British Muslims for Israel

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To Hasan Afzal, the reaction to his new pro-Israel group may demonstrate just why the organization is necessary.

“I’ve been really overwhelmed just by how shocked people have been that there’s been a group called British Muslims for Israel,” Afzal said.

That surprise isn’t surprising. The debate over Israel and the broader Middle East conflict has become so tense and toxic that a group calling itself British Muslims for Israel inspires a mix of suspicion and fascination. But Afzal’s group is real. Formed by young Muslim professionals in Britain in January under the umbrella group Institute for Middle Eastern Democracy, it really took off after Afzal was interviewed by Israel’s Channel 10. Their Web site (BritishMuslimsForIsrael.com) received thousands of hits and the group began receiving letters of all kinds, from “thank you for what you said” to “how can we help?” One writer offered to help jazz up their Web site, and several spoke admiringly of the group’s bravery.

“Although I never for one second thought I was being brave, I just thought I was being obvious in what I was saying,” Afzal told me. “We were worried that the dialogue, when it comes to the Middle East and especially Israel, had in the past five or six years moved from how do Muslims build an independent Palestinian state and coexist with Israel, to nonsense questions like should Israel even exist, or should the Jews even have a homeland,” Afzal said. “And we found that disturbing for two reasons: first is, it’s a completely delusional question to even ask if Israel should even exist.”

Afzal likes to pose the following hypothetical to anyone willing to discuss Israel’s right to exist: Suppose the argument was about India-Pakistan, and Afzal said to his interlocutor, “you know, I really support India’s right to exist”—how silly would he sound? In addition, Afzal knows where such a question, with respect to Israel, would lead. Once you start asking if Israel has a right to exist, Afzal said, “that is almost like a back door Trojan horse entry to some pretty dark aspects of Islamism.”

The media environment in Britain can be downright hostile to the Jewish state. Part of Afzal’s work is countering the misinformation in British media. “I’m sure you know that the UK has an infamous leftwing newspaper which can’t help itself but print editorials or op-eds linked to members of Hamas. And I’m talking about the Guardian here.”

Afzal points to the coverage of the massacre of the Israeli family in Itamar. It was mostly ignored in British media, he said, and when the BBC finally covered it, they did so in a “dehumanizing and insulting way,” insinuating that since the family lived in the West Bank, they got what they deserved.

Jonathan Weckerle knows what Afzal is dealing with. Weckerle is chair of the Mideast Freedom Forum Berlin and spokesman for STOP THE BOMB, two German organizations that advocate for Israel and against the Iranian nuclear program and Germany’s economic, cultural, and political ties to Iran. Weckerle told me that the debate over Israel in the German media and among German intellectuals is mostly one-sided, and his groups seek to correct that.

“We try to get some new ideas into the German discourse on Israel and the conflict and the region,” Weckerle said. “The public and also the think tanks and the press here are partly against Israel, but nearly all of them really lack an understanding of the situation of Israel, for example its strategic threats by radical Islam.”

Weckerle said their work, as expected, is an uphill battle.

“It’s very hard work for us,” he said. “But this is also because what we are doing is really something new.” He said that German Chancellor Angela Merkel travels to Israel and reaffirms the special relationship between Germany and Israel, but “that doesn’t reflect the mood of the country.”

Weckerle’s group, to change this, organizes debates between pro-Israel commentators (largely from abroad) and German intellectuals. From there, pro-Israel groups get a sense of the most effective arguments in Israel’s favor.

“What you learn from the media is that Israel is building the settlements and that this is the main and even the only obstacle to peace,” Weckerle said. “And what Palestinian leaders are doing and saying and what the goals of organizations like Hamas are, what’s happening in Arab and Palestinian media—if you tell people these things a couple of them start to see things another way.”

Weckerle said they educate the public on Germany’s common interests with Israel, and the threats they both face. He said Germany does have a unique obligation to help Israel, especially considering the Nazi-like rhetoric used by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad—but that argument only gets you so far.

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  • bob maram

    i a jew salute the muslims for israeland say to these dear people____ salaam, my new and beautiful friends. bob maram

    • ObamaYoMoma

      The reality is those British Muhammadans aren’t really Muhammadans at all, as in the eyes of all devout Muhammadans they are blasphemers and apostates that should be executed. Don’t get me wrong, I’m very glad they support Israel, but nonetheless don’t fool yourself that those people are real Muhammadans.

