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		<title>By: Schlomotion</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/arlene-kushner/yes-obama-did-throw-israel-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-3789696</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 12:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s funny that you use a slur against me that is a euphemism for &quot;Jews.&quot; &lt;i&gt;Liberals&lt;/i&gt;. Historically, that word means &quot;Jewish soci.alists.&quot; You seem to be using it also to mean Fabians. But what I said was simple. I said that I don&#039;t see why people should tolerate hostile separatist enclaves in their own countries that cleave to a foreign, Jewish homeland. Why isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;e pluribus unum&lt;/i&gt; good enough for them? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#039;s funny that you use a slur against me that is a euphemism for &quot;Jews.&quot; <i>Liberals</i>. Historically, that word means &quot;Jewish soci.alists.&quot; You seem to be using it also to mean Fabians. But what I said was simple. I said that I don&#039;t see why people should tolerate hostile separatist enclaves in their own countries that cleave to a foreign, Jewish homeland. Why isn&#039;t <i>e pluribus unum</i> good enough for them? </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 06:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; I counted around 15 so far.&quot; 
 
Probably a lot more than that, but I never had any use to count or organize them. Like I said, they&#039;re just trivial suggestions that some people find useful and no harm is done in considering them. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot; I counted around 15 so far.&quot; </p>
<p>Probably a lot more than that, but I never had any use to count or organize them. Like I said, they&#039;re just trivial suggestions that some people find useful and no harm is done in considering them. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 05:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Sure.  
United States  
France  
Canada  
Germany  
England &quot; 
 
Oh, ok. I get it. Occupy has a different meaning to you than to others. Maybe if we can all agree on a single system of justice, we can have global citizenship and an end to your kind of &quot;occupation.&quot; Not bloody likely, but liberals love that dream... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Sure.<br />
United States<br />
France<br />
Canada<br />
Germany<br />
England &quot; </p>
<p>Oh, ok. I get it. Occupy has a different meaning to you than to others. Maybe if we can all agree on a single system of justice, we can have global citizenship and an end to your kind of &quot;occupation.&quot; Not bloody likely, but liberals love that dream&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Schlomotion</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 05:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was helpful. I am curious just how many rundowns you actually know. I counted around 15 so far. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was helpful. I am curious just how many rundowns you actually know. I counted around 15 so far. </p>
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		<title>By: Schlomotion</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 05:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure.  
  
United States  
France  
Canada  
Germany  
England  
  
Iceland is remarkably bereft of any Zionist enclave. 
 
If you are an Abe Foxman, you are particularly fixated on the stability of Zionist enclaves in Austria, France, Germany, Hungary, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Spain and the United Kingdom.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure.  </p>
<p>United States<br />
France<br />
Canada<br />
Germany<br />
England  </p>
<p>Iceland is remarkably bereft of any Zionist enclave. </p>
<p>If you are an Abe Foxman, you are particularly fixated on the stability of Zionist enclaves in Austria, France, Germany, Hungary, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Spain and the United Kingdom.  </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/arlene-kushner/yes-obama-did-throw-israel-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-3785989</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 04:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;In your diatribes against Israel and defense of palesimians I note you never have much to say about the charter of Hamas, which specifically cites one of the &quot;authenticated&quot; verses of the holy hadeeth of islam that calls for the extermination of Jews.&quot; 
 
If any Jew ever said anything hostile, that&#039;s morally equal to Hamas or any other agent who has an active plan to rule the world with Sharia or any totalitarian ideology. That&#039;s how moral equivalent ideology operates. You don&#039;t have any right to criticize anyone because flaws can be mentioned that superficially draw attention to the imperfections of your argument or the side you defend. 
 
With such a mentality, discourse is pointless. However, third-parties still read what we write so it&#039;s worth taking the questions seriously. Which means of course that you are correct and this is a big concern that no apologist has ever successfully explained.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;In your diatribes against Israel and defense of palesimians I note you never have much to say about the charter of Hamas, which specifically cites one of the &quot;authenticated&quot; verses of the holy hadeeth of islam that calls for the extermination of Jews.&quot; </p>
<p>If any Jew ever said anything hostile, that&#039;s morally equal to Hamas or any other agent who has an active plan to rule the world with Sharia or any totalitarian ideology. That&#039;s how moral equivalent ideology operates. You don&#039;t have any right to criticize anyone because flaws can be mentioned that superficially draw attention to the imperfections of your argument or the side you defend. </p>
<p>With such a mentality, discourse is pointless. However, third-parties still read what we write so it&#039;s worth taking the questions seriously. Which means of course that you are correct and this is a big concern that no apologist has ever successfully explained.  </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 04:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The other day when you tried all your psychological rundowns, you forgot to use this one. You forgot to claim that you are the factual reasoner and I am the emotional reasoner.&quot; 
 
 
Psychology has little to do with science, but it can generate suggestions that reasonable people can occasionally find helpful. It&#039;s more like a last resort for people who ignore facts. You want to help them understand their own fallacies. 
 
