Catholics vs. Obama


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On Monday, 43 Roman Catholic organizations filed lawsuits in a dozen different federal courts, challenging the Obama administration’s mandate requiring insurance coverage for “preventive health services” inimical to their faith. The litigation represents the latest stage of a battle that began January 20th, when the administration announced that the implementation of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act would require Catholic institutions and individual Catholic employers to provide contraception, sterilization and abortifacient drugs to all of their employees. The Treasury, Labor, and Health and Human Services Departments are being sued by Jones Day, a law firm representing all the plaintiffs pro bono. “We have tried negotiations with the administration and legislation with the Congress — and we’ll keep at it — but there’s still no fix,” said Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan in a statement.

Cardinal Dolan further illuminated the Church’s position on “CBS This Morning” yesterday. “They tell us if you’re really going be considered a church, if you’re going to be really exempt from these demands of the government, well, you have to propagate your Catholic faith and everything you do, you can serve only Catholics and employ only Catholics,” Dolan said. ”We’re like, wait a minute, when did the government get in the business of defining for us the extent of our ministry?”

Perhaps the best answer to that question would be Friday, February 10th, when the administration claimed they would “accommodate” Catholic concerns with a “compromise,” whereby insurance providers would provide coverage for the disputed services. It was initially well received by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, who called it “a first step in the right direction.” Twenty-four hours later the compromise was rejected. “In the case where the employee and insurer agree to add the objectionable coverage, that coverage is still provided as a part of the objecting employer’s plan, financed in the same way as the rest of the coverage offered by the objecting employer. This, too, raises serious moral concerns,” the Bishops decided.

At that juncture, the administration managed to peel away some of the more left-leaning Catholic organizations, such as Catholic Charities, the Catholic Health Association, which represents Catholic hospitals across the country, as well as individual Catholic Democrats and other liberals who applauded the ostensible compromise. James Salt, executive director of Catholics United, a liberal advocacy group aligned with the administration, castigated the bishops, whose “blanket opposition appears to serve the interests of a political agenda, not the needs of the American people.” Apparently for Mr. Salt and other like-minded thinkers, it is Catholics who have a political agenda, not a federal government that mandates that they violate their religious beliefs.

During the next phase of the battle, a hopelessly compromised mainstream media not only took the Obama administration’s side on the issue, but amplified it into a “war on women.” A Washington Post column by Sally Quinn claimed “Jesus would be rolling over in his grave if he hadn’t already left it,” because Vatican bishops issued a report critical of nuns who aligned themselves with President Obama on the issue of birth control mandates. The New York Times’ Maureen Dowd was equally apoplectic. “It has become a habit for the church to go after women,” she wrote, further noting that church leadership “never recoiled in horror from pedophilia, yet it recoils in horror from outspoken nuns.” OpEdNews columnist Gregory Paul contended that “the Catholic patriarchy is engaged in a global conspiracy to deny women their reproductive rights.”

The common thread? Like so many progressives, these three and countless others believe the Church should accommodate a “more enlightened” (read progressive) ideology, even where that ideology is utterly antithetical to Catholic tenets. For genuine Catholics, that kind of reasoning is exactly backwards. Yet it is precisely this same backward reasoning that animates an Obama administration willing to “negotiate” its way around that part of the First Amendment that doesn’t fully “accommodate” ObamaCare.

Soon after that, the Catholic war on women became the Republican war on women. A Georgetown law student named Sandra Fluke got her 15 minutes of fame bemoaning the fact that the Catholic university didn’t provide her and her classmates with free birth control, further arguing that free contraceptives were “a natural human right.” Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius accused Republicans of wanting to “roll back the last 50 years in progress women have made in comprehensive health care in America.” Former House speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) trolled for campaign donations to counter Republicans’ “unprecedented assault on women’s rights.”

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  • H&R_ Barack

    We are all catholic against Obama.

  • truebearing

    Good for you, Catholics. Make Obama fight you and alienate more people. One thing the Left can't win is an open debate.

