The Futility of Apology


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Einstein’s definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results. By this standard, our foreign policy in the Middle East has been managed by crazy people since 1979. In fact, so consistent are the mistakes and delusions characterizing our responses to the jihadists that anything one can say has already been written.

The riots and violence in Afghanistan over some accidentally burned Korans are following a script that by now is all too drearily familiar. As we have seen over the years with the riots over the Mohammed cartoons, Pope Benedict’s comments about violence in Islam, or false rumors of Korans flushed down toilets, violent Muslim overreactions to slights are immediately followed by anxious apologies from American leaders. Rather than defusing the anger, however, such groveling merely encourages more contempt and violence.

I wrote that on FrontPage back in February, but change the first sentence and it applies perfectly to the murders of our ambassador and three other Americans in Libya and the continuing violent demonstrations against our embassies in Yemen and Egypt. The violence in Cairo and Libya happened on the anniversary of 9/11, and was clearly intended to demonstrate approval of those attacks, with the rioters in Cairo chanting, “We are all Osama!” Despite that provocation, now, like back in February, foreign policy officials offer groveling apologies that do nothing to stop the violence, but in fact encourage more by projecting weakness. Worse yet, the chauvinistic and intolerant sensibilities of Muslims that lead to violence are made as important as the murders of our citizens and the fundamental right of free speech. The embassy in Cairo said it condemned “the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims,” and exhibited a profound ignorance of the First Amendment by adding, “We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others.” Secretary of State Hillary Clinton essentially concurred: “The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation.”

This validation of the specious motives of the murderers and protesters drained the rote condemnations of the violence of any force, not to mention throwing under the bus our own First Amendment. Worse yet, it validated the blasphemy laws of Islamic shari’a, thus finding common ground with the jihadist Muslim Brothers, who thundered, “Hurting the feelings of one and a half billion Muslims cannot be tolerated, and the people’s anger and fury for their faith is invariably predictable, often unstoppable,” the statement threatened, going on to demand that “assaults on the sanctities of all heavenly religions” be criminalized. “Otherwise, such acts will continue to cause devout Muslims across the world to suspect and even loathe the West, especially the USA, for allowing their citizens to violate the sanctity of what they hold dear and holy. Hence, we demand that all those involved in such crimes be urgently brought to trial.” In other words, trash your own cherished rights like free speech or face more violence from Muslims. That’s the way you bully those you think are weaker than you.

Of course, forget about any reciprocity for the “respect” demanded of us. This delusional repetition of history evident in the current situation makes the comment of then presidential primary candidate Newt Gingrich about the violence in Afghanistan just as relevant today: “There seems to be nothing that radical Islamists can do to get Barack Obama’s attention in a negative way and he is consistently apologizing to people who do not deserve the apology of the President of the United States period,” Gingrich said. “It is Hamid Karzai who owes the American people an apology, not the other way around. This destructive double standard whereby the United States and its democratic allies refuse to hold accountable leaders who tolerate systematic violence and oppression in their borders must come to an end.”

So too today. One faction of what passes for a government in Libya has apologized, but what have we heard from Egyptian president Mohammad al-Morsi? Even the Islamophilic New York Times noted, “Egyptian leaders, inexplicably, have not followed that lead.” Morsi––his country the recipient of billions in U.S. foreign aid, his own path to power greased by Obama’s abandonment of the reliable Hosni Mubarak––instead offered not an apology, or heart-felt regret and condolences, but merely a generic condemnation of violence sharing equal time with a condemnation of the obscure film insulting Mohammed:  “I see in Egypt and the Arab and Islamic world a severe anger toward the violations made by a very small number of individuals. They have insulted the prophet Mohammed, peace be upon him. We stand very strongly against this. We don’t agree with or approve this, and we stand against anyone who tries to raise such false slogans and create these disturbances, tension and hatred between populations. . . . Those [people] are not accepted, not by people in Egypt nor other Arab and Islamic countries, nor by their own people. I affirm that the American people reject this and I’ve called on them to declare their rejection of them, at the same time with our rejection of those bad practices that bring harm and not benefit.” And to add insult to injury, Morsi instructed Obama to “put an end to such behavior” like the exercising of the right to free speech.

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  • SCREW SOCIALISM

    "Einstein’s definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results. "

    A tired and discredited saying.

    Consider a slot machine. Drop in a coin, pull the lever and each pull will generally return a different result.

    • http://www.thereligionofpeace.com Porky's2istan

      And yet the result that matters is that you lose 96% of the time, and when you do win you only break even. Gambling addicts are genetically programmed to ignore statistics. :P

    • Guest

      What an articulate thinker you are ! There is a "different result" between losing and losing?

    • tagalog

      How has Einstein's claim been discredited? A slot machine is the first thing (sane) people think of when they think of doing the same thing over and over and getting the same result. It's a cliche.

  • SCREW SOCIALISM

    When Muslims burn the American flag, kill Americans. I have no reason to "respect" their "prophet".

    A movie mocking their "prophet", a "prophet" that inspired the 9/11 crime against humanity doesn't deserve any respect.

    If anyone mocks and shames mohammed, it's the Muslim, some of whom are named Mohammed, who murder people all over the world.

    • Alvaro

      They are not shaming him, sadly just following his murderous example.

    • mcwrath

      The last time I checked anyone who hired assins to murder voices in oppossition and commanded his followers kill those who critised his creed, who raped and pillaged committed mass murder, ethnic clensing, torture, slavetrading and pedeophilia was desnigated as evil…surly one to shamed and mocked. esp by a member of a group who are suffering at the hands of those followers of the evil one.
      But you are right of course in that muhammad does'nt deserve respect… indeed I suspect those libtards don't really 'respect' it either but rather fear defending western civilisation.

  • jackflash

    How about not supporting their dictators,not invading their countrys and not occupying their land?
    What goes around, comes around.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      jackassflash,

      You wanted the US to suffer on 9/11 and not fight back? Sorry pal. This is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, NOT EURABIA.

    • Alvaro

      You, sir, are an idiot. Islam was from the beginning an imperialist dictatorship built around the personality cult of Muhammed, and under the cloak of religion. The reason the religion grew was basically the same as with other groups of organized crime – money and women (because of plunder and military expansion).

      Muslims invaded not only the Arabian peninsula, but pretty much the entire Middle East, that used to be the core areas of Judaism and Christianity.

      In the year 711, Muslims invaded Spain. From then on they continued with repeated military aggression against Europe, until their final siege on Vienna was broken on September 11 in 1683. Notice the date.

      As for Libya, another country invaded and raped by Muslim invaders, as far as I can recall, Gaddafi was not very popular in the West. And as far as I can recall, the very "moderate" Muslim "protesters" (armed with "moderate" RPGs) would have gotten wiped out with their Al-Qaeda friends by government forces, had not NATO decided to intervene on behalf of Al-Qaeda "democrats".

      To sum it up: * Libya is not occupied by the West, but like many other countries it was occupied by Muslim invaders.