&quot;I am glad you got around to using that technique.&quot; 
 
I hope you found it helpful, in the future if not already. 
  
&quot;Incidentally, since none of this is a scientific study, your Myers-Briggs high ground is not a high ground.&quot; 
 
Straw man argument. I merely make suggestions after the facts are discussed and ignored. Your mileage may vary. 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;The other day when you tried all your psychological rundowns, you forgot to use this one. You forgot to claim that you are the factual reasoner and I am the emotional reasoner.&quot; </p>
<p>Psychology has little to do with science, but it can generate suggestions that reasonable people can occasionally find helpful. It&#039;s more like a last resort for people who ignore facts. You want to help them understand their own fallacies. </p>
<p>&quot;I am glad you got around to using that technique.&quot; </p>
<p>I hope you found it helpful, in the future if not already. </p>
<p>&quot;Incidentally, since none of this is a scientific study, your Myers-Briggs high ground is not a high ground.&quot; </p>
<p>Straw man argument. I merely make suggestions after the facts are discussed and ignored. Your mileage may vary. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 04:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ 
&quot;just the fact that it sees fit to exist in more than one country&quot; 
 
Please list them. 
 
Thanks ]]></description>
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&quot;just the fact that it sees fit to exist in more than one country&quot; </p>
<p>Please list them. </p>
<p>Thanks </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 04:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who writes these lines for you? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who writes these lines for you? </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/arlene-kushner/yes-obama-did-throw-israel-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-3785930</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 04:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Oh yes, anyone who is hostile to this anti-American president is a bigot or a racist, therefore no need to think any further!&quot; 
 
That&#039;s the standard formula to follow once you&#039;ve sipped enough off their Kool-Aid. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Oh yes, anyone who is hostile to this anti-American president is a bigot or a racist, therefore no need to think any further!&quot; </p>
<p>That&#039;s the standard formula to follow once you&#039;ve sipped enough off their Kool-Aid. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/arlene-kushner/yes-obama-did-throw-israel-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-3785907</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 03:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Raymond Rev Wright would disagree with you!&quot; 
 
Only when he&#039;s lying. Actually, Rev Wright admitted that Obama did not reject Islam and did not have a clear conversion story. He practically paved the way to confirm that it was about politics. There&#039;s plenty more evidence from the start of Obama&#039;s life through today, but don&#039;t let the facts interfere with your opinions. I&#039;m sure we wouldn&#039;t be arguing if they ever did. 
 
You&#039;re not well-informed at all. Do a little research on what Wright actually said before paraphrasing him or speaking about his views. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Raymond Rev Wright would disagree with you!&quot; </p>
<p>Only when he&#039;s lying. Actually, Rev Wright admitted that Obama did not reject Islam and did not have a clear conversion story. He practically paved the way to confirm that it was about politics. There&#039;s plenty more evidence from the start of Obama&#039;s life through today, but don&#039;t let the facts interfere with your opinions. I&#039;m sure we wouldn&#039;t be arguing if they ever did. </p>
<p>You&#039;re not well-informed at all. Do a little research on what Wright actually said before paraphrasing him or speaking about his views. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 03:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you cut and paste your own silly comments, or are you not even the author of these silly statements? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you cut and paste your own silly comments, or are you not even the author of these silly statements? </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 03:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ &quot;Who Threw Israel Under the Bus&quot;?, how does that make Obama the most anti-Israel of presidents? The settlements freeze may or may not not end up being a condition for future negotiations. How long is a freeze ? Compared to forcing Israel not to retaliate in 1991, withholding $10 billion in loan guarantees, forcing the Road Map....&quot; 
 
Obama is the first president that I am aware of other than Carter who presumed that there is no fault to the war. It just happened according to them, or if you look closely, they will tend to offer up excuses that the Islamic imperialists can use to actually blame the victim; Israel. 
 
