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		<title>By: Jerome Cassidy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jerome Cassidy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 04:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You do have a point there. The world wouldn&#039;t be dancing to Gangnam Style if the North overwhelmed the South all those decades ago. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do have a point there. The world wouldn&#039;t be dancing to Gangnam Style if the North overwhelmed the South all those decades ago. </p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guest]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 05:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You make some interesting points. I agreed with you when you started out but in following posts I&#039;ve noticed a few contradictions in your argument. Just to clarify, I am putting these more as constructive criticism than anything else. 
 
In the post I am replying to, you wrote, &quot;Nobody denied your right to testify.&quot;  However, in an earlier post, you said, &quot;Your testimony is not all that significant as of course you&#039;ll testify for the position you took.&quot; I&#039;m a little confused. Are you saying he has the right to testify, but not the right to be listened to? In addition, aren&#039;t all arguments based on the position of the arguer? How would debating from a different point of view devalue his points? 
 
Another part of your argument went as follows: 
&quot;&#039;I feel you aren&#039;t very interested in the truth about the lyrics or about Koreans, only about &quot;winning&quot; a debate -- including by changing the subject. &#039;  
 
Well considering the timing of your replies, I&#039;d say you&#039;re not doing a very good job at tracking the conversation. Good luck with that in the future. You don&#039;t seem like a complete fool, you just don&#039;t know you&#039;ve been indoctrinated.&quot; 
 
There is irony in this. His point was that your goal was to win the argument, and that you would change the subject to achieve this goal. And you responded to this by changing the subject to his ability to respond. Never let a zinger like that go unchallenged. 
 
Another phrase I would like to point out is &quot;But if you talk like one, you must think like one. Therefore, we can accurately call you liberal.&quot; This statement isn&#039;t necessarily true. For example, some of the ideals of the Westboro Baptist Church coincide with that of the Nazi party, but they certainly can&#039;t be called Nazis. I understand that you are calling him a liberal in the context of the situation, but that does not apply. Calling his ideas liberal would be more appropriate, and would generate a less hateful, emotional response. 
 
One last thing, make sure you use the correct form of their, they&#039;re, and there (&quot;Their just too ignorant to know this.&quot; -From one of your early posts). You probably already know this, but the correct grammar would be &quot;they are too ignorant,&quot; necessitating the use of &quot;they&#039;re.&quot; This is one of the grammar issues that are widely known and frowned down upon; using the incorrect word, even by a typo, alienates more readers than might be supposed. 
 
I am not pointing these out to belittle your argument, I&#039;m just trying to help your rhetoric. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make some interesting points. I agreed with you when you started out but in following posts I&#039;ve noticed a few contradictions in your argument. Just to clarify, I am putting these more as constructive criticism than anything else. </p>
<p>In the post I am replying to, you wrote, &quot;Nobody denied your right to testify.&quot;  However, in an earlier post, you said, &quot;Your testimony is not all that significant as of course you&#039;ll testify for the position you took.&quot; I&#039;m a little confused. Are you saying he has the right to testify, but not the right to be listened to? In addition, aren&#039;t all arguments based on the position of the arguer? How would debating from a different point of view devalue his points? </p>
<p>Another part of your argument went as follows:<br />
&quot;&#039;I feel you aren&#039;t very interested in the truth about the lyrics or about Koreans, only about &quot;winning&quot; a debate &#8212; including by changing the subject. &#039;  </p>
<p>Well considering the timing of your replies, I&#039;d say you&#039;re not doing a very good job at tracking the conversation. Good luck with that in the future. You don&#039;t seem like a complete fool, you just don&#039;t know you&#039;ve been indoctrinated.&quot; </p>
<p>There is irony in this. His point was that your goal was to win the argument, and that you would change the subject to achieve this goal. And you responded to this by changing the subject to his ability to respond. Never let a zinger like that go unchallenged. </p>
<p>Another phrase I would like to point out is &quot;But if you talk like one, you must think like one. Therefore, we can accurately call you liberal.&quot; This statement isn&#039;t necessarily true. For example, some of the ideals of the Westboro Baptist Church coincide with that of the Nazi party, but they certainly can&#039;t be called Nazis. I understand that you are calling him a liberal in the context of the situation, but that does not apply. Calling his ideas liberal would be more appropriate, and would generate a less hateful, emotional response. </p>
<p>One last thing, make sure you use the correct form of their, they&#039;re, and there (&quot;Their just too ignorant to know this.&quot; -From one of your early posts). You probably already know this, but the correct grammar would be &quot;they are too ignorant,&quot; necessitating the use of &quot;they&#039;re.&quot; This is one of the grammar issues that are widely known and frowned down upon; using the incorrect word, even by a typo, alienates more readers than might be supposed. </p>
<p>I am not pointing these out to belittle your argument, I&#039;m just trying to help your rhetoric. </p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 05:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You make some interesting points. I agreed with you when you started out but in following posts I&#039;ve noticed a few contradictions in your argument. Just to clarify, I am putting these more as constructive criticism than anything else. 
 
