Goodbye Egypt, Hello Iran

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While the elections meant to turn Egypt into a democracy are yet to be held, the Muslim Brotherhood (MB) is already turning the country towards an Iranian-like theocracy. The MB announced recently that it wants government officials to adopt stricter regulations, mainly targeting tourists, regarding bikinis and alcohol consumption in public. In a sharia law-ruled state, which the MB hopes to introduce in Egypt, alcohol and certain women’s clothing deemed too revealing would be banned outright. The MB’s proposed alcohol and bikini restrictions probably represent the first step in making this ban a reality.

“Beach tourism must take the values and norms of our society into account,” Muhammad Saad Al-Katany, secretary-general of the Freedom and Justice Party, told Egyptian tourism officials in late August. “We must place regulations on tourists wishing to visit Egypt, which we will announce in advance.”

The Freedom and Justice Party is the political wing of the MB. It will contest elections, scheduled for this November, against 17 other political parties and stands a good chance of becoming the strongest faction in Egypt’s new parliament. But many Egyptians fear that a triumphant Freedom and Justice Party will radicalise Egyptian society, turning it into a strict, religious theocracy like Iran’s.

“This is how things began in Iran,” said Hani Henry, a psychology professor at Cairo’s American University. “The moderate youth wanted to implement changes, but the mullahs hijacked the revolution. The same thing is happening now here in Egypt with the Muslim Brotherhood. It makes me sick to my stomach.”

Al-Katany says his party will investigate the alcohol and bikini issue and will amend legislation accordingly after the elections. The Freedom and Justice youth director, Ali Khafagy, said the answer to this issue his party finds so offensive may lie in having tourists wear modest swimwear and separate beaches for men and women.

“Bathing suits and mixing on the beaches go against our traditions,” said Khafagy. “It’s not just a matter of religion. When I go to the beach, I don’t want to see nudity.”

But a hardcore Egyptian Salafist group, called Dawa, really stirred fears in Egypt’s tourist industry when one of its representatives, Abd Al-Minim A-Shahhat, told a London-based Arab newspaper that the tourist-attracting treasures of Egyptian antiquity, like the sphinx, pyramids and pharaonic statues should be covered up. Comparing them to idols in Mecca in pre-Islamic times, he called them un-Islamic.

“The pharaonic culture is a rotten culture,” A-Shahhat told the paper, adding the statues’ faces “should be covered with wax, since they are religiously forbidden.”

The idea that Egypt’s world-famous archaeological riches could be in danger is not so far-fetched. In Afghanistan, the sixth-century Bamiyan Buddhas, a United Nations World Heritage site, were victims of similar fanatical Islamist thinking in 2001. The Taliban, declaring the Buddhas also “un-Islamic,” destroyed the centuries-old architectural gems with explosives. Defacing ancient statues of Egypt’s pharaohs with wax is not many steps away from a repetition of the Bamiyan Buddhas’ fate.

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  • Fred Dawes

    I told you so.

    • Jameela

      We are ALL Arabs, Except the Jews

      (“I convey to you the Messages of my Lord and give sincere advice to you. And I know from Allah what you know not.”)

      Allah reveals in the following Verse of the Qur’an the entire earth’s population are descendants of Adam, with the exception of the Jews, as they are the Children of Iblis aka Israel.

      (O mankind! Be dutiful to your Lord, Who created you from a single person (Adam), and from him (Adam) He created his wife [Hawwa] (Eve)], and from them both He created many men and women; and fear Allah through Whom you demand (your mutual rights), and (do not cut the relations of) the wombs (kinship). Surely, Allah is Ever an All-Watcher over you.)

      It is revealed in the following Hadith, that Adam spoke Arabic, which means Adam was an Arab, and ALL the Children of Adam are of Arab descent. And this is the reason Allah sent the Children of Adam an Arab Prophet aka Prophet Muhammad [phuh].