Calling Israel a colony or colonial power is beyond absurd, unless facts don&#039;t matter. 
 
You&#039;re right that virtually every president has put unfair pressure on Israel in light of the need for steady supplies of oil from unreasonable sovereigns, even though those sovereigns owe us everything. The generations that built those states forget to teach their descendants the salient history. Our schools have allowed a lot of stupid students to imagine that they know how to think effectively when they clearly don&#039;t. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> &quot;Who Threw Israel Under the Bus&quot;?, how does that make Obama the most anti-Israel of presidents? The settlements freeze may or may not not end up being a condition for future negotiations. How long is a freeze ? Compared to forcing Israel not to retaliate in 1991, withholding $10 billion in loan guarantees, forcing the Road Map&#8230;.&quot; </p>
<p>Obama is the first president that I am aware of other than Carter who presumed that there is no fault to the war. It just happened according to them, or if you look closely, they will tend to offer up excuses that the Islamic imperialists can use to actually blame the victim; Israel. </p>
<p>Calling Israel a colony or colonial power is beyond absurd, unless facts don&#039;t matter. </p>
<p>You&#039;re right that virtually every president has put unfair pressure on Israel in light of the need for steady supplies of oil from unreasonable sovereigns, even though those sovereigns owe us everything. The generations that built those states forget to teach their descendants the salient history. Our schools have allowed a lot of stupid students to imagine that they know how to think effectively when they clearly don&#039;t. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 03:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;3. Ms. Kushner, of course you are comparing presidents, as we all do. I concede that freezing the settlements was about credibility with the Arabs. I also wonder if that is related to a coalition of Arab states. That has been important for the U.S. before. &quot; 
 
 
There&#039;s no wonder at all. Saudi Arabia is constantly on the private line to the Whitehouse with every president since Roosevelt. The Saudis are the most important player in the OPEC coalition. They are also a huge player in the OIC &quot;coalition&quot; of blackmail and conspiracy. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;3. Ms. Kushner, of course you are comparing presidents, as we all do. I concede that freezing the settlements was about credibility with the Arabs. I also wonder if that is related to a coalition of Arab states. That has been important for the U.S. before. &quot; </p>
<p>There&#039;s no wonder at all. Saudi Arabia is constantly on the private line to the Whitehouse with every president since Roosevelt. The Saudis are the most important player in the OPEC coalition. They are also a huge player in the OIC &quot;coalition&quot; of blackmail and conspiracy. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 03:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;2. Obama is not the first president to value credibility with the Arabs. Efraim Halevy, director of the Mossad from 1998-2002 knows what he&#039;s talking about no matter what newspapers are willing to print it. Re Arab courting, down by the ranch, W and prince Saudi Arabia / family had frighteningly deep oil ties. That&#039;s why Bin Laden&#039;s family was the only plane allowed out of the country on 9/12/2001, even though they were crucial leads on Osama.&quot; 
 
Obviously anyone who knows anything about the oil supply knows that we need &quot;credibility&quot; but not through appeasement. Occasional compromise is acceptable, but if your point is that all of the presidents compromise too much, that I&#039;ll agree with. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;2. Obama is not the first president to value credibility with the Arabs. Efraim Halevy, director of the Mossad from 1998-2002 knows what he&#039;s talking about no matter what newspapers are willing to print it. Re Arab courting, down by the ranch, W and prince Saudi Arabia / family had frighteningly deep oil ties. That&#039;s why Bin Laden&#039;s family was the only plane allowed out of the country on 9/12/2001, even though they were crucial leads on Osama.&quot; </p>
<p>Obviously anyone who knows anything about the oil supply knows that we need &quot;credibility&quot; but not through appeasement. Occasional compromise is acceptable, but if your point is that all of the presidents compromise too much, that I&#039;ll agree with. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 03:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;1, Obama said &quot;ADJUSTED WITH LAND SWAPS&quot;! in his famous pre-1967 borders sentence. (transcript anyone?) Can&#039;t land swaps be any size or shape?&quot; 
 
Maybe to a liberal, but any attorney or politician understands that Obama advanced the PA need to negotiate to that point, essentially saying that we should all forget about who caused all of the violence since 1967 and just pretend like we have no way to point to fault for any of it. Just pretend the war never happened. 
 
