Five Easy Steps to End ‘Islamophobia’

Robert Spencer is the director of Jihad Watch and author of the New York Times bestsellers The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades) and The Truth About Muhammad. His latest book, Arab Winter Comes to America: The Truth About the War We're In, is now available.


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No comedy show, no matter how clever or winning, is going to eradicate the suspicion that many Americans have of Muslims. This is because Americans are concerned about Islam not because of the work of greasy Islamophobes, but because of Naser Abdo, the would-be second Fort Hood jihad mass murderer; and Khalid Aldawsari, the would-be jihad mass murderer in Lubbock, Texas; and Muhammad Hussain, the would-be jihad bomber in Baltimore; and Mohamed Mohamud, the would-be jihad bomber in Portland; and Faisal Shahzad, the would-be Times Square jihad mass-murderer; and Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, the Arkansas military recruiting station jihad murderer; and Naveed Haq, the jihad mass murderer at the Jewish Community Center in Seattle; and Mohammed Reza Taheri-Azar, the would-be jihad mass murderer in Chapel Hill, North Carolina; Ahmed Ferhani and Mohamed Mamdouh, who hatched a jihad plot to blow up a Manhattan synagogue; and Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the would-be Christmas airplane jihad bomber; and many others like them who have plotted and/or committed mass murder in the name of Islam and motivated by its texts and teachings — all in the U.S. in the last couple of years.

The fact that there are other Muslims not fighting jihad is just great, but it doesn’t mean that the jihad isn’t happening. This comedy show simply doesn’t address the problem of jihad terrorism and Islamic supremacism.

As David Horowitz and I show in our pamphlet Islamophobia: Thoughtcrime of the Totalitarian Future, the term “Islamophobia” is a politically manipulative coinage designed to intimidate critics of Islamic supremacism and jihad into silence.

Claire Berlinski explains how Islamic supremacists from the Muslim Brotherhood devised it for precisely that purpose:

Now here’s a point you might deeply consider: The neologism “Islamophobia” did not simply emerge ex nihilo. It was invented, deliberately, by a Muslim Brotherhood front organization, the International Institute for Islamic Thought, which is based in Northern Virginia. If that name dimly rings a bell, it should: I’ve mentioned it before, and it’s particularly important because it was co-founded by Anwar Ibrahim–the hero of Moderate Islam who is now trotting around the globe comparing his plight to that of Aung San Suu Kyi.Abdur-Rahman Muhammad, a former member of the IIIT who has renounced the group in disgust, was an eyewitness to the creation of the word. “This loathsome term,” he writes,

is nothing more than a thought-terminating cliche conceived in the bowels of Muslim think tanks for the purpose of beating down critics.

And in fact, FBI statistics show that there is no “Islamophobia.” In fact, many “anti-Muslim hate crimes” have been faked by Muslims, and Jews are eight times more likely than Muslims to be the victims of hate attacks.

The Muslim Brotherhood is dedicated in its own words to “eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within.” One easy way to do that would be to guilt-trip non-Muslims into being ashamed of resisting jihad activity and Islamic supremacism, for fear of being accused of “Islamophobia.” I doubt these comics are aware of this program, but they’re useful tools for it.

“Muslim American comics’ tour and documentary,” by Tara Bahrampour in the Washington Post, December 27 (thanks to James):

Beware, America. The Muslims are coming, and they look and act suspiciously like you.

Sheesh. No one says they aren’t. This is just a straw man designed to demonize opponents of jihad.

Negin Farsad, an Iranian American stand-up comic from California, wears eye-catching mini dresses, curses liberally and has awkward sex talks with her mother (though hers sound more like alien encounters. Actual quote: “You had intergender flesh relations without the security of external safety product?”).

Then she has more to worry about from observant Muslims than she does from “Islamophobes.”

Such conversations, painfully private in traditional Muslim societies, are public fodder for Farsad and three other Gen X and Gen Y Muslim comics with whom she traveled to the deep South this past summer. The tour, which later extended to Western states and included other Muslim comics, will form the backbone of “The Muslims Are Coming!,” a documentary film about Islamophobia in America that Farsad is working on with Palestinian Italian American comedian Dean Obeidallah.

This is going to be the usual victimhood-mongering and deflecting of attention from the real causes of suspicion of Muslims in the U.S. Obeidallah contacted me and asked me to be interviewed for the piece, and assured me he would give me a fair hearing. But then he went on Twitter and called Pamela Geller a “Muslim-hater” — echoing the deceptive Islamic supremacist claim that fighting for free speech and equality of rights for all people is “hate.” His true agenda thus revealed, I bowed out of the interview.

The documentary, which includes interviews with comics such as Jon Stewart and Louis Black and commentators including CNN’s Soledad O’Brien, explores freedom of religion and what it means to be a minority in America.

Note the implication: that minorities have it so tough in America. No mention will be made, no doubt, of the far more precarious position of non-Muslim minorities in Muslim societies.

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  • http://callofthepatriot.blogspot.com HermitLion

    So, if muslims cease to follow islam, and turn into a productive, cooperative, peaceful society… then anyone who fears them truly would be an islamophobe :)

    • daniel rotter

      Huh? How exactly can a person be an "islamophobe" against a group of person (ex-Muslims) who, by very definition, aren't even Muslim to begin with?

      • daniel rotter

        yikes, meant "group of people"

  • kafir

    If muslims do the 5 things that Robert suggests, islam will cease to be. He is telling them to disavow the *essence* of islam. That 100% explains why terrorist supporting organizations and their terrorist supporters and hamas linked such as cair don't particulatly support Robert Spencer. His truthfulness is a threat to their very existance, but for Robert to suggest that they do away with all that makes islam islam just to become members of the greater society is absurd.

    Don't go see their comics. Don't hire them. Don't shop at their stores. Don't shop at stores that hire them, and explain to management why. It's a safety issue. You wouldn't walk into a room with snarling barking dogs when you couldn't identify which ones were rabid. It's like that with muslims. Not every snarling muslim in a room is a terrorist, but how can an infidel tell? He can't. He's not allowed. For that reason, best to ignore the snarls, the snapping, and the general bad attitude, and leave the animals alone.

    The only place I will submit is below…..to the right.

    • Beth

      "Don't go see their comics. Don't hire them. Don't shop at their stores"

      It is impossible to find anything funny coming from them after knowing what exactly it is that their koran teaches.

      To support them in any way – is just wrong.

    • daniel rotter

      Comparing Muslims to "snarling barking dogs?" Classy. That kind of dehumanization reminds me of the Nazis comparing Jews to rats.

      • hammer of toures

        or like your islam comparing jews to apes and pigs. islam apologists please go away ,and take the idiotic cast of "all american muslim" with you.

        • daniel rotter

          "…the idiotic…"

          From the person who hasn't yet grasped the concept of "capitalization."

          • daniel rotter

            "…or like your islam comparing jews to apes and pigs."

            Ah, from the "two wrongs make a right" school of argumentation.

      • Glennd1

        But the Jews of Germany were not engaged in a worldwide terror campaign, were they? No similarities at all. Islamists are anathema to anyone who shares classical liberal values. Period. It's pre-modern, repressive and condones and promotes violence. That's an unavoidable truth. Stop apologizing for Islam.

        • daniel rotter

          Not all practitioners of Islam are "engaged in a worldwide terror campaign" either, and yet that didn't stop "kafir" from dehumanizing even THESE Muslims by portraying them as snarling dogs.