In the post I am replying to, you wrote, &quot;Nobody denied your right to testify.&quot;  However, in an earlier post, you said, &quot;Your testimony is not all that significant as of course you&#039;ll testify for the position you took.&quot; I&#039;m a little confused. Are you saying he has the right to testify, but not the right to be listened to? In addition, aren&#039;t all arguments based on the position of the arguer? How would debating from a different point of view devalue his points? 
 
Another part of your argument went as follows: 
&quot;&#039;I feel you aren&#039;t very interested in the truth about the lyrics or about Koreans, only about &quot;winning&quot; a debate -- including by changing the subject. &#039;  
 
Well considering the timing of your replies, I&#039;d say you&#039;re not doing a very good job at tracking the conversation. Good luck with that in the future. You don&#039;t seem like a complete fool, you just don&#039;t know you&#039;ve been indoctrinated.&quot; 
 
There is irony in this. His point was that your goal was to win the argument, and that you would change the subject to achieve this goal. And you responded to this by changing the subject to his ability to respond. Never let a zinger like that go unchallenged. 
 
Another phrase I would like to point out is &quot;But if you talk like one, you must think like one. Therefore, we can accurately call you liberal.&quot; This statement isn&#039;t necessarily true. For example, some of the ideals of the Westboro Baptist Church coincide with that of the Nazi party, but they certainly can&#039;t be called Nazis. I understand that you are calling him a liberal in the context of the situation, but that does not apply. Calling his ideas liberal would be more appropriate, and would generate a less hateful, emotional response. 
 
One last thing, make sure you use the correct form of their, they&#039;re, and there (&quot;Their just too ignorant to know this.&quot; -From one of your early posts). You probably already know this, but the correct grammar would be &quot;they are too ignorant,&quot; necessitating the use of &quot;they&#039;re.&quot; This is one of the grammar issues that are widely known and frowned down upon; using the incorrect word, even by a typo, alienates more readers than might be supposed. 
 
