Pressure on Perry

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The sparks flew during last night’s Republican presidential debate, with Texas Governor Rick Perry taking the lion’s share of the blows. He handled himself well, with applause-generating punch lines and counter-attacks, but criticism of his record as a conservative will make the race more competitive in the weeks ahead.

Governor Perry was under fire from almost every other candidate, as Mitt Romney went after his record on the economy and Social Security, and the others targeted him on immigration and his ordering that schoolgirls get an HPV vaccination. His biggest applause line came in his opening, when he pledged to “make Washington D.C. as inconsequential in your life as possible.” His statement that “People are tired of spending money we don’t have on programs we don’t want” was also well received.

Perry was loudly booed when he defended his decision to grant in-state tuition to illegal immigrants. He was also left nearly speechless after a series of blistering attacks by Michele Bachmann and Rick Santorum on the vaccination issue. Perry tried to preempt the forthcoming criticisms by praising parental rights and noting that he allowed parents to opt their children out of the vaccinations, but it failed to stop the barrage of punches thrown his way.

Mitt Romney had an excellent night as Perry received almost all of the negative attention. He had numerous applauses, such as when he suggested that President Obama was failing to modernize the economy. He struck Perry for calling social security a “Ponzi scheme,” using it to highlight questions about his electability. He also contrasted their records on job growth by pointing out how Perry’s two predecessors had higher rates. Compared to previous debates, criticism of Romney’s health care plan was gentle this time. His only mistake was rudely interrupting Perry during their exchange on social security, a tactical error that will be forgotten.

Right out of the gate, Michele Bachmann showed the fire that she lost during the last debate. She received huge applause in her opening when she described how she fought on behalf of the Tea Party, and won a bigger applause when she said it was a mistake for the House Republicans to agree to raise the debt ceiling. Claps were heard when she clashed with Perry, but her questioning of his integrity may backfire. She pointed out that his chief of staff was tied to the drug company that profited from the HPV vaccinations he ordered in public schools, and that the company donated to his campaign. “If you say I can be bought for $5,000, I am offended,” Perry replied. She responded that she was offended by his vaccine mandate.

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  • Chezwick_mac

    Perry was a punching bag…no doubt about it. There were a couple of deer-in-headlights moments.

    Romney seemed stiff and unimaginative. He was obviously relishing Bachman's assault on Perry. Ole Mitch appears to have developed a stutter almost every time he's finishing an extemporaneous sentence. I don't know what it says about his psychology, but it does make me wonder. Perhaps the pressure of the campaign is getting to him. Makes me wonder how he's hold up with the pressures of the office.

    Bachman did better this time out than last. She was on the attack, saying all the right things.

    Cain was consistently good, although about 60% of what he says comes across like talking-points rote. He gets kudos for broaching tort reform as part of overall Health care reform….(where the F were the others on that issue?)

    Santorum actually gave a good account of himself for a change. He was the only one to utter the words "radical Islam"…(yes, a redundancy to be sure, but certainly preferable to nothing at all). He also advocated eliminating the corporate tax rate in order to facilitate manufacturing here at home. God knows, throughout history, producer societies consistently dominate consumer societies. We better frigg'n get with the program.

    Gingrich was once again original, articulate and spot-on (but what's with his new-found love affair with Santorum? Those guys were validating each other all night!).

    Ron Paul was….Ron Paul. On occasion, devastatingly poignant. On others, absurd in the extreme. Like the Left, he blames us for the enmity of the Muslims. Maybe he should pick up a Quran (or a pre-1980s history book, for that matter).

    Bachman came out considerably stronger. Romney's fortunes improved, but only because Perry was weakened. Let's see if this is born-out in post-debate polls.

    I reiterate my plea: Whoever wins, pick Marco Rubio as your VP…doing so will bring in Florida and at least a greater portion of the Hispanic vote.

    • prsmith

      "Whoever wins, pick Marco Rubio as your VP…doing so will bring in Florida and at least a greater portion of the Hispanic vote."

      I pray that no Republican candidate for POTUS picks either Jindal or Rubio to be their running mate. Neither Rubio or Jindal is eligible to be our POTUS.

