Islamic Persecution of Christians in Malaysia

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Ibrahim also neglected to mention that the Shariah courts in this country have never granted permission for anyone ‘born’ to Islam to leave it. So even if Lina had gone to the Shariah courts, enduring yet more years of harassment and humiliation, she would have not only been denied her freedom as supposedly guaranteed by Malaysia’s constitution, but she also would have been undoubtedly thrown into a government ‘religious purification centre’ (a prison) for ‘treatment’.

Malaysian terrorist Azahari Husin did not kill any Christian in Malaysia since he was active in Indonesia before he was killed by Indonesian policemen.

We are supposed to be comforted by the fact that Azahari killed no one in Malaysia? For some reason I find that hardly comforting. And ‘active’ is of course a euphemism for actively murdering Australians, hotel guests, tourists, party-goers, and anyone else who was unfortunate enough to be in the vicinity of Azahari Husin’s explosives. And where did Azahari Husin get these unfortunate ideas from and who was he with at the time? Ibrahim, would you care to explain that? Azahari certainly wasn’t living in Indonesia when he decided to ‘serve a higher cause’.

Regarding the difficulty for the Christians to acquire land lots to build new churches, their difficulty was not due to the protests from the Muslims but they have to fulfill the laws and by-laws in the cities or towns where the churches were intended to be constructed.

Ibrahim won’t tell you that these Malaysian laws and by-laws are designed to discriminate precisely against non Muslim houses of worship. For example of this, consider one Catholic church in Malaysia which took 28 years to construct and was finally completed in 2005. Most of that 28 year period was taken up with wrangling with the Muslim authorities over construction and permit issues. The Roman Catholic Church of the Divine Mercy in Shah Alam was only allowed to be built in an industrial estate. Other Malaysian churches are forced to operate in shop lots — and the unlucky ones get demolished.  And don’t forget that 79 temples have been destroyed in the last 54 years in this country. That’s how ‘fair’ these Muslim-written laws and by-laws are.

By spreading the false news about Islam’s persecution of Christians in Malaysia, it is very serious and bad strategy for Muslims and Christians in Malaysia because if Muslims and Christians happen to believe and react to such false news, the imagined attacks may become real.

So far, the only person spreading ‘false news’ about Islam’s persecution of Christians in Malaysia is you, “Ibrahim.”  And note the naked threat of violence here — if we infidels don’t stop complaining about the persecution which Ibrahim vehemently denies existing, well, then we could be attacked by, um, someone. Attacked by Buddhists perhaps? Or might those people be your co-religionists, Ibrahim? And would you be among them?

Do not put Malaysia in the same categories with other countries where there wars or killings between Muslims and Christians like happening in Sudan and Nigeria and some other majority Muslim countries.

How dare I put Malaysia in the same category as other Muslim-ruled states! Where would I get the idea that Muslims would carry out large scale killings of Christians?  Oh that’s right — it’s already happening and been happening in many majority Muslim countries. Sudan and Nigeria are the mere tip of the iceberg. Never mind the vicious, systematic persecution of Christians by Muslims that occurs on a daily basis in virtually every Muslim-controlled country.

The shameless apologetics and outright lies of “Ibrahim,” with a touch of menace thrown in, are typical of his kind. Is any Malaysian Muslim (Malay) willing to publicly disavow himself or herself from the injustice and persecution that are the hallmarks of the Muslim maladministration of Malaysia? The next one I hear about will be the first.

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  • Tim Andrew Jones

    WTF is "The Anti-Jihadist"? "The"? Like you are some lone warrior battling at the vanguard of civilization's war with Islam. I like your work, but come on, get yourself a pseudonym if you're that scared of revealing yourself. "The Anti-Jihadist" comes over as really self-indulgent, lacking in imagination (define yourself in terms of what you fight for, not against), and just plain silly. People who otherwise might take you seriously are very unlikely to with a name like that.

  • jacob

    This has has been happening for longer than I wish to remember but I would like
    to ask a question :

    How about banning the entry of merchandise made in or assembled in MALAYSIA
    (which are quite a few) until this sad state of affairs is corrected (and proven so)
    once and for all ???

    This kind of nations MUST be hit where it hurts the most, which is nowhere else
    but the pocket….

  • AntiSharia

    Sharia strikes again. Islam is like the mafia, once you're in you're not allowed to get out, and anyone who opposes you is to be harassed into silence, or killed.