I am not pointing these out to belittle your argument, I&#039;m just trying to help your rhetoric. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make some interesting points. I agreed with you when you started out but in following posts I&#039;ve noticed a few contradictions in your argument. Just to clarify, I am putting these more as constructive criticism than anything else. </p>
<p>In the post I am replying to, you wrote, &quot;Nobody denied your right to testify.&quot;  However, in an earlier post, you said, &quot;Your testimony is not all that significant as of course you&#039;ll testify for the position you took.&quot; I&#039;m a little confused. Are you saying he has the right to testify, but not the right to be listened to? In addition, aren&#039;t all arguments based on the position of the arguer? How would debating from a different point of view devalue his points? </p>
<p>Another part of your argument went as follows:<br />
&quot;&#039;I feel you aren&#039;t very interested in the truth about the lyrics or about Koreans, only about &quot;winning&quot; a debate &#8212; including by changing the subject. &#039;  </p>
<p>Well considering the timing of your replies, I&#039;d say you&#039;re not doing a very good job at tracking the conversation. Good luck with that in the future. You don&#039;t seem like a complete fool, you just don&#039;t know you&#039;ve been indoctrinated.&quot; </p>
<p>There is irony in this. His point was that your goal was to win the argument, and that you would change the subject to achieve this goal. And you responded to this by changing the subject to his ability to respond. Never let a zinger like that go unchallenged. </p>
<p>Another phrase I would like to point out is &quot;But if you talk like one, you must think like one. Therefore, we can accurately call you liberal.&quot; This statement isn&#039;t necessarily true. For example, some of the ideals of the Westboro Baptist Church coincide with that of the Nazi party, but they certainly can&#039;t be called Nazis. I understand that you are calling him a liberal in the context of the situation, but that does not apply. Calling his ideas liberal would be more appropriate, and would generate a less hateful, emotional response. </p>
<p>One last thing, make sure you use the correct form of their, they&#039;re, and there (&quot;Their just too ignorant to know this.&quot; -From one of your early posts). You probably already know this, but the correct grammar would be &quot;they are too ignorant,&quot; necessitating the use of &quot;they&#039;re.&quot; This is one of the grammar issues that are widely known and frowned down upon; using the incorrect word, even by a typo, alienates more readers than might be supposed. </p>
<p>I am not pointing these out to belittle your argument, I&#039;m just trying to help your rhetoric. </p>
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		<title>By: Face the facts</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Face the facts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 16:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well next time the need help we might as well sit back and watch. If we keep risking our lives for the other counties that want nothing to do with us we&#039;re just hurting ourselves. Its sad to think that soooo many Americans died for the mans family and he doesnt have enough sense to think about. Year after year the US helps any country they can no matter what, we do what ever we can to try and substane as much peace as possible and look, its like the children coming back and biting the hand that feeds them. It doesnt matter if he ever apoligizes because things like that are never missed or forgotten. We will always remember the people we tried to help, even if the do decieve us. An apology will NEVER be enough, and someday he will be punished by God for being so ungrateful towards the saviours of his country. Remember that. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well next time the need help we might as well sit back and watch. If we keep risking our lives for the other counties that want nothing to do with us we&#039;re just hurting ourselves. Its sad to think that soooo many Americans died for the mans family and he doesnt have enough sense to think about. Year after year the US helps any country they can no matter what, we do what ever we can to try and substane as much peace as possible and look, its like the children coming back and biting the hand that feeds them. It doesnt matter if he ever apoligizes because things like that are never missed or forgotten. We will always remember the people we tried to help, even if the do decieve us. An apology will NEVER be enough, and someday he will be punished by God for being so ungrateful towards the saviours of his country. Remember that. </p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guest]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 20:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sometimes it&#039;s helpful to look at political issues as if they involved just people and you can see beyond the issues, human nature, which is not always nice.  Let&#039;s say a husand and wife take their two beloved sons, North and South, to a swimming pool.  Neither the mother nor father can swim.  That&#039;s Korea, worn down by foreign domination for almost a hundred years at the time of the Korean War.  Nor is there a lifeguard at the pool, because God stays in heaven.  A bully, the Communists, throws North and South in the pool.  Another person at the pool, the U.S., dives into the water.  But for whatever reason, he is exhausted trying to save both boys and lets North go to save South.  Will the reaction of the parents be one of unalloyed joy?  No.  In fact, if they blame themselves, they may blame the rescuer the more.  If only he had not done this or that or been different in some way.  Only time will heal this wound. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes it&#039;s helpful to look at political issues as if they involved just people and you can see beyond the issues, human nature, which is not always nice.  Let&#039;s say a husand and wife take their two beloved sons, North and South, to a swimming pool.  Neither the mother nor father can swim.  That&#039;s Korea, worn down by foreign domination for almost a hundred years at the time of the Korean War.  Nor is there a lifeguard at the pool, because God stays in heaven.  A bully, the Communists, throws North and South in the pool.  Another person at the pool, the U.S., dives into the water.  But for whatever reason, he is exhausted trying to save both boys and lets North go to save South.  Will the reaction of the parents be one of unalloyed joy?  No.  In fact, if they blame themselves, they may blame the rescuer the more.  If only he had not done this or that or been different in some way.  Only time will heal this wound. </p>
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		<title>By: Why?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Why?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 19:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What I love is how the &quot;guest&quot; above simply asserted his points--sans any form of support or backup or............anything at all. 
 