      * Gaddafi had zero support in the west, but he had major support in Libya.

      Yes, what goes around comes around: It is time to pay these ingrates back in kind.

      • wsk

        repay these bastards with a daisy cutter.

    • Sergio

      jackflash, I like your style: "let's blame the victim so we don't have to confront the bully". It's a ver cowardish style (no consequences when blaming the victim, as opossed to the consequences of blaming the bully), but very effective. You are on a sure path to sumission (Islam)…Just remember what Mahatma Ghandi said: Fear has its use but cowardice has none.

    • Rifleman

      Hey jack, is that some kind of drone reflex response? I guess it escaped your keen eye and mind that obama withdrew support for quaddaffy and mubarek, and didn't invade their countries or occupy their land.

    • FPF

      If you don't supporting their dictators, you have to invade their country to stop them from doing their things. If you invade their country, you have no choice but to occupy their land.

    • http://www.facebook.com/docky.musicy Docky Musicy

      According to the muslim-zombies till even one jew is alive anywhere on this they have to struggle to k i l l him if they cannot convert him and his family into gutter islam.

      According to the muslim-zombies till even one Christian is alive anywhere on Earth they have to struggle to k i l l him if they cannot convert him and his family into gutter islam.

      According to the muslim-zombies till even one Hindu is alive anywhere on Earth they have to struggle to k i l l him if they cannot convert him and his family into gutter islam.

      According to the muslim-zombies till even one Buddhist is alive anywhere on Earth they have to struggle to k i l l him if they cannot convert him and his family into gutter slime islam.

      According to the muslim-zombies till even one Zorastrian is alive anywhere on Earth they have to struggle to k i l l him if they cannot convert him and his family into gutter slime islam.

      According to the muslim-zombies till even one NON-MUSLIM-ZOMBIES is alive anywhere on Earth they have to struggle to k i l l him if they cannot convert him and his family into gutter slime islam.

      According to the muslim-zombies till even one pig is alive anywhere on Earth they have to struggle to k i l l it.
      According to the muslim-zombies till even one dog is alive anywhere on this they have to struggle to k i l l it.
      Moremad’s madness is descending on our children and our lives.
      Pure Madness is descending on Planet Earth.
      Our superior morals and our superior education is letting us see what is happening around us but only as watchers to our own funerals. When will we strike back as men ? If not for us let us fight for our women and children and their children.

      I'd read a fantastic article somewhere about the post 9 11 scenerio where islam was tackled with brains and finality and defeated. I can't find it now….can someone help.

  • Rifleman

    Apologizing to the violent mob indicates the USA is wrong, they are right, and only encourages them to go further on their chosen course of violent mob action. It shouldn't have to be explained to our diplomats, and it says a lot that it does.

    • Sunbeam

      It is like over reacted. Aren't they always? By apologizing makes them even more BOLDER.

  • MikeWood

    Muslims insult themselves by believing in Muhammad.

  • Michael Schneider

    Sirs,
    A very interesting and to the point article.
    I would just like to point out that a few centuries ago one could have written virtually the same article about the Catholic church in Europe, Spain for example, just by changing the religion in question from Islam to Christianity. Before that we have King David in the Old Testament invading a town and killing every living creature in it acting on God's will..
    Perhaps the wrath of the writer should be turned toward organized religions making their way in the world.
    The sooner human kind stops believing in fairy tale deities and takes responsibility for itself these atrocities will continue. Unfortunately, that's not to say we won't find other excuses to behave "righteously" but we may have the opportunity.

    • Gee

      Yes all religions have a period of immaturity. Either they evolve or they are destroyed. How many people have either of those religions attacked or murdered in the last few hundred years, or in the case Jews thousands of years? Either the Muslims grow up or they will be destroyed.

      Everybody talks about "Moderate Arabs". Moderates do not riot over insults, moderates do not murder over insults, moderates do not threaten violence over insults, moderates do not even call for criminal penalties for insults. The fiction that Muslims can be "Moderates", those are known as Extremists.

    • Kufar Dawg

      The atrocities the Catholic church committed are a poor joke in comparison to what the muslo-fascists did in the Indian sub-continent and more importantly are still doing. Get bent jihad joe.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "I would just like to point out that a few centuries ago one could have written virtually the same article about the Catholic church in Europe, Spain for example, just by changing the religion in question from Islam to Christianity"

      What is the application to today's challenges then?

      What you've stated is only true very superficially and furthermore, Biblical arguments destroyed the theocracy.

      Now ask yourself what to do about Islam to destroy *that* theocracy in the present tense. We have no tolerance for totalitarian tyrants of any kind. I will challenge any totalitarian ideology.

      I guess if you want to make the point that any population in theory can be caught up in theocracy, I don't hear any race based arguments against Muslims. This is about the true facts of history and what to do going forward after that history has been considered.

      "Before that we have King David in the Old Testament invading a town and killing every living creature in it acting on God's will.."

      A very stupid comparison. Anyone can follow David's example today by waiting for a prophet to order warfare, The Biblical standard for prophecy is very high. That is why there have been no prophets for nearly 2000 years. Contrast that with Islam where any violence is justified if you are a Muslim and FEEL that is advances Islam. Those standards of justice are the polar opposite from one another. Yet you simply focus on "violence" without any discussion of justice.

      There is nothing wrong with judicial violence. It is a required aspect of civilization. Unjust violence is in direct opposition to judicial violence. In a just society, the unjust are punished. Get it? Still confused?

      We can't go back to judge David because we are NOT told this history as an example to guide our conduct. Often the stories of the Bible are "cautionary tales" and NOT examples. If you compare an example of what to do in Islam with what NOT to do in the Bible without mentioning the Bible's actual instructions, that makes you a deceiver or a dupe. In either case, you are unjust and working on the side of evil.

      "Perhaps the wrath of the writer should be turned toward organized religions making their way in the world."

      All those that clearly foment evil, sure. Name others. Where are these violent Christians and Jews quoting Bible passages to justify violence that is unjust by Western standards?

      "The sooner human kind stops believing in fairy tale deities and takes responsibility for itself these atrocities will continue."

      I'm already asleep with your tired fallacious arguments.

      • HighPressure

        You are sort of taking scripture out of context…. The Bible recorded what happened as history at point. Remember David was refused rothe job of building the Tabenacle by God. Mosy people who quote the Bible toshow how violent the Jews are ussually don't see that point and as you have mentioned… where is the cause and effect. It isn't there.

        Actually Islam and Secilar Religions (ie Communism) is more a religion the Judaism or Christiamity … and you have to have more faith to beleive in it.

    • burt

      you, Schneider, did s*it in your pants – —–
      when you were a baby, but you do not do it (I hope) now.
      So forget what Catholic Church DID…..now they are the true Religion of Love.
      Islam – before and NOW – calls for killing you and me – and other non-muslims.
      Capisce?