  • Dispozovdaburka

    It is time for the world to put the Islamic Genie or Jinn back into the bottle
    and send it back
    to the depths of the abyss from which it came.

  • Ghostwriter

    And Muslims continue to wonder why their religion is thought of so negatively in America.

  • jasonz

    muslims will never admit to their trechory. for them (and it is CLEARY shown and documented) any and all actions are justified in the spreading and defense of islam. and for them 'defense' means any religion other than islam is considered an active threat which must be destroyed. Muslims are sick animals which must be put down. Obama, and the libs think they can reason with them or use them to their advantage. not understanding that islam will destroy them once their usefulness is over. Its simply time to put down old yeller. so why are we actually even entertaining the idea that we can do anything else but eliminate islam and survive. call me islamaphobic or whatever you want. just understand that the fact that you are still alive to do so is due to the people like me who understand the threat of islam and understands and has the sac to do what is needed

  • Ibrahim

    It seems to me that this second writing from unknown or unnamed Malaysian Christian entitled, "Islamic Persecution of Christians in Malaysia", is indeed intended to respond to the comments written by Ibrahim to his interview entitled, Islam's Persecution of Christians in Malaysia, dated June 22, 2011. He wished to show again and again that the contents of his interview are nothing but all truths and facts about the Malays or Muslims in Malaysia in their relations with the Christians and they are responsible for persecuting the Christians in Malaysia. He could not provide his readers with the years and numbers of persecuted Christians in Malaysia. He was able to provide the number of the Chinese killed in the riots in Indonesia in 1965-66, "At least 500,000 Chinese died in the 1965-66 Indonesian riots." Were these Indonesia Chinese Christians? I am not sure if all the killed Chinese in Indonesia were Christians. In Malaysia, I am sure, some Chinese are Christians. Some Chinese in Malaysia are Muslims too. The case of Lina Joy is the legal case in Malaysia. According to this article, "she has since left the country for safer (non Muslim) shores." Did Aishah Bukhari also leave Malaysia for safer non-Muslim shores? She also converted to Christianity and married to her Christian man. However, she did not go to the Malaysian courts to get her religion on her MyKad deleted like Lina Joy did and failed. Since I am living in Malaysia like the Malaysian Christian who wrote this article, I think he needs to provide his readers with the empirical and statistical data like he provided for those killed in the riots in Indonesia in 1965-66 although his stated number probably questioned by Indonesians. However, at least there was the number of Chinese killed during the riots in Indonesia. I have seen the churches in Malaysia and their clean and beautiful surroundings in small and big cities. There are preschool classes for Christian children in the churches compounds or very close the the churches. I think this Malaysian Christian wishes to make Malaysia like the United Kingdom (UK) and the United States of America (USA) where the freedom of religion as well as its religious conversions is private and personal, not communal and national. Historically, there are Christian sects in the USA arrested and persecuted in the American courts because they did not obey the American laws such as their polygamous practices, underage wives and drug abuses. In my observation in Malaysia, this Malaysian Christian does not really prove his thesis namely Islamic persecution of Christians in Malaysia. His thesis is probably his bad dream due to his own psychological and social situations.

    • Crossbow87

      Ah, that's right…anyone who claims that Muslims murder and extort Christians must have psychological issues. In my opinion the author made their case, clearly supported it with data. You just don't like the argument. What's more, you are using that other Muslim tactic of moral equivalence….the US would not admit Utah as a state until the Mormons gave up polygamy and that is in all ways morally equal to Muslim mobs and courts and police officers and elected officials participating in and colluding with murder, robbery and extortion. You're right, those two things are exactly equal.

  • Jim

    So where the National Council of Churches and all the other busy bodies during the Islamic persecution of innocents…

    At one time the Muslims were persecuting the Chinese but not for religious reasons. It was for economic reasons. The Chinese mad a lot more money.

    Of course religion did make an appearance as the Maylays called the Chinese "Jews".

    The Chinese being the good business men they are all changed their names to Islamic names. Problem solved

  • G Carson

    Islam denies the divinity of Jesus Christ.

  • Crossbow87

    I read your link….it demonstrates one thing; Muslims will say literally anything to protect the lie that is their religion. As a Christian I will not give you credit for anything. Your worldview is plainly evil, you do not know God nor his son Jesus Christ as he proclaimed Himself to be and I endeavor to fight Muslims and their lies at every opportunity.

  • G Carson

    So your Muslim Taqqiya will not work here.