    As for this "War on Women" crap, the Left supports, defends, and enables radical Islam. Islam is the quintessential war on women, and it is world wide. Therefore, Obama and the Left are facilitating a World War on Women.*

    *To all Catholics out there engaged in this fight, or anyone else for that matter, please use the "World War on Women" charge against the Left as often as possible. They hate getting trumped, especially when it is demonstrably true. Do a little Alinsky to the Left.

    • sedoanman

      Historian Dr. Thomas Woods has come up with a unique and humorous approach at countering liberal/Leftist charges of "Nazi", "racist", "homophobe", sexist, etc. that all conservatives eventually encounter whenever debating the issues with them: point at them and say, "Zombie!" http://www.tomwoods.com/blog/interview-with-a-zom….

    • WildJew

      Weren't the Bishops in bed with Obama and Pelosi on Obamacare? Don't they believe in social justice? Obama believes in social justice and spreading the wealth. Doesn't Pope Benedict embrace this sort of social justice? Didn't the Bishops sharply attack Congressman Paul Ryan (a fellow Catholic) for his economic reforms?

  • H&R_ Barack

    cath·o·lic 
    adjective
    1. broad or wide-ranging in tastes, interests, or the like; having sympathies with all; broad-minded; liberal.
    2. universal in extent; involving all; of interest to all.
    3. pertaining to the whole Christian body or church.

    We are all catholic against Obama.

    • WildJew

      I ask you from above: Weren't the Bishops in bed with Obama and Pelosi on Obamacare? Don't they believe in social justice? Obama believes in social justice and spreading the wealth. Doesn't Pope Benedict embrace this sort of social justice? Didn't the Bishops sharply attack Congressman Paul Ryan (a fellow Catholic) for his economic / fiscal reforms?

      • H&R_ Barack

        The word I used was "catholic" with a lower case "c" – - "catholic" not Roman Catholic. They have entirely different definitions. From around the third century to the mid-1500's the word catholic refered to the entire universal church, and not a seperate sect or denomination as it is commonly used today.

        Some confusion in the correct use of the term today is inevitable. I am not Roman Catholic. I am an Evangelical.

        — adj
        1. universal; relating to all men; all-inclusive

        My post was a twist on the etymology of "catholic."

  • pierce

    I am afraid that midst all of this dialogue we, rather I, have come to the conclusion that President Obama thinks that he is GOD.

    • kafir4life

      BO is just Stinky……not God.

    • fiddler

      Rather astute.

    • Texan

      what took you so long?

    • guest

      He not only thinks it, he believes it. When you have an Islamic leader here in the U.S. calling Obama " the messiah" how else could he not consider himself, GOD.

  • oldtimer

    It's not just Catholics against this provision. There already are programs for free contraceptives(paid for by the tax payers). And if you don't want to use those programs, the items needed are not expensive. I am not Catholic but I don't believe in abortion and I don't feel I should have to pay for someone who doesn't use contraception to prevent an unwanted pregnancy. These programs have been available since at least the 70's, and still the abortions continue, so it's obvious that not everyone wants to use contraceptives. My insurance premiums went up 81% when Obamacare's first rules went into effect, what will happen when the next phase starts, especially if this is included. Obama say you can keep your insurance and doctors, but can you really? Can you afford such premiums?

  • Anthony

    The article lauds one of our greatest freedoms as the right to freely practice one’s religion without government interference. But both Marxists and Moslems, who for the moment are busy tag teaming America’s freedoms to smithereens, are using various constitionally guaranteed freedoms to build a terrible new America.

    Our freedom of religion hato add it impossible to control the Islamization of America. Fouls the founding fathers, indeed, would the founding fathers have allowed Islam to be imported to America? Their world view in their time was such that various forms of Christianity were primarily their concern, not an alien ideology such as Islam , for which America was already fighting against in Tripoli.

    Freedom of religion as including a religion hostile to the host nation an alien to it common Judeo-Christian heritage is likely not what our founding fathers would have accepted.

    Persecution of the Church is part of the Marxist strategy of creating Valhalla on Earth. These snakes are using Moslems now because they want to destroy traditional America first, then worry about the Moslems later. But this strategy will backfire as it did in the former Soviet republics that for a time were ruled by Communism.