          • Glennd1

            Hey, dispstick, I referred to Islamists, meaning the hundred of millions of Muslims around the world who want to establish a new caliphate – the rest I have no issue with. Check the polling data by Pew or others on this, you'll see I'm correct. Fyi, do yourself a favor, learn to argue better, you were just pwned and come off like a real douche. What I said in no way implied support for calling them snarling dogs. I do think Islamists are despicable though, how about you? You see, I don't think being moral includes being a delusional, suicidal moron – as you seem to.

          • daniel rotter

            "What I said in no way implied support for calling them snarling dogs."

            I never said anything to the contrary. Reading comprehension is not your specialty, I see.

            And yes, I think Islamists are despicable.

          • Steve

            I agree that we should be careful not to generalize and feel discrimination against all Muslims. And yet, and yet, and yet….over and over we not only experience Islamic terrorism, but both quiet Islamic support for Islamism and acquiescence. We know the Saudis finance many if not most mosques in the west. We know, and even heard on you tube, imams in these mosques preaching all kinds of Islamic supremacism, anti-Antisemitism, anti-Western, anti-Christian theology and politics. yet has even one of these imams been fired? Have any of these mosques told the Saudis we'll take your money but be entirely independent – and quit sending us your extremist imams.

            We know there are truly assimilated Muslims. We know these are the democrats, who believe in secular governance. But there's every reason to believe they are the minority. Their majority counterparts may appear assimilated, but in their heart of hearts they support most of the Islamist agenda. And that is why they don't fire the afore-mentioned imams. That is why they don't tell the Saudis to stuff it. That is they do not, pace Spencer's comment, make any efforts to change the way Islam is taught and understood by their peers. Until that time, broad based prejudice is a natural outcome. We cannot trust the Islamic community and every Muslim is suspect for Islamist leanings, unless they demonstrate otherwise in word and deeds.

            As an example. Calgary is a western Canadian city of over one million. Their mayor is Muslim. He attended and participated in the annual Chanukah candle lighting ceremony at city hall. And more: he thanked the Jewish community for supporting him politically and personally. And is entirely of the democratic process. He is genuinely assimilated and a democratic leader. Why aren`t there infinitely more like him?

  • Ben

    In the recent past western people feeled sympasy to Arabic Muslims and their struggle for independance(remember Laurence). Imagine that some other national group,Jewish for instance made the 9/11? the diasphora should have change the place of the living.But the Muslims cry of " Islamophobia", what an impudence!

  • StephenD

    Islamophobia: Fear of Islam
    IslamoLoather: Detester of Islam
    I am an avowed IslamoLoather.

    Listen, if they can tell jokes while people that practice the same beliefs cut the throats of 3 month old babies and they say nothing in condemnation except to point out those that would bring it up cause them some angst, then they are no different in my mind than the ones outwardly calling for supremacy. “The best of peoples” is what the Qur’an calls them…they seem to think it is true.

  • kafirman

    If Muslims would renounce Koran 9:29 (the Jizya tax) and Koran 4:3 (sanction to rape kafir women) I think Islamophobia would vaporize. But so then would Islam.

  • Mach1Dcuk

    I would only ask a Muslim, how many people has your Religion of Peace killed today?

    • daniel rotter

      …and then get a (deserved) smack in the mouth for asking such a question.

  • Tabris

    Phobia means having an IRRATIONAL fear.

    When you look around the world and see what Islam does to any other cultures, I don't think there is anything IRRATIONAL about having fear for Islam.

    Just call it what it is and start renaming islamophobia to ISLAMOFEAR and I think both sides will start understanding each other's position more clearly.

    Writers like Spencer should start admitting that we have a rational fear of losing our freedom, being submitted and society being hurled hundreds of years back in time.

    Only when people in the western society start understanding and feeling this RATIONAL fear of Islam the tide wave of the Muslim invasion can be turned around.

    Personally I don’t think that Islam can be changed for the better from the inside. It is a suppressive, authoritarian and brutal system that is devised in such a clever way that it is impossible to break from the inside. As a matter of fact any strategy that challenges it will only make it stronger and crueler. As long as Islam exists on this planet there will never be peace. In the future millions of people will fall victim to the excesses of Islam. Evidence shows that Islam cannot live in peace next to other cultures. Islam is an ideology that is on par with Nazism and Communism. Communism was dealt with by capitalism being economically superior over communism which led to severe shortages and eventually rebellion in the USSR. This strategy will not work on Islam. Nazism was dealt with in an all out war destroying 50 million people in the process and eradicating any sympathy for this ideology. This strategy will not work on Islam either and I hope nobody would ever want to go this way.

    Hence can anybody come up with a strategy would work to contain / curtail Islam so it will mute our RATIONAL fear of it?

    • leonidas

      We can defeat islam if:
      1) we protect the Apostates from islam from death anywhere in the world.
      2)Demand the Muslim women to have equal rights to males and punish those who do not accept to this basic Human Right

      3)Make the Koran widely available in all the languages, so people can read all of its 434 pages in it and see for themselvesit is a distorted copy of the Old Testament that commands the Muslims to kill Jews,christians,infidels who do not convert to Islam or spare their life if they agree to
      pay Jijya tax,that it oppresses women as inferior to males and that ALL women will go to hell,and muslims should never be friends with Jews,Christians,Infidels for they will "corrupt" the Muslims!

      4)The Hadith records all the mass murders,plunders,lies,pedophilia of Prophet Muhammad who therefore deserves no reverence but open contempt and ridicule!
      5)Join the ASPCA in banning Halal meat where the animals fully conscious have their throats slit and suffer a painful slow death!

      6)Ban Sharia Law
      7)Support politicians who are aware of the global threat Islam is to our freedoms,human rights,Women equality,Democracy and Constitution.Newt Gingrich is such a politician ,so support him!

      • dshevlin

        Newt is a progressive, we need a conservative because a conservative is a believer in Jesus Christ. Islam is satan's religion. Only Christ can destroy satan.

    • dshevlin

      Christ is the only strategy I can think of brother.

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  • LindaRivera

    Billions of dollars have been gifted to Western leaders' top FAVORITE Muslim terrorists, the PLO/Palestinian Authority Occupation Forces. They fill their war chests, build mansions and laugh all the way to the bank with FREE infidel money. No help is given to the many victims of Islam.

    This Christian man has been repeatedly attacked by Muslims since the nineties. It is VERY URGENT that he gets specialized medical help in America, or some other country quickly!

    christianpost: Muslim Extremists in Uganda Throw Acid on Bishop
    Burns threaten eyesight of church leader who opposed Islamic courts.

    …He poured the liquid onto my face as others poured more liquid on my back and then fled away shouting, ‘Allahu akbar [God is greater],’”

    “I have to continue fighting this pain – it is too much,” Mulinde said. “My entire body is in pain. Most of the night I miss sleep.”

    His face, neck and arms bore deep black scars from the acid, and his lips were swollen.

    “The burn caused by the acid is so severe that there is an urgent need for specialized treatment,” said area Christian Musa Baluku Symutsangira. “I suggest that he be flown outside the country as soon as possible; otherwise Mulinde might lose both of his eyes, coupled with the spread of the burns. The burns seemed to spread and go very deep. He might need some plastic surgery.”

    A doctor told Compass that acid burns cover about 30 percent of his face and has cost him sight in one eye.

