Stealth Islamist Charter Schools Under Investigation

Arnold Ahlert is a former NY Post op-ed columnist currently contributing to JewishWorldReview.com, HumanEvents.com and CanadaFreePress.com. He may be reached at atahlert@comcast.net.


The charter school movement associated with Turkish Muslim cleric Fethullah Gulen is under federal investigation

If one believes that the battle for the nation’s soul is occurring, not just in Washington, D.C., but in schools across the nation, the steady advance of Turkish-Gulen Charter Schools may be cause for alarm. Fethullah Gulen is a Turkish Islamic cleric who fled his native country in 1998, after being charged with seeking to overthrow the secular Turkish government. He currently lives in exile at a 28-acre mountain complex in the Pocono Mountains, with more than $25 billion of assets at his command. The 135 charter schools associated with the Gulen Movement (GM) enroll more than 45,000 students and comprise the largest charter school network in the United States — all of which are fully funded by American taxpayers. Fethullah Gulen has been under investigation by the government since 2011.

That investigation, carried out by FBI and the Departments of Labor and Education, is centered around charter school employees who are allegedly engaged in kicking back part of their salaries to the Muslim movement also known as Hizmet (service to others), founded by Gulen. Gulen initiated his movement in Izmir, a city on Turkey’s Aegean coast, more than 40 years ago, preaching impassioned sermons to his followers, who may now number as many as six million. In Turkey, the Gulen Movement has been accused of pushing for a hardline Islamic state. Despite this reality, government officials investigating the kickback scheme are apparently satisfied that there is no religious agenda being disseminated in America. Their investigation is centered around the hundreds of Turkish teachers, administrators, and other staffers employed under the H1B visa program, who may or may not be misusing taxpayer money.

This would appear to be a stunningly naive approach to the issue. H1B visas allow US employers to hire foreign workers in specialty occupations on a temporary basis. “Specialty occupations” are defined as “requiring theoretical and practical application of a body of highly specialized knowledge in a field of human endeavor.” Gulen schools are among the nation’s largest users of the H1B visas. In 2009, they received government approvals for 684 visas. The Harmony School, a Gulen-related institution, has applied for more H1B visas than any educational institution in the country.

GM officials at some of the charter schools that ostensibly specialize in math and science, claim they need to fill teaching spots with Turkish teachers. At the Young Scholars of Central Pennsylvania Charter School in State College, Ruth Hocker, former president of the parents’ group, grew suspicious when certified American teachers began to be replaced by uncertified Turks with limited English-speaking skills who, despite that limitation, commanded higher salaries. Parents pointed out that these uncertified teachers were moved from one charter to another when their “emergency” credentials expired. They also spoke about a pattern of sudden turnovers of Turkish business managers, administrators, and board members.

Similar complaints arose in Texas, where it was revealed that hundreds of Turkish teachers and administrators were also working with H1B visas. In addition, the Harmony School group was using taxpayer money to fund Gulen’s movement via school construction and renovation projects. Despite assertions that the bidding process on those projects was fair, records showed that virtually all of the work has been done by Turkish-owned contractors, according to the New York Times.

A former teacher from Turkey revealed an ominous development, reportedly telling the FBI that the Gulen Movement had divided the United States into five regions, with a general manager in each who coordinates the activities of the schools, and related foundations and cultural centers.

All of the above raises the obvious question: if these schools are traditional American charter schools that do nothing more than “follow the state curriculum,” as Tansu Cidav, the acting CEO of the Truebright Science Academy in North Philadelphia contends, why is it necessary to hire foreign teachers and coordinate activities nationwide?

A federal document released in 2011 may provide the answer. It posits that Gulen’s charter schools may in fact be madrassahs, where students are “brain-washed” to serve as proponents of the New Islamic World Order Gulen purportedly seeks to create.

Former Muslim Brotherhood member Walid Shoebat illuminates the bigger picture. Shoebat, who was highly critical of a CBS “60 Minutes” report on Gulen (who refused to be interviewed for the piece), likens the cleric’s movement to the leftist Center for American Progress (CAP) And radical billionaire George Soros. “Both men are extremely wealthy, use that money to surreptitiously spread their ideologies, and like to operate behind the scenes as much as possible,” writes Shoebat.

