Kabul Siege Signals Time to Get Out

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Details are still unclear, but it appears that as many as six jihad/martyrdom suicide bombers descended upon the Intercontinental Hotel in Kabul Tuesday night. As many as ten people have been murdered, and the Taliban is thumping its chest in victory. The death toll could end up being much higher: a Taliban spokesman, Zabiullah Mujahid, exulted: “Our muj [mujahedin, warriors of jihad] entered the hotel, and they’ve gone through several stories of the building and they are breaking into each room and they are targeting the 300 Afghans and foreigners who are staying.”

The Taliban would kill Afghans as well as foreigners because they consider them to be complicit with the U.S.-backed government of Hamid Karzai. With Barack Obama’s announcement of a drawdown of U.S. troops in Afghanistan, they see an opportunity to assert their presence and power. The American troops will go, and their murder and mayhem will increase. Many will see in this an argument to keep the troops there, so as to preserve order – but what order prevails in Afghanistan today, after eight years of an American military presence there?

The Taliban’s continued ability to commit this murder and mayhem in Afghanistan is testimony to the failure of the American adventure there, the loss of thousands of lives of noble and courageous American military personnel who deserved better from those in command, and the wanton waste of billions of dollars. It was not a failure of power: we were not outgunned or outfought. It was a failure of will, stemming from a misdiagnosis of the problem. Two American administrations have spoken about bringing democracy and freedom to Afghanistan, and yet have not been able or willing to face the fact that the foremost obstacle to those goals was Islam, which respects neither.

Speaking about the vaunted “Arab Spring” a few weeks ago, Barack Obama declared: “The United States supports a set of universal rights. And these rights include free speech, the freedom of peaceful assembly, the freedom of religion, equality for men and women under the rule of law, and the right to choose your own leaders -– whether you live in Baghdad or Damascus, Sanaa or Tehran.”

But not Kabul, apparently. The Bush Administration sponsored the implementation in Afghanistan of a Constitution that enshrined Islamic law as the highest law of the land, such that no law could be made that contradicted it. The bitter fruit of that disastrously short-sighted decision began to appear early on: in 2006 the Karzai government put a convert from Islam to Christianity on trial for apostasy, a capital offense under Islamic law. When an aghast State Department protested, pointing out that Afghanistan’s shiny new Constitution guaranteed freedom of religion, Afghan officials patiently explained to them that it guaranteed freedom of religion within the bounds of Sharia.

Within the bounds of Sharia. That meant the institutionalized oppression of women and non-Muslims, the extinguishing of the freedom of speech, and – as was clear from the Abdul Rahman case and other apostasy cases that followed it — the denial of the freedom of conscience. Sanctioned by the Karzai government, not just by the Taliban.

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  • BS77

    The Taliban made life awful for women and children in Afghanistan….once any controlling factors are gone (think US military) this scourge will return……with a vengeance….total tragedy for Afghanistan.

  • BobSmith101

    Would you wear a T-shirt with a Mohammad cartoon printed on it?

    You might in Montana. Don’t try it in Mecca.


    Because, Islam trains a small number of its most devout believers it’s OK to kill. And Islamic killers have been trained to kill anyone who insults Allah and/or Mohammad.

    In Montana you’d have a good chance none of these Islamic killers would see you.

    In Mecca you wouldn’t last five minutes. One of Islam’s killers would come from out of nowhere and kill you. It is that simple.

    You don’t believe me? Ask any Muslim!

    Read Islam is Fear at: http://islamsfatalflaw.blogspot.com/

  • Terry

    The only thing the islamofascist movement respects is strength.

    It's time to get tough. Never mind all that hearts and minds stuff. Kill anyone in the name of islam and we close down 100 mosques in the west and expel their entire membership.

    Kill again and it becomes 200.

    Again and it becomes 500.

    Every time the islamofascists kill someone to make their point.

    If the islamic world won't take back those expelled, too bad. Withdraw all aid and military support from the countries that won't take back their own. If necessary, take their muslims back in ships and forcibly dump them on the beach in some muslim paradise like saudi arabia.

    And terrorists that are caught – immediate execution, unless they spill the beans to our security people, in which case life with hard labour (and I mean life!)

