Thought Control on Islam


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This entire guilt by association campaign is extremely disturbing to us at the Legal Project at the MEF.  Maligning one side of the debate here does not empower or enable an unfettered dialogue on Islam-related topics.  Instead, it shuts it down.  In addition, this guilt by association campaign against the counterjihadis is also not a particularly persuasive argument.

  • The claim that various counterjihadhis “fostered” the Norway attack seems, in some cases, to be impossible, and in other cases, just extremely unlikely.  As Robert Spencer has pointed out, according to Breivik’s own manifesto, Breivik chose to turn to violence way back in the 90’s, before Spencer, or many of the other counterjihadis, were blogging, or were famous for their blogging about Islam-related issues.
  • To accuse someone of fostering the violence of another person, or of being dangerously similar to a violent individual, would seem to require that the person either: 1) writes specifically, or, by implication, in favor of violent action, or 2) writes or implies that non-violent action on this topic is useless.  Yet, few of the counterjihadis smeared have come out in favor of violence.
  • Another problem with accusing the counterjihadis of fostering the Norway attacks, or of being fellow travelers with Breivik, is that this starts a ridiculous precedent.  In the manifesto, Breivik linked to the writings of a diverse group of authors that also included such figures as Winston Churchill, John F. Kennedy, Naomi Klein, Mark Twain, Thomas Jefferson, Charles Darwin, and Mohatma Gandhi.  Are all of these people also to blame for fostering his violence, or for being fellow travelers of Anders Breivik?  Of particular note, there is former President John F. Kennedy, whom Brevik quotes as saying, “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”  (Breivik’s Manifesto, Pg. 559)  Did this quote prompt Brevik’s decision to turn to violence?

It is unfortunate that many in the Western elite media are so resistant to having an honest discussion about Islam-related topics.  But they are certainly entitled to avoid such a debate.  What they are not entitled to do, however, is to use the terrorist attack in Norway as a way to stop this discussion.  And that is exactly what they are trying to do now.

Adam Turner serves as staff counsel to the Middle East Forum’s Legal Project. He is a former counsel to the Senate Judiciary Committee where he focused on national security law. Visit legal-project.org.

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To get the whole story on why the Left silences criticism of our totalitarian enemies, read Jamie Glazov’s book, United in Hate: The Left’s Romance with Tyranny and Terror.

 

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  • OneMansOpinion

    It is absurd to claim, as you do, that "liberal apologists" are responsible for silencing "commentators and scholars who work on Islam-related issues" in the US.

    I would also be interested in seeing any actual research showing a causal connection between the Norwegian Labor Party's gains in the September 10 election over the Progress Party and the January 10th attack. Simply claiming they were due mainly to a "sympathy vote" is otherwise unfounded.

    According to many reports, the gain by Labor was almost entirely explained by low voter turnout of Progress Party supporters. If they stayed home where did the sympathy come from? Additionally, the Conservative Party gained 9% in that election. Was that from "sympathy" too?

    • Alvaro

      "According to many reports, the gain by Labor was almost entirely explained by low voter turnout of Progress Party supporters. If they stayed home where did the sympathy come from? Additionally, the Conservative Party gained 9% in that election. Was that from "sympathy" too?"

      It is an easy explanation. Høyre (Conservatives) and Arbeiderpartiet (Labor) were the election winners at the cost of FrP (Progress Party) and SV (Socialist Left Party). A lot of voters shift between Høyre and FrP on one side, and between Arbeiderpartiet and SV on the other side. In this election they gravitated towards Høyre and Arbeiderpartiet.

      And yes, there was a lot of sympathy at first. Polls showed that Labor gained 10% almost over night. But it had somewhat faded when the election came.
      http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kommunestyre-_og_fyl

  • http://www.contextflexed.com Flipside

    It does not make me a liberal elite to notice that Anders Breivik is a murderous devotee of Robert Spencer. That is simple fact. It was amusing though how you tried to make the bloggers affiliated with this site seem “prominent.” The rules for good FPM writing require that all criticism of the neocons be labelled “liberal,” a term historically a euphemism for Jews in a media cartel, and secondly, to make the bloggers here appear as respected, credited, and accomplished people.