The American Thinker’s Janet Levy takes it one step further. After noting that Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan belongs to the AKP political party founded by Gulen upon his arrival in Pennsylvania, she points out that “Turkey is reverting to its historical Ottoman Empire-inspired Islamic fundamentalism,” even as “it is pursuing a stealth or cultural jihad against the West, in large part through the efforts of Fethullah Gülen, a Turkish Islamic theologian.” In a 1999 video, Gulen himself spoke of a surreptitious plan for taking over the Turkish government: “You must move in the arteries of the system without anyone noticing your existence until you reach all the power centers … until the conditions are ripe … The time is not yet right. You must wait for the time when you are complete and conditions are ripe, until we can shoulder the entire world and carry it[.]”

The movement is well on its way towards achieving that aim. GM is now active in 140 countries. Aside from its charter school empire, other interests including boarding schools, universities, banks, media companies, newspapers, charities, and think tanks.

60 Minutes reporter Leslie Stahl took the typically leftist, see-no-Islamist-evil approach towards complaints about the Gulen schools advancing an Islamic agenda in America, assuring viewers that he promotes “tolerance, inter-faith dialogue and, above all, he promotes education.” Yet even Stahl was forced to acknowledge that while Gulen “invites conspiracy theories that he’s running Turkey from the Poconos and is bent on global Muslim domination,” his movement “does lack transparency: its funding, hierarchy, and ambitions remain hidden–leading our State Department to wonder in cables between Ankara and Washington if Gulen has an ‘insidious political agenda.’”

This is not the first investigation conducted of Gulen’s empire. In 2008, members of the Netherlands’ Christian Democrat, Labor, and Conservative parties agreed to cut several million euros in government funding for organizations affiliated with Gulen. An investigation ensued when Erik Jan Zürcher, director of the Amsterdam-based International Institute for Social History, along with five former followers who had worked for Gulen, told Dutch television that the Gulen community was moving step-by-step to topple the secular order.

In Pennsylvania, neighbors of Gulen’s fortress retreat complain of hearing automatic gunfire and the drone of a surveillance helicopter that constantly searches for intruders. 100 Turkish guards stand watch over the property as well. If this man and his movement–which continues to expand–have nothing to hide, they have a remarkable way of showing it.

As a Turkish observer speaking to the New Republic noted, “No society would tolerate this big of an organization being this untransparent.” The FBI’s new investigation against Gulen’s organization brings us one step closer to exposing what goes on behind the closed doors of Gulen’s empire.

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  • Mary Sue

    Now the question remains: will this make Democrats more, or less in favor of School Choice? Tough call!

  • objectivefactsmatter

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/

    How dangerous is Gulen?

    In his public statements, Gulen espouses a liberal version of Sunni/Hanafi Islam and promotes the Muslim notion of hizmet – - altruistic service to the common good.

    Despite the presence of the armed guards at his Pocono fortress, Gulen has condemned terrorism and called for interfaith dialogue. He claims to have met with Pope John Paul II, the Greek Orthodox Patriarch Bartholomeos, and Israeli Sephardic Head Rabbi Eliyahu Bakshi-Doron.

    Whether these meetings with Christian and Jewish leaders actually occurred is questionable. On his website, Gulen says that he has a UNECO award from Pope John Paul II in October, 2005. John Paul II died on April 2, 2005.

    In private, Gulen has stated that “in order to reach the ideal Muslim society every method and path is acceptable, [including] lying to people.”

    In a sermon that was aired on Turkish television, Gulen said:

    You must move in the arteries of the system without anyone noticing your existence until you reach all the power centers … until the conditions are ripe, they [the followers] must continue like this. If they do something prematurely, the world will crush our heads, and Muslims will suffer everywhere, like in the tragedies in Algeria, like in 1982 [in] Syria … like in the yearly disasters and tragedies in Egypt. The time is not yet right. You must wait for the time when you are complete and conditions are ripe, until we can shoulder the entire world and carry it … You must wait until such time as you have gotten all the state power, until you have brought to your side all the power of the constitutional institutions in Turkey … Until that time, any step taken would be too early—like breaking an egg without waiting the full forty days for it to hatch. It would be like killing the chick inside. The work to be done is [in] confronting the world. Now, I have expressed my feelings and thoughts to you all—in confidence … trusting your loyalty and secrecy. I know that when you leave here—[just] as you discard your empty juice boxes, you must discard the thoughts and the feelings that I expressed here.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    "If they do something prematurely, the world will crush our heads, and Muslims will suffer everywhere, like in the tragedies in Algeria, like in 1982 [in] Syria … like in the yearly disasters and tragedies in Egypt. The time is not yet right."

