Is U.S. Set to Invade Pakistan?

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American soldiers have launched a major operation this week that has seen hundreds of US and Afghan troops mass near Afghanistan’s eastern border with Pakistan, raising suspicions over a possible unilateral military strike in North Waziristan. If undertaken, the assault would end years of frustration with Pakistani military inaction concerning Islamic terrorists who take refuge there after staging hit-and-run attacks against American and coalition forces in Afghanistan.

Called “Operation Knife Edge,” the allied forces are deploying right up to the Pakistani border with helicopter gunships and heavy artillery, blocking the main road between the two countries and conducting house-to-house searches. An Afghan Defense Ministry official said the operation was “largely against the Haqqani network,” the North Atlantic Treaty Organization’s (NATO) and the Afghan security forces’ chief threat in eastern Afghanistan. Last month, Haqqani fighters carried out an assault in Kabul itself that saw the US embassy attacked. They also wounded 21 US troops in a bombing in Wardak province.

“These networks are directly responsible for recent attacks against the people of Afghanistan and coalition forces,” said US captain Justin Brockhoff.

After US Navy Seals flew deep into Pakistan to kill Osama bin Laden last May at his luxury compound in Abbottabad where he was living undisturbed, the Pakistani government warned the United States not to violate Pakistani sovereignty again. But Pakistan’s army chief, General Ashfaq Kiyani, admits American forces may cross the border during this current operation, but this time to confront the Haqqani organization.

“They [USA] may do it, but they will have to think ten times because Pakistan is not Iraq or Afghanistan,” General Kiyani told the Pakistani politicians on Tuesday.

A story in the Washington Post last month further indicates Operation Knife Edge may extend into Pakistani territory. It states that American government officials warned their Pakistani counterparts a week after September’s US embassy attack that the United States would take unilateral action against the Haqqani network if they did not do so. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told reporters the United States is going “to take whatever steps are necessary to protect our forces,” which could be interpreted as an ultimatum.

The American government has long been aware of the ties between the Haqqani network and Pakistan’s powerful Inter-Services Intelligence agency (ISI) and wants these bonds cut. In a speech to the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace last month, Admiral Mike Mullen, then chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, even accused the Pakistanis of waging a “proxy war” in Afghanistan through the Haqqani organization. Mullen told his audience he had had a four hour conversation with Pakistan’s army chief that included discussing “the need for the ISI to disconnect from Haqqani.”

Pakistani officials, naturally, deny any such ties exist. Which is not unexpected from a government that says it did not know bin Laden was living comfortably in its midst for so many years.

North Waziristan is a rugged, mountainous tribal area in north-western Pakistan that borders Afghanistan’s Khost province. The Haqqani network, headed by Jalaluddin Haqqani, made its name fighting Soviet forces in Afghanistan in the 1980s, for which he received American and Pakistani help. Pakistan’s tribal territories also served as his base during that conflict.

Haqqani took part in the civil war in Afghanistan after the Soviets were driven out and later sided with the Taliban, becoming a minister in the Taliban government. He fled back to the Pakistani tribal area after the 2001 US-led invasion and resumed guerrilla warfare there, but this time against NATO and Afghan government troops. He also became closely allied with al-Qaeda and may now be sheltering some of its members in North Waziristan.

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  • Fred Dawes

    Maybe? but i think it the government would use someone to do the real invade not US Troopers.

  • WilliamJamesWard

    The Taliban are the problem and we see Hiillary Clinton advocating for their
    inclusion in talks with Iraqi and Afghanistan governments. The Taliban are a
    pure Islamist sharia sect that will never change, not until they are mulch but
    even then only to feed popies for the opium trade………………………William

    • Herman Caintonette

      We LOVE self-rule … until the rulers start acting in their own interest, and not ours. If we hadn't meddled in the M.E. for sixty years, overthrowing the Mossadegh government over oil and installing the Shah, supporting Saddam Hussein (yes, he was one of ours), and facilitating the colossal mistake known as Israel (a Jewish homeland could have been created in a way that would have attracted the support of its neighbors), we wouldn't have such a bad name in the region.

      If the people of Afghanistan want the Taliban, who are we to judge?

      • zsqpwxxeh

        Is that you, Rep. Paul?

      • pagegl

        So, we shouldn't take action against terrorists who are attacking our troops and probably training others to attack USA targets (I hope you don't live anywhere near a future jihadi target).

        BTW, the people of Iran are finding that the Shah wasn't such a bad guy when compared to the ayattolahs.