      Narrated Abu Hurairah: The Prophet said, “Allah created Adam in His Image, sixty cubits (about 30 metres) in height. When He created him, He said (to him), “Go and greet that group of angels sitting there, and listen what they will say in reply to you, for that will be your greeting and the greeting of your offspring.” Adam (went and) said, “As-Salamu Alaikum [peace be upon you].” They replied, “As-Salamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullah {Peace and Allah’s mercy be on you).” So they increased Wa Rahmatullah.” The Prophet added, “So, whoever will enter Paradise, will be of the shape and picture of Adam. Since then the creation of Adam’s {offspring} {i.e. stature of human beings} is being diminished up to the present time.

      The dirty-white race is the race furthest removed from the racial purity of our Arab father Adam, and by default, this makes the dirty-white race the morally and melanin depleted garbage race and not the master race, only master fools. Allah will dispose of the dirty-white garbage race in the manner in which Allah Disposes of the garbage that He has created. Allah Will burn the dirty-white garbage race in the bowels of the Hell-fire for worshipping a Jew corpse as god, along with their evil Jew masters. Allah reveals the Jew’s father in the following Verse of the Qur’an:

      (I (Allah) made them (Iblis and his offspring) not to witness (nor took their help in) the creation of the heavens and the earth and not (even) their own creation, nor was I (Allah) to take the misleaders as helpers.)

      ([This is the] Revelation sent down from the Lord of the Alamin [mankind, jinn and all that exists].)

      ([He is Allah] Owner of High Ranks and Degrees, the Owner of the Throne. He sends the revelation by His Command to any of His slaves He wills, that he (the person who receives revelation) may warn (men) of the Day of Mutual Meeting [i.e. the Day of Resurrection].

      (And to warn those [Jews, Christians, and pagans] who say, “Allah has begotten a son [or offspring or children].”)

      (No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. Mighty is the word that comes out of their mouths [i.e. He begot sons and daughters]. They utter nothing but a lie.)

      (Your Ilah [God] is One Ilah [God-Allah, none has the right to be worshipped but He])

      (“And indeed, We created man from dried [sounding] clay of altered mud. And the jinn, We created aforetime from the smokeless flame of fire.”).

      (And I have created the jinn and men only to worship Me).

      (And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.”)

      Messenger of Allah
      & Defender of Islam
      18 April 2011

      • StephenD

        You never answered me before Jammie. If Islam is directly from Allah and is correct in every way, why would Islam need a defender?

        How are you the messenger? Isn't Mo the last one? Aren't you placing yourself above him?

        Bad tidings indeed await you Jammie. If I were you I'd watch out for the Jeannies of the Lanterns, or the flying horses or whatever fairytale characters were invented in the 1400's. This can't go well for you can it?

        Now then, What of the FOGEL FAMILY MASSACRE? Speak to this atrocity or don't waste your breath. You've been asked before.

      • UCSPanther

        The spammer is back….

      • alanmirs

        I can't believe my eyes so much rubbish in one place? And it has chosen a woman's name!

      • alanmirs

        Why don't you teach your men to escalate their moral values become so pure as to look and don't see and make them feel shame of having a wrong thoughts, that is if you believe religion is necessary for escalating humanity
        All those books and people you refer to recognize the freedom and equal rights

      • Robin Shadowes

        That was the worst load of crock I've read in a long time. The oldest civilisation on the planet was the sumerian. The sumerian word for man was adamu. There didn't exist any arabpig language back then 10-12000 years ago. LOL!

      • Silverio Facundo

        This "jameela-messenger of allah" is proof beyond reasonable doubt what islam, allah, mohammed and muslims are: filthy war-mongering hate-filled cavemen and bigots whose only asset nowadays is sitting atop oodles of undeserved oil. The world will have to endure several more decades of this plague which will infect everything within its grasp and will sink human kind into darkness once again. Hopefully though, mankind will get rid of this blister, but not after great pain and suffering.

      • Fred Dawes

        Become a jew or get into christianity but run from islam or go to hell, your lord is of hell my lord is of right and justice, and by the way i do not hate or love jews or do i hate you for one reason you do not know the way to God only the way to hell.