    Guess what? Some of your buddies have already outed your agenda. Time to crush heads I guess, since you'll be expecting us anyway.

  • Larry

    Ismet = Smyrna, a city founded by the Greeks 3,000 years ago, from which they were ethnically cleansed in 1923.

    Why don't those Greeks have a Right of Return.

    And why did the USA allow a muslim radical who had attempted to over throw the Govt of a country that was the US' ally to gain asylum? Which moronic Administration was responsible for that?

    Oh, that's right, the last Democrat WH, probably on advice from Holder.

    • Ayla

      Dear Larry, you must read a lot of history books because your “near past” history is obviously very very bad. Smyrna is not Ismet bu Izmir. Ismet (Izmit) is another city in Turkiye. Yes it’s true that the city founded by Greeks 3000 years ago but that does not mean that the city is a Greek city for 3000 years. There was no ethnically cleansing in 1923. There was a war for independency of Anatolian peoples from the hands of occupant forces who came from the other states to share Anatolia which was not belong to them. We are the Anatolian people, we have too many different beliefs religiously, we have too many different ethnic roots but we say us Turks. Turk is the name of people who have been living in Anatolia for thousands of years. To be a Turk, there is no need to be an ethnically Turkic or religiously Islamic. You can be a Turk if you feel as a Turk and if you share common Anatolian culture. Anatolia is our home for thousands of years. It does not matter that we are ethnically Turkic, Kurdish, Armenian, Greek, Cherkez, Manav, Mogol or religiously Islamic, Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Zoroastrian, Yazdanist…. but matter that we feel as Turks. You cannot understand this, because your grandpas were occupants in a land which was not belong to them and they “did” ethnically cleansing in Americas. Fethullah Gulen is not a Turk or not belong to us. He does not represent Turkey, Turks or Islam. He has his own religion and obviously it is not Islam.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        You seem sincere, but don't have access to unbiased history records.

        "He has his own religion and obviously it is not Islam."

        Only a Muslim or a dupe would say that. Then Islam does not exist. Sunnis say that Shia is not Islam, and Shias say the same about Sunni. Whatever. All Muslims use this phenomenon as a quick takiyya fallback position to deny inconvenient (premature attacks for example) events that expose Islam for its totalitarian colonial imperialist roots. That IS Islam, no matter what variations some sects apply as they go.

      • truthteller

        Ayla, the Turks killed, in fact brutally slaughtered every man, woman and child that even looked Greek….the Turkish Government denies responsibility for EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME. Even now the Turkish government imposes laws forbidding the education of Greek Orthodox Priests in their ancient monastaries. The Turkish people are nothing more than modern barbarians….and you are correct, it doesn't matter if they are Muslim or Hindu or whatever, but the rest of that truth is that you people have killed and continue to murder all people who are not Muslim in Turkey. The brutal murder and torture of the three German missionaries who had their intestines pulled out of their stomachs and nailed to a table in front of them and had their genitals nailed to the table a well while it took a day or more for them to die. in fact two of the three were found alive but later died. What horror do you people not think of ? You should be ashamed to call yourself a Turk!

        • ayla

          Truthteller, where did you learn these craps from? I'm a Turk, and I'm proud of being a Turk. You should be ashamed of yourself, because you are ignorant as well as you are unmannerly! Do you have a Turkish friend? Or, have you ever seen a Turk through all your life? These are all lies, and your lies. You live in a shelf which made of lies. I invite you (the civilized man/woman!) to Turkey to see "modern barbarians". Come and see with your own eyes and understand who barbarians are! But I'm not sure that you can understand because your brain washed by craps!

          • Pete

            You ask every Armenian on the face of this planet how many of their family members were beheaded, raped, gutted, burned alive in 1915, in the Armenian genocide which was ordered by the Ottoman Turks. The answer is 2 million. I had losses in my family, just like every Armenian I know had. If you have the gift of critical thinking, if you refuse to be controlled by your country's propaganda, then you will do a little research into this subject. I understand that children are not responsible for the sins of their parents and grandparents, but each and every person is held responsible for the ideas they voice in public forums. And what is it exactly about Turkey that makes you proud of it? Be honest with yourself, be objective. And if all of this leads you to become disillusioned with your country, it doesn't mean a strike against you as a person. You will, in fact, grow as a person.

