that you ally yourself with a society that fully intends to subjugate not only the Jews in Israel but you, me, and all non-Muslim unbelievers around the world. Indeed, everything you have swallowed thus for with respect to the Israelis is nothing but taqiyya meant to dupe you and turn you into a gullible useful idiot.

          As for as the rest of your absurd garbage goes, it is too ludicrous for me to even waste my time reading much less commenting. Go sell it to a Muslim or another self-hating delusional Leftwing bigot or moronic anarcho-kook like you.

          Anyhow, please explain how you can ally like a gullible useful idiot with a society that is not only waging a permanent jihad against all non-Muslims unbelievers around the world including the Jewish unbelievers in Israel, you, and me per the dictates of Islam to make Islam supreme, but at the same time violently oppressing and systematically persecuting when not outright slaughtering altogether Christians and all other non-Muslim unbelievers living in their countries as second-class dhimmi citizens? Are you so narrow-minded that you simply didn't notice? Apparently, you didn't notice the global jihad either.

          Get out of here, you are too mentally incompetent for me to waste time. Hell, I bet you even believe that the 9/11 jihad attacks were America's chickens coming home to roost or otherwise an American government conspiracy.

          I happen to be a libertarian

          Whether you are a self-hating/blame America first delusional Leftwing pinko or a self-hating/blame America first delusional Ron Paul anarcho-kook, it makes no difference to me. You are still an unhinged anti-Semitic bigot, a gullible useful idiot, and a mentally incompetent moonbat addicted to propaganda all rolled into one.

          I, in fact, understand far better than you the nature of radical Islam,

          As opposed to what…moderate Islam? Give me a break, don't humor yourself. You don't know squat. The reality is you couldn't be anymore blinded by PC multiculturalism and as a result stupid.

          who is informed by facts, reason and a very solid grasp of history.

          If I was half as dumb, stupid, and gullible as you, I believe I would shoot myself in the head.

          • Herman Caintonette

            Which is why you already did, and why your drivel is so incontinent. Problem is, you obliterated a major part of your reasoning circuits,.

          • Glennd1

            Lol, this guy is a joke, people. He dismisses what Benny Morris has to say? Morris is the leading scholar in the world on this topic – and is himself a Jewish, Zionist Israeli. He has stated publicly that the only thing wrong with Israel's policy from '47-'49 is that they didn't go far enough. In other words, moron, he's on your side of the argument, and is taken seriously by people on both sides of this issue, and makes clear that Israel did chase 650,000 Arab Muslims from their homes in Palestine. Do you realize how out of touch with reality you are?

            Here's another tidbit. Meir Dagan, the recent Israel Mossad chief, stated earlier this year that the idea of an Israeli air force attack on Iran was the "stupidest thing I ever heard". Listen to that. Stop and think. If the head of Israeli intelligence thinks attacking Iran is a bad idea, how can you claim the idea of opposing it is evidence of mental defect. (Fyi, I read very little of what you write).

            When are you folks going to realize you are getting brainwashed about Israel on sites like this? There is another side to the story that has nothing to do with supporting Hamas or terrorism – it's called supporting the truth.

            And remember, that doesn't mean I'm friendly or supportive of Islamists – exactly the opposite. I just legitimately question what it is in our national interest or even the correct moral choice to back Israel's religious claim to land, and their actions in forming their country.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            LOL moonbat…I dismiss what Benny Morris has to say because Benny Morris himself not only dismisses what he had to say and but also repudiates what he had to say as well. Thus, your claim that Benny Morris is a leading scholar in the world is exposed as being a lie. Indeed, after Efraim Karsh wrote a book exposing and proving that the so-called “New Historians,” and the same ones you worship as paramours of truth, were charlatans, at first Morris went into denial mode. However, after second thought he eventually repudiated and apologize for his own previous scholarship. He says now that he didn't have access to the right documents when he wrote his earlier book. Hell, he even goes so for as to state that any expulsions made by the Israelis, which were far and few between, were justified. Hell, today he even opposes a two state solution because he rightly accesses that it isn't viable. In other words, unlike you he has done a complete 180 turn around and now adheres to the truth.