  • sononthe_beach

    "Freedom and Justice Party" of the muslim brothrhood? Isn't that an oxymoron?

    • Fred Dawes

      You can see facts thank you.

  • David

    Welcome to Earth: Egypt is an islamic republic since 1981 and the article inserted in the constitution by Anouar Sadate, establishing Islam as State religion. Clothing for women has always been extremely conservative in Egypt, even more than in Iran.

  • turkp

    i heard that according to jewish sharia only men can divorce. does that mean israel is becoming a islamofascist state?

    • alan g

      That is a cultural thing and you don’t die for not following that tradition. A big difference.

      • Ahmed

        So you're suggesting you can be killed in Egypt if you break a Muslim law? That is such an ignorant and absurd comment. Many women in Egypt don't wear the hijab, many walk around in mini-skirts, many wear bikinis on the beach..etc. and I don't recall any of them being killed…. unless you have actually been to Egypt or actually know enough about it to comment then please just keep your mouth shut because you just made a complete dumbass out of yourself.

        • Eric G

          "Many women in Egypt don't wear the hijab, many walk around in mini-skirts, many wear bikinis on the beach..etc. and I don't recall any of them being killed…"

          At least not *yet*.

        • Chezwick_mac

          On the contrary…bikinis on the beach were common in the 60s and 70s, but not anymore. I challenge you to find a recent photo (last decade) showing Egyptian women (not infidel tourists) wearing bikinis on the beaches of Alexandria or elsewhere.

          As for the hijab…look at these photos of the graduating class of Cairo University. The ones in the 50s and 70s show virtually NO ONE wearing the hijab. The one in the 90s shows about half the graduates wearing hijabs. The last one, in 2004, shows virtually all the women with hijabs.

          So, who are we to believe, Ahmed or our lying eyes?

          • turkp

            Coptic and Jewish women convert to Islam to escape from broken marriages.. this is the only useful piece of information i learned from this otherwise intellectually barren disinformation center.

          • Chezwick_mac

            No friend, your preconceptions preclude you from being enlightened by this beacon of advocacy on behalf of human freedom.

          • Robin Shadowes

            You're a liar. Many arselifters convert to christianity in secret. In secret just to avoid getting killed. So much for freedom of religion in pislam.

          • Fred Dawes

            it maybe in secret now but in 20 years it will not be this makes me happy and i feel good knowing some hope for all people may be at hand

    • jacob

      Turkp :
      What is this crap of Jewish Sharia ??
      Are you comparing the Talmud for instance with Muslim Shaaria ??
      Allow me to tell you that it is true that there Jewish fundamentalists (ie. NATUREI
      KARTA, etc,.) but their difference with Muslim fundamentalism must be measured
      in years-light, as astronomers measure distances in the solar system and though, women can get the RELIGIOUS divorce (watch it, dear scholar) from a rabbinical court, EVEN IF THE HUSBAND DOESN'T AGREE TO IT AS HE MAY LAND IN JAIL UNTIL HE ACCEDS TO GIVE IT.
      However, she can remarry in court and except in Israel, where there is no civil marriage…
      Can you show me the equivalent in ISLAM ???
      LIKE HERE THERE IS…! ! ! !

  • StephenD

    "But this strategy backfired, as it deprived ordinary Egyptians dependent on the tourism trade of their livelihood when the tourists stopped coming. These people then turned against the radical Islamists."Until the MB has the power fully, they are subject, like everyone else, to the power of the money. Until they can secure the wheat, until they can buy the bullets, until the people have no other choice, the money will be the determining factor. Common Egyptians should look at Iran to know their future. Now we will see if the "winds of change go in an ugly direction." Of course, our President told us whose side he’d be on.

  • Questions

    I predicted months ago that the overthrow of Mubarak was not the end of despotism, but merely the first phase of the start of an even worse kind of despotism. I regret to say that I was right. Muslim "freedom-fighters" want the freedom to intimidate others in the name of Allah. Reasoning does not become them.