        The only way a Jewish homeland could have been created that wouldn't have pissed off its current neighbors is if it had been created somewhere else. And even that probably would have rankled the Muslims; check out the relationship of the Grand Mufti and Hitler.

        Lastly, even if we had no involvement in the Middle East we would still be having problems with the radical Muslims because they are trying to conquer the rest of the world for Islam.

      • ObamaYoMoma

        I hate to rain on your unhinged-self-hating-blame America first-suicidal- kook parade, but Mossadegh was secular and had he still been a live in 1979 when thanks to the same stupidity that blinds you today, Jimmy Carter pulled the Persian rug out from under the terminally ill Shah of Iran and like a loon enabled the Ayatollahs to take over, because Mossadegh was a secular kafir infidel, he would have inevitably been one of the first people executed by the new Islamic regime. I know this may seem very startling to you, given how so incredibly stupid you are, but 9/11 wasn't America's chickens coming home to roost like you self-hating loons all stupidly believe. The reality is Muslims have been waging jihad perpetually in the cause of Allah against non-Muslim unbelievers to make Islam supreme for the past almost 1400 years, and if you weren't so ignorant of history and stupid with respect to Islam, your ignorance's wouldn't get exploited to the hilt like they have been.

        • WilliamJamesWard


          • ObamaYoMoma

            Hallelujah brother!

      • Amused

        Herman , you express naivety regarding Israel …..there was and is no way in which Israel was created , where it would have the support of its neighbors -ANY OF THEM .
        It always amazes me how people like you , with rather exceptional intelligence , can be on the ball with some issues yet so utterly ignorany on others .
        You know Herman , in your case, that leads me to no other conclusion than , that your apparent ignorance , is not ignorance at all but purposed bigotry .

  • crackerjack

    Dear Mr Brown. How about getting back into the real world. The USA is currently politically, militarily nor finacially nowhere near the position to start a war anywhere, let alone on the other side of the globe against a nuclear power.

    The US Afghan fiasko has yet not blown up in Washingtons face because Pakistan, Russia, India and all regional powers involved are quite content with the US bogged down in Kabul. Should the US overplay its game, the regional powers will provide the rebells with the arms necessary to get Us troops out of the region like the Soviets before them.

    • alphakilosingh

      If the objective of the war is clear, it can be achieved very quickly. If there are multiple and conflicting objectives, of course USA would better not commit to another war.

  • Rifleman

    It's the wrong time of year for a mass infiltration by taliban/aq, though it's possible. In winter there, we have the advantage.

  • ben

    "A further shaming may see the Pakistani generals knocked off the prominent perch they occupy in Pakistani society and a more cooperative civilian government empowered that would establish peace with its neighbors and ensure the complete safety of those nuclear weapon/"

    If the people of Pakistan were upset that bin Laden was killed…how the hell can you say that a civilian government would establish peace with it's neighbors? It seems like the whole dman coutry is either terrorists or their sympathizers.

  • StephenD

    Since the President (whose grandmother "gave up a dress she wanted so he could have a better life") while on break between colleges was able to travel to and stay (on the no travel list for Americans at the time btw) in PAHK-EEE-STAHN (as he calls it), he seems to have some sort of affinity for the place. I don't expect him to upset them too much. Any incursion he makes over their borders will be well compensated. After all, when you control the purse strings of the American Taxpayers wallet, you can pretty much placate everybody.

    • trickyblain

      PAK was not on the no-travel list at the time.

      • StephenD

        Mia Culpa, Mia Culpa. Still, that must have been one hell of a dress she gave up that afforded him the money to fly to and stay in PAK, Indonesia, and Kenya and then have enough left over to go to Harvard and Columbia! It even afforded him the luxury of taking just a "Community Organizer" job for a mere $12K a year for a salary! Those "Student Loans" must have been minimal at best thanks to that dress Granma gave up!

        • Amused

          Again , that trademark ,juvenile stupidity is displayed …so common around here .Way to go Stephen , you;re keeping up with the crowd , even at the price of your own credibility .

  • sharpsrifle

    An invasion of Pakistan would be ill-informed, stupid and ultimately as unsuccessful as the Afghan Campaign has been.

    Therefore, Hussein will do it.

  • mrbean

    America can’t afford the wars it’s already engaged in – let alone start another one. And even if our country could afford it, this is dangerous doctrine we’re pursuing – particularly when our government has absolutely no idea of what constitutes a “victory” nor is it committed to victory after it sends our troops into harm’s way.

  • BLJ

    This would be an idiotic move that only an incompetent C-in-C would do. Wait, we have one of those.