Sorry. Too much blood and treasure spilled for that, not to mention their ongoing rhetoric that makes it absolutely, blatantly obvious that to win such concessions would simply be a tactical gain towards their totalitarian ends. 
 
In short, the statement is driven by insanity or blind hatred. 
 
The Palestinians are always trying to blindside the Western politicians and public with ridiculous &quot;do over&quot; requests when their violence gets them in trouble. It&#039;s like giving a cookie to a child after it destroys your kitchen. We gave out lots of &quot;cookies&quot; in the past and it has to stop. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;1, Obama said &quot;ADJUSTED WITH LAND SWAPS&quot;! in his famous pre-1967 borders sentence. (transcript anyone?) Can&#039;t land swaps be any size or shape?&quot; </p>
<p>Maybe to a liberal, but any attorney or politician understands that Obama advanced the PA need to negotiate to that point, essentially saying that we should all forget about who caused all of the violence since 1967 and just pretend like we have no way to point to fault for any of it. Just pretend the war never happened. </p>
<p>Sorry. Too much blood and treasure spilled for that, not to mention their ongoing rhetoric that makes it absolutely, blatantly obvious that to win such concessions would simply be a tactical gain towards their totalitarian ends. </p>
<p>In short, the statement is driven by insanity or blind hatred. </p>
<p>The Palestinians are always trying to blindside the Western politicians and public with ridiculous &quot;do over&quot; requests when their violence gets them in trouble. It&#039;s like giving a cookie to a child after it destroys your kitchen. We gave out lots of &quot;cookies&quot; in the past and it has to stop. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 03:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;the author of the article has no facts to support his argument&quot; 
 
Wrong: 
 
Facts: &quot;On April 14, 2004, when Prime Minister Ariel Sharon was in the midst of his plans for a disengagement from Gaza, he and President Bush exchanged letters. The letter from Bush said in part: 
 
In light of new realities on the ground, including already existing major Israeli population centers, it is unrealistic to expect that the outcome of final status negotiations will be a full and complete return to the armistice lines of 1949. 
 
This was important on at least two counts. First, it spoke about armistice lines of 1949 &#8211; which is what is actually meant when people today refer to the &#8220;1967 borders.&#8221;  There were no borders, only temporary armistice lines &#8211; and Bush was acknowledging this historical fact with accuracy.&quot; 
 
Facts about Obama: 
 
&quot;Obama knew this and made his choice, even though he pretends otherwise during this election season when Jewish votes count. 
 
Remember that for his June 2009 speech to the Muslim world in Cairo University, a Muslim Brotherhood hotbed, he specifically invited members of the Muslim Brotherhood, which seeks to destroy Israel.  This is not something a friend of Israel would have done.  This was the beginning of US positions that put the Brotherhood in power in Egypt.  During that speech he already called for a &#8220;stop&#8221; to settlements, and actually equated the &#8220;suffering of the Palestinian people in pursuit of a homeland&#8221; with the horrors of the Holocaust. 
 
As well, after his inauguration, some four months previous, the very first international &#8220;leader&#8221; he called was Mahmoud Abbas of the PA. A rather pointed statement.&quot; 
 