      • Gunner57

        ObamaYo moma your are absolutely correct. Shame on that idiot Bob Maram for being taken in so easily by people who are NOT even represenataive of the evils of Islam and its evil prophet Muhammad.

        • bob maram

          dear gunner 57, you may call me an idiot for celebrating the views expressed by the "":british muslims for israel"" but i believe that there has to be within islam an anti radical leadership movement which is rational and accepting of israelas a strongand independent jewish state.i believethat groups such asthe british muslims for israelmay bebeacons of hope,raysof light which can lead to a betterworld. perhaps these beacons will emerge from an islamic ethically enlightenedunderground . i must havehope becausewithouthope i can only seean ugly abyss of chaos and doom. bob maram

      • http://www.instmed.org Sam

        But people like Hasan are the future of any Islamic enlightenment. Educated, freedom-loving Muslims who understand the urgent need for secularlism, and the importance of individualism. They do exist in quite large numbers in the West, but here in the UK they are lost among a community completely hijacked, run and 'represented' by Islamists.

        If there is to be reform in the Islamic World, surely it can only come from the West, and Hasan Afzal will be part of that reformation.

        • ObamaYoMoma

          I’m sorry to have to rain on your wishful thinking parade, but Islam is an ideology that requires total and complete submission to the will of Allah. In fact, the word Islam in Arabic means submission. Hence, per the dictates of Islam, if a Muhammadan so much as questions, let alone challenges the will of Allah, it is a capital offense as all Muhammadans are the slaves of Allah. Dittos when it comes to leaving Islam. Thus, in the eyes of all devout Muhammadans, a Muhammadan is either the devout slave of Allah or otherwise he is a blasphemous apostate that must be executed.

          Of course, some Muhammadan immigrants living in the West can get away with being nominal Muhammadans or even apostates, but in the Islamic world the same behavior would get them killed. Indeed, it may even get them killed while living in the West if they flaunt their apostasy and blasphemy too much.

          Furthermore, Westernized secular Muhammadans or apostates from Islam represent a tiny minority of Muhammadans living in the West, as the vast overwhelming majority of Muhammadan immigrants living in the West flat out refuse to assimilate and integrate and instead form Muhammadan no-go zones ruled by Sharia as parallel societies within a society and in direct contravention to the laws of the states in which they reside. Indeed, Muhammadans don’t migrate to the West to assimilate and integrate, but instead to eventually subjugate and dominate

          With respect to an Islamic enlightenment or reformation similar to what happened with Christianity, good luck with that. Indeed, Islam is not even a religion. Instead, it’s a militant theo-political totalitarian ideology that seeks as its main goal the subjugation of the world into a very draconian form of Islamic totalitarianism via the imposition of Sharia, as Islam only poses as being a religion to dupe the societies it intends to subjugate. As a matter of fact, Islam is far closer to an ideology like Communism than it is to being a religion, as exactly like Communism, Islam seeks world domination and the end result of Islam, exactly like Communism, is totalitarianism. Thus, Islam can’t be reformed anymore than Communism can be reformed.

          Indeed, study the evolution of Islam and you will learn that Islam was a complete and utter failure when it was a religion, but as soon as Muhammad abandoned religion shortly after the Hijra and turned to jihad, politics, and conquest and in the process morphed Islam into something completely different from religion altogether and into what it is today, all of a sudden Islam took off and became very successful, and it was this transition of Islam from the realm of religion to the realms of jihad, politics, and conquest that set the stage for Islam to eventually become a major force in the world.

    • Gunner57

      You say this while American Jews conspire to attack and persecute white Christians in the United States. These people have no foundation or basis for anything for any tolerance for Jews in their wicked ideology. Go crawl back into your ADL hole and attack white Christians with Abe Foxman and the boxcar gang.

      • aspacia

        What? How many American Jews have attacked U.S. Christians. You belong under a rock and not on this site.

        • person of the book

          @Gunner57
          Yeah sure and my name is Santa Clause

          • aspacia

            A fact or two will help you gain credibility. At the moment, you have none.