  • ealha3

    Therefore….? What we have is "what is" or what's wrong with "what is." We will keep engaging in the same insanity so long as there is no known better, viable alternative. What we need is what should have been done "differently…" and/or what should be done to solve the problem. Criticism with no alternative is merely whitewashing the canvas leaving neither a better picture that should have been or that should be….

    • Michael Schneider

      There is no better alternative when religion comes into the picture. It's just a facade for power grabbing as it always was, even if the masses don't realize it.

      • Kufar Dawg

        Yeah Buddha was all about oppressing and persecuting other people, so was Yeshua Dimwit.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        "There is no better alternative when religion comes into the picture. It's just a facade for power grabbing as it always was, even if the masses don't realize it."

        That's helpful, but not really. I think he had something constructive in mind.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "Therefore…." "We will keep engaging in the same insanity so long as there is no known better, viable alternative. "

      That is a very good point.

      What needs to happen is that we need to educate people on Islam through history, and its relationship with Western factions. We need to educate people about Islam's ideology and justifications for its totalitarian doctrines. Only then will people see that murder is committed on a constant basis on the word of a liar calling himself a prophet. Every Muslim today stands to gain from learning the facts and the implications of these facts. They are not going to be seeing any virgins after they die. Period. The truth for them only gets worse unless they learn it before they go too far.

      As more people become informed, we will have more teachers to continue the trend and peace will gradually return to some of these peoples. Or, we will all be destroyed and Islam will never be revealed to the majority of people for what it truly is; the biggest lie in human history.

      • ealha3

        Although I agree that we would all benefit with better educated radicals, it would seem to be an easier and more effective program to educate our own State Dept. to understand your basic principles and have them attempt to hold other governments to these self-evident standards. This is not rocket science – informing foreign countries living in the 7th century that they have a problem and that it is affecting our own enlightened society is the first step. How we can work together to deal with those affects is the next step in the formulation of policy. Unfortunately, we have an administration that considers acknowledging a problem with others is demeaning to one''s self-image, politically incorrect and therefore to be avoided. Go figure!

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "Although I agree that we would all benefit with better educated radicals, it would seem to be an easier and more effective program to educate our own State Dept."

          Their opinions are driven by their constituents. If they had no political support, or if the political support became educated (generally), these idiot positions in the State Department would be revised towards the consensus. By educating voters, you drive consensus. That is how it is supposed to work.

          With Obama or any other POTUS, you have quite a bit of latency, but with the election coming now is the time to act (if we are not too late). I've been working on this myself for over 2 years just worrying about him serving a second term.

          • ealha3

            Relying on the electoral system has been, to a great extent and exercise in futility. It is easily abused by promising constituents what they want to hear, and money, as opposed to what should be done. Also, it takes too long to accomplish anything and even if we elect what we think is competent, we still get government mis and malfeasance on a huge scale. Liberals don't depend on the election process. The ACLU and illegal immigration advocates have gained huge advantages – many illegal and unconstitutional by picking a single judge to rule according to their desires. E.g., every initiative that has gone against their agenda. Conservatives haven't learned that lesson. Legal action is far more effective and timely.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "it would seem to be an easier and more effective program to educate our own State Dept. to understand your basic principles and have them attempt to hold other governments to these self-evident standards."

          My second idea independent from education is suing some of the politicians who violate the law. The publicity from that direct action would lead to opportunities for more education through elevating the discourse by injecting more salient facts about Islam and Western ideals. Destroying liberal lies left over from the Soviet era would be nice too.

          • ealha3

            Hi. Again, thank you for your response. Holding our elected officials accountable is important beyond the scope of malfeasance – in this case fulfilling their responsibilities for establishing a foreign policy. It is also vital in misfeasance – preventing corruption. In both cases, it is not a difficult concept to apply. First, there should be a statute that directs the responsibility. That's the whole purpose of electing legislators. As a result, much of this legislations already exists. Secondly, there should be legislation that gives citizens a cause of action against any government officials and their agencies who fail to perform his or her duty in violation of the statute (continued in next reply)

          • ealha3

            – something legislators are obviously unwilling to do, even though every business and individual is held to that standard of responsibility. Having to rely on governmental prosecutorial services is what immunizes government from accountability. Unleashing the power of the junk-yard-dog private lawyer in this area could create a new standard of government action. Finally, to prevent abuse by – dare I say – unscrupulous lawyers filing nuisance actions, there must be a preliminary hearing to establish probable cause that the action is valid before it can go forward, and preferrably a loser pays legal system Funny, I don't seem to get my elected offical's attention on this issue

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "Criticism with no alternative is merely whitewashing the canvas leaving neither a better picture that should have been or that should be…. "

      I like your idea and already stated what constructive strategy to implement, but I also defend the author because truthful criticism can be a step towards a solution if salient facts are introduced or promoted in the public discourse. This criticism can lead people along solutions they perhaps had already considered but simply need more motivation.

      To be safe though, I like to try to remember to offer constructive solutions. Education to the extent that Islam is exposed and discredited as not merely dangerous for man and society, but absolutely false with no way to justify it. That may seem obvious, but until you prove it is not possible for Islam to be true, no Western values will scare or motivate too many Muslims to give up Islam. You have to expose all of it.

      What if Allah was real? You'd have to agree that they might be right to follow him if he was. Since we KNOW it's not, we can teach our way out of this mess. I hope.

      • ealha3

        I appreciate your comment and it complements the dialogue. What both our observations illustrate, however, is that neitherwe nor seemingly anyone else can point to a policy that applies tothe Middle East – or, for that matter, any other place in the world. We are amaturislyresponsive not professionally pro-active. Foreign policy has become an oxymoon since it is non-existent or at least non-defineableand that is a terrible commentary about our State Dept. that should exist to give notice to our friends and others about how the US promotes, defends andresponds to the actions of foreign countries, including their own actions with their own citizens. One unfortunate reason for thefailure of the administration and the State Dept. to formulate foreign policies is the abject neglect andfailure of the media, or anyone else, including Congress to hold them accountable to their responsibilities. <DIV> <DIV id=SkyDrivePlaceholder></DIV> From: notifications@intensedebatemail.comTo: ealha3@msn.comSubject: objectivefactsmatter replied to your comment on The Futility of Apology

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "I appreciate your comment and it complements the dialogue. What both our observations illustrate, however, is that neitherwe nor seemingly anyone else can point to a policy that applies tothe Middle East – or, for that matter, any other place in the world. "

          Yes, because "we the people' failed in education first, and that led to failed politicians who were only elected due to opportunities created by the ignorant constituents and their delusions of a shangrila government.

          I'm not disagreeing with anything that you've said, but just pointing out there are 2 things you can do.

          1) Make your vote count on election day
          2) Make your wisdom count before election day to win more voters in the direction of the only superior choice available at the moment.

          After that, keep working on education.