  • FRA

    More than 35,000 Pakistani civilians have perished since 2001 after the western forces entered Afghanistan. Would any westen country accept such civilian numbers of dead, I think not, so why should Pakistan be expected to take it. The Pakistani rulers have done themselves any favours but as far as I'm concerned they are at the bleeding edge and takign the hit for the world. The only answer is sitting down and negotiating out of this mess. For goodness sake, is the US in ANY position for further conflict – Pakistani's will, like any nation, unite, around the world and we'll have a much bigger problem. Or maybe thats the gameplan! The war-mongering has to stop!

    • mrbean

      Crap – nonsense – what has got to stop is the sacrifice of American wealth and lives for Muslim sand n&gg#ers in the mid east and for primitive n*&gger*r savages in Africa.

      • FRA

        Well done, excellent response, really put some amoeba-type effort in there I see!

        • BLJ

          Would the Pakistani people do anything for us? No. It is funny how the same people who were against the Iraq War are all for intervening in places now.

          • Amused

            You see , it ALL depends on WHO is prosecuting said war [s] . Thats rather transparent at this stage of the game , ain't it ?

          • Amused

            Oh , and my kudos to MrBean , who never lets his audience down .Well done MrBean , welldone !

  • zsqpwxxeh

    All Obama cares about now is getting his sorry ass reelected in 2012. What's the best way to boost poll numbers in a terminally sick economy? That's right: war! Rally round the flag and vote Democrat, forgetting all about that Failed Presidency stuff.

    The use of Pakistan as a jihadist sanctuary and headquarters has been universally known for years. I think the Dear Leader has been holding this one in his back pocket (along with Iran) for just this sort of contingency. 2012 is the Year of the Wagging Dog. How many of us can he fool?

    • WilliamJamesWard

      As long as those fooled by him in 2008 are on the unemployment line
      and economically deprived due to his miserable presidency, we may yet
      survive the election of 2012 and move away from the foolishness of
      socialism. The question in 2012 will be how to return to some sort of
      National Normalcy……………………………………………………..William

  • Wesley69

    "Pakistan also possesses nuclear weapons, which is probably why, when questioned about a possible American incursion, Kiyani answered, “Pakistan is not Iraq or Afghanistan.” They also could be used as a threat, in that they could be “lost” or “sold.”"

    Pakistan is doing little to stop the Taliban/Al Queda incursions into Afghanistan. Afghan troops have the right to hot pursuit into Pakistan. The idea that if there is any invasion of Pakistani territory, their nuclear weapons suddenly become less secure is a threat. It may come down to the US taking out all of the nuclear weapons and realizing that Pakistan is not with us. We need to improve our relations with india. The Pakistanis fear India worse than us.

    • ObamaYoMoma

      The Taliban was created by Pakistan and the truth is Pakistan has been using all the billions of dollars in foreign aid we have been stupidly giving it annually to finance the jihad it is waging against us via its Taliban proxy in Afghanistan, while also at the same time exponentially increasing its nuclear weapons arsenal in anticipation of becoming the nuclear weapons supermarket for the Sunni Islamic world as soon as Iran eventually acquires nukes and renders the NPT not worth the paper it was printed on.

      Indeed, if the US government and both major political parties weren't so blinded by PC multiculturalism today, we would immediately get the hell out of Afghanistan and Iraq ASAP and focus our attention instead on stopping the ruling Mullahs of Iran from getting nukes at all cost and on taking out the nuclear weapons arsenal and nuclear weapons program of Pakistan.

      With respect to protecting the USA and the West from the scourge of Islamic jihad attacks, the solution is easy: outlaw Islam and ban and reverse Muslim immigration ASAP. Common sense dictates that zero Muslims living in the USA and the West, equals zero jihad attacks.

      • Wesley69

        You are right. The central problem is Iran and Pakistan; one wanting to get nuclear weapons, the other possessing them. The danger of neighboring India helps check Pakistan to a degree, but we will only be safe when theire missiles are destroyed. It will not happen under this President. Instead of Libya, he should have taken on Syria and Iran, but he wants an easy foreign policy victory considering that Iraq and Afghanistan are going down the tube.

        As for Muslim immigration, it needs to be limited or cut off as we have done in the past. It is an issue of our national security. Will we see it in this PC age, I doubt it.

        To prevent Sharia from being practiced here, I propose this Amendment to the Constitution.

        "While all citizens enjoy freedom of religious preference, practices that; coerce belief; indoctrinate minors using public funds; that physically, mentally or monetarily harm an individual, which are in conflict with a citizen's rights under the Constitution & its Amendments are forbidden. Nor shall the practices of a religious group seek to overthrow by subversion or insurrection the institutions of government at all levels."