    It's islam's war against us, not hte other way around. Islam started it, let the west and Israel finish it. We are too besotted with human rights for subhuman terrorists who would slit our throats in the blink of an eye. This is war, so let's fight it to win.

    • Boudica

      Music to my ears Terry, however we don't have the leaders with the guts to attempt anything as daring – in the end the ordinary citizens, i.e. you and me, will have to take maters in our own hands.

    • Steve

      9/11 would have been the perfect opportunity to start. While people were dancing in the streets throughout the Arab world, the U.S. should simply have nuked Medina, Saudi Arabia with a promise that the next time a stunt like that was pulled, Mecca, Saudi Arabia would be nuked.

    • Steve

      And, apart from Israel, India and Russia are frontline states. I will never understand why India tolerates Pakistani sponsored terrorism. That attack on the Indian parliament in 2001 would have been the perfect opportunity for India to repudiate the Indus Waters Treaty, dam all the rivers flowing into Pakistan, and turn the country into a desert.

    • alan

      100 mosques? That seems rather extreme. Why that would be like closing down all the mosques in Houston! LOL

  • Ivor Longdong

    Several J-Dams on the ISI headquarters, and on the home of Benazir Bhutto's murderer, Hamid Gul, would go a long way towards a favorable resolution of the conflict in Afghanistan.

  • kblink45

    Opportunity or eternity? True believers will never sacrifice or risk an incalculable benefit for a temporal gain. The deadly calculus is that every convert to Islam virtually guarantees two more. One needn't be Fibonacci to read the writing on the wall.

  • Chezwick_mac

    I agree with Robert….we should leave. Let's make no mistake, doing so will be detrimental to our national security; the Taliban/Al Qaeda will no longer be preoccupied with fighting the Coalition in Afghanistan and will resume their world-wide terror-facilitation regimen.

    But the sad reality is, we're broke. Open-ended commitments to try and civilize Islamic hell-holes is simply beyond our means. The entitlement state at home and interventionism abroad are luxuries we can no longer afford.

  • LindaRivera

    America is broke. In deep financial distress. There is no money to fight ANY wars.

    Let the Muslims fight THEIR wars with THEIR money, THEIR military and THEIR weapons.

    Waging war after war after war is insane. Our brave military have actually died so that Islamic sharia law could be implemented both in Afghanistan and Iraq. Died so that non-Muslim minorities would lose ALL their human rights. Violence and terror attacks have increased greatly in these countries. And globally, Muslim HATE for America and Americans has increased to extremely dangerous levels.

  • Ron Livaudais

    the Muslim countries should know that any provocation on their part, America will swiftly come in no uncertain terms with overwhelming force and destroy their infrastructure…
    we won't stay as an occupying force…they will have to clean up their own mess, but as they
    Only respect strength, they will learn quickly that we mean business and won't put up with
    Any foolishness or political correctness.

    • palidin48

      What's the population of Iran? Reduce it by 100% and, the rest will STFU for while.

      How do you stop Muslim thuggery? Shoot every Muslim whom you make eye contact with.

      How do ID someone who is a Muslim? Make them wear that stupid looking Hadji gear In blaze orange.

  • Amused

    Spencer gets it right everytime . Lets get the hell out ASAP .Any future threats can be detected ,and dealt with with aerial bombardment . These people are not interested in democracy , nor will they EVER . We can always and eventually will locate Al Queda's # 2,3,4 whomever and take them out at will . We dont need 100,000 troops there , to be sitting ducks for these barbarians . We dont need ANY troops there period .

  • ObamaYoMoma

    The nation-building missions in Afghanistan and Iraq were about as fantasy based as it gets. Indeed, not only were they both very tragic mistakes, but they are also the two biggest strategic blunders in American history, and now anytime the question of leaving Afghanistan comes up, the canned response is we should let the military commanders on the ground make the determination. In years past that may have been the right thing to do, but what if our military commanders on the ground today are incompetent? What then?

    Indeed, what is very disturbing to me is that almost 10 years after the 9/11 terrorist attacks our military establishment still doesn’t have the first clue about the real nature of the enemy we are fighting, and never mind the fact that the first rule of war is to know your enemy as well as we know ourselves. They obviously miserably failed in that regard.