            In any event, in recent years Morris is the Israeli pseudo historian that the moonbats and the anti-Semites like you most love to hate. They have special contempt for him because, after all, he used to be one of them and “betrayed” them. Apparently, you are too mentally handicapped to keep up with the latest in the hate propaganda industry that is financed and paid for with Islamic petro-dollars to dupe gullible useful idiots like you.
            http://www.stopaipac.org/bennymorris.htm

            Thus, since Benny Morris dismisses and repudiates his own previous scholarship as fiction and because Benny Morris is not a leading scholar in the world on anything much less Israel as you deliberately misrepresented, then you should apologize to everyone in this thread for being stupid and dumb enough to attempt to mislead them.

            With respect to that self-hating delusional leftwing moron, Meir Dagan, he's a delusional loon appointed by another self-hating delusional loon. Thus, only moonbats and kooks like you are dumb enough to put any stock in his absurd loon opinions. I mean look at the Obama administration, Obama's current National Intelligence Director, Retired General Jame Clapper, is a total incompetent moron who has made embarrassing after embarrassing gaffs and blunders and Obama's counter-terrorism Chief, James Brenner, believes that Jihad is a personal inner struggle only. Indeed, both those moronic loons wouldn't hold prestigious positions in the Obama administration if they weren't both incredibly incompetent. Indeed, because of politics mental incompetents get appointed to high positions all the time, and Meir Dagan is a splendid example of one.

            When are you folks going to realize you are getting brainwashed about Israel on sites like this? There is another side to the story that has nothing to do with supporting Hamas or terrorism – it's called supporting the truth.

            Yeah right, there is another side to the story all right, like the Benny Morris scholarship that you cite above like a bigoted loon even years after Morris himself had repudiated it. Dude, the reason your tag is stained red is not because you are smarter than everyone else, it's because you are an obsessed Jew hating moonbat and a very dumb one at that.

            And remember, that doesn't mean I'm friendly or supportive of Islamists –

            Yes, you are a Muslim apologist! That's obvious. In any event, what the hell is an Islamist?

            I just legitimately question what it is in our national interest or even the correct moral choice to back Israel's religious claim to land, and their actions in forming their country.

            All of that is propaganda designed to distract your mind off the little birdie, as what is happening in Israel is the same thing that is happening all over the world in too many places in that the Islamic world, via their proxy the so-called Palestinians, which were created out of whole cloth in Moscow in 1964 by the Soviet KGB as a disinformation campaign to dupe gullible useful idiots like you, is waging permanent and perpetual jihad against the Jewish unbelievers in Israel, and if you weren't so incredibly mentally deficient you would know already that Muslims are waging jihad perpetually against all non-Muslim unbelievers including you and me to make Islam supreme.

            Just curious though, out of the 56 Islamic countries that make up the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC), can you point to just one country that doesn't violently oppress and systematically persecute when not outright slaughtering them altogether the Christians and all other non-Muslim unbelievers that are unfortunate enough to be living inside their countries as second-class dhimmi citizens?

          • Glennd1

            Ah, so finally a somewhat fact based response to my points. You could have saved yourself and many others so much wasted time sorting through your hysterics. As for Karsh's work – let's say that there is still some actual dispute among academics about the degree to which the Nakba was willfully undertaken versus compelled – but that by no means makes Karsh correct. I wonder if you can understand that?

            Furthermore, for the sake of argument, let me concede that say more than 6 villages cleared themselves out of Palestine without being forced at gunpoint to do so. Regardless, the entire international community railed against Israel in '49, when the first 'right of return' resolution was passed by the U.N. – the same U.N. that Israel got the land from in the first place. The U.N. has done so every year since and Israel ignores it.

            Look, I get it, you think Muslims are animals and that Jews have a God given right to Palestine (probably because you are a fundo Christian who wants the third temple so Armegeddon can finally kickoff). You believe that Jews had the right to take over that land and drive the people who lived there out. Zionists discussed this for decades before, it's not as though the Zionist movement didn't actively contemplate this issue very publicly long before Israel was formed. Many, many aggressive Zionists fought for this to be the policy of Israel. You act as though this was a surprise, that nobody at the time expected the Arabs living in Palestine to object to this. Of course they did – of course other Arab nations came to their aid.