        In this way, there is no question as to the position of Sharia Law in our society. There is none.

        • ObamaYoMoma

          To prevent Sharia from being practiced here, I propose this Amendment to the Constitution.

          There is only one way to prevent Sharia: outlaw Islam and ban and reverse Muslim immigration, as Sharia, like Jihad, is intrinsic to Islam. Indeed, Sharia is the will of Allah and Jihad is the sixth and most important pillar of which Islam stands. Take either away or both and you in effect destroy Islam. In fact, we cannot import Muslims into America without at the same time also importing Sharia and Jihad as well. Hence, the only solution to stop Sharia and Jihad is to outlaw Islam and ban and reverse Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage ASAP. Indeed, zero Muslims equals zero Sharia and zero Jihad.

          The truth is no laws, amendments, or legislation can stop Sharia as Muslims only recognize Sharia. Indeed, they all unconditionally submit to the will of Allah, which in effect is Sharia. Thus, the only way to eliminate Sharia is to eliminate Islam by outlawing it and banning and reversing mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage.

          As a matter of fact, mass Muslim immigration to the West is one of the most prevalent forms of non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad, as Muslims never ever migrate to the West or anywhere else for that matter to assimilate and integrate, but instead to eventually subjugate and dominate in order to make Islam supreme via demographic conquest. Which is why in country after country and anywhere and everywhere mass Muslim immigration is occurring in the West and throughout the world today, the vast overwhelming majority of Muslim immigrants just like clockwork flat out refuse to assimilate and integrate and instead form segregated Muslim enclaves that in the long run morph into Muslim no-go zones ruled by Sharia as fifth columns and in direct contravention to the laws of the states in which they reside.

    • Marcus A.

      I wouldn't say loosing over 4000 soldiers (more than NATO's entire mortality rate in Afghanistan) counts as "doing little".

      I remember an interview the former Afghan NDS chief Amrullah Saleh had on the BBC and he was asked point blank if there was any evidence that any foreign government or military was financing or arming the Taliban and he unequivocally stated that he did not. In fact he admitted that everything they had was circumstantial and really pointed to money possibly coming from the Middle East. However, he did confirm that the evidence actually suggests the funding is coming from within Afghanistan itself (ex. taxes imposed on Afghans). However, that hasn't stopped members of the Afghan government or members of our armed forces and politicians from berating Pakistan to a point that has turned much of the civilian population against us and hampered our ability to succeed in Afghanistan. Unfortunately, policy makers appear to have very short sighted goals and pinning the blame on others is easier than accepting responsibility for poor judgements because otherwise you'd lose elections and those big financial contributions many politicians have come to expect.

      I remember reading a piece where Army Col. Viet Luong stated that sealing the Afghan border is virtually impossible. So expecting Pakistan, a country that has to deal with a massive refugee problem, and an economy 66 times smaller than ours is idiotic. Our government can't even stop the influx of Latin American/Mexican migrants from crossing our much smaller border with all the resources at our disposal so why are we expecting Pakistan, Afghanistan or both with NATO to be able to?

      The US can't take out their nuclear arsenal because no one knows where they are located. Aside from a few key individuals in Pakistan, even their military commander doesn't know all the details like any other individual, no one has any idea how large it is or where they'd be situated it's the same in the US (you think the army would be stupid enough to give that knowledge to any single individual?).

      Pakistan is a key ally and they have done more than their fair share. The reason we saw even a glimmer of success in Iraq was because insurgents were paid off but in this case it's not going to work. Another piece I read a few years back stated that after the siege of Afghanistan Musharraf (former commander of Pakistan's armed forces) pleaded with NATO to negotiate a peace settlement with the Taliban, bring them into the political fold and move on. No one in Washington would even think about such an "audacious" request. Everyone seems to have had this idea we'd be greeted with roses and skittles forgetting what happened in Vietnam. I don't think there is even a single four star General serving in the US that even served in Vietnam and most of those politicians who did (ex. Sec. of Defense Chuck Hagel, John Kerry and Ron Paul) were against the war in the first place or objected to the surges Obama proposed.

  • trickyblain

    LOL – judging from the comments here, all Obama has to do to shut up righties screaming for war against Iran is start supporting the idea.

  • ObamaYoMoma

    The Pakistani government has also constantly stressed that only Pakistan could initiate military action against Islamic extremists on its side of the border.