      Neither man's parents were U.S. citizens therefore they are NOT eligible to be POTUS or VEEP ; the exact same problem Obama has. If Rubio and Jindal are true patriots and supporters of the Constitution, one or both of them will immediately call a press conference and announce that he is not a ‘natural born citizen’ because his parents were not U.S. citizens and that he cannot accept any invitation to join a presidential ticket. For more eligibility info, see:….

      Help me make that happen. Go to or…. Tell Rubio and Jindal that you expect them to do the right thing so that we can both fix the constitutional crisis we currently face and forever prevent another from occurring. This problem should have been resolved following Chester A. Arthur’s administration when it was discovered that his father was not a U.S. citizen when Chester was born – but it wasn’t. Let's finally put this question to rest.

      If Rubio or Jindal will stand tall and make that announcement, it would immediately shine a spotlight on Barry's ineligibility and force the SCOTUS/Congress to act. Help me make that happen! It will only take a couple minutes – please do it now!

  • ObamaYoMoma

    Bottom line is if you believe in state tuition discounts and financial aid for illegal immigrants, not sealing off the southern border with a fence, and pathways to amnesty for illegal immigrants, then support Gov. Rick Perry. Also, if you prefer candidates that are Islamopanderers like GWB was and like Obama is too, again support Gov. Rick Perry. Nevertheless, please excuse me if I choose to support someone else. I sincerely hope no one will be insulted.

    • Chezwick_mac

      I tend to agree. Perry's relationships with Grover Norquist and Aga Kahn are very troubling. Other than Ron Paul, he's the most problematic GOP candidate for the anti-Jihad. But should he win the nomination, I'd vote for him in a heartbeat over Barry Obama.

      • ObamaYoMoma

        Not me. That's how we ended up with a leftwing hijacked Republican Party. Indeed, I learned my lesson, I no longer hold my nose and vote for the lesser of two evils, because that is how the left managed to hijack the Republican Party. Indeed, I didn't vote for McCain last time around because he was way too far to the Left, and I will not vote for any candidate period unless that candidate is sufficiently far enough to the right. Nevertheless, you are perfectly free to do as you so please.

        • Chezwick_mac

          Well, to each their own. In my opinion, there IS such a thing as 'lessor of two evils'. For example, it took Bush 8 years to add $5 trillion in debt to the treasury….Barry has done it in 3.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            The difference is I would rather die a fast death, while you would rather die a slow and lingering death.

          • Chezwick_mac

            That's really deep, man. By all means, vote for Obama.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            It doesn't really matter, America is going to die either way, a fast and quick death is more appealing to me than a slow and lingering death. Why prolong the suffering needlessly when you don't have to? To each his own.

            Actually, I'm more appalled at the hijacking of the Republican Party by the left than I am with respect to Obama. Indeed, if the Republican Party continues to put up only leftist nominees then I'm sorry but it doesn't deserve my vote. It may garner your vote, but it won't garner my vote. I don't vote for leftists whether they are Republicans or Dhimmicrats under any circumstances, and judging by the 2008 election, a lot of people also feel the same way.

          • Chezwick_mac

            I choose to go down swinging…and a slow death, if that's our fate, at least gives us more time…with always the outside chance of resuscitating our civilization.

            I know there's not a lot of reasons to be sanguine about the future, but it's better to hope than to pack it in prematurely. Besides, as screwed up as we are with our PC bullsh*t, Islam isn't 10 feet tall. They're burdened with contradictions and fallacies that exceed our own.

            So hang in there, amigo. It ain't over 'till it's over.

  • Amused

    Perry and Bachmann will now "backpeddle " on Social Security , and this , coming from their own party . Wait till either recieves the nomination . The skeletons in the closet will be an avalanche .Both have called SS a "fraud " or a "ponzi scheme ". Both will have to defend against statement ob record [quite recent ] and a book that's already out there in the public domain . Did they forget how many people have PAID for what is arrogantly referred to by teabaggers and neocons , as " entitlements " ? Yea …that'll fly .It's already crashed and burned , and that at a Republican debate ! Boy talk about giving ammunition to the Democrats …..Romney-care or not , Perry and Bachman are non-starters ,and unelectable . Republicans are deluding trhemselves .They themselves have made SS "the issue " .