    Apparently, anyone in our military who isn’t blinded by political correctness is run out of the military and thus only unhinged leftwing loons get promoted to the highest ranks. Indeed, like the rest of our federal government, our military establishment has also been hijacked and co-opted by the delusional left and that does not bid well for the future of the US.

    Hell, as for as I can tell even the Republican candidates for president are still totally oblivious of Islam, as I have not seen any indication that anyone of them has a clue.

    • WildJew

      Romney is apparently an apologist for Islam. During the last debate CNN's John King asked Herman Cain about his statement regarding Muslims serving in his administration, Cain concluded by saying he rejects the furthering of Sharia in the US. Romney then opined there is no Sharia problem and will be no sharia problem in our courts because we have a Constitution. What is Bachmann's view on Islam? Do you know?

      • ObamaYoMoma

        Actually Romney like all the rest of them as well doesn’t have a clue with respect to Islam as for as I can tell, but he nonetheless understands the stupidity of pursuing nation-building missions in Muslim countries. With respect to his answer regarding Sharia in the USA, it is the same exact sentiments expressed by all of them, that there would be no Sharia problem in the USA because we have a constitution, which is a classic response by all people that don’t understand the threat of Islam.

        By the way, in my opinion states passing laws to outlaw sharia isn’t enough to stop the stealth jihad, as once the population of Muslims increases to the point it becomes an important voting block, those laws will be repealed by leftwing politicians in return for support and votes.

        The reality is thus for none of the candidates have indicated that they understand Islam and the grave threat it means to the unbeliever world as for as I can tell. With respect to Bachman, we will just have to wait and see, as she hasn’t had an opportunity to answer a question regarding that particular issue yet that I have seen. However, I don’t expect any of the candidates to indicate that they understand the true nature of Islam and even if they do, in any event they would probably pretend to be stupid in order not to open themselves up to the relentless attacks that would inevitably follow by the lamestream media that would no doubt try to smear them as being bigoted Islamophobes.

        Indeed, as for as I can tell, when it comes to pulling out of Afghanistan and Iraq, with the exception of that anarcho-kook Ron Paul, all of them say we should let the commanders on the ground make the decisions, even though the commanders on the ground, when it comes to Islam, don’t have the first fricking clue. In any event, I hate to rain on their unhinged parades, but if they believe that those two Sharia states will become loyal friends and reliable allies of the USA when we finally pull out of those two Islamic hellholes, then I have a bridge I need to sell them.

  • chhelo

    Not only are Iraq and Afghanistan mistakes but Korea and Vietnam were as well. Whether it was to stop the spread of communism or terrorism (Islam) the decision to do it by wasting the lives of 10's of thousands of American citizens has been a monumental mistake. If we had let China and Russia conquer SE Asia then it would have been their treasure left on the battlefield as peoples for those countries rose up to throw them out. We should accomplish our goals through assassination and special forces operations and cut off the head of the snake that id foolish enough to attack us. Using these methods would have saved 99% of the soldiers that we left their blood on the stink holes we have tried to help.
    Get out as fast as we can, upgrade the CIA and Special Forces and do the rest form the air where we have 100% superiority.

  • ObamaYoMoma

    Uhm…if not for the presence of millions of Muslim immigrants with their thousands of mosques and madrassas already in the USA, the 9/11 terrorist attacks would have been completely impossible. Hence, the solution is not to chase hydra-headed jihadists in Afghanistan or try to win their hearts and minds or to lift them up out of poverty, despair, and hopelessness. The solution instead is to ban and reverse Muslim immigration ASAP, as zero Muslims equals zero terrorist attacks.

    Moreover, the Taliban is by far not the only Muslims that oppress women, as the Sharia compliant Northern Alliance did so too, but they weren’t vilified like the Taliban because we stupidly allied with the Northern Alliance to stupidly jump into the middle of a jihad we had no business jumping into. However, the Northern Alliance, just like all Muslims around the world, is also our enemy too, and the mission we pursued to attempt to win the hearts and minds of Muslims who are obligated to hate our unbeliever guts no matter what, couldn’t have been any more fantasy based. In any event, I’m not worried about Afghanistan or Iraq becoming terrorist havens, as the entire freaking Islamic world is a terrorist haven.