            I will readily admit that there was lots of fighting going on. Darn those pesky Arabs, why didn't they just do what the West and the Zionists told them, how dare they fight for their homes that they and their ancestors had lived in for many generation? Just imagine a Native American tribe won the same award from the U.N? Imagine one day you woke up and Indian terrorists and their newly formed army were in your neighborhood, claiming it was their country now. Would you fight? Why can you not see the basic reality of who did what to whom in the case of Israel?

            Finally, and you still don't get this – I don't support Jihadists or terrorists. Since it seems that you have some actual knowledge of this subject, you are aware that there are folks who support a peaceful settlement to the conflict. It's those activists who I respect. Fyi, there are more than a few Israelis who take the same exact position.

            My last comment? You should learn to argue factually – you could cut out 90% of what you write and actually have a good interaction with people that you disagree with. Your assessment of me and I would guess most of your opponents as being 'moonbats' or somehow mentally defective only makes you look horrible, not smart or good. It would also be a better debate for others to read.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Look I'm not going to waste any more time debunking hate propaganda with you that I already know for a fact is all taqiyya meant as a pretext and a disinformation campaign to dupe gullible useful idiots exactly like you.

            The truth is the jihad of conquest being waged perpetually against the Jewish unbelievers in Israel is no different from any of the many other jihads of conquest the Islamic world is also waging perpetually against many and various other non-Muslim unbelievers around the world such as the he Hindu unbelievers in Kashmir, Jammu, and India, the Buddhist unbelievers in Thailand, the Christian unbelievers in the Philippines, the atheist and Orthodox Christian unbelievers in Chechnya and Russia, the animist and Christian unbelievers in Cote D'Ivoire, Nigeria, Sudan, and Somalia, the Orthodox Christian Serb unbelievers in Bosnia and Kosovo, etc., etc., etc., ad nauseum. Not to mention the stealth global jihad via mass Muslim immigration to the West for the purpose of demographic conquest. Indeed, because the sixth and most important pillar of Islam make is an obligatory duty for EVERY MUSLIM to fight jihad in the cause of Allah against non-Muslim unbelievers to make Islam supreme, the world today is under assault by jihad.

            Hence, when like an obsessed Jew hating bigot, you in the face of the global jihad at large are deliberately inciting hatred and violence against Israel to help facilitate another mass genocidal holocaust of Jews, at the same time that you also totally ignore all the many other jihads currently taking place around the world or otherwise are too obsessed and narrow-minded to notice, then it couldn't be any clearer to me that you are totally unhinged and mentally incompetent. Thus, why should I waste anymore time humoring a retarded moonbat like you? Give me a break, I got better things to do!

          • Glennd1

            Who are you arguing with? I'm not Jew hating bigot (for those following along, calling anyone critical of Israel or the U.S.'s support of it an anti-semite is a standard tactic ), in fact I think we should offer any Israeli citizen political refugee status here. I actually love and respect Jewish culture – I came close to converting to marry a Jewish girl, but then she dumped me, sigh…

            Nor am I unhinged or mentally incompetent. I simply disagree with you, and have cited many sources, facts and ideas for my beliefs. You believe differently – that makes me crazy? By your definition, since you don't agree with me, I should call you crazy? Really, do you really have such a Manichean view of the world?

            I don't want to attack Iran. Not for Israel and we don't need to do it for ourselves. For that matter, I want to give Taiwan to the Chinese, leave South Korea today, close most of our foreign military bases, stop training foreign military personnel, cut off all foreign aid that isn't strictly humanitarian, and even then do a fraction of what we do. I care not a whit whether a Jew gets the land he thinks God promised his people nor do I care what happens so some South Korean – they can take care of themselves. If they become U.S. citizens then they can have the protection our military might affords.

            Pretty simple, not hard to understand. I'm a non-interventionist along the lines of Michael Scheuer – is he mentally defective too? Careful, cuz he ran the Al Qaeada and Bin Laden unit at CIA under Clinton and Bush for 8 yrs, is a world class academic and thinker and sees no reason why we should be defending Israel.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Who are you arguing with? I'm not Jew hating bigot (for those following along, calling anyone critical of Israel or the U.S.'s support of it an anti-semite is a standard tactic ), in fact I think we should offer any Israeli citizen political refugee status here. I actually love and respect Jewish culture – I came close to converting to marry a Jewish girl, but then she dumped me, sigh…

            Loon, when you spew debunked hate propaganda intended to incite hatred and violence against Israel in order to facilitate another mass genocidal holocaust of Jews, it couldn't be anymore obvious that beside being totally mentally incompetent, you are also a Jew hating anti-Semitic bigot, as hate propaganda does not constitute legitimate criticism. With respect to your claim that you love Jews, you are also a clown as action speaks louder than words you moron.