    “We are doing all we can to save his other remaining eye and to contain the acid from spreading to other parts of the body,” the doctor said. http://www.christianpost.com/news/muslim-extremis

    • Beth

      How many in the west are aware of the number of women who have suffered this same horrid act in the name of ilsam? (not enough).

      The 'brotherhood' and groups such as cair (and the 'muslim comedians') never speak about it.

      • LindaRivera

        Beth,

        This dreadful cruelty is heartbreaking.

  • LindaRivera

    An Islamophobe is:

    A person who believes that ALL people should have human rights,

    and believes that ALL people are equal under the Law.

    In the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave, Muslims and Leftists are condemning and demonizing us because this is what we believe.

    • Daniel Rotter

      An ACTUAL Islamophobe opposes the airing of a TLC reality show because it shows a normal everyday American family that consists of (gasp!) practicing Muslims.

      • daniel rotter

        An ACTUAL Islamophobe also uses abuses the English language to laughably characterize a boycott targeted against an individual as "strong-arming" that person ("New York Muslim leaders try to strong-arm Bloomberg into dropping his anti-terror efforts by boycotting his interfaith breakfast"-the link,is on the right hand side of this page under Jihad Watch. Funny how, if you read the actual article, it's not JUST Muslims who participated in the boycotting…but that's not reflected in the headline, of course).

  • ObamaYoMoma

    The fact that there are other Muslims not fighting jihad is just great, but it doesn’t mean that the jihad isn’t happening.

    Actually, EVERY MUSLIM ON EARTH, per the sixth and most important pillar of Islam, is obligated to fight jihad in the cause of Allah against non-Muslim unbelievers to make Islam supreme. As a matter of fact, the sixth and most important pillar of Islam doesn't make it an obligatory duty only for so-called “RADICAL MUSLIMS” to fight jihad in the cause of Allah, and the sixth and most important pillar of Islam doesn't make it an obligatory duty only for so-called “EXTREMIST MUSLIMS” to fight jihad in the cause of Allah, and the sixth and most important pillar of Islam doesn't make it an obligatory duty only for so-called “ISLAMIST MUSLIMS” to fight jihad in the cause of Allah, while at the same time giving an exemption and free pass to so-called “MODERATE MUSLIMS” to fight jihad in the cause of Allah. Instead, the sixth and most important pillar of Islam makes it an obligatory duty for ALL MUSLIMS ON EARTH to fight jihad in the cause of Allah against non-Muslim unbelievers to make Islam supreme. No exceptions.

    Hence, ALL MAINSTREAM ORTHODOX MUSLIMS ON EARH are jihadists. A small minority of them are violent jihadists, while the vast overwhelming majority of them are non-violent stealth and deceptive jihadists, and the few that are not jihadists are not Muslims at all, but instead blasphemous apostates that per the dictates of Islam must be executed.

    In addition, non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad relative to violent jihad is employed by the Islamic world against the West astronomically far more prevalently relative to violent jihad. Furthermore, there are also astronomically far more non-violent stealth and deceptive jihadists in the world today relative to violent jihadists, and the preponderance of those non-violent stealth and deceptive jihadists view violent jihad attacks – such as the 9/11 jihad attacks – as being exceedingly counterproductive and harmful because it not only invites war against Muslims, but it also attracts unwanted close scrutiny,, attention, and focus on Islam.

    As a matter of fact, the biggest advocates of violent jihad in the world today, AQ, for years has been waging jihad against the leading proponents of non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad, the Saudis and the Gulf States Emirs. Thus, even though the faction of violent jihadists and the much larger faction of non-violent stealth and deceptive jihadists both agree on the same exact goal to make Islam supreme, they nevertheless violently disagree on the preferred strategy and tactics employed to obtain that goal.

    Therefore, those Muslims mentioned above by Robert allegedly not fighting jihad is a wrong assumption, as they are indeed really non-violent stealth and deceptive jihadists living in America as a fifth column, as mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage to the West for the purpose of stealth demographic conquest is the most prevalent form of non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad employed by the Islamic world against the West today.

    As a matter of fact, Muslims never ever migrate to the West or anywhere else for that matter to assimilate and integrate, but instead to eventually subjugate and dominate via the eventual imposition of Sharia for the purpose of stealth demographic conquest to make Islam supreme.

    Indeed, in country after country and anywhere and everywhere mass Muslim immigration is occurring in the world today, just like clockwork the vast overwhelming majority of Muslim immigrants flat out refuse to assimilate and integrate and instead form segregated Muslim only enclaves that in time inevitably morph into Muslim no-go zones ruled by Sharia as fifth columns and in direct contravention to the laws of the states in which they reside. In fact, a few years ago the government of France counted 758 such Muslim no-go zones ruled by Sharia in France alone.

    In any event, the reason that non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad is able to take place completely below the radar and totally undetected, unacknowledged, and unopposed today is per the dictates of PC multiculturalism, jihad, which can be both violent and non-violent, is always conflated and morally equated with terrorism, which as its name implies is always only violent. Thus, even though in reality jihad and terrorism are actually two very separate and mutually exclusive manifestations and indeed two entirely different and very distinct things altogether, per the dictates of PC multiculturalism, they are nevertheless construed as being the same thing.

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    • Beth

      "The fact that there are other Muslims not fighting jihad is just great, but it doesn’t mean that the jihad isn’t happening"

      I caught that too.

      From the words of their own prophet:

      004.095 Not equal are those believers who sit at home and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons… those who strive and fight hath He distinguished above those who sit at home by a special reward.

      002.216 Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing [war] which is good for you and that ye love a thing [peace] which is bad for you?

      • Beth

        Almost forgot…..

        004.094 O ye who believe! When ye go abroad in the cause of Allah, investigate carefully, and say not to any one who offers you a salutation: "Thou art none of a believer!" Therefore carefully investigate. {they are to keep their intentions hidden)

        003.028 Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. Whoso doeth that hath no connection with Allah unless it be that ye but guard yourselves against them, taking as it were security. {telling lies to non-muslims is a command for muslims)

        I wonder how many members of the audiences of 'muslim comedians' would find them funny upon learning that truth?

  • ObamaYoMoma

    Hence, per the dictates of PC multiculturalism, if it isn't violent, and mass Muslim immigration to the West for the purpose of stealth demographic conquest, of course, by design since it is non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad isn't violent, then per the dictates of PC multiculturalism it isn't terrorism, and since it isn't terrorism, then it's unopposed and in many cases even encouraged.

    Indeed, conflating and morally equating jihad and terrorism together as being equal and the same, per the dictates of PC multiculturalism, just like conflating and morally equating all civilizations, cultures, and societies together as all being equal and the same, again per the dictates of PC multiculturalism, is by far the biggest mistake the West is making today, as it opens up the door wide open for stealth demographic conquest, which is the most prevalent form of non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad employed by the Islamic world against the West, to take place completely below the radar and totally undetected, unacknowledged, and unopposed.

    This comedy show simply doesn’t address the problem of jihad terrorism and Islamic supremacism.

    Actually, there is no such thing as jihad terrorism. Instead, there is jihad and then there is terrorism. In fact, jihad and terrorism are actually two very separate and mutually exclusive manifestations and indeed two entirely different and very distinct things altogether,

    For instance, Jihad is holy fighting in the cause of Allah against non-Muslim unbelievers to make Islam supreme, in stark contrast to terrorism can be both violent, as in the 9/11 jihad attacks, and non-violent, as in mass Muslim immigration to the West for the purpose of stealth demographic conquest to make Islam supreme, targets specifically non-Muslim unbelievers, both civilian non-combatants like in the Madrid Train Bombing and military combatants like US troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, and is always fought by mainstream orthodox Muslims only called jihadists or mujahideen.