Those are examples of facts. I don&#039;t expect to help your reading comprehension, but rather to prove that you don&#039;t know what you&#039;re talking about. If it&#039;s over your head, stop blaming others. It just might be you, and you could help yourself by seeing that. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;the author of the article has no facts to support his argument&quot; </p>
<p>Wrong: </p>
<p>Facts: &quot;On April 14, 2004, when Prime Minister Ariel Sharon was in the midst of his plans for a disengagement from Gaza, he and President Bush exchanged letters. The letter from Bush said in part: </p>
<p>In light of new realities on the ground, including already existing major Israeli population centers, it is unrealistic to expect that the outcome of final status negotiations will be a full and complete return to the armistice lines of 1949. </p>
<p>This was important on at least two counts. First, it spoke about armistice lines of 1949 &ndash; which is what is actually meant when people today refer to the &ldquo;1967 borders.&rdquo;  There were no borders, only temporary armistice lines &ndash; and Bush was acknowledging this historical fact with accuracy.&quot; </p>
<p>Facts about Obama: </p>
<p>&quot;Obama knew this and made his choice, even though he pretends otherwise during this election season when Jewish votes count. </p>
<p>Remember that for his June 2009 speech to the Muslim world in Cairo University, a Muslim Brotherhood hotbed, he specifically invited members of the Muslim Brotherhood, which seeks to destroy Israel.  This is not something a friend of Israel would have done.  This was the beginning of US positions that put the Brotherhood in power in Egypt.  During that speech he already called for a &ldquo;stop&rdquo; to settlements, and actually equated the &ldquo;suffering of the Palestinian people in pursuit of a homeland&rdquo; with the horrors of the Holocaust. </p>
<p>As well, after his inauguration, some four months previous, the very first international &ldquo;leader&rdquo; he called was Mahmoud Abbas of the PA. A rather pointed statement.&quot; </p>
<p>Those are examples of facts. I don&#039;t expect to help your reading comprehension, but rather to prove that you don&#039;t know what you&#039;re talking about. If it&#039;s over your head, stop blaming others. It just might be you, and you could help yourself by seeing that. </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Sue</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 00:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[except that it doesn&#039;t. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>except that it doesn&#039;t. </p>
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		<title>By: Vivian Gelberman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vivian Gelberman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1,  Obama said &quot;ADJUSTED WITH LAND SWAPS&quot;!  in his famous pre-1967 borders sentence. (transcript anyone?)  Can&#039;t land swaps be any size or shape?  If not, what does the phrase mean?  Why has this omission continually been made by all who have proof that Obama is the most anti-Israel president in history?  Excluding such words is rewriting history,  which never helps. 
 
2. Obama is not the first president to value credibility with the Arabs. Efraim Halevy, director of the Mossad from 1998-2002  knows what he&#039;s talking about no matter what newspapers are willing to print it.  Re Arab courting, down by the ranch, W and prince Saudi Arabia / family had frighteningly deep oil ties.  That&#039;s why Bin Laden&#039;s family was the only plane allowed out of the country on 9/12/2001, even though they were crucial leads on Osama.  

3.  Ms. Kushner, of course you are comparing presidents, as we all do. I concede that freezing the settlements was about credibility with the Arabs.  I also wonder if that is related to a coalition of Arab states.  That has been important for the U.S. before.  Anyway, given the history Halevy writes about in &quot;Who Threw Israel Under the Bus&quot;?,  how does that make Obama the most anti-Israel of presidents?  The settlements freeze may or may not not end up being a condition for future negotiations.  How long is a freeze ?  Compared to forcing Israel not to retaliate in 1991,  withholding $10 billion in loan guarantees,  forcing the Road Map....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1,  Obama said &#8220;ADJUSTED WITH LAND SWAPS&#8221;!  in his famous pre-1967 borders sentence. (transcript anyone?)  Can&#8217;t land swaps be any size or shape?  If not, what does the phrase mean?  Why has this omission continually been made by all who have proof that Obama is the most anti-Israel president in history?  Excluding such words is rewriting history,  which never helps. </p>
<p>2. Obama is not the first president to value credibility with the Arabs. Efraim Halevy, director of the Mossad from 1998-2002  knows what he&#8217;s talking about no matter what newspapers are willing to print it.  Re Arab courting, down by the ranch, W and prince Saudi Arabia / family had frighteningly deep oil ties.  That&#8217;s why Bin Laden&#8217;s family was the only plane allowed out of the country on 9/12/2001, even though they were crucial leads on Osama.  </p>
<p>3.  Ms. Kushner, of course you are comparing presidents, as we all do. I concede that freezing the settlements was about credibility with the Arabs.  I also wonder if that is related to a coalition of Arab states.  That has been important for the U.S. before.  Anyway, given the history Halevy writes about in &#8220;Who Threw Israel Under the Bus&#8221;?,  how does that make Obama the most anti-Israel of presidents?  The settlements freeze may or may not not end up being a condition for future negotiations.  How long is a freeze ?  Compared to forcing Israel not to retaliate in 1991,  withholding $10 billion in loan guarantees,  forcing the Road Map&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Schlomotion</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Schlomotion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The other day when you tried all your psychological rundowns, you forgot to use this one. You forgot to claim that you are the factual reasoner and I am the emotional reasoner. I am glad you got around to using that technique. Incidentally, since none of this is a scientific study, your Myers-Briggs high ground is not a high ground. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other day when you tried all your psychological rundowns, you forgot to use this one. You forgot to claim that you are the factual reasoner and I am the emotional reasoner. I am glad you got around to using that technique. Incidentally, since none of this is a scientific study, your Myers-Briggs high ground is not a high ground. </p>
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