            As for as the rest of your garbage, please forgive me if I don't give myself unnecessary brain damage by reading it.

          • Glennd1

            And sorry, I have to correct one specific point (I ignore most of what you write) you make. Morris did not change his mind or admit his scholarship was wrong, rather he admitted that his first work on the subject of '47-'49 was completed without having access to Israel security archives. That's it, Here's a link to an article on American Thinker in which Benny Morris defends himself from Karsh's criticism. http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/07/my_respons

            More info/facts – make your own mind up, stop listening to the war propaganda!

          • Glennd1

            One more point, for those of you who interested in truth instead of hysterical name calling. There are many scholars who have come to the same conclusions. Ilan Poppe is another Israeli scholar who is very knowledgeable on the subject. He put together a really easy to understand video on his views and how they evolved. Here's the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIWvcBzbqVc – make your own minds up.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Ilan Poppe is a scholar about as much as Benny Morris is a scholar, except he is far more deceptive and dishonest, as at least Benny Morris admits he was a propagandist, while Ilan Poppe in defiance still refuses to do so, even though he has also been thoroughly debunked as well. In addition, Ilan Poppe and many of his leftwing delusional self-hating ilk were also laughed out of Israel. Good riddance. Indeed, only Muslims and unhinged anti-Semitic Jew hating bigots like you still hold him in high regard. Meanwhile, while like a loon you are totally obsessed with hating Jews because you have gullibly swallowed the nonsense of debunked propagandists, at the same time you are totally unaware of the global jihad that is metastasizing and that is targeting you, me, Jews, Christians, and indeed all non-Muslim unbelievers around the world. Yeah right, you couldn't be any more oblivious or clueless.

          • Glennd1

            Both Morris and Poppe are legit professors of history at legit universities. That makes them scholars. You can disagree with them, you can call them names hysterically (your stock in trade), but you can't change the fact that they are scholars. You seem to believe that if you repeat things or say them emphatically that somehow that makes them more true?

  • Paul P.

    E.M.P.

  • kasandra

    The only issue I have with the column is the statement in it "there is no “smoking gun” that reveals Iranian intentions with any certainty." Is there any mystery about their intentions? Isn't there a entire catalog of statements by President Ahmadgenocide and various Iranian ayatollahs and mullahs about the need and desirability of eliminating Israel? Wouldn't you consider "Mein Kampf" a smoking gun with regard to Hitler's intentions?

  • Ghostwriter

    HC,you're still living in a fantasy world. Iran is not a peaceful country. It is under the control of the vicious mullahs and their psychotic president A-jad. And he's repeatedly said he wants to wipe Israel of the map. Do you think when they're done with Israel,they're going to leave us alone? No,they're not. They're going to wipe out Europe and then the United States simply because we exist. Why don't you come back to reality and stop defending the evil mullahs. They're not worth it.

    • Herman Caintonette

      Iran has its own internal problems — remember the Green Revolution? — and we would do well to not strengthen the hand of the hard-liners. Given enough time, Iran will reform itself and rejoin the community of nations.

  • Dispozadaburka

    Prophecy from Ali ibn Abi-Talib, (Shiite Islam from 17th Century (hadith) predicts that just before the return of the Mahdi (end of times redeemer of Islam) a "tall black man will assume the reins of government in the West." The leader will command "the strongest army on earth" and will bear " a clear sign" from the third Imam, HUSSIEN. The prophecy concludes that : Shiites should have no doubt that "he is with us." Obama

    Appolyon Rising 2012 The Lost Symbol Found and the Final Mystery of the Great Seal Revealed, Thomas Horn

  • ObamaYoMoma

    Much of the intelligence gathered for the report has been in the possession of the IAEA for years, and many observers believe that the previous head of the agency, Mohamed ElBaradei​, deliberately softened IAEA reports in order to entice Iran to negotiate a settlement. Indeed, a large part of the report released on Tuesday is culled directly from a secret paper written in 2008 for the IAEA that ElBaradei never published, but which provided much of the impetus for the agency’s current conclusions about the Iranian program.