      • Kufar Dawg

        Why don't you try teaching the muslo-fascists in Somalia, Pakistain, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Soddy Barbaria, Iranistan, Iraq, Syria, Egyptistan, Tunisia? Put your money where your mouth is, put your theory into action, or stop wasting everyone's time w/meaningless pie-in-the-sky fairytales.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          What makes you so certain I'm not doing that in between posting replies to people like you? I've been overseas all year with plans to return to the US only as needed. Jihadis are easier to stare down than you think. Just don't show up anywhere they might expect you in advance. They almost never act alone or spontaneously unless you are really stupid.

          • Kufar Dawg

            I don't believe a word of what you just wrote. I don't believe you're going to Pakistain, Somalia or Bangladesh and criticising islam publicly.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "Put your money where your mouth is, put your theory into action, or stop wasting everyone's time w/meaningless pie-in-the-sky fairytales."

          And since I'm already doing that, how about if you try to show a little humanity so that those without the benefits of education won't assume that all anti-Islam sentiments are driven be hate and fear? How did I waste your precious time? Show that you have some objective reason for your moral outrage and the more cerebral among us will do the rest. If you can't do that, you're simply giving liberals a reason to ignore the people who CAN make a difference. That difference is already happening, but it could go faster with some sensible modifications to the attitudes of certain individuals who don't know how to contribute constructively to the discourse on these matters.

          • Drakken

            The only difference your going to make is if you prepare yourself for the comming troubles, for it will be brutal and extremely bloody.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "The only difference your going to make"

            You have a lot in common with the president, like your omniscience for starters.

  • Sunbeam

    The point here is to separate religion from state. It shouldn't be church and state or mosque and state. I hope the world can come up with a solution to solve this unending problem by breaking off these two entity (religion = state). The Roman Catholics had it in the Medieval time and there were so much upheaval and chaos everywhere during that dark ages and thru many centuries until the Pope ( I forgot the name) was captured by Napoleon and jailed. That was when Papal rule loses its power from state rule. We see this Islam picking up things from where the Roman Catholics left. It is exactly following the style of the Roman Catholics of governing of the Medieval Ages. And this is dangerous and scary. I hope the world would stop this from happening. That king of rule should be thrown into the deep of the deep and let it finds us no more.

    • Sunbeam

      Sorry, my mistake. It should be "That kind of rule should be thrown into the deep of the deep and let it finds us no more" Thank you.

    • Kufar Dawg

      You're an ignoramus. You should read up on what the muslimes did in the Indian sub-continent — especially what the great muslime hero Tamerlane did.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "The point here is to separate religion from state."

      No joke! That is the problem! Islam is allowed to inject their politics in to OUR state as well as their own.

      "I hope the world can come up with a solution to solve this unending problem by breaking off these two entity (religion = state). "

      Ever heard of the Constitution of the USA?

      "The Roman Catholics had it in the Medieval time and there were so much upheaval and chaos everywhere during that dark ages and thru many centuries until the Pope ( I forgot the name) was captured by Napoleon and jailed. That was when Papal rule loses its power from state rule. We see this Islam picking up things from where the Roman Catholics left."

      Not only is this overly-simple, it leaves out the salient history to show why we can't expect Islam to reform. If you follow the fall of Roman Catholic theocracy, it clearly started when the Bible was put in the hands of the masses by the printing press. It took centuries with varied results by nation to work this out, but it is clear that Christianity was reformed by grass roots movements even though they also had the support of some political leaders throughout the period.

      As you teach it, there is really no way to explain why the reformation happened. Deceptive Muslims who want to encourage Westerners to just "wait it out" for Islam to reform like aged win or cheese like to use senseless recaps like yours. Once you understand the history of Christianity in Europe, you can see that Islam would have been reformed already if there was ever any chance it would. They would have seen already that their texts are false derivatives of the texts they arrogantly claim (with zero evidence or rational logic) to correct. These texts have been available to for research for centuries. The Islamic texts don't tolerate non-Islamic research. Anything in conflict with Islam is de facto false.

      It's circular logic and has supposedly well over a billion believers. What now? First learn enough facts of history then try to teach it to Muslims one at a time. Be careful if you make any videos. Be careful period.

      • Sunbeam

        It;s not easy to rationalize with Muslims. Their minds are fixed. They were weaned from a very young age the theory and ideology of Islam. The way they've been brought up shows in their integral with society how bitterness and hostility they can be towards people not of their faith. Needlessly to say, the arrogance, self righteous and the destructive force from within themselves, make things even harder for us to reach out to them or to teach them. In this context, they don't only pose a danger to society but was in fact a stress-er to society and we are the ones who have been STRESS out in all point.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "It;s not easy to rationalize with Muslims. Their minds are fixed. They were weaned from a very young age the theory and ideology of Islam."

          Believe me, I know this. The first place to start is with reasonable Westerners who simply have never been told the truth in the first place.

          "In this context, they don't only pose a danger to society but was in fact a stress-er to society and we are the ones who have been STRESS out in all point. "

          I don't deny these issues, but it is far more complex than that. My essential point is that the more of us that focus on reason and clear teaching of the salient, relevant facts, the more productive our time will be.

          I can see progress has been made, but it's frustratingly slow. One president could change it. I never liked Gingrich, but someone who is willing to simply tell the plain truth about Islam is what we need, and when that person is more broadly supported, that will make a difference as just one example. But the other example is when we in discussion groups spend more time teaching rather than preaching in anger with subjective statements, our efforts will be more quickly rewarded.

          Islam is wrong. We can win. It doesn't just suck. I don't just hate it. It is objectively wrong because it is based on lies and conflicts with Western standards of morality and justice. Period. Even they feign to agree with Western norms when appealing to the 'international community" which makes a strong argument that at least some Western values are "universal" among reasonable people. The fact that people flock to the USA from all over the world is another indicator that we have righteousness on our side. The biggest impediment to global consensus is the UN and the "Organisation of Islamic Cooperation." Without those tragedies, we might not be so deep in a hole, but don't underestimate the damage caused by the Soviet Communists and their loyalists. We haven't even begun to repair that.

    • Drakken

      The Pope and Rome needs to start defending the faithful with the sheild and the sword, you can pray for peace till the cows come home, it doesn't stop the muslims from slaughtering the christians.

  • Schlomotion

    Einstein's definition of fascism was Menachem Begin.

    Mr. Thornton is rehashing the Beginite Fascist lament over the loss of the Shah of Iran. This is a good reference for that:
    http://begincenterdiary.blogspot.com/2008/12/on-m

    It is amazing, the level to which Frontpage's writers are defending the Nakoula video in service of pining over the Shah, one of the favorite Zionist pastimes.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Shariamotion, What's the matter? You still upset that your side SURRENDERED UNCONDITIONALLY to the US, UK and SU?

      WW2 Victory in Europe Day: Beaten Nazis Sign Historic Surrender (1945) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFFEKPIB0J8

      Happy Nakba Shariamotion!

    • Ghostwriter

      Imbecility,thy name is Schlomotion.

    • Kufar Dawg

      The Shah of Iran was a paragon of human rights in comparison to the muslo-fascists which run it now fool.

    • Doug

      Menachem Begin was a democrat and a peace-maker, as he proved during his lifetime.