          • ayla

            I think you must read books. I'm a PhD student on Political Science and International Relations, and I did my thesis on the events of 1915, and there was nothing like that you mentioned. These are just propagandas. The realities are:
            1. Until the last decade of the 19th century, the Armenian people holded high ranks in Ottoman goverment. Ottomans called them as "millet-i sadıka" (loyal nation).
            2. In last decade of the 19th century the nationalism movement rises in the world. And some fascist Armenian gangs (not all Armenians) started to "raped, gutted, burned alive" and kill their Turkish, Kurdish and Chirkesian neigbours who were Ottoman citizens living in Kars, Erzurum, Sivas and Bitlis and they embowel the pregnant women to take out their unborned babies. We say these events "Ermeni mezalimi" (Armenian Atrocity). (And you remember that the same things executed against the Azeris by Armenians in Hocalı massacre. And from 1970s to 1980s Armenians kill the Turkish diplomats all over the world.) These are just few examples.
            3. In the World War I, the same Armenian Gangs helped the occupant armies and they stab their old friends in the back. They fight against Turks (their "friends") with imperialist forces.
            4. The Ottoman Turks did not give them the taste of their medicine… The government found whoever was responsible these slaughters and did not kill them, just send them away from the battlefields to settled them another Ottoman cities for a temporary while.
            5. The Ottoman government entrain these people and took all precautions against unwanted event. But during the long train travel some of these people died from epidemics, diseases and some of them died in attacks made by some Arabian robber gangs. And during that time, Ottoman was fighting at eight battlefield in World War I and could not help them enough because thousands of Ottoman soldiers were dying in the battlefields, there were no men to fight against these gangs, there were just Ottoman children and women in the cities and they were sharing the same fate (dying from diseases and in attacks by Armenian, and Arabian gangs). Unfortunately too many people died in World War I not just Armenians, and the dead number was about a few thousands but the number is not important. I wish there were no wars and the Armenian gangs did not stab their Turkish friends in the back. But unfortunately these happened.
            You were deceived by imperialists in the past and still you are deceived. The big goal is to divide great and proportionally powerful states to smaller parts, to set some people against other people and to get a big slice of the cake of world economy. Wake up and realise the facts! Do not be deceived by lies of imperialist powers.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "I'm a PhD student on Political Science and International Relations"

            Where?

          • ayla

            Does it matter where I am studying? I wrote all the facts for you objectivefactsmatter. I read 482 books and approximately 1500-1600 article on this issue which were written by Turk, Armenian, Russian, American, English and French authors. I watched the documentaries produced by different nations on this issue. And I write a 352-page PhD thesis. And a genuine brief of the all facts are above. Now, it's your turn and I'm giving you the ball. "Taking it and making a good objective research or leaving it" is fully up to you. Being talking through one's hat is the easiest thing. But the main concern is to make neutral scientific researches and to be objective. We, the Anatolian people, the Turks, are not monsters but the chosen victims of occupants. They were like "cujo" and attacked my country, my home. And they are still doing the same things because the Anatolia is a unique, matchless land in the world. It is jeopolitically, economically, jeostrategically important and resource-rich country. It was and is a hub between the resource-rich Middle East, Africa, Caucasia and Central Asia, too. It is a bridge binding these resource-rich lands to the Europe and Atlantic. The Turkish war of independence was the first and the only successful fight given against imperialism. And the imperialists can not accept these fact yet. The Turks, Anatolian people were and are one of the first and most civilized people in the world. You mentioned "our totalitarian leaders", but you do not know that they are not "our" leaders. They are the imperialism-supported leaders and "as they have come, so they will go". Their goose is cooked.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Does it matter where I am studying? I wrote all the facts for you objectivefactsmatter."

            Bingo. Objective facts don't matter to you because you don't even know what they are. Objectivity is not permitted in Islam.

            Of course it matters so that I can check the source of your alleged facts. You wrote claims with no evidence and no way for me to verify your claims. Now you won't even give any hint of your sources. Dare I guess they are Islamic?

            How did I know that?

            "I read 482 books and approximately 1500-1600 article on this issue which were written by Turk, Armenian, Russian, American, English and French authors. I watched the documentaries produced by different nations on this issue. And I write a 352-page PhD thesis."