    The notion that there are Islamic extremists as opposed to Islamic moderates is a PC multicultural fantasy based myth. Indeed, as long as our government adheres to such absurd PC multicultural myths it will continue pissing in the wind and shooting itself in the foot at the same time as it has already been doing for the past 10 years.

    so it is an Islamic extremist organization the ISI can safely support.

    Actually, it is an Islamic jihadist group loyal to the ISI. Indeed, although the various jihadist groups often do fight amongst each other for various reasons, when it comes to waging jihad in the cause of Allah against unbelievers to make Islam supreme, they are all universally united.

    Pakistani leaders most likely believe the United States will not attack because it still needs its help in the War on Terror. NATO supply lines to Afghanistan, for example, run across Pakistani territory.

    Declaring war on terror was about as ludicrous as it gets, as terrorism is a product of Western civilization only, while jihad, on the other hand, which is holy fighting in the cause of Allah against unbelievers to make Islam supreme, is a product of Islamic civilization only.

    In addition, as its name implies terrorism is always violent, while jihad, in stark contrast to terrorism, is both violent and non-violent, and the non-violent varieties of jihad relative to the violent varieties of jihad, takes place today astronomically far more prevalently.

    Yet, because the USA is blinded by PC multiculturalism and moral equivalence, violent jihad is always conflated with terrorism, and as a result the non-violent varieties of jihad, which again takes place astronomically far more prevalently relative to the violent varieties of jihad, are not only totally unacknowledged and unopposed today, they are also actively being encouraged, and that suicidal stupidity is analogous to the USA and the West totally ignoring the covert war waged by the Soviet Union during the Cold War, when the Cold War was far more a covert war than it was a hot war.

    Had we been so blinded by PC multiculturalism and moral equivalence during the Cold War as we are today, we would inevitably have lost that war, and if we remain as blinded by PC multiculturalism and moral equivalence as we are today, we will inevitably lose this war as well.

    Indeed, had GWB been the President of the USA at the end of WWII instead of President Truman, he would have inevitably declared Communism a “Totalitarian Ideology of Peace” being hijacked by a tiny minority of extremists. Then he would have committed US troops to pursue silly fantasy based nation-building missions in Eastern Block Soviet Communist nations propping up Communist states that would inevitably be our enemies exactly like Afghanistan and Iraq are, while at the same time opening up the floodgates for millions of moderate Communists and the KGB to immigrate and infiltrate the USA and to become a fifth column. The same way he kept the floodgates opened to mass Muslim immigration and the Muslim Brotherhood to infiltrate and become a fifth column after 9/11.

    In any event, like Communism, Islam is far more a form of totalitarianism than it is a religion or anything else, as just like Communism, Islam seeks world domination and the end result of Islam, exactly like Communism, is totalitarianism.

    Pakistan also possesses nuclear weapons

    That's the crux of the problem. We need to get the hell our of Afghanistan ASAP because our mission is totally fantasy based and extremely counterproductive. At the same time though we must either destroy Pakistan's nuclear weapons arsenal or otherwise force Pakistan to give it up.

    and a more cooperative civilian government empowered that would establish peace with its neighbors and ensure the complete safety of those nuclear weapons.

    Man…I don't know what the writer is smoking, but whatever it is he needs to email me some because judging by his stupidity it must be some pretty good stuff.

    But more importantly, Pakistan is the headquarters of worldwide jihad. That was made abundantly clear in the case of Osama bin Laden.

    I hate to rain on this moronic writer's idiotic parade, but Saudi Arabia is the international headquarters of worldwide jihad, as again the non-violent varieties of jihad, which this writer is completely oblivious of, relative to the violent varieties of jihad, takes place astronomically far more prevalently today. Yet, because the writer of this lame article is blinded by the same PC multicultural myths that blinds our federal government and indeed both major political parties in the USA today, he doesn't have the first clue. The harsh reality is Pakistan is a poodle of Saudi Arabia and used by them to deflect unwanted attention away from them.

    • Matt

      I anxiously await some fool to refute your post, well said my friend.

      • ObamaYoMoma

        Me to, but to this date no one has been able to successfully do it because it is impossible. Thanks, my friend.

  • phillyfanatic

    WOW. Obama is now Patton. He has promised not to do anything to upset ….the Muslims. He wants to take credit for killing Bennie. He wants to take credit for killing Quadddddaffy. Now, he is on to the Paks. What a guy! Of course, the domestic horrors he has foisted on the USA overwhelms the American people. Dealing with the Paks will not be a thing they will approve of …of course there is still Iran out there who will use their nukes against us and the Israelis. Oh well, it is election season and Bama has gone a long way from his protesting community organizer leftist socialist days to be the same in the WH. Yikes.