    • BS77

      Quit replying to Schlocko…..he's a provocateur and little more. Why bother arguing with this pile of garbage?

    • objectivefactsmatter

      Troll

  • Advocatus

    All this business of Western leaders apologizing after each and every time Muslims worldwide take offense at this or that silly little thing and go on a murderous rampage is not only pathetic but also self-defeating. By apologizing meekly and repeatedly at the first threat or sign of violence, we tacitly acknowledge Muslims' apparent assumption that we in the West are collectively responsible for the actions of a single individual who happens to burn a Koran or whatnot by way of protesting Islamic radicalism.

    Meantime, Muslim radicals keep on slaughtering Westerners at random the world over in one terror attack after another. What do we do? We tsk-tsk, we snivel and we insist ad nauseam that such acts of violence have "nothing to do with Islam" and that the murderous savagery of "a few radicals on the lunatic fringe" does not reflect the peaceable nature of Muslims anywhere.

    A cognitive dissonance there, anyone?

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Muslim radicals slaughter people ALL OVER THE WORLD.

      Do Pakistan and India have friendly relations, or at each others throats? See the Mumbai India massacre.

      See the near nuclear war between Pakistan and Inida, a dispute over ownership of land – Kashmir.

      • Advocatus

        That's true. Islam's "bloody borders" (not to mention its bloody innards) are on glorious display pretty much everywhere you find a larger concentrations of Muslims: in the south of the Philippines, in southern Thailand, on Azerbaijan's border with Armenia, in Nigeria etc.

        My comment above referred to the West's own problems with Islam and our congenital need to apologize for everything from the Crusades to turning piglets into loveable cartoon characters.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "My comment above referred to the West's own problems with Islam and our congenital need to apologize for everything from the Crusades to turning piglets into loveable cartoon characters"

          If you study history closely, this was apparently an attack on Christianity when Islam was thought to be ancient and totally irrelevant forever. Islam and Catholic theocracy were used to attack Christianity by post-Christian thinkers. Darwin's book allowed them to come out publicly and all sorts of philosophies revisionism in the West as alternatives to the "lie" of the Bible were promoted. Islam at that time was used as a weapon. Now Muslims use these liars and their lies to "validate" their rage as if reading literal collective confessions.

          Islam is collectivist by the way. It doesn't even understand individual human rights. Freedom of speech makes no sense to any collectivist. Let your local leader speak for you and all will be well.

    • Kufar Dawg

      When Ahmed Al Arsehole from one of the Gulf states finances the majority of a politician's campaign for office it's hard not to think the muslimes must be good people — despite the fact Ahmed Al Arsehole comes from an islamofascist state where freedom of expression, freedom of religion and equality before the law don't exist.

    • Sunbeam

      We are their targets. They ain't stupid. You think they caused this uproar for nothing? Every uproar they cause have an agenda behind. We must wake up and stop being gullible or else we would be fooled. If you observed their movement closely and with the right judgement, you will be able to come out what they are actually up to. All this while they are playing actors, while we're spectators. Realize this that this is their psychological warfare and they'd been playing it for a long time, we too must have our own psychological warfare too. It's time!

  • wsk

    The futility of apology–no shiite!

  • Western Spirit

    We're practicing to become dummy's er dhimmi's or whatever, we're groveling at the feet of those who wish to destroy us hoping that will placate them because we're too stupid to realize these people only respect strength. And strong is the only way we'll prevail against their assault on our civilization.

  • zalukas

    A squadron of B52's loaded with 5000 lb canisters of Pig Lard and leaflets with Barney Frank in a swimsuit….

    Now that will offend some Moohameddans .

    • objectivefactsmatter

      I know you are joking, but as president I would order all kinds of "offensive" literature dropped on all of these mobs and let them reveal their identities to local authorities until we flushed out the violent actors, and the local governments that would either cooperate or fail to. I would continue this far longer than any non-American government would ever expect. I would make them numb, and when they woke up from the shock they would never forget what freedom of speech means to civilized people.

  • Ghostwriter

    Yesterday,Congressman Keith Ellison appeared on "The O'Reilly Factor" to assure us that not all Muslims feel the way the protesters do. And,to a certain extent,I agree with him. It's not all Muslims. It's the OVERWHELMING majority of them.

    • Kufar Dawg

      Gee I'm not noticing muslimes anywhere protesting the systematic, state-sponsored persecution of people of other faiths that goes on in ALL muslo-fascist pigsties, much less trying to stop it.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "Congressman Keith Ellison"

      Groan…

      "It's not all Muslims. It's the OVERWHELMING majority of them. "

      It really doesn't matter. Anyone who supports Islam as an ideology is either directly or indirectly causing this through direct action or at the very least the promotion of a false ideology that foments violence on a constant basis.

  • amused

    Speaking to George Stephanopoulous of ABC's “Good Morning America,” Romney said he still believed it was "inappropriate" for the embassy to put out the statement, issued as anger rose in Egypt on Tuesday over a film that ridiculed the Muslim prophet Muhammad. He said the embassy should have taken it down after protesters breached the embassy grounds. The same day, attackers in Libya stormed a U.S. consulate and killed four foreign service officers, including the ambassador, J. Christopher Stevens.
    The Cairo embassy press release said the United States "condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. " It added: “We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others.”Romney has said it amounted to sympathizing with America's attackers. He blamed President Obama, although he conceded that Obama had also distanced himself from the statement.

  • amused

    …..and then Mr.Flip -Flop …lol….Flips /

    But, asked about the film itself, Romney said he hadn’t seen it and had no intention of doing so. Still, he seemed to agree with much of the substance of the embassy’s statement.

    Way to go Mitt you pathetic dufus .

  • Aussie guest

    It's about time muslims behave like adults instead of spoiled children, throwing tantrums. We might respect them if they behaved liked civilised people. Haven't learned that violence only begats more violence. Every day one reads or hears of muslim atrocities against other muslims or worse non-muslims. I am so tired of hearing that this is not "real" islam, it's the actions of a few radicals, that islam is the religion of peace. Well, muslims how about showing us this religion of peace, because all I see and hear is hatred, violence, misogyny, intolerance and violence.

    • BS77

      haven't seen one, not ONE so called "moderate" come out and rail against this lunatic mob violence….just silence, complicity and the same robotic conformity……

  • Bashy Quraishy

    After the release of a short incendiary movie; Innocence of Muslims, which stupidly and wrongly depicts the Prophet Mohammad as a sex-crazed sadist prone to acts of unspeakable violence, a womanizer, pedophile, and homosexual, and Islam as violent, dangerous and a cancer. The movie has caused wide spread demonstrations in many Muslim countries, resulting in violence against western embassies and tragic loss of life of 4 USA diplomats and of anti-film many demonstrators.