            There is no indication whatsoever that you read any objective sources. Even if you did, we then need to move on to your specific claims and where you got THAT evidence. I was asking about your sources not only because I don't your claims, but I also smell a totalitarian worldview that will not tolerate objective investigations.

            You could have simply said where you supposedly got this information, but somehow you are aware that it would lead to a credibility problem. That is what you have now.

            "The Turkish war of independence was the first and the only successful fight given against imperialism"

            This is not clear who you claim the imperialists are. How did the war start in your virtual world?

            "You mentioned "our totalitarian leaders", but you do not know that they are not "our" leaders. They are the imperialism-supported leaders and "as they have come, so they will go". Their goose is cooked."

            It's not clear who specifically you are loyal too. You are sounding more like a Sharia Muslim, or a deceived fool who had to pass through their schools and accepted many of their claims as facts. By the way, many Western liberal authors also reject objectivity because they are free to do so. Finding Western authors who agree with Islamic lies will prove nothing if you have no objective facts to support your claims, which you do not.

          • ayla

            You do not know even what you do not know. You are so much boastful! Do you know why? Because you are utterly ignorant and obsessive. Telling something to an ignorant person is the hardest thing in the world. If you spent your time by reading objective/scientific sources instead of by attacking someone who tell you that all you know is just a lie, you would see that you have nothing but political myths. That's your loss. I made my point. And I would not like to allocate more time for you. Go and do your own research from the English, Russian, American, Armenian, French and Ottoman archives and see who say the truths, you or me!

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "you would see that you have nothing but political myths"

            I know which are myths and which are facts. You're presenting myths as facts and won't reveal your sources.

            "I made my point"

            Your bluff failed.

            "Go and do your own research from the English, Russian, American, Armenian, French and Ottoman archives and see who say the truths, you or me!"

            I deliberately didn't make any specific claims other than that your sources are not validated by objective research. You bluffed and lost.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "These are all lies, and your lies"

            Really? What happens when someone "insults Islam" in Turkey? Do you suppose that those in power are able to use this as a tool to suppress dissent and criticism?

            "But I'm not sure that you can understand because your brain washed by craps!"

            You can't even imagine your leaders in your totalitarian society deceiving you. Does Islam allow you to suck off your president if he says it will advance the cause of Islam? Go ask him and see what he says.

          • ayla

            These words are the most outrageous, impudent words I have ever heard. You should be ashamed of yourself. You just abased yourself in this manner. But this is the most frequent symptom seen when some people do not have something to say, and because of that I understand you. Just like "the best defense is a good offense". This is your weakest point. I feel sorry for you!

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "These words are the most outrageous, impudent words I have ever heard. You should be ashamed of yourself. You just abased yourself in this manner."

            ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz…wake me up when you have a point to make.

            Again,

            >"What happens when someone "insults Islam" in Turkey? Do you suppose that those in power are able to use this as a tool to suppress dissent and criticism?"

            You can't even imagine your leaders in your totalitarian society deceiving you. Islam facilitates abuses of power that shock almost any modern mind, It isn't the only totalitarian ideology today, but it is the most prolific in corrupting minds.

            What you need to do is see if you can find the salient points of a discussion and come up with strong arguments to support your views and claims. You've failed entirely in that regard. Your moral outrage impresses nobody here with the possible exception of a few brain-dead liberals.

          • Mary Sue

            For Your Information: Turkish state propaganda is propaganda. It would be like if Germany were to deny, and continue to this day to deny, that they had slaughtered 6 million Jews, on top of Roma ("Gypsies"), retarded people, and a whole lot of others, in concentration camps.

            The turks of today are not the same that committed the acts in question nearly a century ago. However it does nobody any good to deny when something so obvious happened.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "For Your Information: Turkish state propaganda is propaganda. It would be like if Germany were to deny, and continue to this day to deny, that they had slaughtered 6 million Jews, on top of Roma ("Gypsies"), retarded people, and a whole lot of others, in concentration camps."

            It would be EXACTLY like that, and it is. He talks about research proving something does not exist ("we looked everywhere and couldn't find it") when we have eyewitness testimony from an American ambassador, among others. I can find his name if necessary.

            I have no personal involvement one way or the other, but I hate liars and lies with a passion.