  • Carolyn

    I am quite taken aback, and I want to trust this report, because I have known some very fine individuals who were born Muslim. I mean it. If this is the case, then, these groups might like to check into Honestreporting.com, CAMERA.org, and AccuracyInMedia.com. and others that have the same goal to expose the lies of the press and media.
    All the very best to both groups. it can only help their people in the long run.

    • aspacia

      Yes, I follow these sites.

  • IamJoseph

    How to test muslims: RESTORE THE BALFOUR. Nothing else will suffice, even when Israel does not ask this.

    This was a genocidal aspiration conducted by Europe, and it remains the worst post-W.W.II crime of all. It was never required [about 12 Arab Muslims lived in this land - fact!], and it remains illegal, perpetrated under extreme duress when the Jews were totally helpless following W.W.II.

    The proof of its genocidal factor comes from Europe calling a 3-state as a 2-state today, then re-transfering the name Palestinean on to those hleebent of another holocaust. Rocket science what it all means. Europe used the grotesque term 2-STATE COMPROMISE when 80% of a tiny land was carved off:

    "IT WILL BE A HISTORIC COMPROMISE TO GRANT TWO STATES IN EUROPE – ONE FOR THE JEWS AND ONE FOR THE ARABS" – A cigar chomping Churchill.

    Q: What oercentage is NOT a compromise!?

  • talia

    this is wonderful ! THANK YOU to everyone involved! an Israeli

    • bob maram

      amen, talia. bob maram

  • EVAbeliever

    Kol Hakavod to Aznar for his brave stance. Isn't it a shame that it is considered an act of bravery for a Muslim to stand up for the truth? I saw something on the news this morning that gives a clear picture to what is wrong vis-a-vis the media and the Middle East. The reporter was detailing the murder of a journalist by Hamas in Gaza. The reporter said "the problem is that Hamas can't control the militants". The media refuses to concede the FACT that Hamas ITSELF is a terrorist organization and they don't have "militant elements"; they are the element . The media's left wing hallucinations lead them to see Hamas as the victim and Israel as the big bully. They refuse to report on anything that produces a different result.

  • ze-ev ben jehudah

    Sometimes miracles will happen and reading this,this is a miracle come thru.
    Breaking the cicles of hatred trading them for peace!!Muslims and Jews can
    be brothers and sisters?? Will I be a witness of a great reversal on my old days!
    Miracles never cease to exist.

    • Gunner57

      You would have been the first one to get into the boxcar. Please spare you're "never again" BS.

    • aspacia

      Won't happen. Read the Qu'ran and what retribution Mad Mo demanded against Jews, and law breakers, especially women.

    • http://loganswarning.com/ ChristopherL

      If you knew anything at all about Islam you would know these people are not Muslims. Because to deny even one verse in the Koran is to apostate from Islam. It is amazing how many times non-Muslim falls into the "moderate" Muslims are coming to the rescue trap. It is not happening. It will be our way of life or Islam.

  • wileycayote

    I am wondering what the reaction from British and German Muslims has been to these two groups. I understand that this behavior is not tolerated by Muslim belief as written in the Koran. How long have these groups been 'public', and again, what has the Muslim reaction been?

  • Rochelle Owens

    Would that the swarms of Jewish anti-Israel propagandists learn from these righteous
    people. Rochelle Owens, Poet-Playwright, author of "Chomsky Grilling Linguica"

  • Stuart Parsons

    It is most refreshing to learn that their are reasonable Muslims prepared to speak up for Israel. Might I enquire if they are also against the ever ongoing oppression (killing, raping, forced conversion an marriages and destruction of homes, property and places of worship etc) on non-muslims in countries where Islam dominates ?

  • PAthena

    Congratulations to Hasan Afzal, and his group, British Muslims for Israel. Where else in the Mideast do Arabs (Muslims) have full rights of citizenship, including the right to vote and freedom of speech, than those in Israel? All the war and turmoil in the Mideast – Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Syria – but not in Israel.

    • http://loganswarning.com/ ChristopherL

      Really, what to do you call all the rockets flying into Israel? What do you call Muslims running Temple Mount?

  • http://www.chick.com Raymond

    The Home Depot doubles funds to gay activist group

    January 31, 2011

    The Home Depot, through its Foundation, is now matching donations by its employees to further homosexual activism.