    In order to entice Iran to negotiate? Please, give me a break. Come on…ElBaradei is a Muslim and therefore like ALL MAINSTREAM ORTHODOX MUSLIMS he is a jihadist, either a violent jihadist or a non-violent stealth and deceptive jihadist. Otherwise he is a blasphemous apostate and not a Muslim at all, in which case per the dictates of Islam he should be executed.

    When you allow Muslims to serve in sensitive positions or really in any positions for that matter, they will naturally try to fulfill their holy obligation to fight jihad in the cause of Allah against non-Muslim unbelievers to make Islam supreme. Since jihad is always conflated with terrorism, which as its name implies always involves violence, jihad, on the other hand, consist of both violent and non-violent means. Thus, by conflating and morally equating jihad with terrorism per the dictates of PC multiculturalism, the non-violent stealth and deceptive varieties of jihad, that relative to the violent varieties of jihad takes place astronomically far more prevalently, takes place completely unacknowledged and totally unopposed today, and that is a humongous flaw that is opening up the door for the West to eventually be subsumed by Islam via non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad.

    In fact, mass Muslim immigration to the West or anywhere else for that matter is non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad in action, as Muslims never ever migrate to assimilate and integrate but instead only to eventually subjugate and dominate to make Islam supreme via demographic conquest.

    Indeed, in country after country and anywhere and everywhere mass Muslim immigration is taking place in the world today, like clock work and without a single exception the vast overwhelming majority of Muslim immigrants flat out refuse to assimilate and integrate and instead form segregated Muslim enclaves that in time eventually morph into Muslim no-go zones ruled by Sharia as fifth columns and in direct contravention to the laws of the states in which they reside. As a matter of fact, Europe is sprinkled with Muslim no-go zones ruled by Sharia as fifth columns, and the government of France, for instance, has identified 758 such Muslim no-go zones ruled by Sharia as fifth columns in France alone.

    Hence, mass Muslim immigration to the West or anywhere else for that matter with all of its excess baggage must be abolished ASAP and reversed. Otherwise, they will eventually take over via non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad for the purpose of demographic conquest, as they recently accomplished earlier this year in Cote D'Ivoire and are in the process of accomplishing in Nigeria and Lebanon today.

    Far more than ElBaradei, who at times seemed to be Iran’s primary nuclear enabler

    That's because he was!

    It’s an admitted long shot, but looking at the alternative, it’s a diplomat’s hope to resolve the crisis peacefully.

    When you are dealing with autocratic totalitarian thugs diplomacy and sanctions never work and always inevitably fail, as it did in North Korea and will also ultimately fail again in Iran as well. The only solution is military strikes that not only target and destroy the nuclear weapons facilities but also eliminate the ruling Mullah regime.

    The alternative will be a nuclear armed Iran with nuclear weapons proliferated throughout the Islamic world, and thus the Islamic world with its imperative to make Islam supreme will be armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons and inevitably become far more belligerent and aggressive.

    Despite clear evidence that sanctions won’t stop Tehran from developing a weapon, they will be tried because the alternative — military action — would only delay Iran’s drive for a bomb for three years at most.

    Nonsense, this is lame defeatist BS used by delusional Leftists as an excuse to discourage the use of force to stop Iran. The only way to stop Iran is to not only target and destroy the nuclear weapons facilities, but also to target and eradicate the ruling Mullah regime, or otherwise the alternative is a nuclear armed Iran and a nuclear armed Islamic world that will inevitably become far more belligerent and aggressive. While using military force is not a pleasant option, it is a far better option indeed than the alternative of not using military force.

    –continued

  • ObamaYoMoma

    That’s been a consistent assessment from the Pentagon and CIA for three years now.

    Besides the fantasy based nation-building missions in Afghanistan and Iraq based on ludicrous false PC multicultural myths and assumptions, the above consistent and defeatist assessment is further proof our Pentagon and CIA has been rendered totally incompetent via leftwing infiltration in high positions and the infusion of multiculturalism, diversity, and political correctness. Unless this situation is somehow reversed, the USA, the West, and indeed the free world are all doomed to eventually become subjugated into draconian Islamic totalitarianism.