            "The turks of today are not the same that committed the acts in question nearly a century ago. However it does nobody any good to deny when something so obvious happened."

            Absolutely correct. We are not the collectivists. We don't blame them for actions of ancestors, We blame them for being so uncritical of the propaganda that flatters their little fragile egos and religious feelings.

  • Imran

    repeating old accusations which are not proved… Doesn't seem like a noble journalism activity…
    Do you smell it like i do?

    • davarino

      Nope, actually I was thinking islam is more like a virus that is trying to take over the world and kill us all. Time to start inoculating America.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      Important facts must be repeated until lessons are learned and lies are put down.

      "Do you smell it like i do?"

      Yes, I can smell the stench of lies from quite a distance, strongly in your case.

  • zionit

    Educate and subjugate:
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/

    Does anyone know anything about the Al-Noor Charitable Trust who are wanting to begin the above in other parts of the clueless West?

  • pinnie99

    I HAVE BEEN YAPPING FOR 4 YRS ABOUT THIS SLUG…the Clintons let him in…Im not in any way able to evict the SOB but if I was….GONE…every last one of the schools and the man.>Back to Turkey…and take the Clintons,Obamas,Czars and this administration with him! His Mission statement says it all.!

  • Schlomotion

    This panic attack over "Islamist" schools should be weighed against the fact that Yeshiva schools focusing on Talmudic study are claiming poverty and gobbling up 53% of the $84.5 million in Pell grant money given to religious schools in the United States.
    http://m.forward.com/articles/164946/yeshivas-sco

    Let's also not forget that Bill and Hillary Clinton pardoned four New Square Hasidic Jews: Benjamin Berger, Jacob Elbaum, David Goldstein, and Kalmen Stern, who were convicted in 1999 for creating a nonexistent Jewish school to receive $30 million United States dollars in education grants and successfully looted $9 million dollars from the Pell Grant. Two of them fled to Israel.
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2426119/re

    • Larry

      Happy nakba schlocky, now crawl back under your rock with the rest of the slime molds.

    • Curious

      "….The time is not yet right. You must wait for the time when you are complete and conditions are ripe, until we can shoulder the entire world and carry it … You must wait until such time as you have gotten all the state power, until you have brought to your side all the power of the constitutional institutions in Turkey."

      If Jews are swindling the U.S. for $$, what do you suppose Gulen's motive is? When 'you are complete and conditions are ripe' ……..for what? And, why do you suppose the title of this article has to include the word 'stealth'?

    • Mary Sue

      yes, because it's the Yeshivas that are training all the terrorists that will spit on women and disrupt class and demand Sharia and kill all those who do not submit. [/sarcasm] Oh wait…

      • Schlomotion

        I am curious what you think about Affirmative Action, because Yeshivas are using the Pell Grant as Affirmative Action for Jews.

        • Mary Sue

          I don't really care.

      • PaulRevereNow

        A friend of mine told me that a local Yeshiva advertised for a science teacher. But when he applied for the opening, they turned down his application; because they were able to persuade a math teacher to teach both subjects. Apparently, they didn't have the money to hire a new science teacher. And I'm quite certain that this scenario is being repeated many times in Yeshivas all over America.

        • Schlomotion

          I am disappointed. I thought you were starting to tell a joke.

          • PaulRevereNow

            You know….you don't bother me at all.

    • Ghostwriter

      The fallacy in your argument,Schlomotion is that you NEVER go after or criticize Muslims. You only criticize Jews. That's why you're called an anti-semite and a Jew hater. That's what you ARE.

      • Schlomotion

        There are no Muslims here.

        • Lan Astaslem

          just little, feeble-minded you

        • Mary Sue

          yeah right and there's no homosexuals in Iran [/sarcasm]

    • 11bravo

      The Joooooze have the nobel prizes less the body count of the muzloids. I will take the Jews, islam-not so much. Give the Jews ALL the funding for all I care.

    • NAHALKIDES

      Yes, Slow-Mo, those Yeshiva schools are a dangerous threat to National Security – we all know how many Islamic terrorists they produce.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      If Islam was equal to other belief systems, you might have a point, but since it's not, you don't.

      "Let's also not forget…"

      ..that you miss the point every time: It's about rooting out totalitarian enemies, not school funding.

  • Indio Viejo

    We need to take page from our Anti-Communist struggle after WWI in order to inoculate the American people to the satanic cult. Unfortunately the Liberals have made the US impotent.