    EMISCO – European Muslim Initiative for Social Cohesion strongly condemn this senseless violence and regrettable loss of innocent life.
    We are also grateful that Muslim communities, governments and NGOs have overwhelmingly condemned those who are behind these atrocities. We also appreciate that many Muslim political leaders have asked their citizens to demonstrate again this insulting and demonizing attempt in a peaceful and orderly manner. Many European Muslim civil society organizations advised their members and congregations to ignore this degrading provocation all together. They argued that Prophet Mohammad himself never reacted to castigation, he was subjected to.

    All this is a very welcome development. Interfaith co-operation and living together requires peace and harmony among various cultures, faiths and ethnic groups.
    However to sustain this positive direction, western governments and decision makers must make sure that 1.5 billion Muslims are not provoked time and again by anti-Islam and Islamophobic individuals, groups and movements in their part of the globe. Quran burning, anti-Islam hate propaganda through websites, books, movies, DVDs, You Tube films and political and church statements have become a regular occurrence. We need laws to safeguard the human rights of Muslims to practice their faith in peace and without demonization, often disguised under Freedom of Speech concept, for example, it has come out that Media for Christ, a USA company is behind the short film: 'Innocence of Muslims'.

    EMISCO is not asking for any special or preferential treatment for Muslim but will values equal treatment. We know that there are already laws in place in many western countries, which legally punishes holocaust denial, anti-Semitic utterances, hate speeches, homophobic statements, racial slurs and even blasphemy against Christianity. Is it not high time that Western governments take the issue of anti-Islam hate speech and Islamophobic propaganda seriously?

    Bashy Quraishy
    Secretary General

    EMISCO – European Muslim Initiative for Social Cohesion – Strasbourg
    0045 40154771

    • Sura 9: 5

      "EMISCO is not asking for any special or preferential treatment for Muslim but will values [sic] equal treatment. "

      The Hell with you!! You want US — the US of A to censor ourselves so that your precious, uncontrollable Muslim brothers can have NO excuse WHATSOEVER to riot, kill, maim, deface, destroy and rape anything that arouses their ire? Listen, bub, tell your crybabies to take their 'Hurt Feelings' and shove them in a soft, caring place. Thousands of muslims are burning stuff in the streets over a dozen countries and you are blaming one or two people half a world away? What are you smoking? Gimmie some of that! How Many Christians Kill for Christ and Hold up Bible Verses to Support Their Actions? You are a fool and a transparent Taqiyya Hypocrite.

      Mo never responded? What about the assassinations he ordered? And 'Wrongly Depicts'? The hell? He had 11 wives!! at the same time!! and how many slaves? Aiasha was 9 freaking years old when he married her, or don't you read your own hadith? Engaged since she was 6–had to make do with 'Thighing' otherwise known as 'child molestation'

      Oh, and the fire on the chest? Then stopping the caravan to have sex with that guy's wife that night? What are you reading, man? You will be KILLED if you dispute this! Own up. Oh, right, divine deception = taqiyya. Tool .

      Slander and blasphemy is anything you don't want to hear said by the wrong persons. Got it. Get used to it.

      and you dare to question that Mo was violent and that he has inspired his followers to be violent? Turn on the news, SG. Open a history book…. Jeez….

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "However"

      Translation, ignore the polite rhetoric above.

      '' to sustain this positive direction"

      The sweetest wording to a threat that I've read in quite some time.

      "western governments and decision makers must make sure that 1.5 billion Muslims are not provoked"

      NO! That is each Muslim's responsibility! Die a thousand deaths before you dare to apply your religious laws on others and especially on any nation FOUNDED on principals of religious liberties and separation of church and state, and most important in this case, freedom of speech, which is never more important than when discussing political and religious matters!

      "time and again by anti-Islam and Islamophobic individuals, groups and movements in their part of the globe"

      "Islamophobia" ranks right up there with fear of fear of Nazis and fear of violent death. That does not really make fear of Islam a phobia, but keep trying. Islam is actually worse, because it calls for bringing out the worst in mankind's history, the medieval totalitarian theocracy.

      "Quran burning, anti-Islam hate propaganda through websites, books, movies, DVDs, You Tube films and political and church statements have become a regular occurrence.

      Critical examples of free speech exercise, which is never more important than when teaching the dangers of a violent totalitarian ideology; Islam.

      "We need laws to safeguard the human rights of Muslims to practice their faith in peace"

      These exist already.

      "and without demonization"

      I have never seen ANY kind of protest or objection from ANY Muslims about the persecution of any non-Muslims like we see every day in both Libya and Egypt. Where is your press release about Coptic Christians? If you can't show me your intense interest in fighting Muslim violence against non-Muslims, how can I take you seriously? What does it mean to "demonize?" If you act like a demon, you will be described as such and have no legal or moral right to complain. I'll look forward to seeing your archives of press releases on these matters.

      "often disguised under Freedom of Speech concept,"

      It's either protected speech or its not. You don't get to redefine any of it as "disguised."

      "for example, it has come out that Media for Christ, a USA company is behind the short film: 'Innocence of Muslims'. "

      Learn tolerance from those who are so often killed by Muslims shouting about the so-called greatest god. Then maybe you'll reject Islam and perhaps find true peace when you discover those you have persecuted were in fact right about so many other things too.

      "EMISCO is not asking for any special or preferential treatment for Muslim"

      Yes, you are! Nobody else is asking for this except those afraid Muslims will kill them too

      "We know that there are already laws in place in many western countries, which legally punishes holocaust denial"

      These are not universal exceptions, and are entirely different than "religious blasphemy" or "hurting feelings" in that the denial of the holocaust is to deny facts of history, and that history includes murder.

      "anti-Semitic utterances"

      No, NOT utterances. Hate speech. These laws are very controversial and involve due process too. The irony is that your violent mobs make the case that we can't reason with you over the definitions of hate speech. That is really the most salient issue I see. We can't reason with you because your beliefs are entirely in conflict with Western standards of justice and due process.

      "hate speeches, homophobic statements, racial slurs and even blasphemy against Christianity."

      Again, your violent mobs make the case that we can't reason with you over the definitions of hate speech. That is really the most salient issue I see. We can't reason with you because your beliefs *and behaviors* are entirely in conflict with Western standards of justice and due process.

      There is no way you will ever be happy, even if any foolish government tries to take steps to protect your feelings. They can't be protected until the world is ruled by Islam and then you turn on yourselves. That won't happen since the end of Islam is so near. The knowledge of its fallacies are gaining critical mass and soon it will be a shadow of what it is today and maybe then the remaining believers will act as you claim most of them already do. At the very least, they will think before acting out with violence over a cult's lies.

      "Is it not high time that Western governments take the issue of anti-Islam hate speech and Islamophobic propaganda seriously?"

      YES! Freedom of speech is our most important freedom, because it is required to protect all of the others. It is high time we recognized the fallacious claims of "Islamophobia" and take seriously the threat of Islam in its Jihad strategies to destroy the West.

    • Drakken

      You muslims make no demands on us westerners period, your day of reckoning is comming and your time in the west is comming to an end, I say keep pushing us and your will get the Crusades on steroids. Deo Violente!!!