    And an invasion coupled with regime change would have very little support in the US, as well as giving no guarantee that the next Iranian regime wouldn’t pursue nuclear weapons as well.

    That is pure utter BS! In other words, the Reagan doctrine of peace through strength and deterrence has been erased in favor of the Powell doctrine of you break it you own it. More proof that the Pentagon, the CIA, and indeed our entire federal government has been hijacked and co-opted by the delusional defeatist Left.

    Nevertheless, it is highly doubtful that another Iranian regime that witnessed first hand and up close and personal what happened to the previous regime when it made the suicidal mistake of pursuing nuclear weapons, would be willing to make that same tragic suicidal mistake again. Indeed, it is obvious the notion of peace through strength and deterrence has been completely eliminated from the debate within our Pentagon, and replaced with defeatism.

    Also, the sites that would be targeted are spread out all over the country and many are underground and hidden.

    More Leftwing defeatist excuses!

    More likely, any US administration will do all in its power to dissuade the Israelis from striking.

    Any US administration that will betray a very loyal ally and instead do all in its powers to dissuade the Israelis from acting in self-defense instead of joining them in joint operations is a totally bankrupt and incompetent US administration and deserves what it gets.

    The consequences from skyrocketing oil prices, to probable proxy attacks on our troops and bases in the region would not be worth the small gain in time — if any time is to be gained at this point — in delaying the Iranian quest for a bomb.

    More surrender and defeatism.

    This suggests the nearly unthinkable: would Israel use tactical nuclear weapons to destroy Iranian nuclear facilities?

    Why is using nuclear weapons unthinkable and why like a loon must we accept such abject defeatism? What is the use of acquiring nuclear weapons for self-defensive purposes if we don't have the will to use them in self-defense? If we are forced to use nuclear weapons in self defense, it won't be Israel or the US that will have blood on its hands, it will be the ruling Mullah regime that forced our hand into using them. Indeed, if we no longer have the courage and end up surrendering in this case because we lack will, then in due time the world will become subjugated into draconian Islamic totalitarianism and a new Dark Age that the world may never be able to escape will ensue.

    Not to mention that the longer we wait to stop the Iranians, the higher the cost will be. Indeed, if the Bush administration had acted soon after Saddam was ousted instead of engineering the two biggest strategic blunders ever in American history, the cost to stop the Iranians would have been far cheaper and a mere fraction of the cost back then than it is today. Further, if we are forced to use nuclear weapons to eliminate the nuclear threat emanating from Iran, it will be because the Bush administration was so totally incompetent.

    Moreover, the Iranians have been killing our troops with impunity in both Iraq and Afghanistan for many years now, and that is a transgression that must not go unavenged and unpunished. In fact, the reality that that transgression has been allowed to take place with impunity for so many years now is an utter disgrace and those responsible for that disgrace, as for as I'm concerned, should be locked up and severely punished by a long imprisonment to discourage such defeatism from taking hold again in the US military establishment in the future.

    Apparently, our federal government has been usurped by delusional defeatist Leftists and as a result our government today is so self-hating and self-defeatist that it now believes the 9/11 jihad attacks were America's chickens coming home to roost. In fact, our government is so self-hating and defeatist that it is afraid to act in self-defense today to ensure our national security because it believes Iran will retaliate against us in the future. Indeed, Iran will retaliate against us in the future all right, but only if we don't create enough death and destruction to deter them.

    Whatever happened to peace through strength? Apparently, it was abandoned in the Bush administration and remains abandoned in the Obama administration today.

  • Xavier

    Israel is just an excuse for Iran expansionism, it serves as a rallying cry to the rest of the Muslim countries and a softener used against the west.
    If Iran gets to the point of getting rid of Israel, there will be nothing diplomacy will be able to do to stop them and the rest of the Muslim world to continue on.
    Don’t be fooled.

  • Xavier

    Btw, as far as an E.m.p strike on the US, all they need is to bring a missile launching ship disguized as a commercial freight ship, close enough to our west or east coast.