And this--and of course the seemingly required vulgerism--is what passes for &quot;thought&quot; on the Left. 
 
Why bother to even post at all if that is the sum total of your contribution? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I love is how the &quot;guest&quot; above simply asserted his points&#8211;sans any form of support or backup or&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;anything at all. </p>
<p>And this&#8211;and of course the seemingly required vulgerism&#8211;is what passes for &quot;thought&quot; on the Left. </p>
<p>Why bother to even post at all if that is the sum total of your contribution? </p>
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		<title>By: Johnconrad</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Johnconrad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is truly funny. 
 
&quot;We cannot possibly know what would have happened in South Korea&quot; 
 
Amazing logic. 
 
Likely the same person that ripped me for predicting the &quot;Islamic Republic of Egypt&quot; would be the result of Barack&#039;s fetid &quot;Arab Spring&quot; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is truly funny. </p>
<p>&quot;We cannot possibly know what would have happened in South Korea&quot; </p>
<p>Amazing logic. </p>
<p>Likely the same person that ripped me for predicting the &quot;Islamic Republic of Egypt&quot; would be the result of Barack&#039;s fetid &quot;Arab Spring&quot; </p>
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		<title>By: BS77</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BS77]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Go back to elementary school Kathy.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go back to elementary school Kathy.   </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understood you were Canadian. But that was not the salient point.  
  
&quot;Pretending somebody said something they didn&#039;t say is not actually standing up for America, by the way.&quot;  
  
Yes, because THAT&#039;s what we want. You&#039;re the only one who knows the truth, you and the liberals (while we know you&#039;re not liberal, of course). ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understood you were Canadian. But that was not the salient point.  </p>
<p>&quot;Pretending somebody said something they didn&#039;t say is not actually standing up for America, by the way.&quot;  </p>
<p>Yes, because THAT&#039;s what we want. You&#039;re the only one who knows the truth, you and the liberals (while we know you&#039;re not liberal, of course). </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It is complicated, but I&#039;m reasonably confident in my translation.&quot; 
 
 
Good. My comments came from your translation. Also note that here: 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://fox2now.com/2012/12/10/psy-apologizes-for-anti-american-lyrics/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://fox2now.com/2012/12/10/psy-apologizes-for-...&lt;/a&gt; 
 
Excerpt: &quot;CNN was able to translate the lyrics as saying,&#8221; Kill those f&#8211;ing Yankees who have been torturing Iraqi captives and those who ordered them to torture,&#8221; and going on to say, &#8220;Kill them all slowly and painfully,&#8221; as well as &#8220;daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law and fathers.&#8221;&quot; 
 
So your translation is poetic but still calling for the death of soldier&#039;s family&#039;s but then you say weakly that it doesn&#039;t say that really, without detail explanation. You just defy what you wrote making reference to Korean grammar, which I understand leads to difficulties, but you translated it, not me.  
 
I think you&#039;re simply wishing it meant something different. There is a degree of deniability, but very, very little. I am not buying it. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;It is complicated, but I&#039;m reasonably confident in my translation.&quot; </p>
<p>Good. My comments came from your translation. Also note that here:<br />
  <a href="http://fox2now.com/2012/12/10/psy-apologizes-for-anti-american-lyrics/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://fox2now.com/2012/12/10/psy-apologizes-for-" rel="nofollow">http://fox2now.com/2012/12/10/psy-apologizes-for-</a>&#8230; </p>
<p>Excerpt: &quot;CNN was able to translate the lyrics as saying,&rdquo; Kill those f&ndash;ing Yankees who have been torturing Iraqi captives and those who ordered them to torture,&rdquo; and going on to say, &ldquo;Kill them all slowly and painfully,&rdquo; as well as &ldquo;daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law and fathers.&rdquo;&quot; </p>
<p>So your translation is poetic but still calling for the death of soldier&#039;s family&#039;s but then you say weakly that it doesn&#039;t say that really, without detail explanation. You just defy what you wrote making reference to Korean grammar, which I understand leads to difficulties, but you translated it, not me.  </p>
<p>I think you&#039;re simply wishing it meant something different. There is a degree of deniability, but very, very little. I am not buying it. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 08:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;There were no crimes at Abu Grabazz moron, PC madness with stupidity at it&#039;s finest.&quot; 
 