    • Ghostwriter

      Mr. Quraishy,

      It would be a lot easier to get along with Muslims if they weren't rioting over cartoons,movies,and novels that make fun of the Prophet Muhammad. It would also be easier if Muslims weren't screaming for the death of Americans every five minutes. That way,we could all get along without all these loons in your faith.

      Signed,
      Ghostwriter

  • guest

    Actually, the apology encourages bloodshed from their weakened victim, the US. Could the US ever be weaker
    than when it has a muslim brotherhood operative apologizing for acts of war in the white house?

  • PermReader

    One the eve of the possible loss of the power they look unbonded.Their pro-Obama propaganda in the Nitimes follows by false comments.Down with the gloves,the conservatives or it`ll be late.

  • MarkRich

    So here it is Saturday the 15th and the man who made the video has been picked up by authorities and questioned (not arrested mind you) and for what purpose? This is just the beginning my friends. We are rapidly giving up our constitutional rights and the public yawns and turns on the latest reality TV show. Its a very sick time that can only end badly. I honestly do not see either party with enough backbone to deal with these issues. Bush's "Islam is a religion of peace BS" was just the beginning. The best response to the attacks on 9/11 was NO REFERENCE to Islam and a miltary strike against ANY enemy of the USA regardless of religion or ideology. This PC correctness is going to lead to lots of shed blood- innocent shed blood- which seems preferable to those who acquise to Lunatic bullies. We are indeed a nation of as CS Lewis called it "Men without Chests".

  • Todd

    Islam seems to be the refuge of children from the modern world. Might they need a spanking?

  • Lightning Jack

    History has proven that mutual coexistence with fundamentalist Islam is not possible, and any host nation that is foolish enough to allow its adherents immigration status will suffer the inevitable consequences of Islams politico-religious fanaticism.

  • SayB

    what hate mongering foolish nonsense is this ? … there was never an "islam vs. christianity vs. judaism vs. west vs. blabla" saga ever ! – Just think why has it arisen now ? – It's merely a clash of civilizations. And the west is not off the hook either. You think invading even one country and getting millions of people killed as "collateral damage" is something that can be shrugged off ? – One child loosing his / her family is a new OBL because they don't have anything to loose anymore. You have provided them with a lot of live, walking talking bombs yourselves !

    And these modern day scums, who so boast their religion to be "Islam" are the reason why the west draws cartoons and makes films of their prophet. Because they really do not follow the teachings of "Islam" at all ! They are muslim only when it serves their purpose. And what would you say about a lot that *conveniently* deviates from it's religion whenever it has to and comes back ? – In reality these people do not follow a religion at all.

    Put economic depravity in the United States and then I'll see how "civil" the people there become.

    This is a *collective* problem. You people judge them with your westernized parameters. It's just purely, simply wrong to do so. If the west does not straighten up their act, and stop profiteering from their losses, then sadly we are all sitting on a big time bomb and it's clicking away !!

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "It's merely a clash of civilizations. And the west is not off the hook either. You think invading even one country and getting millions of people killed as "collateral damage" is something that can be shrugged off ? – One child loosing his / her family is a new OBL because they don't have anything to loose anymore. You have provided them with a lot of live, walking talking bombs yourselves ! "

      First, this is hyperbolic nonsense, but even if it were literally true, actions have consequences. That is the way of the world. All we can do is pursue justice with due process. Liberals think you must construct a perfect plan before acting, and then blame conservative when they fail. Of course they have denounced the USA due to its imperfect past (and revisionist liars like Zinn, Chomsky etc.). The USA was never expected to be perfect, only the the most just. It still is. It would do a lot better without people like you confusing the voters.

      If individuals have been harmed by the USA, they may make claims in the judicial systems. If nations have been harmed, they have avenues for remedies too. The USA is the most just nation ever. Period.

      "And these modern day scums, who so boast their religion to be "Islam" are the reason why the west draws cartoons and makes films of their prophet. Because they really do not follow the teachings of "Islam" at all !"

      You are the true, legitimate ayatollah? Are you running for caliph to straighten out this mess? Islam is the problem.

      "This is a *collective* problem."

      It's not a collective problem unless you count ideology. The solution and guilt can't be applied collectively if we remain Western, but we must discuss ideology, which is often mistakenly conflated with collectivism, especially when talking about Islam and other extreme collectivist ideologies.

      I think by "collective" you want to blame the US and Western ideals. You can go to Hell with those lies. If you want to try to argue from the facts, bring them on.

      "You people judge them with your westernized parameters."

      Correct.

      "It's just purely, simply wrong to do so."

      Why? Islam is based on lies that foment murder. Of course we judge them by Western standards of reason and critical analysis. Any other way leads to madness, as the media has revealed.

  • Malcom

    Äppeasers of the world unite ! A politician in Australia asked "should we limit the rate of Moslem emmigration", reponded No but maybe we should pause, while those that are here integrate. THAT'S the problem. They DON'T!

  • Toecutter

    I’ll listen to the Islamic world about their ‘hurt’ when a Christian church is allowed to open in Saudi Arabia. But we all know that will never happen.

    Never the twain shall meet in a world of lies, liars, Bolshevist cretins, professional deceivers and their suit-coated apologists.

  • chowching259

    Funding of the Muslim world must end, that precious money can be used to fatten the wallets of American consumers. Muhammad lived on camels milk so can his followers. Plentiful camel milk is the answer to a Muslims prayer; it can nourish a billion believers. The return of camel herding in the greater Middle-East will end dependence on US dollars.

    • Kufar Dawg

      Don't forget the healthy camel urine, muhamMAD recommended!

  • http://www.facebook.com/docky.musicy Docky Musicy

    I would convince my son to change his name to Obama if Black-man Obama took on and k i l l e d islam.
    I’d re-vote for him and i’d also vote for him to be the
    President of the World if he smashes islam.
    Smashing islam is a thinking man’s job and Black-man Obama is a smart guy….
    a real thinker….and will have to provisionally think like moremad to smash moremad.
    Simple.
    Obama would be the most loved name on Planet Earth.
    A good factual TV speech should make everyone see the light .
    The Black-Man Obama Light.
    The Black-man Obama light that lit up and extinguished dark and dense islam forever and ever and saved the human race.
    If Black-man Obama smashes islam Black people all over the globe would rise several notches in everyone’s minds….global is the word…
    Black men would commander respect for the smashing of islam. Super !!
    This one will be for the planet’s real history books.
    Cool.

  • http://www.facebook.com/docky.musicy Docky Musicy

    There is no real islamic country
    on the planet.
    I repeat ….There is no real Islamic country
    on the planet.
    There is nothing like an
    islamic country.
    Just because some dick started
    a robber cult by fooling and s l a u g h t er i n g some of the unsuspecting natives big
    time and declares himself the world’s top-dog robber-god doesn’t mean that saudi arabia became his….and his top-dog robber-god headquarters. Islam is a frigging forced upon
    cult a robber cult with no scruples and no honor or regret and shame. Just like
    the mental and sadistic leader. Islam should be evacuated from the planet.
    ‘Dis-respect’ or even question anything in islam, and any ‘good Muslim-zombies’ anywhere can kill you….WOW man…. What a religion of WAR and KILLING.
    I think the word DRONE comes from the slang for the sound that Islamic and Arabic sounds like when spoken or heard. Now it’s droning over their heads. A good muslim-zombie is factually a very evil person. My dear dudes…..We got to cull and eradicate islam.Not talk to islam.