  • WilliamJamesWard

    Israel does not have to delay the threat of Iran gaining atomic bombs, Israel
    has to end the threat of Iran from ever having atomic bombs and anywhere
    in the Islamic world that atomics are in play they need to be destroyed.
    William

    • Herman Caintonette

      You checkers players don't see the danger. The Islamic world has nukes already, and a practical means for delivering them to Tel Aviv. Attack Iran, and Pakistan could hurl a few nukes to the Straits of Hormuz and Israel proper, and WWIII would officially begin. Why should we risk the future of the human race for the sake of a few Zionist thieves?

      • WilliamJamesWard

        Herman they would be cutting their own throat and would not do that
        with the exception of the Mullahs in Iran who would take the first and
        final strike. Not giving away national secrets but it will all be over in a
        few minutes unless the Israelis stick to form and excise only part of the
        problem, then it is business as usual. I find it interesting that you introduce
        ideas well and then crash into objectionable conclusions, guess that
        is just you. As a commander I never lost and engagement, the latest
        trained warriors are better by far but with political clods in the way it
        will only be by political error that America or Israeli forces could be
        undone……………………………………………………………William

  • Ari K.

    I'm so sick of these Iranian bastards. I say we nuke Tehran and get it over with!

  • myohmy

    I think it's time to do something we know works…. like when we nuked Nagasaki and Hiroshima. that really got their attention. No more kamikazi suicide bombers, no war, no problems. They decided to forget about hating us and decided to love us… We've had peace with then since 1945.. wow. Now that's something that really works. Come on Israel, Obama won't do it… how about you?

  • alphakilosingh

    So, Iran is making an A Bomb: What is new in it? Everyone knew it, hoping IAEA would never have to say this. There was a time when USA and allies could have forced Iran to give up on the Bomb, but what can they do now? If attacking Iran was possible, they would have done it now. With every passing day, attack is becoming increasingly difficult, and the probability of the attack being effective is going down.
    This may seem a foolish idea, but free distribution of nuclear technology might help curb Iran.

    • fernly2

      When Cain disagreed with his brother and found a military solution the issue remained, just as Japanese bombing did not provide a basis for global community of sovereign nations. Looks like Mother nature may challenge Earth to co-operate to meet the common goal of survival in an age of weather extremes or not. We're going to need to circle all the wagons to get through the kind of cosmoclimate we're getting. I sense the kind of excitement among the peole of earth common to pre-hurrican conditions. Mass strikes, increased birth rates are here. We have the www. Martin Luther had only the printing press. Have fun. Don't forget the keys: HR 1489 or NAWAPA.—– IMPEACH THE WATERBOY—–universal transparent access to nuclear technology seems rational to me. When Prometheus gave humans fire he gave it to all. Whoops, we sure have burned a lot of forests, people, etc. Maybe we'll be more careful with nuclear.

  • Herman Caintonette

    Obama has been a major disappointment in the leadership department, failing to use the bully pulpit he has been given to present a vision and inspire the country to follow. JFK was the best at this, with Reagan a close second.

    But where would you have him lead? Israel is more of a parasite than a friend, and we have spent more than enough in misguided attempts to make the ME more safe for Zionism already. If it was improper for us to bomb Libya — as you conservatives screamed from the rooftops — it is certainly improper for us to bomb Iran, which has every legal and moral right to develop nukes for purposes of national defense. His decision not to confront Iran appears to be grounded in principle.

  • Herman Caintonette

    The Shah signed the treaty; how is his signature binding on them? And when it comes to international terrorism, we've unlawfully invaded dozens of countries.

    Israel should be wiped off the map; if the squatters simply left, it would be.

  • Bert

    Poor Herman hasn't got a clue. He is blind to what Iran is saying and doing. 'America is the big satan' and Iran is working on an EMP weapon to explode high above America and fry our electronic circuits. Go to http://www.onesecondafter.com. If Israel did not exist we could still be facing a nuclear Pearl Harbor as we did 70 years ago. This is the confusion of people like Herman who become too obsessed with Jews.

  • Herman Caintonette

    EMP weapons only have a range of ~1,000 km in diameter, and they have to be able to deliver them. A low-priority threat, compared to China.

  • Herman Caintonette

    As if we have adhered scrupulously to our own international obligations (we are in patent violation of the ICCPR and the CAT).

    One can withdraw from a treaty by actions, as well as by declaration.