    • Amused

      He did a helluva lot more than Bush , but because he's Obama , the object of the standard overt hatred and personal animus , it's all the wrong moves.

  • alphakilosingh

    Unless the objective is 'Bombing Pakistan back to Stone Age' as threatened by Donald Rumsfeld in Oct 2001, and that can be achieved very quickly; there is no use going to another war.

    • IAR

      it is not 2001 any more…

    • ObamaYoMoma

      Specifically, we need to take out Pakistan's nuke arsenal and their nuclear facilities, which has been expanded exponentially courtesy of US foreign aid. We also need to destroy Iran's nuclear weapons program before it reaches fruition.

      Indeed, instead of fighting an insane “war on terrorism,” which is ludicrous since terrorism is a product of Western civilization only, while jihad, which is fighting in the cause of Allah against non-Muslim unbelievers to make Islam supreme, is a product of Islamic civilization only, and instead institute a policy of containment to stop the spread of Islam. Thus, since the two biggest threats to freedom in the world today are Pakistan’s nuclear weapons arsenal and Iran's impending acquisition of nuclear weapons, then they should be strategically prioritized and eliminated.

      Indeed, this should have been the correct policy since 9/11/2001. Indeed, the notion that the Islamic world can simply be democratized like Islam is just another faith-based religion instead of what it really is, which is a supremacist theo-political totalitarian ideology with the fundamental mission of subjugating the entire world via the imposition of Sharia in order to make Islam supreme, is ludicrous and more than just a little unhinged.

      • WilliamJamesWard

        The place was Fallujah when the end could have been made by the Bush
        Administration. Al Sadar and his thugs could have been destroyed and the
        City flattened, buldozed, the wells poisoned for a thousand years. No other
        City in Islam would tollerate troublemakers that bring out this kind of action.
        The women and children could have been spared if the men let them go
        which I doubt but it was the crucial moment and it passed and the
        rest is history. It may be that another importunate moment will appear
        but the destruction of the nuclear capability in Islam is absolutely necessar
        as you expose. Will Obamas agenda be replaced next year with a
        realist call to action, seems our fate is in the balance………………William

        • ObamaYoMoma

          Unfortunately, as for as I can tell, both major political parties in this country are preponderantly blinded by political correct multiculturalism, with a very few exceptions such as Congressman Allen West. With respect to the candidates running for the Republican Party nomination, as for as I can tell they are all blinded by PC multiculturalism as well. However, it would be suicidal for one's presidential hopes for a candidate to start speaking the truth about Islam during a presidential campaign. It would definitely not be the correct time to begin educating the American public.

          In addition, Fox News Network, which most leftists consider to be conservative is not conservative at all. Indeed, it is the neo-con news network and neo-cons for the most part are RINOs. Thus, its coverage of the Islamic world, Muslims, and Islam is primarily misinformation exactly like the lamestream press.

          As a matter of fact, the official position of the US government is that Islam is a so-called Religion of Peace™ being hijacked by a tiny minority of extremists and that “jihad is a holy struggle, a legitimate tenet of Islam, meaning to purify oneself or one's community, and there is nothing holy or legitimate or Islamic about murdering innocent men, women and children.” Thus, that is likewise the official position of the lamestream media and Fox News in the USA, while the truth about Islam is considered to be Islamophobic.

  • Amused

    Another war ? A defacto war already exists between Pakistan and the US . ISI overtly facilitates haqqani , taliban , and whoever else wants to take a shot at us . They pardonned and exonerated their rogue Nuclear scientist Khan who spread bomb making technology to any enemy of the US or Israel .He in fact is elevated to hero status .And this goes back far beyond Obama or Bush . I guess no one here is old enough to remember the India Pakistan war in the beginning of the 70's .And guess whose side we took then .They were called West Pakistan then and sent their Armies under Bhutto to East Pakistan ,slaughtering almost 2 million Hindus and Shia . India intervened and drove them back . Paskistan is the same duplicitous barbarian .

    • MAM

      You know nothing about 70's india pakistan war. Infact it was a war instigated by india through Mukhti bani terror group. The terror group got all the training from india and when they were losing then india attacked pakistan. America had put sanction on pakistan at that time and didnt do a $hit to help pakistan out.

      • ObamaYoMoma

        You are a taqiyya artist!