    Enough with this islam-nonsense. Afganistan is a Buddhist country, Pakistan is
    a Hindu country, Saudi-arabia is a jewish country, Bangladesh is a Hindu
    country, Iran is a Zoroastrian country, Malaysia is a hindu country….etc.etc.etc. Muslim-zombies have to re-convert and re-connect to the religion of their peaceful and harmonious ancestors prior to their unfortunate meeting with moremad-the-dirty arab
    and his gang of violent morons and their hate filled violent actions and
    thoughts. "Non-stop violent and dirty thoughts islam is" Yoda would say.
    islam is no religion and any self respecting cult would rather throw up than be compared to islam. Islam stands alone in it’s own v o m i t .
    “Filth islam is” Yoda would say.
    The arabs will have to become jews. …because the arabs were jews too
    who lived in the desert before moremad-the-dirty-arab came charging with madness and started
    slapping the oldies and the women around. Fantastic.

    Just because some dick heads
    with swords came by and started their hooligan madness and b l o o d violence and
    scared everybody’s ancestors into the cult by basically hijacking
    their children’s minds does not give islam any right to live in Saudi Arabia
    anymore. Saudi Arabia isn’t a country: it’s a Royal Family with ca. 10 million servants of varying class.All this desert bull has to be stopped. Islam has to be taught and
    explained to why it shouldn’t live. Once and for all.
    Islam has to be banned
    and mass proper mental schooling has to done on each and every muslim-zombies by force if need be….. Within 3
    generations this will be a fantastic planet. Everybody will be schooled and
    nobody can blame islam for their idiotic and violent and absurd actions and
    thoughts. Islam has to be forgotten. This is the Planet Marshall plan. An Intelligent-redesign . What say you ?

  • http://www.facebook.com/docky.musicy Docky Musicy

    The Deeply islamic Card-Carrying islamic mullah from Pakistan who gently and righteously tore and burnt the Koran is a WorldHero….. guided gently and rightly by allah or moremad-the-dirty-arab he was shown the righteous and islamic way to tear apart and burn the koran. Cool. This is a good start…..allah is gently and rightly showing the world that it's cool to destroy the koran. This Deeply Islamic Card-Carrying Islamic mullah from Pakistan who tore and burnt the Koran should be released from police custody asap and should be given a noble prize and continuous free world travel to show the planet's people how to gently and righteously tear and burn the koran.
    This is the next step of islam…burning after reading the koran whenever one comes across any koran however beautiful and stylishly written….you got to burn it bro…allah guided us so. It has be the right thing to do …….gently guided by allah and moremad-the-dirty arab. Tock tock tock tock your forehead on the ground now and wait for the next revelation from allah…coming soon to any Islamic country near you.

    This Deeply Islamic Card-Carrying Islamic mullah from Pakistan who tore and burnt the Koran is truly a great muslim-zombies-man. Factually he should be given a beautiful marble statue that shows his tearing the koran and next to him in a series of 2 there should be a second beautiful marble statue of him burning the koran. It would look so lovely replicated in most town squares all over the globe as a super tribute to the first man after moremad-the-dirty-arab showing the world and all his fellow muslim-zombies how to rightly and gently tear and burn all the Korans that they ever come across. There will be strongman shows on tv for and of people claiming they can tear a koran in seconds flat for cash rewards ofcourse. Whatever he did allah showed This Deeply Islamic Card-Carrying Islamic mullah from Pakistan who tore and burnt the Koran rightly and verily so now he must show the world how allah guided him rightly to tear and burn the koran. Everyone and their dogs want to do it too. YESS !!! YESS !!! YESS !!! PAKISTAN IS SHOWING THE WAY OF HOW korans SHOULD BE BURNT properly and allah-guided. This Deeply Islamic Card-Carrying Islamic mullah from Pakistan who allah guided gently to tear and burn the Koran should be invited to the UN for a jam-packed audience from around the world…tribal-heads should be invited too…. we should call this guy moremad-the-dirty arabtoo. Aaahhh……PAKISTAN….The Land of The Pure…..pure muslim-zombies….pure thugs……all muslim-zombies.
    There are so many mozzys on this planet daily that now you can factually see them from space…..i’m sure…..and the b l o o d-stain too….archealogically the islam-bloodstain has only been around for just a mere 1400 years. Time to can it!!..

    Afganistan was a peaceful and fantastic buddhist country till islam slimed in with green flags and dirty rivers of blood and arabic. The planet should invite the Great Dalai Lama to return to his true Buddhist country of his roots pre-islam. Afganistan should be given back to the buddhists who were forcibly ejected or slain by islam in the pre-koran burning age.
    Afganistan should henceforth be called GreaterTibet.

    Do all the planet's muslim-zombies even know the ultimate islamic-allahpeace-truth??
    Moremad-the-dirty arab’s LAST dying words lovingly recorded by his illiterate tribe…"Until The Last Koran Has Been Burnt And Last Emir Is Hanged By The Entrails Of The Last Imam……There Will Be No Peace On Earth".
    eh you muslim-zombies please do your own dirty work…get busy. Like asap !!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/docky.musicy Docky Musicy

    A lament from the times of islam’s birth in all the minds of people who knew and currently know that islam has come too close for their own good. Islam was started only because moremad-the-dirty-arab wanted to be richer faster and without any morals….moremad-the-dirty-arab is showing today's italian and any mafia types how to do it right…..even the Italian mafia will be talking guttural-arabic soon…anyway…..

    i Curse this world,
    i curse this time,
    i curse this fate of mine that uncivilized and never to be civilised arabs have come to make me and my loving and free and laughing family into dirty surly and gutter-uncouth savage muslim-zombies like themselves.

    And savages they are….if we can’t call a savage a savage and a mad man a mad man one of these days very soon they’ll come and tell us to call muslim-zombies humans and believe that islam a religion. Just imagine muslim-zombie man….but muslim-zombie-man can't imagine not because muslim-zombie-man’s not John Lennon but because moremad-the-dirty-arab said don't imagine…..what will happen to your children if you don't get out from a robber's dirty religion that is factually a cult ! What will you tell your children ? Will you tell them i know it's very wrong but moremad-the-dirty-arab said so , so it is right. You're f-ing mad !! And a coward….muslim-zombie-man. ….First denounce and trounce islam then talk. A B or C islam . islam is islam and stop trying to tell us there is some nice islam. Moremad was a sadistic psycho and islam belongs to him. You are one of his zombies. So Shut The Fk Up muslim zombie. Fool your own children and women and stay away from me and my family and friends. UNDERSTOOD ???!!!!