    • Chezwick_mac

      You still don't get it, do you friend? SS is ABSOLUTELY a ponzi scheme. Those who are not near retirement age but who are paying into the system will NEVER get their money. Whatever surpluses have been accrued over the decades were incorporated into the "general fund" and spent on other programs. Now, the system can no longer produce surpluses….too many retirees drawing from it, not enough workers contributing to it.

      The trajectory towards insolvency is inescapable. This is what we call "unfunded liabilities",…i.e., future obligations for which there is no money to pay. Between SS and Medicare, today's unfunded liabilities total an astronomical amount (over $100 trillion dollars).

      The evidence is at the bottom of this page…

      • Amused

        You make a good parrot Chez_mac , unfortunately a parrot that knows nothing . Eliminate the fraud [like that which the Governor of my state perpetrated ] ,Eliminate the politicians borrowung from it to the tune of ONE TRILLION DOLLARS , and SS /Medicare would have no problems .You read your link , it's the propaganda that suits you , now run along and go be a good little parrot . BTW , watch Perry get shotdown over his threats against it , Bachman too . What most of the ignorant and politically brainwashed dont wanna know or understand , is that SS/Medicare are PAID FOR by it's recipients . It's not a handout , nor anything like it , and in fact FDR himself made future predictions about Republicans [people like you and your ilk } who would attempt it's destruction . It's all about big buisiness and contributions , the welfare of the commomn man , even an insurance policy which they in fact pay into , is the last thing considered by the Republican party who nose is up big buisiness' arse. Anbd please dont make me tell you where you can stick your "evidence " .

  • Amused

    …lol…and what's This ??? Perry for "tuition" for the kids of illegals ! After screaming about border protection ! Bachman jabs Perry about forced vaccinations of Texas children and links contributions to Prry by Merck ….Perry's reply ? 5k ..a mere bag of shells ! It takes a lot more to buy me …lol….and I'm sure THAT will come out too . Amd paul wityh his foot firmly planted in his mouth …what a show !!
    I thin the christian right had better get over their "Mornon Fears " , for Romney is their only chance to get rid of Obama .

  • Asher

    Of course the Other candidates were trying to take down the Top Kid on the Block. Perry showed character in admitting he would re-think the innoculations for Cervical cancer. Cancer is a horrible disease and vaccines should be developed and tested to see what the side effects are. More importantly Perry allowed the public to choose whether to Opt Out. All in All Perry is a Strong Leader with a Good business record, and a job creator. The Republican debate was a Block Buster though, we can see that the Brains and Ideas are on the Right, as well as the Leadership. I think Paul has made 2 major blunders, especially on stopping Iran's nuclear Program….

    • ObamaYoMoma

      Of course the Other candidates were trying to take down the Top Kid on the Block. Perry showed character in admitting he would re-think the innoculations for Cervical cancer. Cancer is a horrible disease and vaccines should be developed and tested to see what the side effects are. More importantly Perry allowed the public to choose whether to Opt Out.

      Actually, mandating 11 year old females be inoculated against the wishes of parents is big government run amuck, and when he did it, he bypassed the state legislature to do it. Of course, his campaign manager who happened to be a lobbyist for Merck received a windfall for influencing Perry to do it and Perry for his efforts received a $5000 donation, i.e,, bribe.

      More importantly Perry allowed the public to choose whether to Opt Out.

      The only problem is no one knew they could opt out though.

      In addition, Perry never admitted he was wrong. He just said he should have gone through the legislature. In other words, Perry still has totalitarian big government tendencies that linger from his days when he was campaigning for Al Gore and his ilk. Indeed, the last time we elected a former Dhimmicrat that converted to being a Republican, GWB, it turned out he didn't have a conservative bone in his incredibly liberal body and he ended up practically destroying the country and the Republican Party.

      All in All Perry is a Strong Leader with a Good business record, and a job creator.

      He is also weak on border security at the same time he gives in state intuition discounts and financial aid to illegal immigrants, while also supporting a pathway to amnesty, which, of course, like McCain and Bush, he doesn't call it amnesty, but it is amnesty nonetheless.