  • Yephora

    The FBI’s new investigation against Gulen’s organization…

    Look for Eric "Red" Holder to quash this investigation as soon as he becomes aware of it.

    • Mary Sue

      Eric the Red! I love it!

  • Attila The Hun

    The first question to ask is, who's the SOB that let this anti western Islamist into the country?
    Second Why any school board outsources its education system to a foreign entity?
    Third what kind of imbecile parent sends his/her child to a school that;'s ran by an Islamist?
    When you answer those question you will find that America is in a bigger trouble than you think.
    No wonder why some people think America is the 21st century Babylonia.

  • Intrigued

    Interesting….here's another interesting story regarding Turkey…. http://pjmedia.com/blog/stunner-turkey-infiltrati

  • American Native

    We need an administration that actually wants to protect our Nation and not sell us out to these radical groups. The current president has worked hard to achieve his growth of anarchy. AMERICANS STOP SLEEPING TAKE BACK OUR GOVERNMENT! I AM NOT PARTIAL TO LIVING THE LIFE OF ISLAM.

  • Mary Sue

    in other words, they'll retreat into their usual hypocrisy. Figures.

  • notme

    Personal anecdote: My kids went to a Gulen charter school for elementary education. I knew nothing about Gulen at the time. It was a good school as far as academics and dedicated teaching. There was one incident that troubled me. Without apparent context, a teacher brought in – I believe it was – Time Magazine with a cover that said Israel was not concerned about peace with the Palestinians, showed it and discussed with a class of third graders. This was not a subject they were studying; nor did they apparently have anything to do with any aspects concerning a subject they were studying. So, why was it brought? The teacher, I believe, was a white, U.S. citizen of European origin. After that, I periodically quizzed my kids about subjects being taught, but nothing else that I am aware of that might have caused me concern ever occurred. This could have just been a random, unrelated happenstance, or inclinations stemming from a hyper lefty teacher trying to provide subtle influence to children, or most nefariously a concerted, hyper subtle effort to influence as directed by the school. I was willing to ease my natural cynicism a bit, since I generally liked the school, and provide a benefit of the doubt that it was just happenstance, but I kept more of an eye on what was being taught going forward.

    • Glennd1

      Omigod, you mean a teacher actually said something critical about Israel? How could they dare?

      • MacDaddy31

        Hey bozo – context, man. Get it. Out of the blue to third graders.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          Context ruins all of their arguments. They must manipulate context to have any chance anyone will hear them.

      • Mary Sue

        do you think it was acceptable for a teacher, Jim Keegstra by name, to preach the theory of the evil j00ish bankers to children in his class?

      • Glennd1

        Backing the immoral Zionist invasion of Palestine, and subsequent ethnic cleansing has its own context as well. Perhaps they should just show the Jewish population of Palestine in 1895- 25k – and then in '47 – over 500k. Or Begin's own memoir and IDF archives which clearly document many atrocities against the 650,000 Muslim Arabs the Zionists forced from their homes in Palestine. Maybe we should point out that the Zionist experiment could never succeed without driving out hundreds of thousands of Arab Muslims? That this was discussed for decades before '47, and that the international community was deeply concerned that the militant Zionists would indeed seek to "transfer" large numbers of Arab Muslims from their Jewish state? Or that the Balfour Declaration, the British Mandate for Palestine and the U.N. resolution partitioning the Palestinian territory all forbade the Zionists from removing any of the indigenous people in the territory from their homes?

        Funny how none of this is taught anywhere in American shools – 3rd grade or not – despite the indisputable truth of all the statements I made above. And for the record, I'm anti-Islamist as well, I loathe them and have no interest in backing them in any way or seeing the U.S. govt do so, so please, don't bother calling me a Muslim sympathizer. I'm an American sympathizer, I'm a truth sympathizer – and the truth is that Zionism was an immoral cause that the U.S. should never have supported from the start. It was always going to end the way it has. You folks realize that the people living in the region will wipe out Israel the moment they can, yes? There is no moderation coming, only more unity and more military power in the wrong hands. Thay haven't softened their opposition for 60 years, why do any of you think they are ever going to stop? In fact, the opposition is gaining strength, Israel is losing its struggle. Zionism is unsustainable for Jews and destroyed the natural sympathy much of the world had for Jews after WWII (rightly so). Many Jews agree with me too, so don't dare call me an anti-Semite. I'm actually a little bit of a Jew lover if the truth is told, given the women I've dated and the the friends I keep close.