      • Amused

        I was THERE ARSEHOLE . From Karachi to Bombay ,Madras Calcutta , Chittagong Chalna and Colombo of what was the former Ceylon . I was in Chittagong Harbor as the bodies were piled up and floating like baloons in the water .The West Pakistani Commanders ordered their troops to kill as many Hindus and Shia as they could , and they did -men ,women and children . India being a Hindu Nation , and having long standing differences with West Pakistan, intervened . The very reason the two Pakistans came into existance was due to religious /tribal rivaly Bengali and Punjabi .
        Ideologically the US sided with the Bhutto Regime , and Red China ,East Pakistan . East Pakistan produced the goods and was controlled by the West until they gained power in parliament , and that's when the West attempted to crush them .And of course West pakstan was predominately Sunni . Go get an education MAM , you're either ignorant or a Pakistani .

  • cervitut

    This article have few truthful points but mostly a lot of speculations and day dreaming.

    As soon as USA enters pakistan then immediatly pakistanis will be facing 'use it or loose it' dilemma about it's nuclear weapons. If the pakistanis would keep their word about hitting back hard ts then they would unleash them on US forces in Bagram airbase in kabul and on american navy in the arabian sea. There is historical evidence on what such weapons can do. After this things can get even more uglier in the region.

    Right now the USA dont have enough fire power, men and protection in the region to take on pakistan. It would require months of bulidup before the US can take any such disastrous step.

    • ObamaYoMoma

      Wrong. The USA has plenty enough firepower in the region to destroy Pakistan many times over. However, the political willpower to use that firepower is what has been lacking. Nevertheless, we are fast approaching the point where that firepower may have to be employed, as the American people are fast losing patience with continued pursuance of fantasy based missions.

      • WilliamJamesWard

        Defunding Pakistan is the first step, it may be that they will fold like a house
        of cards without American money, it is the purest insanity to keep on giving
        these murderers money…………………….William

        • ObamaYoMoma

          To begin with, we never should have provided foreign aid to Pakistan or for that matter any other Islamic country as they are ALL ENEMIES. Hell, the two countries we are currently propping up via fantasy based nation-building missions are also our enemies, which is why those missions are so counterproductive. In fact, just like the notion that most Muslims are so-called moderates is a political correct myth, the notion that most Islamic countries are moderate is also a political correct myth. The reality is all Muslims are jihadists, as the ones that are not jihadists are not Muslim at all but instead blasphemous apostates that per the dictates of Islam must be executed. Thus, all Islamic countries are our enemies and all foreign aid going to Islamic countries is in essence going to our enemies.

          Like I said, we should drop the so-called “War on Terror” fiasco since we are not at war with terrorists, as terrorism is a product of Western civilization only, while jihad, on the other hand, which is holy fighting in the cause of Allah against unbelievers to make Islam supreme, is a product of Islamic civilization only. Indeed, terrorists never perpetrate terrorism against unbelievers to make Islam supreme and jihadists never wage jihad for various Western political causes.

          In its place, we should implement a policy of containing the spread of Islam similar to the Truman doctrine at the end of WWII, which was implemented to check the spread of Communism. Of course, the first step in implementing such a policy would be to prioritize the elimination of the most imminent threats such as the Iranian nuclear weapons program and Pakistan's nuclear weapons arsenal and nuclear weapons program. At the same time, mass Muslim immigration to the West must be banned and reversed ASAP. In addition, the Middle East oilfields and the unearned massive oil wealth of the Islamic world must be confiscated as well, otherwise those assets will be used to wage jihad perpetually against the West.

          • WilliamJamesWard

            The Islamists do want us dead and I am amazed how many people
            excuse this and call us war mongers for wanting to end the possibility
            that Islamists get their wish. Leftists in the desire to end our form
            of government and economic life know that by stopping our oil
            production and development we send vast wealth to the Middle East
            and cut our own throats. I like your idea of confiscating the wealth,
            our own money used against us………………………………..William

  • Amused

    Pakistan as well as Iran , are atleast snmart enough to realize that any attempt to use nukes would be their last .Even against India . As for any US militarey action ? It would most like be from the air . And btw , the US is already taking on Pakistan …in ASfghanistan and at the borders .

    • WilliamJamesWard

      If it happens, it will be sneaky, very sneaky but it will unplug American resolve
      and what will result will be a new world, I just wonder how much of our problems
      will be solved by what is becoming inevitable………………………..William

  • sam


  • sam

    China Told the US to stay away from PAKISTAN…I guess we'll see what happens

  • mus

    The US have been in Afghanistan for 10 years now and have been in similar low intensity conflict every month and every year, why is there sudden urgency now? I believe nothing will come out of this war of words and it will be continued business as usual. The rag tag taliban farmer boys will continue to hunt for the Americans and the process getting killed in larger number. The only thing that can stop this if the American people looses it's patience and America getting financially broke. Already about 1000 billion dollars have been spent on this war in the waste land.
    There something wrong about America and psychy of it's rulers when they continue to put themselves in conflict and trouble against other people around the world. A war is fought every 5 -10 years by the US against some poor country and during peace time butting in every country's internal politics and buying their rulers with dollars or exchanging harsh words with other countries where the US cannot buy their people..
    It is a never ending story and disaster.