      In addition, just like GWB was and still is and like Obama is too, he is also a gullible useful idiot Islamopanderer, and the last thing the country needs is another President who is clueless with respect to the biggest threat to freedom in the world.

      The Republican debate was a Block Buster though, we can see that the Brains and Ideas are on the Right, as well as the Leadership. I think Paul has made 2 major blunders, especially on stopping Iran's nuclear Program….

      Paul is unhinged. Always was, always will be. He will die believing that 9/11 was America's chickens coming home to roost. By the way, Santorum is wrong too about the reason we were attacked. Indeed, we weren't attacked because of American interventionism like that anarcho-kook Paul claims and we weren't attacked because of our freedoms and way of life, instead we were attacked because we are non-Muslim unbelievers, as ALL Muslims per the sixth and most important pillar of Islam are obligated to fight jihad in the cause of Allah against non-Muslim unbelievers to make Islam supreme. No exceptions.

  • victor.laslow

    Perry is a professional politician and fence sitter with his eyes open to voting blocks not the issues I pray he does not win the nomination but still he is better than Obama.
    That is not what America needs.
    Michele Bachman has by far out debated them all last night, she is the only one who sees the reality of socialized medicine on the horizon, wavers will not do it, they will only post pone the enviable. I read the law and Michele is correct there are so many links in the chain that is Obama Care it will never be dismantled by piece meal tactics. Even if every state has a waver, in the law every insurance company will have to provide the same one size fits all coverage so we all will still suffer the Obama Care solution to eugenics. To be continued

    • Amused

      lol….that's not saying much for those she debated . BTW , Michele's husband saw no problem taking "Obama-Care " money in his "counseling practice " ….lolololol.

  • victor.laslow

    Continued..Here are just a short over view of what is in the law.
    There is so much in the over 2000 pages that Obama will have control of our health for all time if not pulled out by the roots. G/d help us.
    For the most part Michele Bachman is (except for Herman Cain) the outsider that will bring the real change, not to America but to Washington. Victor Laslow

  • upaces88

    Perry is a globalist. He also has ties with Islam.
    Cain? Cain changes his mind when the Political wind blows:
    1) I would have Muslims on my staff (Muslims are allowed to lie to Infidels);
    2) When asked about it? States that he "Misspoke (sp)"; in other words, he didn't know what he was really saying.
    3) Changed it to — they can give me an Oath (same mistake–Muslims allowed to lie to infidels);
    4) I will have homosexuals on my staff;
    5) Hard-line stance on Homosexuality as a sin

    Homosexuality is a sin and a choice

  • LindaRivera

    Anti-freedom Perry, tried to mandate a government injection, HPV vaccine, to young girls. It is extremely dangerous, destroys health, and KILLS. Perry is a very scary person. America is history if he is elected president.

    From truthaboutgardasil website:
    The Truth About Gardasil

    January 11, 2011 Gardasil is the HPV vaccine, touted to fight cervical cancer. What they are not telling you is that thousands of girls are having adverse reactions to the HPV Vaccines, some have even died -at last count, at least 89 lives have been lost. We have got to do something about this. These girls need our help!

    These girls are having reactions such as; seizures, strokes, dizziness, fatigue, weakness, headaches, stomach pains, vomitting, muscle pain and weakness, joint pain, auto-immune problems, chest pains, hair loss, appetite loss, personality changes, insomnia, hand/leg tremors, arm/leg weakness, shortness of breath, heart problems, paralysis, itching, rashes, swelling, aching muscles,pelvic pain, nerve pain, menstrual cycle changes, fainting, swollen lymph nodes, night sweats, nausea, temporary vision/hearing loss just to name some of them!

    There is no known treatment to help these girls…

  • Elaine Seelhorst

    Elaine Seelhorst
    Romney's position on The Federal Reserve is unbelievable. He needs reeducation on n the Fed. Those elected in 2010 must begin to bring down the Fed.
    Read G. Edward Griffin's book [I have] "The Creature from Jekyll Island.
    Quotes "Seven reason to abolish the Fed:
    1. It is incapable of accomplishing its stated objectives.
    2. It is a cartel operating against the public interest.
    3. It is the supreme instrument of usury.
    4. It generates our most unfair tax. [Effie wrote: Inflation — value of dollar diminshed)
    5. It encourages war. [Effie believes it is an instrument of war,]
    6. It destabilizes the economy. [Effie says it it has presided over ever depression.)
    7. It is an instrument of totalitarianism.
    Now you see why Romney's assertion on the Fed greatly distrubes me.