    • Ted G

      However lies like this do put you in the same category as liberals .
      Come on Flippy that's just total BS. First, facts are not simple they either are or are not!
      But this is beyond the pale "Breivik is a murderous devotee of Robert Spencer"
      Please support this fabrication with quotes from R.Spencer that promote or advocate violence.
      Based on your comment shall I assume that you are a defender of the misogynistic and murderous cult they call islam?
      You do this just to push buttons don't cha? If you are not a MB troll you sure seem to be propagating their propaganda.

      • http://www.contextflexed.com Flipside

        I read the Breivik manifesto when it came out. It is page after page cribbed from JihadWatch and Little Green Footballs.

        • Ted G

          Language and the written word are pretty amazing aren't they Flip. They can be both wondrous and evil at the same time. But is it language and words themselves that are evil or wondrous? Or the ideas being conveyed or promoted by them?

          While as I understand it is true that the writings of R. Spencer and btw many others including past Presidents are included in the psycho's manifesto, shall we condemn all the writings? What if the writings are true? Does the truth bear responsibility for this heinous act of murder?

          So once again I challenge you to show where in any of his writings he supports violence in any form. In smearing R. Spencer in this manner you prove yourself to be at the least intellectually dishonest. But IMHO and assuming you to be of at least average intelligence you are deliberately promoting a lie. Therefore at the most you a reprehensible human being and a propagandist of the highest order.

  • Robert Pinkerton

    The opponents of Muslim immigration into the West needed Andy Bear-briefs like they needed 9mm holes in their foreheads. What ABB did was to make martyrs of the people he killed.

  • ObamaYoMoma

    Obviously, Anders Breivik wasn't sane. Had he been sane he would have foreseen the ramifications to his pet cause of his actions. Of course, he could also have another ulterior motive no one knows about as well.

  • No Dhimmi tool

    I'm a lifelong "bleeding heart liberal," and I just can't understand the pathology that allows for any thinking person to defend, enable or empower Islam in any way, shape or form.

    Here is what these idiotic lefties are supporting, from the mouths of Muslim spokesmen themselves:

    Islamic supremacy and global domination
    Prohibition of music and singing
    Imprisonment, flogging, torture and death for homosexuals
    Jihad to force Islam on the world
    Jews as apes and pigs
    Jews as the eternal enemies of Muslims
    Osama bin Laden in Paradise
    Raping women okay in Islam
    Female genital mutilation "obligatory" in Islam
    Sex slaves for Muslim men
    Child marriage/rape
    Mohammed having sex with a 9-year-old girl
    Wife beating
    Death for "insulting" Mohammed
    Death to apostates and infidels
    Genocide of Americans
    Jihad to "raid the world"
    Non-Muslims being not innocent and subject to death
    http://islamreality.wordpress.com

  • Ghostwriter

    Brevik was a lunatic,pure and simple. He deserves to spend the rest of his miserable life either in an insane asylum or jail. Personally,they should just hang him and put him,and the rest of us,out of his misery.

    • http://www.contextflexed.com Flipside

      All Breivik is a lone actor acting on the deranged words of Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer. The freakier part is that the propaganda he acted on was intended by Zionists to push entire countries to war against Islam. Breivik is what a neocon psychopath would look like if he actually fought instead of writing for a Hasbara.

      • UCSPanther

        I guess, since I read this site, am pro-Israel and own a Ruger Mini 14, that makes me by your warped definition, a mass murderer.

        Gimme a break. Your thinking is right along the lines of Norway's political elites.

        The fact you hang around here making stupid comments shows that you have no life.

      • Ghostwriter

        Still managed to work in your anti-Jewish garbage,didn't you,Flipside?