    • WildJew

      "The solution instead is to ban and reverse Muslim immigration ASAP, as zero Muslims equals zero terrorist attacks…."

      What do we do about the one ensconced in the White House? Let's not forget, our fellow Americans elected this dangerous man. Many more continue to admire and support him. How do we begin to reverse that problem?

  • Len Powder

    Our inability to comprehend the true nature of Islam results from our inability to perceive the true nature of Evil. This shortcoming is particularily common among the leftist intelligentsia and politicians (GW Bush among them in spirit at least). Political correctness denies its adherents even the possibility of speculating about the evil in someone different from us. In fact, according to the Left there is nothing and no one more evil than Americans and America and so we need to keep our mouths shut, and certainly not call anyone but ourselves 'Evil'. If enough of us don't eventually wake up to the evil of Islam and its Leftist allies we will find out what is means to be either a 'dhimmi' or 'an enemy of the people'.

    • WildJew

      George W. Bush was an apologist for Islam plain and simple. Bush left Americans wholly ignorant of the dangers inherent in Islam, as well as the dangers inherent in a Muslim-born politician with deep sympathies for Islam, seeking the presidency. Bush not only lied about Islam (whether by intent or ignorance), he repeatedly lied about Israel. I have come expect these lies and falsehoods from radical leftist ideologues like Obama. I did not expect it from (self-professed Christian) George W. Bush for whom I voted in 2000.

    • alan

      True enough concerning the left, but another big problem is that many pious Christians in America have a hard time rapping their minds around the idea that one of the "Three Great Abrahamic Religions" could be wholly evil at its core.

  • WildJew

    I don't think Spencer says we are at war with "radical Islamists." How do you convince your fellow Americans (who drank/drink the Bush and the Obama Kool Aid) we are at war with Islam because Islam is at war with the West?

  • Amused

    Oh gimme a break , it's not only leftists , it's any bloody politician , the RIGHT included, who for the sake of their own political careers wont call out Islam for what it is . Even King , in his hearings , is walking on eggshells and is carefull not to speak the real truth . And you say GWBush in spirit ? Bunk ! Bush also in actions . Why in the hell is Baker a registered foreign agent for thge Saudis . How did we even consider let alone attempt to sell a US port Facility to the Saudis ? Why do we sell them jet fighters ? Military hardware ? Riot control equiptment ? Why do we allow Wall Street Traders to dictate through greed , oil futures ? How many Americans get rich by their portfolios on the same , with no regard whatsoever about what it does to our economy ? Why do we give aid or ANY assistance to OPEC countries ,only to be gouged by oil prices which they control by production cuts ? Yea, you keep believing it's only the left …..and you'll never recognize the problem . If islam seeks the demise of the West ,AND IT DOES , why in the world should we think they wouldn't [or already have ] attempted to achieve this through the economic treachery of oil ?

  • LindaRivera

    To Wild Jew:

    It's important to understand that a number of politicians, including some presidential candidates will claim to be Christians. It is ALL a phony front.

    G-D hater communist Fidel Castro wore a crucifix pretending to be a Christian in order to STEAL the free and prosperous country of Cuba. In order to take over a country, it is necessary to deceive the people.

    Besides politicians, there are people who also pretend to be Christians, including some Christian pastors and Christian leaders and some Christian organizations.

    We must be on our guard.

  • LindaRivera

    To Amused:

    We are definitely betrayed by both the Left and the Right. In fact, they clearly, both work together. We have never been in such great danger as a nation as we are now. Enemies within and enemies without.

    • Frank

      Your right, I can 't belive people haven'tfigured out we went into Iraq to shut off the $17.00 a barrel oil.

  • logdon

    For an insight of what it's like on the Helmand front line try these three.

    Shamefully the BBC has put them out, not on the main BBC1 but on BBC3, basically a comedy channel.

    Filmed on officer head cameras, the immediacy is palpable, as is the unswerving devotion and gallantry.

    The final one is interesting as troops attempt to train ANA recruits with predictable results.

  • Amused

    You are correct Linda , the phony ideological "public battles " all fade away behind closed doors where it's buisiness as usual .Not the buisiness and interests of the country and the people , but their own never ending efforts , to achieve their self-perpetuating agendas .

  • alan

    Nukes in Pakistan maybe?