    • ObamaYoMoma

      Romney supports reforming the Fed, exactly like all the other candidates with the exception of that anarcho-kook Ron Paul.

  • Moishe Pupick

    Tu., 09/13/11 common era

    Governor Perry should be carefully questioned about his understanding of John 14:6.
    It's excellent that he is strongly pro-Israel. However, as I understand part of his genre of Protestant theology, in the End of Days, 144,000 Jews will be spared and become evangelists for Jesus. I understand that there are now about 14 million Jews living worldwide. That 144,000 amounts to barely over one percent of Jews who will survive. The selection rate is even lower than for U.S. medical schools. What will happen to the overwhelming majority of worldwide Jewery in Perry's End of Days!?

    • trickyblain

      Just be thankful you're not black.

    • prsmith

      I think you're misreading the Bible. The 12,000 from each of the twelve tribes return to Israel as Christians and begin to proselytize thereby converting millions of Jews.

  • ObamaYoMoma

    Last night one of the questions was, “What will you do to get rid of the illegal immigrants already living here?” The question was passed to Rick Santorum, and instead of answering the question straight forwardly, he went into this stupid BS about how his parents were Italian immigrants and that he supports legal immigration, how he favors assimilation, then he went into the issue of border security and building a border fence, and then concluded his answer by flat out stating that it was premature to answer the question. With all due respect to Mr. Santorum, if he can't answer a straight forward question, then he isn't worthy of my consideration.. What a lame excuse! Sorry, but I don't vote for people I have to guess what their positions are. That's absurd!

    • Amused

      "with all due respect " ? Santorum doesn't deserve even that ! He's talking to his electorate as if they were IDIOTS ! He should have been booed of the stage for that evasive B.S. .

  • Amused

    If anyone but Perry , tried pulling that innoculation crap , all you REPO-CONS would be screaming bloody murder . Only an idiot would even attempt to defend someone like PERRY .If this is going to be the best that Republicans can put against Obama , then man , you had better get used to another FOUR years of him .
    And speaking of " Mr.Anti-abortion under any circumstances Santorum " , he's one big fat hypocrite who apparently feels that's only good for others since his own wife recieved a late term abortion , in order to save her life [which I would agree with ] , but the rest of the mothers should die . I do expect to be highly Amused at the ongoing circus of clowns running for the Republican Nomination . Even Romney 's a double talking liar , but he 's the least of these fools .

  • Amused

    Oh , and the psuedo-eschatology spouted here is enough to make one 's eyes bleed .First off Perry is a "dominionist " [look up the meaning ] , so he therefore misses totally the meaning of what he's spouting about "the end times " . As do the uniformed "christians " who have been to lazy to study in earnest , their own New Testament . And Moishe , if I am to assume you are a jew , then cut out that "common era " stuff , the year is 5771 soon to be 5772 , being a jew you should know better . There are TWO Gospels , 'The everlasing gospel " for all men , jew and non-jew alike , and there is the gospel to the Jews which promises a King . Start from there , and you just may begin to understand the meaning and purpose of the 144,000 , and to whom ,what , and where they will preach . Most christian fundys , including Perry and the likes of Beck et al , are nothing more than circus clowns , blabbering what they don't understand . And the people in their ignorance suck it up . Niether knowing the gravity of accepting error ,and more so the preaching of it .There are more than enough examples of the consequences .

  • Amused

    BTW , has anyone heard what the Republican alternative to fixing our broken health-care system is ? I believe making people pay for health insurance is unconstitutional , and Obama's plan is far from perfect , but I haven't heard a thing from the Republican side , other than their complaining and whining ……..WHAT IS THEIR ALTERNATIVE ? Or do they just want to maintain the status quo – as the Insurance Healthcare moguls and lobbys desire ? Everyones shouting get rid of obama ,scrap Obama-care ! Fine …..but what's their plan ?

  • Amused

    Didn't think so .You aint got one .