Wait, didn&#039;t they hurt religious feelings? That&#039;s against the law already, isn&#039;t it? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;There were no crimes at Abu Grabazz moron, PC madness with stupidity at it&#039;s finest.&quot; </p>
<p>Wait, didn&#039;t they hurt religious feelings? That&#039;s against the law already, isn&#039;t it? </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 08:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The article is critical of Psy for telling people to kill Americans -- which he didn&#039;t do! &quot;  
  
The article is critical of him to support the point that he is not a good role model, not that he has no right to be a putz. 
  
You need to read and make sure you understand before you write left-handed replies. I notice that of course you didn&#039;t quote me, hoping that others will assume you accurately paraphrased me somehow, which you did not. It was either intentional, or I previously over-estimated your intelligence. I really do give people the benefit of any doubt. That doubt is fading fast.  
  
Again, it&#039;s amazing how often people miss the point, even when they&#039;re explicitly cautioned about doing so.  
  
THE ARTICLE IS CRITICAL OF FETING HIM because of his anti-American lyrics that called for killing families of American soldiers who are alleged to have killed Iraqis.  
  
He&#039;s otherwise a nobody, relatively harmless among Western &quot;rap&quot; performers. He&#039;s not a role model any politician should elevate. That is the most salient point of the article. If you didn&#039;t get it, then you didn&#039;t get it. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;The article is critical of Psy for telling people to kill Americans &#8212; which he didn&#039;t do! &quot;  </p>
<p>The article is critical of him to support the point that he is not a good role model, not that he has no right to be a putz. </p>
<p>You need to read and make sure you understand before you write left-handed replies. I notice that of course you didn&#039;t quote me, hoping that others will assume you accurately paraphrased me somehow, which you did not. It was either intentional, or I previously over-estimated your intelligence. I really do give people the benefit of any doubt. That doubt is fading fast.  </p>
<p>Again, it&#039;s amazing how often people miss the point, even when they&#039;re explicitly cautioned about doing so.  </p>
<p>THE ARTICLE IS CRITICAL OF FETING HIM because of his anti-American lyrics that called for killing families of American soldiers who are alleged to have killed Iraqis.  </p>
<p>He&#039;s otherwise a nobody, relatively harmless among Western &quot;rap&quot; performers. He&#039;s not a role model any politician should elevate. That is the most salient point of the article. If you didn&#039;t get it, then you didn&#039;t get it. </p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 08:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lol, I&#039;m not American! 
 
Pretending somebody said something they didn&#039;t say is not actually standing up for America, by the way. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol, I&#039;m not American! </p>
<p>Pretending somebody said something they didn&#039;t say is not actually standing up for America, by the way. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 08:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;&quot;Extremely probable&quot; is an understatement? Jeeze, you just can&#039;t win with some people!&quot; 
 
OK Dan, you&#039;re the winner! Yeah! Do you want a hug too? It&#039;s interesting what you choose to respond to, because it of course also reveals what you ignore. You can&#039;t say you didn&#039;t have time... 
 