    • topeka

      Anthony,

      great post!

      The establishment of the Left's godless-political religion sows the seeds of the end of the West. True, Islamofascism will roll over the religion of secularism or whatever one wants to call it, but only after destroying the "host" of Western Civilization.

  • jacob

    Are people aware of how asinine to say the least, is this pretense of saddling the taxpayer and now the
    Church with footing contraceptives for employees or regular people ???

    I'm actually for castrating those irresponsible men who father children like bulls do calves but I guess
    this should be disliked by the "minority" among this situation is most prevalent….

    I believe WE THE PEOPLE must put a stop to this "administration" "socialist" aspirations and force the
    parasites we sent to CONGRESS to act in a proper way or be assured they will get the boot come next
    election…

    Is it going to happen or people would be too sorry to take action ????

    • fiddler

      I can't say if often enough or loudly enough:

      TERM LIMITS
      TERM LIMITS
      TERM LIMITS

      Retire the old fossils. No more Teddy 'Chappaquiddic" Kennedys, Harry Reids and the like.

  • Ain't No Dhimmi

    Be sure that when the subject comes up in regard to Islam
    all the hard work that the Catholics have done
    will be used to further Islam.
    Satan is clever.

    • oldtimer

      Islam doesn't believe in insurance so Obama already made sure they were exempt, however, guess who will pay when they need hospital care and doctors….

    • fmobler

      Moslems don't have the same problem as Catholics and other Christians. We Christians believe we have a duty to minister to anyone in need (though we often fail at it). So a christian organization has a hard time putting up artificial firewalls between ministry to the faithful and charity to others. Islam has no such problem because "charity" is meant only for Moslems. The only obligation to the infidel is to convert him, fight him to submission or have a temporary truce with him. So Moslem "charity" groups can easily comply with the new rules.

      By the way, have faith. Satan only thinks he is clever.

  • StephenD

    My concern is the Administration will make an exception for "religious beliefs" and the Catholic Church will be satisfied and come out in favor of the balance of Obama-care. I think this is a distraction. The fight…for ALL of us is on the issue of being forced to buy a product simply because you draw breath. THIS is our fight. The religious issue, as important as it may be for many, can be accommodated…then what? I say we should keep the focus on the real issue. The Government FORCING YOU to pay for something whether you want it or not.

    • topeka

      Stephen,

      Are you thinking another Catholic – Leftist Concordat? …

      Just enough complicity to be guilty while protecting/saving nothing and no one?

      yeah, it's a worry. And I would not be surprised. Hopefully, G-d won't let them get away with it again.

  • Phillip Ley

    Interesting that Maureen Dowd, Nancy Pelosi, and their ilk are in an uproar over this but are also critical of the anti-sharia movement……

  • Bartimaeus

    Initially many people fled Europe for America in pursuing religious freedom. This freedom of religion was one of the founding principles. At this stage of our history, when the constitution and the bill of rights is more and more under attack, the power of the left and Islam is growing. The left would impose secularism on everyone if they could and Islam would impose Sharia. Either way, the first amendment is under attack. How long do we have to turn the tide or can we at this point? “If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?” Psalm 11:3. How many politicians of our day understand what is really happening?

  • crypticguise

    It is really time that the Catholic Church, practicing Catholics and all people of faith begin kicking the a** of the Socialist-Marxist demogogues in control of our present Administration. Liberal, Progressive, Socialist, Communist, Marxist, Fascists thinking wants to DESTROY our Constitution and the inalienable Rights given to us by our Creator.

    The government DOES NOT give us our Right to Religious Freedom or any right expressed, implied or other not specifically enumerated as a government responsibility…. Thes people have to be DESTROYED POLITICALLY or we are going to have another American Revolution and it will not be peaceful.