    Whereas terrorism, in stark contrast to jihad, which is always only in the cause of Allah, can be for any number of political causes unlike jihad, and as its name implies is always only violent as opposed to jihad which can be both violent and non-violent. In addition, terrorism indiscriminately targets civilian non-combatants as opposed to jihad that specifically targets primarily non-Muslim unbelievers, and is always perpetrated by Western extremists that are called terrorists.

    Indeed, jihad is a manifestation of the Islamic world only, while terrorism, on the other hand, is a manifestation of the Western world only. In fact, Muslims never ever perpetrate acts of terrorism because it is a Western manifestation only and therefore un-Islamic and blasphemous. Incidentally, it is also the reason why Muslims can honestly denounce terrorism with a straight face.

    Thus, the moral of the story is for the West to stop conflating and morally equating jihad and terrorism ASAP as being the same exact thing per the dictates of PC multiculturalism.

    As a matter of fact, if we correctly differentiated between jihad and terrorism instead of always conflating both together, per the tenets of PC multiculturalism, then loons like Ron Paul and Obama's former pastor, Rev. Wright, couldn't claim that 9/11 was America's chickens coming home to roost, as the 9/11 jihad attacks would be correctly construed as acts of violent jihad in the cause of Allah against non-Muslim unbeliever to make Islam supreme. And when Obama's terrorism chief, John Brennan, absurdly claims that it is counterproductive to call a jihadist a jihadist, he would get laughed out of Washington DC for being the gross mentally deficient loon he is.

    • Western Canadian

      Mo himself puts an end to your irrational rant regarding jihad/terrorism…. He admitted to becoming successful through terrorism. The same nonsense could be applied to the other great threat to freedom and humanity in the last century, communism. (A soft, supportive approach to local ‘revolutionaries, with no threat. Until it was time to consolodate power and control.) You are so far off the mark, it is hard to tell if you are serious, or just playing word games.

      • ObamaYoMoma

        Mo himself puts an end to your irrational rant regarding jihad/terrorism….

        You are from Canada and Canadians are all indoctrinated to accept the ideology of PC multiculturalism cradle to grave. Hence, it's not surprising to me that you have been rendered into a perpetual gullible useful idiot via your indoctrination into PC multiculturalism. Indeed, you are sort of like Muslims, in that they were also indoctrinated cradle to grave into Islam.

        Additionally, it is not my fault that you are a product of the inferior Canadian education system, thus it is also not my fault that you don't posses the level of intellectual sophistication necessary to grasp the fact that PC multiculturalism is an extremely self-destructive manifestation.

        He admitted to becoming successful through terrorism.

        No, not quite. Western scholars translating the writings of Muhammad's earliest biographers translated their words into similar Western words. Thus, since there is no similar manifestation to jihad that occurs in the West, as jihad is a manifestation of Islamic civilization only, they mislabeled jihad as being terrorism, even though jihad can can be both violent and non-violent unlike terrorism, which as its name implies can only be violent, and even though jihad can only be in the cause of Allah, while terrorism, on the other hand, can be for any number of political causes.

        Indeed, the Oklahoma City Bombing and the Anders Breivik terrorist attack were not perpetrated in the cause of Allah and were also perpetrated by Westerners, while the the 9/11 jihad attacks and the Madrid Train Bombings were both in the cause of Allah and both perpetrated by mainstream orthodox Muslims.

        Additional glaring differences between jihad and terrorism would be jihadists are mainstream orthodox Muslims, while terrorists are political extremists. Jihad specifically targets non-Muslims unbelievers only, either civilian non-combatants like in the Madrid Train Bombing or military combatants like US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, while terrorism targets civilian non-combatants indiscriminately

        The same nonsense could be applied to the other great threat to freedom and humanity in the last century, communism.

        In other words, according to you, per the dictates of PC multiculturalism, Islamic totalitarianism and the other great threats to freedom and humanity such as Communism, for instance, can also likewise be conflated and morally equated together exactly like all civilizations, cultures, and societies are also always conflated and morally equated together today as all being equal and the same, per the dictates of PC multiculturalism, Therefore, according to you, jihad and terrorism, which are two separate and mutually exclusive manifestations and indeed two entirely different and very distinct things altogether, should also always be conflated and morally equated together, per the dictates of PC multiculturalism,

        Nevertheless, I hate to rain on your brain washed parade, but PC multiculturalism, which in reality is a form of Leftist cultural Communism designed to destroy homogenous and united societies from within, is not only incredibly self-destructive, it is also a cancer as once it infects societies it is almost impossible to eradicate, as you are a living testament to.

        Indeed, if you believe that all civilizations, cultures, and societies are all equal and the same, then I have a bridge I need to sell you, as there is no way that backwards and barbaric Islamic civilization is remotely equal to Western civilization.

        While Islam is far closer to Communism than it is to being a religion, as just like Communism, Islam seeks world domination, and the end result of Islam, exactly like Communism, is totalitarianism and lots and lots of misery. There are nonetheless also very major glaring differences as well. Hence, anyone suggesting that Communism and Islam are one and the same, per the dictates of PC multiculturalism, is obviously an unhinged loon like you blinded by PC multiculturalism

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      • ObamaYoMoma

        Likewise, just like conflating and morally equating all civilizations, cultures, and societies together as all being equal and the same is totally bankrupt, and conflating and morally equating Islam and Communism as being equal and the same is also totally bankrupt, conflating and morally equating jihad and terrorism together as being equal and the same is also totally bankrupt, since jihad and terrorism are two separate and mutually exclusive manifestations and in fact two entirely different and very distinct things altogether. As PC multiculturalism in all of its many incarnations is totally bankrupt and extremely self-destructive.

        Nevertheless, conflating and morally equating jihad with terrorism together as being equal and the same, per the dictates of PC multiculturalism, enables the many non-violent stealth and deceptive varieties of jihad, which relative to the violent varieties of jihad is employed against the West astronomically far more prevalently, to occur today throughout the West completely below the radar of scrutiny and totally undetected, unacknowledged, and unopposed.

        As a matter of fact, mass Muslim immigration to the West with all of its excess baggage for the purpose of stealth demographic conquest to make Islam supreme, is the most prevalent form of non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad employed by the Islamic world against the West today. Yet, it occurs today throughout the West, including in America and Canada, completely below the radar of scrutiny and totally undetected, unacknowledged, and unopposed thanks to PC multiculturalism.

        Why? Because jihad and terrorism, per the dictates of PC multiculturalism, is always conflated and morally equated together as being the same thing. Thus, when jihad, which can be both violent and non-violent, gets conflated and morally equated together with terrorism, which as its name implies can only be violent, it enables the many varieties of non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad, such as stealth demographic conquest, to occur completely below the radar of scrutiny and totally undetected, unacknowledged, and unopposed. Not to mention that non-violent varieties of stealth and deceptive jihad relative to violent varieties of jihad are employed today against the west by the Islamic world astronomically far more prevalently.

        Indeed, per the dictates of PC multiculturalism, if a manifestation such as non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad isn't violent, then it isn't construed as being terrorism, and if it isn't construed as being terrorism, then it isn't opposed and in many cases is often actually encouraged.