    GLAAD (a politically active gay group) announced on its website that The Home Depot has agreed to match all contributions made by company employees, despite a company policy to the contrary.

  • steven l

    The EU leaders and mass media not even supporting their own values!
    Shame on them. They are for self interest and self destruction.
    It clearly indicates a visceral and primal hate of the Jews.
    They are so narrow minded that they may not see the light shown by a Muslim!
    Amazingly disturbing and sad

  • ObamaYoMoma

    There may be a group of British Muhammadans for Israel in the UK, but one thing is clear, in the eyes of all devout Muhammadans those British Muhammadans are blasphemers and apostates that should be executed, and if they lived in the Islamic world as opposed to the UK, they would certainly have already been executed.

    This reminds me of Dr. Zudhi Jasser who goes around insisting that he is a devout Muhammadan reformer and lobbying for the USA to fight an eternal war with so-called radical Islam to democratize the Islamic world. In reality Jasser is really secular and a neo-con on steroids. In fact, he was tossed out of his mosque exactly because of his un-Islamic views.

    The reality is in the eyes of all devout Muhammadans, Jasser is also a blasphemer and apostate that should be executed, and his so-called claim to be a reformer is a joke because he has exactly zero following in the Islamic world. That never stops every show he appears on or every Congressional hearing he testifies at to mention that he is the president of American Islamic Forum for Democracy, which consists of maybe a handful of secular ex-Muhammadans at most and has exactly zero influence in the Islamic world.

    Not only that, but it is impossible for Islam to ever be reformed the same way Christianity was reformed since it isn’t a religion but instead a militant theo-political totalitarian ideology that is far closer to Communism than it is to religion, as like Communism, Islam seeks world domination, and the end result of Islam, exactly like Communism, is totalitarianism.

    Hence, what is so disappointing is the media spends all of its time touting so-called moderate Muhammadans like Jasser and the so-called British Muhammadans for Israel to reinforce its narrative that the vast majority of the world’s Muhammadans are moderates, when the exact opposite is the reality.

    Now don’t get me wrong, I’m very glad that a group of ex-Muhammadans are supporters of Israel in the UK, but the reality is in the eyes of all devout Muhammadans, those so-called British Muhammadans aren’t moderate Muhammadans or even Muhammadans at all, for that matter. Instead they are apostates and blasphemers that should be executed, just like Jasser. Furthermore, their views are also certainly not representative of average Muhammadans, as their views mirror those of average Westerners. Yet, they have become nonetheless media darlings.

    • Gunner57

      American Jews are to busy persecuting white Christians to even care aqbout the truth.

      • ObamaYoMoma

        Like I already said, seek mental help for your severe problems with delusions.

    • ahmadnb

      Shows how narrow and nincomplete your knowledge of Islam is.

      I'm a strong Muslim (not "Muhammadan") and I happen to support Israel. I never supported Israel's destrruction, not even in the years that I supported the right of Palestinians to set up their own "state" in the West Bank and Gaza. That support began to be eroded with the advent of suicide bombings in the 1990s, and then disappeared completely after what the Palestinians did once Ariel Sharon gave back Gaza to them. Since 2006 I have backed Israel in its wars against Hezbollah and Hamas and am itching for a war against Iran.

      I support Israel because that is what my religious principles rooted in the Qur'an teach me to do. Maybe you should pick up a reliable translation and read it for yourself.

      • bob maram

        godbless you from a jewish friend. salaam. bob maram

      • ObamaYoMoma

        Yeah right if you are a strong Muhammadan, I’m Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs combined. With respect to picking up a reliable translation to read, maybe you should practice what you preach and read the Koran and the Sunnah. Here you can start with Sirat Rasoul Allah:
        http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sira/index.h

        Actually, what you are doing besides lying about being a strong Muhammadan exactly like delusional leftists lie all the time about being a strong conservative is attacking the messenger because the message isn’t PC and because the truth hurts. Nevertheless, just because my message offends your naïve political correct sensibilities and sympathies, it is nonetheless true. Hence, why don’t you put your money where your mouth is and instead of attacking me personally, attack my message instead? Indeed, I would love the opportunity to make a fool out of you and to expose your mental incompetence at the same time.