  • TESSIETOM

    WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WAS ATTACKED BY THE US GOVERNMENT?
    NEVER. I HOPE THAT WITH ALL THE TAXES OBAMA IS RAISING HE DOESN'T ADD A JIZA TAX ON JESUS.
    THE NEXT TIME REVEREND WRIGHT HAS AN OPEN HOUSE SHOWING OF HIS 5 MILLION DOLLAR HOME ON LAKE MICHIGAN ASK HIM TO SHOW YOU AMERICA'S CHICKEN ROOM. OR THE GOD DAMM THE USA FOYER. THE AMERICAN CREED USED TO BE THE STRONG MUST PROTECT THE WEAK. TODAY POLITICIANS TELL YOU CHILD MURDER IS SETTLED LAW. WHICH LAW? THE NURENBERG LAW OF 1938. CARDINAL DOLAN AND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH FOLLOW GOD'S LAW AND THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE. LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PERSUIT OF HAPPINESS.USUALLY BABIES FIRST WORDS IF YOU DON'T TEAR HER HEAD OFF IS MOMMA. 70% OF WOMEN WHO SEE SONAGRAMS CANCEL ABORTIONS. ONE SIDE AFFECT OF ABORTION IS WEEPING SYNDROME. I CALL IT LIQUID CONSCIENCE.
    YOU CAN'T MURDER A CHILD AND NOT FEEL SOMETHING. TO THE MALE WHO CONTRIBUTED TO THE PROBLEM BRING HIM WITH YOU AND ASK THE DOCTOR TO ABORT HIS HEART IF HE HAS ONE.IN CHUCK SCHUMERS CASE ABORT THE LIVER. <a href="http://WWW.MEDIACRAPMATTERS.US” target=”_blank”>WWW.MEDIACRAPMATTERS.US <a href="http://WWW.SPIRITOFAMERICAPARTYRADIOSHOW.COM” target=”_blank”> <a href="http://WWW.SPIRITOFAMERICAPARTYRADIOSHOW.COM” target=”_blank”>WWW.SPIRITOFAMERICAPARTYRADIOSHOW.COM

  • Marvin E. Fox

    I am glad the Catholic Bishops and Cardinals are finally addressing the problem of religious freedom in our Republic. Their cause is just and their voices are strong. I hope catholics, especially we laymen, will discover how important our Constitution is to freedom in this Republic and freedom for people in many other countries. Freedom is teetering world wide. If this nation loses its freedom, the probablility is that many others will lose their freedom. If I could give a message to catholics it would be this.
    The definition of our Republic is its Constitution, all other definitions are false or incomplete.
    This Republic was promised to its people to be "One Nation Under God." That was a promise made by only one nation on this planet. It was made prayerfully by Christian men and accepted by God. God has blessed American. God will bless America again.
    Marvin E. Fox

  • BS77

    Support VOTER ID legislation. I need to show a valid photo ID to buy alcohol, to board a plane, to rent a car, to make many purchases…..why not show a valid ID to vote?

  • Malcolm

    I would like to make a suggestion which may sound really, really radical. If the Government believes that contraception, abortion and the like should be provided free or at low cost, why doesn't the Government itself provide them, rather than force a third party ie employers to provide them? After all, it is not as if they will not have to do something similar for those who are not employed, or are retired.
    Whoever heard of co-opting a third party to do the Government's work?

    • Oleg

      Well if the government is paying for such things then they are forcing a third party to pay for them, namely the taxpayer. If all of these abortionists, feminazis, Planned Parenthood, and so on, think contraception is a right then they should offer such services on their own dime not the taxpayer. This is a ridiculous as university professors protesting for free tuition, if they believe higher education should be free then they should give up their cushy six figure salaries and work for nothing but food and lodging.

  • frank

    The irony is catholics vote largely for democrats. Once this issue gets ironed out in their favor they will still continue to vote democrat in spite of the hostility from democrats, and democrats support for abortion. You cannot call yourself pro-life and continue to vote for pro-choice politicians.

    • topeka

      frank,

      nationwide, I think Catholics went 54% for the "O" – much of this from the Yankee drones.

      but —

      I would not be so sure there is such a correlation between Sunday go to Communion Catholics and Democrats; even those flocks with Lefty clergy. Many "Catholics" are only ethnic Catholics and only darken a Church door when they visit granny.