        As a matter of fact, per the dictates of PC multiculturalism, mass Muslim immigration to the West for the purpose of stealth demographic conquest with all of its excess baggage is conflated and morally equated with legal immigration of other immigrant groups. Despite the fact that Muslims never ever migrate to the West or anywhere else for that matter to assimilate and integrate, but instead to eventually subjugate and dominate via the eventual imposition of Sharia for the purpose of stealth demographic conquest to make Islam supreme.

        You are so far off the mark, it is hard to tell if you are serious, or just playing word games.

        Actually, considering the fact that you have been indoctrinated cradle to grave to believe in the tenets of PC multiculturalism and the fact that you are the product of a far inferior Canadian education system, it is not surprising to me in the least at all that you don't possess the level of intellectual sophistication necessary to understand how incredibly self-destructive PC multiculturalism really is.

        Anyway, I recommend you never immigrate to America as you will have a very hard time finding a job that isn't menial labor.

  • Ghostwriter

    I agree fully with that article. Now if only those like Bashy Quraishy in Belgium would agree with such things,Islam might gain some acceptance. As it stand now,it has little chance of doing so.

  • Stuart Parsons

    The so-called moderate Muslims still believe the Quran to be the word of the God and the Sunnah to be the example of their perfect 'Prophet' and we do not see them praying in their mosques for Allah to stop the terrorism or marching in the streets with banners denouncing the terrorists. Indeed, the likelihood is, that if they did, they would be terrorized by their more actively militant co-religionists. But not to worry Allah knows best.

    • http://www.western-civilisation.com CrossofMalta

      Islam is Racist and Supremacist. A nice mixture no ? Why bother to change if you are destined to rule the Infidel pigs and monkeys. Islam Uber Alles.

    • daniel rotter

      "…we do not see them praying in their mosques for Allah to stop the terrorism…"

      What?! How could you possibly know this, do you have hidden cameras recording mosque services or something?

  • http://www.western-civilisation.com CrossofMalta

    The problem is this: Islam is a cult, not a religion. Once you define the Muhammadan cult for what it is, Islamophobia disappears. The religious standing of the cult is denuded, and the cult can be analysed for what it is and was – a sex cult; a cult to steal and plunder; a cult of political power; a cult to eradicate the Jews and Christians. Islam is pagan and fascist. All cults are pagan and fascist. The main area I disagree with Robert on is that fact – he terms Islam a religion. It isn't. And if you keep according it that special status Moslems will never be obligated to rewrite their Mein Koran, or to disavow the slavery of the mind and body that Islam demands.

    • daniel rotter

      Sorry but "cult" and "religion" are NOT automatically mutually exclusive. Here's Merriam-Webster's Dictionary's definitions of the former word (the emphases are mine): cult n. 1: formal RELIGIOUS veneration 2: a RELIGIOUS system and 3: a faddish devotion.

      (Predicting that CoM will cling to the third definition as vindication, since it doesn't have any "religious" mention): Islam has been around for centuries so I hardly think it qualifies as a "faddish" devotion.

  • gfmucci

    And the chance of those 5 things being done at the urging of Islamic leaders is how much above 0.000% ?

  • Oleg

    If Muslims don't change their ways there will be no Muslims left in three generations, four at the most. Islam is on the brink of becoming the fastest dying religion in human history, it is going from infancy to senility and bypassing adulthood. Any religion or belief system that has to insulate itself from exposure to outside ideas to maintain a lie, along with relying on forced conversion to it's way of living to to perpetuate itself is going to collapse. Christianity had to reform and reinvent itself numerous times, along with the sects and denominations within Christianity and it has done so through questioning itself, Islam and most Muslims seem incapable or unwilling to do so.

  • Oleg

    As a result in places like Iran, for example, mosque attendance is falling faster then the birth rate. People who do not subscribe to the state run interperetation of their religion vote with their feet and walk out since questioning that interpretation is out of the question. We may find that when the theocratic regime collapes in that country that the only believers were the clergy, the revoltionary guard, and the religious police, and everyone else was just going through the motions, much like the old Soviet union.

  • curmudgeon

    asswhipe muslims can end islamophobia any time they want to . all they have to do is. 1. pack up their prayer rugs, their multiple illegal polygamous welfare wives, their turbans, their aks, their c4, and their hate filled korans, and reimmigrate back to some filthy hellhole that loves people like them. 2. stop murdering infidels. 3. stop enslaving innocent people. 4. stop making false accusations of islamophobia. 5. stop genociding whole populations that dont worship their evil god. 6. stop molesting little girls. 7. stop mutilating the genitals of little girls who have the dire misfortune of being borne into a hate filled islamic family. 7. stop robbing. 8. stop lying. 9. stop molesting camels, and other animals.

    • jen

      You forgot: stop molesting little boys.

  • curmudgeon

    10. stop abusing animals by insisting on killing then while they are awake and able to hear the stupidity of the prophet while their throats are cut by islamic monsters who are fantasizind that they are cutting infidel throats instead of animals. 11. stop raping kafirs. 12. stop being murderous, blasphemous, evil muslims. do that, wonderful practitioners of the religion of peace, and i guarantee, there will be no "islamophobia".

  • Zehrah

    Please don't use the word Jihad synonymously with terrorist-related acts. "Jihad" "Jihadists"… these terrorists have ruined the essence and true meaning of Jihad, the struggle to do that which is moral and right… And using it to be synonymous to war and terror and killing is not doing anything to help Islamophobia.

    And though Muslims here do live better lives than those in various other Muslim states, it's not always the case. In fact, it's not right that we should just merely be thankful that we're living better lives than others when we're being discriminated against so frequently. "Oh so what if people call you names and you're denied jobs that you are perfectly qualified for solely based on your religion, you have it better off than other Muslims." But aren't we also American citizens, and deserve the same rights and non-prejudiced treatment? Instead of comparing the lives of Muslims here to the lives of Muslims in other countries… compare the lives of American citizens who are Muslim to other American citizens.

    and the idea that American and Israeli citizens are innocent people shouldn't be considered a "new" teaching. Not very fond of how that was worded. If a person is innocent, he/she is innocent, regardless of what nationality, that is what is taught in any of the centers I've been to. Claiming this to be something "new" to Muslims and Muslim centers is rather ignorant, like most of us aren't aware of what innocent is and isn't.

    and no one is going to replace the Constitution with Sharia law… if anything Muslims would want Sharia law to apply to THEM… no one's trying to shove it down other people's throats. and it'd be ridiculous even if they did, because it definitely won't be allowed to happen. Besides, if you're not a practicing Muslim, then you're not gonna be worried about Sharia … and it's even more ridiculous for people to be fearful of this. If all the rules and laws in the Bible aren't enforced on people in this country, what makes them think any other religion's rules would be enforced?

    • ObamaYoMoma

      Please don't use the word Jihad synonymously with terrorist-related acts. "Jihad" "Jihadists"… these terrorists have ruined the essence and true meaning of Jihad, the struggle to do that which is moral and right… And using it to be synonymous to war and terror and killing is not doing anything to help Islamophobia.

      I hate to rain on you taqiyya spewing parade Zehrah, but jihad is actually the sixth and most important pillar of Islam, and it makes it an obligatory duty in Islam for EVERY MUSLIM ON EARTH to fight jihad in the cause of Allah against non-Muslim unbeliever to make Islam supreme.