  • mus

    The US have been in Afghanistan for 10 years now and have been in similar low intensity conflict every month and every year, why is there sudden urgency now? I believe nothing will come out of this war of words and it will be continued business as usual. The rag tag taliban farmer boys will continue to hunt for the Americans and the process getting killed in larger number. The only thing that can stop this if the American people looses it's patience and America getting financially broke. Already about 1000 billion dollars have been spent on this war in the waste land.

  • DDearborn


    This is to provide cover for Israel to bomb Iran. And also to get America's focus away from the Trillions more that the FED is illegally handing over to its banking buddies around the world. And of course to help Obama get reelected!

  • Bob Marshall

    The US invades country after country while the sheepe remain silent. The neocons and coporate America are making fools of million of people and they are too ignorant to understand. " America buys war like children gobble candy." Henry Kissenger. Was he ever right?

    • WilliamJamesWard

      Kissinger was a big mistake all by himself…………….William

  • The truth

    I say let the war come. The US is the most arrogant nation on this planet. Lets see how well it can fight against a worthy enemy. Personally i think Pakistan is gonna rip US apart. Also with China as its ally this can start world war 3. Israel will be obilerated by Pakistani nukes. Nor will Iran just sit there and watch. I cant believe that 1in4 child in the US lives below world average poverty line and yet US is so arrogant and thinks it can start a war against China's ally using Chinese money. well u know what they say "arrogance: the never dying virtue of fools".

    • alphakilosingh

      Your statement is really full of humility. Pakistan is really a worthy enemy USA should be afraid of. USA should also thank Pakistan for not obliterating it after it violated Pakistan's sovereignty for killing OBL.
      I guess USA should consider handing over the charge of 'Policeman to the World' to Pakistan before retiring.

  • I.E.Brown

    I have just read on the online Pakistan News Service ( Paktribune) 23 October that President Karzai has said that Afghanistan will back Pakistan if it is invaded by the USA or India. How is that for grattitude?

    • alphakilosingh

      Words like 'Gratitude' need not be searched in the dictionary of diplomatic words. What Karzai has said is smart. Afghanistan (Read Karzai) is not going to gain anything by backing India. USA has no option but to support Karzai, who knows that once USA leaves Afghanistan, his lease is going to depend on the masters at Islamabad. Why should Karzai not take an opportunity to please Islamabad.
      And then, Karzai is a Muslim, who cannot be expected to align with an infidel in a war.

  • John

    OF COURSE the US is ready to invade Pakistan. The military forces are controlled and directed by zio corporate criminals. Look on a world map and see where many of the world's "conflicts" over the last 20-30 years have been. In areas which have key oil or strategic mineral deposits. The way US/European forces killed Qaddafi is a call out to world leaders that are interested in protecting the sovereignty of their nations to ARM themselves with nukes! As long as you have nukes, you will at least be RESPECTED by these Euro/Zio criminals……..

  • Barb

    Allen West is the only one capable of understanding how to run a war against these radicals…. NOT Hillary Clinton, not Gates, not Petreaus, not McChrystal, not Obama, not even GW Bush……….. ALLEN WEST FOR SECRETARY OF DEFENSE OR SECY OF STATE.

  • Andy Wills

    The entire strategy of COIN and ROE's is flawed and is killing and maiming our troops by the 1000's! Join us to protest this war strategy!

  • Tahir Sultan

    Ha ha ha really funny comments)) Just try to touch us and you will see how far we can go to protect our country. Do this stupid mistake if you want to see Washington DC and New york city as Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

  • Muhammad

    I dont know about the rest of the places, but people in Balochistan want someone to free them from the occupying Pakistan, be it america or any other state. yes, we hope america invades pakistan in near future….

    Pakistan did not serve its purpose, it was a mistake.

  • ObamaYoMoma

    I am concerned that those at the Pentagon who are itching to fight China will get us into a proxy was in Pakistan.

    Relax…no one in the Pentagon wants to go to war with China. That is not to say they are not unconcerned about China's rapid military buildup and its increasing aggressiveness.

  • Amused

    uh…that;s usually the purpose of a warning Chezwick .