        Let them fight it out in the desert, why should it matter to Americans at all? Offer Jews asylum here, that's the right thing to do and it would be great for America. You see, that's all I care about. America. We fought like hell to create a safe society that we can protect – and we can only really do so within our national boundaries. We put our long term internal security at risk with all these ineffective interventions. We cannot stop history, we need to wake up and realize that the world is as it is (a distinctly conservative idea), not as we wish it to be.

        Just sayin'…
        P.S. – Just read this over and realized how likely I am to be called an anti-Semite, lol. Here's an open letter from Albert Einstein and dozens of other prominent U.S. Jews to the New York Times from November of '48, comparing the Zionists at work in Palestine to Nazis. http://rense.com/general59/ein.htm I'm not saying that – Albert Einstein did – while people were still recovering from the death camps. So don't dare tell me that it's somehow anti-Semitic to criticize Zionism and its sins. When you folks do that, you are being just like the Islamists who want to outlaw criticism of Islam.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "Backing the immoral Zionist invasion of Palestine, and subsequent ethnic cleansing has its own context as well."

          One has to lie to support false theories. Lies have no place in any schools.

          "Perhaps they should just show the Jewish population of Palestine in 1895- 25k – and then in '47 – over 500k."

          Oh my, keep looking for statistics that seem to support your false theories.

          "Here's an open letter"

          So you're in to context when you can misuse it. Noted.

  • riverboatbill

    Fifth columnist terrorist training camps.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      Precisely. Nothing less than that.

  • jacob

    Also see a huge article with a lot of background here http://www.city-journal.org/2012/22_4_fethullah-g

  • Schlomotion

    I agree.

  • watsa46

    Without the support from some in the the US Gvt this would not be possible! Both Rep and Dem are guilty.

  • Questions

    I'm pretty consistent across the board when it comes to religious "school choice" programs. I oppose public funding for religious schools of any type. It's not up to a particular religion to start a school and stick taxpayers with the bills. Let parents pay the bills.

  • Liberty1789

    It is ashame that Mr. Ahlert did give credit where credit is due in the exposure of the Gulen activities. Dr. Paul L. Williams was on this issue years and years ago, yet no mention…

  • truthteller

    This is truly important for American citizens to know. What goes on in our government that keeps the system from working and allowing this to go on here while we send our sons to defend the country in other lands?

  • Ann Herzer

    Not only are the Gulen Schools questionable, but in my opinion, all charter schools should be ubvestugated for vested interest profit at the expense of the taxpayer. I wrote an article in 1994 that may be republished regarding many questions about charter schools. The charter school bill in Arizona, proposed in 1993, attempts to place individuals involved in the schools above the law. Waivers of rules, regulations and apparently laws were started under Goals 2000. The Arizona proposed bill stated: "To 'immune from civil and criminal liability with respect to all activities related to the operation of the Charter School'." This is a comprehensive statement. Has this actually happened in all states? (S.1200). School boards have been replaced with appointed councils, mayors, universities etc. Representative, constitutional government at the local level is now almost null and void.

  • Ann Herzer

    typo error correct …investigated

  • A Parent

    I think the purpose of the people who are labeling successful charter schools as Gulen Charter Schools is to defame Fethullah Gulen and successful charter schools. As it was mentioned on CBS's 60 Minutes that nationwide Newsweek Magazine listed some of those two successful charter schools as miracle schools of the nation. They're combining those schools as Gulen Charter Schools, because they're successful. Those people who are actually against good and goodness picking Fethullah Gulen's name as a person to mention with those successful charter schools. Whoever they are, they don't like Fethullah Gulen because of his teachings and positive contribution to humanity in 21st century. In the other hand Turkish oriented people are not the only people operating charter schools. Why are those people picking only charter schools operated by Turkish origin professionals?
    http://so-calledgulencharterschools.blogspot.com/
    http://gulenschools.org/
    http://fethullahgulenhizmetmovement.blogspot.com/
    http://gulen4universalpeace.blogspot.com/

  • eja22

    What I donot understand is how the USA let him stay in the country for so long? do you think the governments till 1998 did not know about Gulen? who lets him stay in the USA and lets him buy the land, etc?

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