      In addition, the infamous sword verses of the Koran that command ALL MUSLIMS ON EARTH to fight jihad in the cause of Allah against non-Muslim unbelievers to make Islam supreme, were also some of the very last verses issued by Muhammad shortly before he died. Thus, per the doctrine of abrogation, which as you know is universally accepted by all schools of Islamic jurisprudence in both Sunni and Shi'a Islam, and therefore universally accepted by all of Islam, all earlier issued verses of the Koran that they conflict with and contradict are abrogated, i.e., superseded and replaced, by those sword verses that command ALL MUSLIMS ON EARTH to fight jihad in the cause of Allah against non-Muslim unbelievers to make Islam supreme. Hence Zehrah, why don't you go sell your garbage to Canadians or gullible Euroloons since their indoctrination into PC multiculturalism will make them more readily swallow your taqiyya.

      By the way, you can stick your Islamophobia nonsense up where the sun doesn't shine.

    • pagegl

      Ibrahim Hooper of CAIR, and other Muslims, have stated that they would like to see Sharia replace the Constitution. Feisal Rauf, the Cordoba project imam, wants to insure that the application of the Constitution does not interfere with Sharia law, so, he's splitting hairs here, he can claim he has never said he wants to replace the Constitution, but he wants to make sure it does not have precedence over Sharia law.

      If Sharia is the law of the land then as someone who does not practice Islam I have everything to fear. I must submit to Sharia. I will, by definition in Sharia be a second class citizen. I cannot practice my religion, speak my mind openly, or do anything a Muslim regards as against Islam. Finally, if I choose to ignore Sharia's dictates for me I can be killed.

      While other religions may not require enforcement of their dictates on non-religionists, Islam does.

    • Glennd1

      You are aware that your Muslim bretheren have committed over 18,000 acts of violent Jihad around the world since 9/11, yes? That number doesn't include military battles with U.S. and other forces fyi. No other religion in the world even comes close. And killing infidels is called for as part of Jihad. While what you say is technically true about Jihad, it's at best, incomplete.

      As for your suggestion that Muslims can opt out of our laws and constitution by submitting only themselves to Sha'ria – NO THANKS. Everyone here is bound only by the U.S. constitution, there is no other law in the U.S. For you to even suggest such a thing tells me that you don't even understand the freedom you enjoy here, how it came to be or the west's history of state/religious entanglement that led us to our 'secular' state. If you want to live under Sha'ria – leave the U.S. We don't want you here. Period.

      The above isn't 'Islamaphobia' – cuz I'm not afraid of you or any other Muslim. Rather, I loathe your pre-modern, illiberal and barbaric religious code and the horrific acts some of your brothers commit in it's name. You see, it's not "bigotry" if it's not inherent in you. Religion is a matter of personal conscience and if your conscience tells you to follow a depraved, violent and repressive religion like Islam, I can quite rightly hold you and others who do the same in low regard without resorting to any bigotry. Fyi, I feel the same way about fundamentalist Christians and other religious zealots – but they aren't killing people left and right like the Muslims do.

      Finally, you should know that Americans do have a breaking point. We locked up most Japanese immigrants and quite a few Germans during WWII and even thought we wrung our hands about it later, I'm sure if the aggression against us increases, we would lock every last one of you up to. I'd turn the key. My adherence to liberal values in no way makes me have to tolerate the violence so many Islamists direct at us. Just like your friends in Gitmo, I could care less if you all rot in jail for until you die if you don't watch it. We are very close to that point – and morons like you don't realize it.

      You want to live here? Play by OUR RULES and defend and support this country. You don't like it? Get the hell out and don't let the door hit you in the ass.

  • daniel rotter

    ,,,called Pamela Geller a "Muslim-Hater"-

    Which she is.

    "…echoing the deceptive Islamic supremacist claim that fighting for free speech and equality of rights for all people is "hate."

    A Muslim hater who fights for free speech and equality of rights for all people is still a Muslim hater.

    • hammer of toures

      can you please inform us infidels what it is about islam that you love so much? please mr apologist for murder and mayhem, tell us what you love about your filthy koran?

      • daniel rotter

        Educate yourself about capitalization, moron.

    • Glennd1

      Indeed. This is a blind spot that Spencer will not give up on. Pamela Geller is a hateful moron, spreading agit prop and hysteria. Spencer, on the other hand, is erudite, measured and scholarly in his criticism of Islam – even as he is biting. He never crosses the line – while Geller does in virtually every blog post she writes. Which is of course to be expected as she is an uneducated, Long Island big mouth who thinks far too highly of herself and her views. But Spencer has gone way to far down the rabbit hole with her. Spencer sees her as an ally – which Spencer doesn't seem to realize reduces the esteem many of us hold him significantly.

      Not too long ago Spencer crosslinked an article Geller had posted on WolrdNetDaily – a hateful and conspiracy-mongering cesspool. I wrote Spencer to caution him about those kind of associations. He responded with evasive excuses saying he wasn't responsible for links to sites where content other than he was posting might be offensive. I wrote him back, telling him how false that was, citing two blogs I publish and many other's blogger's practices around linking. Most of us will not link to sites that we find objectionable as it does reflect upon us but Spencer seems to think none of that matters. He responded by telling me not to fall for the left-wing media hype about him and Geller. I was sorely disappointed. If he doesn't want to fall out of the company of civil people, he should choose the company he keeps much more carefully.

      • scum

        Sort of like Horowitz and FPM publishing trash from American Renaissance. Amazing that they would, but they do.

  • KKKK

    i think that the saftest way to end Islamophobia is to end pislam itself.

    • daniel rotter

      "I think the safest way to end anti-Semitism is to end Judaism itself."-Same, ahem, "logic," bigot.

      • Glennd1

        But of course there is no widespread, significant or official discrimination against Muslims in the U.S. so there is nothing to end. Your wiseass approach seems to have missed that somehow.

        • daniel rotter

          Where did I go wrong? I was just following KKKK's line of (un)thinking. Just as there can be no Islamophobia if there is no Islam, there can be no anti-Semitism if there is no Judaism.

    • scum

      Or kill all the Poslems.

  • esperantominoria

    The latest news!Elisabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff has been condemned in Austria for saying Mohammad was a pedophile.

    Even though it is true,technically,she is condemned for "denigrating religious beliefs",in other words,for Blasphemy..

    Wow,where is respect for Freedom of Speech.
    She said it based on evidence,read:

    "Documentary Evidence that Aisha Consummated her Marriage with Muhammad at age 9"
    http://www.antisharia.com/2011/04/12/documentary-

    "Is it Possible Aisha had her First Menstruation at 7?If one accepts Bukhari, then yes"
    http://www.antisharia.com/2011/07/20/is-it-possib

    "Video by Hamza Yusuf where he actually says Aisha was an Adult when she Consummated her Marriage with Muhammad"
    http://www.antisharia.com/2011/07/04/video-by-ham

    AND ALSO:

    AND ALSO

    Among the Leftists who are in that situation we have Noam Chomsky and Norman Finkelstein,who are both Jewish.See this video:

    "Shocking Video where Norman Finkelstein,a Jew who is Anti-Israel,makes a University Girl Cry"
    http://www.antisharia.com/2011/12/31/shocking-vid

    • Glennd1

      Please, that crying girl was using her tears as emotional blackmail to excuse the horrendous crimes of Zionism. She used the Jewish fear trump card on Finkelstein, which is supposed to give Zionists license to do anything they want, and he put her in her place. She reminded me of my daughter when she was little, using tears to make me feel bad. The day I stopped paying attention to it is the day she stopped. More substantially, I dare you to factually dispute any of what Finkelstein says there, or elsewhere for that matter.