  • Stuart Parsons

    Hasan Afzal and the BMFI are like a breath of clean fresh air. Well done we need more like them. However, I would love to know what their views are concerning the teachings of the Quran, Muhammad's violent proselytizing of his religion and his marriage to Aisha, gender equality, homosexuals, apostasy, Sharia Law and the Organisation of the Islamic Conference, etc, etc, etc

  • art

    Problem is that you can never, NEVER, NEVER believe ANYTHING that any muslim says because trickery and deciet is permissable when it furthers islam …

    • ahmadnb

      Please explain where you got that from…I have read the Qur'an cover to cover multiple times and don't know where you got that from.

      If Islam is truly one big lie as you claim it to be, how is it that it has survived for 1,400 years? The bigger the lie, the shorter is its lifespan. Nazism lasted from 1933 to 1945. Soviet communism died out after 70 years. Islam is 1,400 years old and still as strong as ever, though I will note that it has become weakened due to it's supposed followers' lack of knowledge and faith.

  • bob maram

    i am an american jew living in holland. i applaud the views taken by the british muslims for israel. they are rational and enlightened. i do not believe that islam is inherently evil. i do believe that certain radicalized groups are trying to hijack the religion. franz rosenzweig, an important jewish theologian, in "" star of redemption"" in effect said that the star of david must remain the centerpiece for the jew. and from that star emerged sparks (divine sparks)which produced christianity and that both judaism and christianity contain valid thruths. i believe these divine sparks also produced an islam and that too contains valid truths. we jews should remember that while the "golden age of judaism", during the islamic rule of iberia, was not that golden and was certainly tarnished, it did produce creative geniusses such as maimonides and judah halevi. lastly i am reminded of vladamir nabokov's description of a lady named blanche schwartz, who as her names suggest, saw everything in black and white terms. so therefore let us not my fellow jews as well as you muslims and christians, fall into the pitfall of giving simplistic and crude answers to deep and divine questions. bob maram

    • aspacia

      I am not religious, but fear all extremists, and at the moment most extremists are Muslims who use their Qu'ran to destroy.

    • ObamaYoMoma

      i do believe that certain radicalized groups are trying to hijack the religion

      In other words, you believe the same exact garbage that GWB preached ad nauseum, that Islam is a so-called Religion of Peace™ being hijacked by a tiny minority of extremists, and that fiction you share with GWB indicates that like GWB you couldn’t be more oblivious of Islam. For you that is okay, but for GWB that is inexcusable and totally unforgivable since he was the leader of the free world, yet he was totally incompetent. It also demonstrates how and why he is responsible for the two biggest strategic blunders ever in American history.

      Nevertheless, as a Jew living in Europe, you really can’t afford to remain oblivious of Islam like you are today. Hence, I would suggest that you study in depth the texts and tenets of Islam and how those texts and tenets are interpreted and understood by Muhammadans.

      For instance, did you know that all the earlier peaceful verses of the Koran, the same ones Muhammadans love to cite to fool gullible kafir infidels, have been abrogated by the latter issued verses of the Koran that command all Muhammadans to wage jihad against unbelievers until all religion in the whole world belongs to Allah alone?

      Here’s a couple of existential circumstances for you to ponder: If Islam is a so-called Religion of Peace™ being hijacked by a tiny minority of extremists, as you and GWB naively believe, then why where the vast majority of Muhammadans live are non-Muhammadan unbelievers living in majority Muhammadan countries without exception always systematically persecuted and violently oppressed when not outright slaughtered altogether? Not only that but they are also forbidden from building new houses of worship and from practicing their religions openly, while Muhammadans living in the West, on the other hand, are free to build thousands of mosques and madrassas and to openly practice their religions.

      Hence, if Islam is a so-called Religion of Peace™ being hijacked by a tiny minority of extremists, meaning that the vast overwhelming majority of Muhammadans are peaceful and moderate people, then please explain their savage treatment of non-Muhammadan unbelievers living in all Muhammadan majority countries where the vast overwhelming majority of the world’s Muhammadans live?

      In addition, recently Angela Merkel, David Cameron, and Nicolas Sarkozy all gave speeches pronouncing multiculturalism a complete and utter failure, and what prompted the speeches is that in every Western country in which mass Muhammadan immigration has occurred, the vast overwhelming majority of the Muhammadan immigrants have refused to assimilate and integrate and have formed Muhammadan no-go zones rules by Sharia as parallel societies within societies and in direct contravention to the laws of the states in which they reside.