  • xlent

    Banning alcohol and bikinis, while sanctioning wife beating and stoning of rape victims. Bit of a smoke screen don't you think, all for the "purity" of their male dominated totaliterian religio/government.

    • Nina

      No, it's not a smoke screen. A smoke screen indicates caring for the other's point of view. But the islamists don't care a whit for what you are thinking. They are doing whatever they perceive as their "faith" tells them and others be domned.

  • Lightning Jack

    Egypt is on its way to becoming another Middle Eastern totalitarian proxy state as it regresses socioeconomically back to the 11th century.

    Another strident example that it is the radical jihadists zealots, not the moderates who evangelize, fund and control the global Islamic movement. The moderates are merely passive enablers, they are the good German's and Russians of the 1930s, who, while they may have not approved of Hitler or Stalin's murderous terror regimes, did absolutely nothing to stop them.

    If you wish to see how moderate Muslim's act when they begin to have a scant demographic representation in any Wester nation, observe the social issues occurring in France, Holland, Brittan, Finland, Norway, et al..

    The Archbishop emeritus of Smirne, Giuseppe Germano Bernardini recounts a conversation he had with a Muslim leader, "Thanks to your democratic laws, we will invade you. Thanks to our religious laws, we will dominate you."

    • Fred Dawes


  • liberal5

    American muslims seem to act just fine.

  • Jaime

    At the beggining of the Castro take over tourism was frown upon. It was considered to be demeaning for a cuban to serve a foreigner specially if the foreigner was american. Today they put a lot of effort in bringing the tourist money to the point of not interfering with the sex trade.

  • Asher

    Unfortunately people who vote for the left are voting to get rid of their freedoms. They will ultimately commit insanity by making the same mistake over and over again with the same results, until they have lost their freedom and destroyed prosperity, exactly what has happened in the Islamic dominated countries.

  • voted against carter

    ' TAQIYYA '
    Do your own research about it if you don't know what this means.

    islam IS EVIL. PERIOD.

    islam strives for world domination.

    The quran commands muslims to exercise jihad.

    The quern commands muslims to establish shariah law.

    The quern commands muslims to impose islam on the entire world.

    islam is NOT a religion, it IS a totalitarian ideology.

    islam IS and has remained a death cult from its beginnings.

    islam wants to dominate all aspects of life, from the cradle to the grave.

    shariah law is a law that controls every detail of life in a islamic society.

    From civic- and family law to criminal law.

    It determines how one should eat, dress and even use the toilet.

    Oppression of women is good, drinking alcohol is bad.

    The core of the quran is the call to jihad.

    Jihad means a lot of things and is arabic for battle.

    islam means submission, there cannot be any mistake about its goal.

    islam and freedom, islam and democracy are not compatible.

    They are opposite values.

    mohamed's "wife" was six years old.

    That makes mohamed a PEDOPHILE!!!

    And you want to base a "Religion" on this a z z -holes rantings?

    Are you INSANE?

    I STAND with Israel

  • john Dickens

    islam IS EVIL. PERIOD.

    islam strives for world domination. blah blah.. another vile hatemongiing scu mmy lunatic. Get back under your stone, Geller

  • Irandissident

    Banning Alcohol, Women's hijab and dress codes, mass prayers as a form of protest and all such familiar symptoms, should be reason enough NOT TO support a movement.

    But whatever you do, please don't call it "Hijacking" a revolution. From the very beginning when we saw NO women in Tahreer square ( I counted one in 30 in Egypt and Zero per Hundred in Libya) and from the time American officials said " The Muslim Brotherhood is a reformed entity" the dumbest political observer could have predicted an Islamic domination of this movement and a Western approval for it.

    The Iranian Revolution did not belong to the intellectuals to begin with. We may have willingly deluded ourselves or served it like "useful idiots", but it never BELONGED to us.

    Any movement that lacks secularism in its main demands, should not be supported by those who should know better.

    So why do we still burst in joy like children when some revolution or some person with no clear agenda, appears on TV screens? Because we still haven't learned from history and still don't have a clue.