Please don&#039;t be so sensitive. It bogs down the discussion. You do want to be understood, right? So focus on explaining your positions. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;&quot;Extremely probable&quot; is an understatement? Jeeze, you just can&#039;t win with some people!&quot; </p>
<p>OK Dan, you&#039;re the winner! Yeah! Do you want a hug too? It&#039;s interesting what you choose to respond to, because it of course also reveals what you ignore. You can&#039;t say you didn&#039;t have time&#8230; </p>
<p>Please don&#039;t be so sensitive. It bogs down the discussion. You do want to be understood, right? So focus on explaining your positions. </p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 08:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When Korean is written in prose, there are subject and object markers.  However, when used in song-lyrics, they are used or dropped depending on cadence and rhyme. 
 
In the Korean version of the quote, in the last 2 lines, there are no object or subject markers.  It is not completely clear if they are about killing the war-criminals or about the war-criminals killing.  In Korean when there are ambiguities, you have to use context.  In the quoted stanza, you would therefore defer to the other 2 lines (there were object markers on the Iraqis). 
 
It is complicated, but I&#039;m reasonably confident in my translation. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Korean is written in prose, there are subject and object markers.  However, when used in song-lyrics, they are used or dropped depending on cadence and rhyme. </p>
<p>In the Korean version of the quote, in the last 2 lines, there are no object or subject markers.  It is not completely clear if they are about killing the war-criminals or about the war-criminals killing.  In Korean when there are ambiguities, you have to use context.  In the quoted stanza, you would therefore defer to the other 2 lines (there were object markers on the Iraqis). </p>
<p>It is complicated, but I&#039;m reasonably confident in my translation. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 08:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Yes , you have proved to the rest of us that your a puzzy and afraid to stand up for your country.&quot; 
 
You called it correctly much quicker than I did. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Yes , you have proved to the rest of us that your a puzzy and afraid to stand up for your country.&quot; </p>
<p>You called it correctly much quicker than I did. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 08:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I think the lyrics are about the American military killing Iraqi families. Not advocating killing American families.&quot; 
 
You&#039;re quite funny. 
 
From your translation: 
 
&quot;1. All the &#8212; Yankees torturing Iraqis  
All those &#8212; Yankees who ordered the torturing  
Kill their daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law and fathers  
Kill them very slowly and painfully&quot;  
 
 
BS. You&#039;re in denial. So now the translation is: 
 
&quot;1. All the &#8212; Yankees torturing Iraqis  
All those &#8212; Yankees who ordered the torturing  
(and) Kill(ed) their daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law and fathers (in Iraq). 
(when they) Kill(ed) them very slowly and painfully&quot;  
 
 
What an unfortunate misunderstanding.  
 
I&#039;m so full of hate, I read it like this: 
 
&quot;1. All the &#8212; Yankees torturing Iraqis  
All those &#8212; Yankees who ordered the torturing of Iraqis 
Kill their daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law and fathers  
Kill them very slowly and painfully&quot;  
 
&quot;Kill their daughters&quot; etc. sounds like a call to action, not a continuation of the events he&#039;s lamenting. But, you could be right. You&#039;re the one who translated it. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;I think the lyrics are about the American military killing Iraqi families. Not advocating killing American families.&quot; </p>
<p>You&#039;re quite funny. </p>
<p>From your translation: </p>
<p>&quot;1. All the &mdash; Yankees torturing Iraqis<br />
All those &mdash; Yankees who ordered the torturing<br />
Kill their daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law and fathers<br />
Kill them very slowly and painfully&quot;  </p>
<p>BS. You&#039;re in denial. So now the translation is: </p>
<p>&quot;1. All the &mdash; Yankees torturing Iraqis<br />
All those &mdash; Yankees who ordered the torturing<br />
(and) Kill(ed) their daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law and fathers (in Iraq).<br />
(when they) Kill(ed) them very slowly and painfully&quot;  </p>
<p>What an unfortunate misunderstanding.  </p>
<p>I&#039;m so full of hate, I read it like this: </p>
<p>&quot;1. All the &mdash; Yankees torturing Iraqis<br />
All those &mdash; Yankees who ordered the torturing of Iraqis<br />
Kill their daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law and fathers<br />
Kill them very slowly and painfully&quot;  </p>
<p>&quot;Kill their daughters&quot; etc. sounds like a call to action, not a continuation of the events he&#039;s lamenting. But, you could be right. You&#039;re the one who translated it. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 08:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Let me make this clear as day: As somebody who has lived in both Canada and South Korea, my observations were that Koreans are more courteous towards the elderly, pregnant and mothers with children than North Americans are. &quot; 
 
That was already clear. Nobody denied your right to testify. 
 