      Hence, if Islam is a so-called Religion of Peace™ being hijacked by a tiny minority of extremists as you and GWB both claim, then why do the vast overwhelming majority of Muhammadan immigrants migrating to the West flat out refuse to assimilate and integrate? Is this phenomenon according to you somehow by coincidence, or is it by design?

      Anyway, those are a couple of things for you to ponder.

  • person of the book

    I think creative geniuses were produced despite of the Islamic rule, not because of the Islamic rule. I myself do not believe that Islam is hijacked by radical forces. I took the time to read a lot of books about Islam from different perspectives and the Quran and all of that. There a still a lot of Muslims who truly believe that the Quran is the true word of Allah. There is little room for interpretation of the texts if they do that. It’s up to Muslims themselves to change that. If they don’t, I fear we have a dark future ahead of us.

    • http://loganswarning.com/ ChristopherL

      Did Mohammad the terrorist hijack the religion he started? Educate yourself.

      Muslim Hadith Book 019, Number 4366:
      It has been narrated by ‘Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.

    • http://loganswarning.com/ ChristopherL

      If you read the Koran you would know that it states its words cannot be changed.

      • person of the book

        If you read my comment you would know that I'm aware of this

  • http://www.ummat-al-kuffar.com/ Kafir al-Haqq

    Amazing – there is a glimmer of hope after all in a sea of religious retards! Hopefully this group of people won't be murdered by their fellow followers of the 'religion of peace'!

  • moses

    thanks

  • Triyono

    I am a Muslim and living in Indonesia, in my opinion: the main problem is the Israeli occupation of Palestine. If Israel kept border treaty that created the United Nations, then some of these problems resolved. Hopefully no more violence in the Middle East as long as this.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003407108109 Leticia

    I come from a Muslim majority counrty in SE Asia. I believe by reading my post you guys should be able to guess which countries I am from. My counrty is consider one of the moderate Islamic nation but unfortunately it is not so.When their numbers (muslims) was not in the majorities several decades ago, it was all sweet honey word e.g. all races will be encouraged to work together towards nation building, freedom of religion etc. The leaders (muslim incl) at that time were all secular yet conservative in their thinking. But with the trust given to this ppl, they betray it by importing large no. of muslim migrants from neighbouring countries, cavalier attitude towards population control (with no regards towards sustainbility) with each muslim families on the average 5-6 kids added futher by forced & incentive induced conversion of indigeneuous population….their majoritites swell to over-60% now heading to 70%. Even now as we speak some muslims who wants to convert to Christianity or Budhism are being held against their will in some counselling camp or detention camp. They are now allowed to marry their non-muslim spouse, as their religiuos status which were formerly Islam in their indentity cards are not allowed to be changed or reviked. Thus they are indirectly not allowed to be married as mixed marriage between muslim and other is banned by the legislation. Notwistanding, they are also not allowed to have children as their children will not be given a birth certificate (as a result of marriage not recognized by state). Therefore if they ever do have children illegally, their chldren who might be Christian or Buddhist will not be eligible for education or even given identification card and as a result their citizenship will not be recognised. This is but a sample how non-muslim (Christian, Catholics, Hindus & Buddhist)number are kept small against their ever increasing numbers. For now new mosques are being built like crazy while churches & temples (Hindus & Buddhist) are being denied due to legislation & technicalities…and all other sort of reasons. And all the while using our tax moneys as the non-muslim is the most productive compare to the muslims…who keep sending their children to religious school making their no of religious scholars ratio to their population one of the highest as compare to other religious group, being a developing counrty I wonder why do we need so many religious scholars….!!We the kafirs have only ourselves to blame for trusting them, but you in the Western world should take heed of this warning. When their numbers is small, it is all about Peace & tolerance, but such nature won’t be for long.I have fail our Saviour by writing this article in Hatred & Anger. But so many decades of injustice done against the minorities. May Lord Jesus Christ forgive me for my tresspasses !!!”””Blessed are the Peacemakers, for they shall be called Sons (and Daughters) of God.”””