  • Beth

    Farsad said. “We’re never going to be able to touch the extreme haters. .?.?. We’re trying to affect the people in the middle, people with questions, the ‘persuadables' "

    At the risk of sounding like a broken record…..

    Taught in the Koran:

    047.004 – Beheadings

    033.052 – Gang Rape of female 'infidels'

    005.033 – Crucifixions (yes, it actually promotes "crucifixions")

    008.067 – Treason

    033.061 – Genocide "without mercy"

    005.041 – Racism…..

    There's nothing funny about those teachings. Is it 'ilsamophobic' to present that truth to "the ‘persuadables" Farsad???

    If you support murderous teachings (goes for Obeidallah too)….you're a murderer.

    For those who say the Bible is no better, the last commands of the Bible are (of which none can argue):

    Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

    Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

    Therein lies the difference when it comes to the wisdom of teaching our children which way to be for making their own future better.

    Let the words of the teachings speak for themselves Farsad and Obeidallah. Unless you have something to hide.

    It is written "A man who loves his wife loves himself". The same can be said of his own children.

  • BS77

    PHOBIA denotes an "irrational" fear……a rational fear is grounded in reality. Some fears are extremely rational. If you aren't fearful of certain things, perhaps you are not paying attention to the actual danger. If I was a Christian living in Nigeria or Egypt it would be realistic and rational to feel fear.

    • randy

      The natives felt fear when the christians were stealing north america

      • Durin

        How is this related to the article? Some people from a different group than one being discussed did something bad to people in a third group in the past therefore …what? Connect the dots please.

  • Beth

    Taught in the koran:

    004.094 O ye who believe! When ye go abroad in the cause of Allah, investigate carefully, and say not to any one who offers you a salutation: "Thou art none of a believer!" Therefore carefully investigate. {they are to keep their intentions hidden)

    003.028 Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. Whoso doeth that hath no connection with Allah unless it be that ye but guard yourselves against them, taking as it were security. {telling lies to non-muslims is a command for muslims)

    I wonder how many members of the audiences of 'muslim comedians' would find them funny upon learning that truth?

  • daniel rotter

    "This is going to be the usual victim-mongering…"

    Exactly the words I thought when I saw the cover and title of the pamphlet you co-wrote, Mr. Spencer. Oh, the irony. Oh, the lack of self-awareness, lol.

    • Glennd1

      So you think there is actually something called 'Islamophobia' going on? Do you have any data to support that contention? CAIR has already been disqualified as a trusted source, fyi, so you have to do better. Perhaps you are confused between dislike, disrespect, loathing, disdain and "phobia"? I despise the Muslim faith – as I do all religions. It's adherents are killing people at an insane pace recently and make little contribution to the world (just look at the innovation, inventions, awards, etc from the Muslim world since the 13th century on – zip, nada). There is nothing that requires any American to like or even be 'tolerant' of Islam. We are free to form our own opinions of it, and many of us find it vile based on what it stands for and what it's adherents do.

      • randy

        Christianity should be banned in america for all the harm christians did to the natives

      • daniel rotter

        "Do you have any data to support that contention."

        The hissy fit thrown by Geller, Spencer, Caton, and others over the innocuous "All-American Muslim" program.

        The attempt to write Islam out of the 1st Amendment by declaring it isn't a religion.

        The advocation, made by conservatives(Tim Wildmon, Bryan Fischer, and a state legislator in Tennessee, whose name I don't remember) of throwing all Muslims out of the U.S. military.

        The First-Amendment-shredding attempt to legally block the building of an Islamic cultural center near Ground Zero in New York.

        The usage of the term "Islamic supremacism" by people (Geller, Spencer) who literally NEVER utter the second word in relation to any other religion ("Christian supremacism," "Jewish supremacism," "Hindu supremacism," etc.).

        The comparison of all Muslims to snarling dogs (kafir, in this thread).

        The advocation of imploring employees not to hire people because they are Muslim (kafir, again, in the same comment as the "snarling dogs" one).

        The hissy fit that some anti-Muslim activists (Spencer, Frank Gaffney) threw over Chris Christie appointing a judge who happened to be Muslim (even though their main line of contention against the latter individual-that, as a lawyer, he represented an Islamic terrorist in court-involved the would-be judge getting his client TO PLEAD GUILTY to the charges).

        The "all I need to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11" mantra.

        That enough data for you?

        • Glennd1

          You call that "data"? It's weak polemic. I'll skewer just a few of your statements just to show the folks following along at home how insipid you are.

          1. Opposition to the mosque near ground zerio isn't 'islamophobia' – it's opposition to what is perceived as a moral insult (and a cultural center with a mosque in it is still a mosque).
          2. Defining Islam as a political movement versus other religions. Well, Sha'ria is a totalitarian, authoritarian system for running society unlike Christianity or Judaism. Many of its adherents and important clerics openly discuss their goal of overthrowing western governments, describing it as a sacred duty. Classifying a belief system correctly isn't "phobia" or bigotry, it's called fact based discussion and policy development.

          Go peddle your weak thinking to folks who don't realize how truly silly you are.

          • Glennd1

            I really have to deal with you a bit more. You see, if we opposed mosques wherever they were going to be built or even in many instances, well then okay, that might be evidence of bias and poor treatment of Muslims. But this instance is very specific and the folks there have a grievance they want aired. I also am a New Yorker and missed being in the WTC by one day as I often had business meetings there.

            Maybe it's hard for a little weasel like you to imagine it, but it's not abstract to me. For a Muslim to even suggest that building an 'Islamic Cultural Center' within spitting distance of where the towers came down is an affront to our sensibility as a community. I mean, you are so concerned with the 'sensitivities' of Muslim's to insult, where is your sensitivity to our own culture and sensibilities? It seems your "compassion" only goes in one direction. And, for your information, nothing gets built without community approval in NYC – and the fact that community just doesn't want it is a perfectly acceptable reason to not grant new construction permits in NYC – it happens every day, why should the Muslims have special privileges?

          • daniel rotter

            You make a much broader argument here than just the "Islamic community center near Ground Zero" issue: "…and the fact that community just doesn't want it is a perfectly acceptable reason to not grant new construction permits in NYC."

            I'm sure you'd have the same attitude towards a NYC community's resistance of the proposed building of, say, a synagogue in its neighborhood…you being the "consistent sort," of course; after all, "the fact that community just doesn't want it is a perfectly acceptance reason to not grant new construction permits in NYC-it happens every day, why should the Jews have special privileges?"

          • daniel rotter

            There's two typos in a sentence in your last post. Here, let me fix that for you: "Well, Sha'ria is a totalitarian, authoritarian system for running society, like Christianity and Judaism."

          • daniel rotter

            Google "Santorum's plan for Christian sharia," to give you a specific example of the "Christianity" part of what I wrote.

          • Glennd1

            But of course it's not. Sha'ria doctrine is very specific about courts, laws, contracts, financial arrangements, the power of clergy in public life – none of which exists in either Christianity or Judaism – no matter how much you say it's so.

            There are Christians like the Dominionists and other evangos and Glenn Beck koolaid drinkers who want what I describe as a 'Christian Communitarian' society in which their values are imbued throughout society and govt but that is not the same thing as what Sha'ria proposes. It's still revolting and Santorum is a dik, but apparently you are an even bigger dik than him.