 
&quot;You throw incorrect labels around willy-nilly -- for example calling me a liberal (I&#039;m not a liberal).&quot; 
 
 
Most liberals don&#039;t realize they&#039;re corrupted by liberal ideology. You don&#039;t identify as a liberal, But if you talk like one, you must think like one. Therefore, we can accurately call you liberal. 
 
 &quot;You also seem obsessed with generalisms and race.&quot; 
 
That&#039;s because you assume and apparently project too much. I NEVER said anything about race. You brought that up. 
 
 &quot;This article isn&#039;t about Asia or Asians as some sort of general concept, it is about a Korean.&quot; 
 
Actually, as soon as someone mentioned crowd behavior in the subsequent conversation, it was relevant to talk about Asian culture.  
 
&quot;When I gave you very direct information about behaviour in Korea, you took that as some sort of attack on your concepts about &quot;Asians&quot;.&quot; 
 
You may not have read the entire discussion thread, but I try to myself in order to understand the larger conversation. My rule is that if it&#039;s in the article or the discussion page and seems related, then it&#039;s fair game to discuss. 
 
Asia is a continent. Cultures have reach, often limited by communications and physical access. Continents have distinctions that can be made about culture. All of them. Cultures can be subdivided all the way down to a a pair of people. I think you misunderstood and simply read your liberal bias against supposed haters in to what I wrote. 
 
 
&quot;I feel you aren&#039;t very interested in the truth about the lyrics or about Koreans, only about &quot;winning&quot; a debate -- including by changing the subject. &quot; 
 
Well considering the timing of your replies, I&#039;d say you&#039;re not doing a very good job at tracking the conversation. Good luck with that in the future. You don&#039;t seem like a complete fool, you just don&#039;t know you&#039;ve been indoctrinated. 
 
&quot;You think you&#039;re more clever than you really are. I can see what you&#039;re trying to do.&quot; 
 
More delusional mind reading. You&#039;re not the first to try. 
 
 
&quot;I&#039;m glad you enjoy &quot;playing&quot; when people who disagree with you &quot;show up&quot;. Unfortunately in this case you didn&#039;t play very fair -- yet you still lost.&quot; 
 
You misunderstood. No surprises there. Come back in a few days when some of the arguments permeate your biased brain. You might realize the mistakes you&#039;ve made. 
 
Let me put it to you in a way that you might understand. I know your worldview and rhetoric just as well as you do. I simply disagree sharply. I don&#039;t want to make it comfortable for you to go away and think there is no cost to holding on to your delusions. 
 