          • daniel rotter

            "…but that is not the same thing as what Sha'ria proposes."

            You're correct! Santorum's world would involve a Christian theocracy. The Sha'ria version of this would be a Muslim theocracy.

          • Glennd1

            Again, your simplistic mind that apparently has been infected by a rabid need to make tiny, meaningless points that you seem to consider "victories" shows you up for the know-nothing that you are. If you don't understand that Sha'ria is a complete philosophy and and governing structure for society that is utterly different from the teachings of Christianity, then you are simply ignorant.

            Now let me move really slow for you here so you can keep up. That doesn't mean that some fundos/evangos don't want to turn us into a Christian nation (which I despise) but the very nature of the Koran and the New Testament are quite different. The Koran is more like the Old Testament. But even the old testament doesn't lay out a structure and set of laws for all of society (and don't try and call the 10 commandments the same thing as Sha'ria). You have a poorly developed mind, and make huge mistakes in your hurry to make a cheap point, while leaving opportunity to have actually revealing discussion on the table. Stop trying to "win" this argument – there is nothing for you to win or be right about.

          • daniel rotter

            "if you don't understand that Sha'ria is a complete philosophy and governing structure for society."

            How does that differ from Santorum wanting "civil law" to comport with "God's law?" Why should Americans fear THAT any less than Sha'ria?

  • Glennd1

    Shut up you pathetic Moron. SPLC is a highly politicized, radical organization that takes up the cause of every radical idea our society produces so it's really not a stretch to assume Spencer is correct. However, if you have evidence that he's incorrect, you can email him or comment to him and I'm sure he will respond either via email directly on or a comment on his site. You present no counter-factual, btw, something that you might want to try to do when countering someone's assertion. Man, you really are a pseudo-intellectual child aren't you? Don't come to a gunfight with a knife.

    • daniel rotter

      Hey, jerk, if you make a claim, it's YOUR obligation to prove the claim true.

      • daniel rotter

        "You present no counter-factual"

        Logical fallacy, in which inability to prove a negative is seen as automatic proof of a positive.

  • LindaRivera

    To Daniel Rotter,

    It's well known that interfaith groups support CAIR and similar Muslim organizations.

    Islamic terrorists have carried out more than 18,221 deadly terror attacks since 9/11. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

    Why are there no Muslims protesting in the streets against all of these horrifying acts of terror and mass murder?

    On 9/11 some Muslims in New York and New Jersey celebrated 9/11, as well as Muslims around the world.

    THOUSANDS of Palestinian Authority Muslims CELEBRATED in the streets with great joy over the cruel murders of our cherished 3,000. They danced in the streets, passed out candy and fired into the air. American are forced to finance these haters with their taxes.

    • daniel rotter

      "Why are there no Muslims protesting in the streets against all of these horrifying acts of terror and mass murder."

      Probably because they are wary of being verbally or maybe even physically attacked by idiots looking to lump them in with the same terrorist Muslims they would be protesting against.

      • LindaRivera

        What an unbelievable comment. Americans would be delighted if Muslims protested against all of the horror, violence and mass murders. Americans would deeply respect such Muslims and THANK them.

        • daniel rotter

          You're really naive if you think all Americans (yes, I know you didn't literally use the word "all" but the generalized word "Americans" implies that) would react that way.

          • daniel rotter

            "Americans would deeply respect such Muslims…"

            Not all of them. Some of them would see the protesting Muslims as engaging in taqiyya (sp?).

        • randy

          Americans are no strangers too terror and mass murder with the abuse they did to the native people

          • Ghostwriter

            Wonderful. Both daniel rotter and randy have proven themselves to be moral idiots. Mr. rotter,by carrying water for Islamists and randy for his constant Christian bashing. LIndaRivera is absolutely correct with her post. I think that the overwhelming majority of Americans would be happy if Muslim American DID condemn the violence but so far,very few have had the courage to do so.
            I've never seen Muslims,both here and aboard,condemn the violence of their co-religionists. In my opinion,Ms. Rivera is right and Mr. rotter and randy are wrong.

          • daniel rotter

            "I've never seen Muslims, both here and abroad, condemn the violence of their co-religionists."

            Yeah, because if YOU haven't personally seen something, that automatically means it didn't happen. What a delightfully egocentric attitude. The world truly revolves around you, Ghostwriter!

          • Ghostwriter

            That's not what I meant Mr. rotter and you know it! There have been no protests both here and abroad by Muslims against those who slaughter innocent Americans before 9/11 or since. If you can show me ONE instance of a Muslim condemning a terrorist attack against Americans,I'll take that under consideration. If you can't,then please be quiet.

  • ARay

    "The Muslims are Coming!" the perfect way to cool out the mark. Using comedy to induce tolerance for the intolerant. The perfect Trojan Horse! Taquiyya (sp?) with a twist of deadly irony, we told you we were" coming" but you didn't protect yourselves from dhimmitude! Stupid infidels! You deserved humiliation and subjugation kafirs! A real laugh riot. Don't see them, don't support the venues they appear at and most of all don't believe they're harmless.

  • Terry

    The fact that all five demands are reasonable and just, together with the fact that no self respecting muslim or leftist would abide by any of them, shows that we will be fighting islam until we win. If they win, life won't be worth living anyway.

  • infidel

    The term Islamophobia is so wrong, noone is scared of Muslims we just hate them

    • daniel rotter

      Silly comment. People often hate the things they fear.

  • Mickey Oberman

    I would like to see Islamophobia increase and spread until the entire non Muslim world is infected with it.
    The rational fear of Islam is the only thing that will stir society to act in its own self defense.
    Anyone who believes in the Koran, which preaches forced conversion, inferior citizenship or death not to mention pedophilia and world conquest, should be feared whether they express those feelings and beliefs outwardly or keep them to themselves.
    They can not be trusted.
    Until a Muslim engages in and acts out Spencer's "five things" openly and boldly and thus ceases being Muslim he/she must be considered objects of Islamophobia and must, therefore not be trusted.

  • Tabris

    @ any moslim reading the above comments.

    Please explain how Islam advances humanity? Give me 10 reasons why Islam is superior. From the bottom of your heart, what in Islam is so attractive to you?

    After reading and studying a lot about your religion I can't find any positive answer to the above questions. For me it is hard to believe that honest Islamic people with a righteous heart and see what this religion does to its own people and non believers ever want to stay part of it. How can that be? Am I missing something?

  • Beth

    They are worse Chezwick. They're not willing to do such dirty deeds and yet are happy in supporting those who do.

    For that fact – they're able to influence "the persuadables" who have not taken the time to read a very short book (no lie) called the Koran to see for themselves what it really does teach.

    Yes, they're worse.

  • daniel rotter

    Hilarious. You broaden the conversation/debate (whatever you want to call it) we're having by making a more generalized point about construction permits and communities. My response to this (with its hypothetical about a proposed synagogue) is based on this broader context. Your response to MY response is predicated on moving the goalpost of your argument by narrowing the conversation/debate BACK to the much more specific "religious terrorism" angle, lol.

  • Glennd1

    If the community opposes it simply out of anti-semitism I would have a problem with it. I'm also talking specifically about NYC which is run like a socialist country when it comes to development. I didn't move a single goalpost, but rather you countered with poor analogy that I expanded on to show again how utterly stupid you are. You're bringing a knife to a gunfight, and it just keeps getting worse.