On the other hand, you&#039;re not by any stretch the worst to come along, so don&#039;t take it personally. Don&#039;t be such a baby please. Why don&#039;t you review what you wrote to see if you can discover what you said that is so offensive and demeaning to the people you pretend to respect. I already explained it explicitly, so we&#039;ll see if you manage to read the whole thread and remember the entire conversation and context of points made. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Let me make this clear as day: As somebody who has lived in both Canada and South Korea, my observations were that Koreans are more courteous towards the elderly, pregnant and mothers with children than North Americans are. &quot; </p>
<p>That was already clear. Nobody denied your right to testify. </p>
<p>&quot;You throw incorrect labels around willy-nilly &#8212; for example calling me a liberal (I&#039;m not a liberal).&quot; </p>
<p>Most liberals don&#039;t realize they&#039;re corrupted by liberal ideology. You don&#039;t identify as a liberal, But if you talk like one, you must think like one. Therefore, we can accurately call you liberal. </p>
<p> &quot;You also seem obsessed with generalisms and race.&quot; </p>
<p>That&#039;s because you assume and apparently project too much. I NEVER said anything about race. You brought that up. </p>
<p> &quot;This article isn&#039;t about Asia or Asians as some sort of general concept, it is about a Korean.&quot; </p>
<p>Actually, as soon as someone mentioned crowd behavior in the subsequent conversation, it was relevant to talk about Asian culture.  </p>
<p>&quot;When I gave you very direct information about behaviour in Korea, you took that as some sort of attack on your concepts about &quot;Asians&quot;.&quot; </p>
<p>You may not have read the entire discussion thread, but I try to myself in order to understand the larger conversation. My rule is that if it&#039;s in the article or the discussion page and seems related, then it&#039;s fair game to discuss. </p>
<p>Asia is a continent. Cultures have reach, often limited by communications and physical access. Continents have distinctions that can be made about culture. All of them. Cultures can be subdivided all the way down to a a pair of people. I think you misunderstood and simply read your liberal bias against supposed haters in to what I wrote. </p>
<p>&quot;I feel you aren&#039;t very interested in the truth about the lyrics or about Koreans, only about &quot;winning&quot; a debate &#8212; including by changing the subject. &quot; </p>
<p>Well considering the timing of your replies, I&#039;d say you&#039;re not doing a very good job at tracking the conversation. Good luck with that in the future. You don&#039;t seem like a complete fool, you just don&#039;t know you&#039;ve been indoctrinated. </p>
<p>&quot;You think you&#039;re more clever than you really are. I can see what you&#039;re trying to do.&quot; </p>
<p>More delusional mind reading. You&#039;re not the first to try. </p>
<p>&quot;I&#039;m glad you enjoy &quot;playing&quot; when people who disagree with you &quot;show up&quot;. Unfortunately in this case you didn&#039;t play very fair &#8212; yet you still lost.&quot; </p>
<p>You misunderstood. No surprises there. Come back in a few days when some of the arguments permeate your biased brain. You might realize the mistakes you&#039;ve made. </p>
<p>Let me put it to you in a way that you might understand. I know your worldview and rhetoric just as well as you do. I simply disagree sharply. I don&#039;t want to make it comfortable for you to go away and think there is no cost to holding on to your delusions. </p>
<p>On the other hand, you&#039;re not by any stretch the worst to come along, so don&#039;t take it personally. Don&#039;t be such a baby please. Why don&#039;t you review what you wrote to see if you can discover what you said that is so offensive and demeaning to the people you pretend to respect. I already explained it explicitly, so we&#039;ll see if you manage to read the whole thread and remember the entire conversation and context of points made. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 08:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Can&#039;t stand the use of the term &quot;Orientals?&quot; Would you like to pretend that race doesn&#039;t matter?&quot; 
 
There is no such thing as any &quot;Oriental race.&quot; Race doesn&#039;t matter because there are no distinctly separate races of humans. There is only one. It&#039;s about culture. Period. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Can&#039;t stand the use of the term &quot;Orientals?&quot; Would you like to pretend that race doesn&#039;t matter?&quot; </p>
<p>There is no such thing as any &quot;Oriental race.&quot; Race doesn&#039;t matter because there are no distinctly separate races of humans. There is only one. It&#039;s about culture. Period. </p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 08:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hahahaha, ridiculous. 
 
The article is critical of Psy for telling people to kill Americans -- which he didn&#039;t do! 
 
Also, Psy&#039;s comments (what he ACTUALLY said) were made in 2004.  So they were, in fact, quite timely and not out-dated at all. 
 
You&#039;re literally the one missing the point.  You&#039;ve argued yourself into a pretzel.  It&#039;s kind of sad to watch. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahahaha, ridiculous. </p>
<p>The article is critical of Psy for telling people to kill Americans &#8212; which he didn&#039;t do! </p>
<p>Also, Psy&#039;s comments (what he ACTUALLY said) were made in 2004.  So they were, in fact, quite timely and not out-dated at all. </p>
<p>You&#039;re literally the one missing the point.  You&#039;ve argued yourself into a pretzel.  It&#039;s kind of sad to watch. </p>
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