American Jewry’s Cherished Values


Originally published in The Jerusalem Post.

Decades ago, the sociographer Milton Himmelfarb coined the aphorism that “American Jews earn like Episcopalians and vote like Puerto Ricans.” And his words ring as true today as ever. Surveys show that roughly 70 percent of American Jews intend to cast their ballots for President Barack Obama’s reelection next month.

Himmelfarb’s quip indicated that American Jews abjure their economic interests in favor of their liberal values. Certainly it is true that for American Jews to vote for Obama next month they must act against their economic interests.

Obama’s economic policies have taken a huge toll on the economic fortunes of American Jews who invest disproportionately in the stock market. His nationalization of the college loan business has given universities impetus to raise tuition rates still further, thus dooming more young American Jews to start their adult lives under a mountain of debt. And it isn’t at all clear how they will be able to pay off this debt since under Obama half of recent college graduates cannot find jobs.

Obama’s gutting of Medicare to pay for Obamacare has harmed the medical choices for older Jewish Americans.

His war on tax deductions for charitable contributions has placed synagogues, Jewish schools and nursing homes in financial jeopardy.

So with economics ruled out as a reason to support Obama we are left with American-Jewish values.

But is Obama really advancing those values? What are those values anyway? Well, there’s civil liberties.

American Jews like those. But Obama doesn’t.

Take freedom of speech. Obama is the most hostile president to freedom of speech in recent memory. He has advocated implementing the so-called “fairness doctrine” for radio to stifle the free speech of his political opponents on talk radio.

He has sought to undermine the freedom of the Internet through federal regulations and intimidation of Internet companies such as Google.

He has made repeated and outspoken attempts to intimidate individuals, groups and businesses including Google to bar freedom of speech as relates to criticism of Islam. He has purged the lexicon of the federal government of all terms necessary to describe jihad, Islamic radicalism and terrorism, and so made it impossible for federal employees to examine, investigate, discuss or understand the nature of the greatest national security threat facing the US.

Then there are women’s rights. American Jews like those.

True, Obama has distinguished himself as the greatest ally of abortion-on-demand ever. He even supported infanticide of babies who survived abortions when he served in the Illinois legislature.

But, we women are a bit more than reproductive machines.

We also work and raise families. And Obama’s economic programs hurt women as much if not more than they hurt men.

Aside from that, there are females who live outside of the US.

American Jews have long been outspoken champions of women’s rights around the world. But here Obama’s record is arguably worse than any president in US history.

Obama has abandoned the women most at risk of gender-based discrimination, rape and murder – the women and girls of the Muslim world. Whereas the Bush administration liberated the women and girls of Afghanistan from the maniacally misogynist Taliban regime, the Obama administration is negotiating with the Taliban and setting the conditions for its return to power. If the signature image of the Bush administration’s war in Afghanistan was that of women voting, the signature image of Obama’s war in Afghanistan is the photo of 14-year-old Malala Yousafzai. This week Yousafzai was shot in the head by the Taliban in Pakistan for her defense of the right of girls to go to school.

Then there is the cause of good governance. American Jews like that.

But here, too, Obama fails to live up to liberal values of clean politics. Every day seems to bring with it another scandal related to the Obama administration.

This week we learned that the Obama campaign is illegally soliciting funds from foreigners.

According to a report published by the Government Accountability Institute, some 20% of visitors to the Obama campaign’s fund-raising site “my.barackobama.com” are foreigners, barred by US law from contributing to political campaigns. So, too, the Obama.com website was registered by Robert Roche, a US businessman living in Shanghai with ties to Chinese state-owned companies. Roche is an Obama campaign bundler. Sixty-eight percent of the traffic on the site comes from foreign users. Obama.com is currently managed by a Palestinian rights activist in Maine.

Finally, there is the cause of Israel and US-Israel relations that American Jews are assumed to care about.

After the fiasco at the Democratic National Convention when the widespread antipathy for Israel raging in the Democratic Party was broadcast on primetime television, the Obama administration has stopped even trying to hide its contempt for the Jewish state and its American Jewish supporters.

Whereas the US refused to walk out of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s obscene address to the UN General Assembly last month, US Ambassador Susan Rice chose to absent herself entirely from Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu’s address before the body.

Adding insult to injury, last week Obama appointed Salam al-Marayati to represent the US at the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe’s annual 10-day human rights conference. Marayati is the founder and executive director of the Muslim Public Affairs Committee. As Robert Spencer recalled this week, on September 11, 2001, Marayati gave an interview to a Los Angeles radio station accusing Israel of being responsible for the jihadist attacks on the US.

He is an outspoken supporter of Hamas and Hezbollah.

And Obama appointed him to represent America at a major human rights conference.

So what is it that drives over two-thirds of American Jews to support Obama? The only issues that come easily to mind are social issues – particularly the two flagship causes of American Jews these days – abortion and homosexual marriage.

While it is true that Obama shares their positions on these issues, it is hard to believe that these two issues have become the cri du coeur of more than two-thirds of American Jews.

It isn’t that it is wrong for people to support abortions on demand and homosexual marriage. And it isn’t wrong for people to oppose them. There are reasonable, Jewish arguments to be made for a woman’s right to abort her unborn children. But there are also reasonable Jewish arguments for constraining that right. There are Jewish arguments in favor of permitting homosexuals to wed. And there are Jewish arguments opposing such unions.

Then there is the relative urgency of the issues. With the US economy in a rut and American national security increasingly imperiled, are abortion rights and gay marriage really the American Jewish community’s top priorities?

True, there are some American Jewish fanatics who are propelled to near violence when faced with opponents of their beliefs. And they are capable of intimidating a large proportion of their fellow Jews into toeing their extremist lines. Their intolerance has been on display in all of its ugliness at synagogues around the US since the start of the election campaign. In one recent, outrageous incident, one gay marriage partisan managed to intimidate his congregation on Erev Yom Kippur.

On the most sacred evening on the Jewish calendar, at Anshe Emet synagogue in Chicago, congregant Gary Sircus led other congregants in walking out of services when, in keeping with synagogue protocol (and common courtesy), Rabbi Michael Siegel acknowledged the presence of US Rep. Michele Bachmann in the audience.

After staging the walkout, Sircus went home and began an online assault on Bachmann and on his synagogue for extending the outspoken and stalwart supporter of Israel the courtesy of acknowledging her presence at services.

Sircus wrote a letter of support to Jim Graves, Bachmann’s deep-pocketed Democratic opponent in her reelection campaign. In it, he referred to Bachmann as “this evil woman.”

Rabbi Siegel did not decry Sircus for his shocking behavior. Speaking to the Chicago Tribune Siegel said, “I am aware of the fact that our congregation’s policy in regards to [welcoming public officials to the community and honoring their presence] clearly caused pain to some members of our community on the most precious day of reconciliation on the Jewish calendar. That we regret deeply.”

In a letter of explanation to synagogue board members, Siegel spoke of the need to welcome visitors even if they don’t share the community’s “values.”

But when did the members of Anshe Emet take a vote to determine that support for gay marriage is their shared value?

Undoubtedly, Sircus’s success in embarrassing his entire community owed in part to his willingness to intimidate his fellow congregants with his moralistic sanctimony on Erev Yom Kippur.

But it isn’t only gay marriage champions who use intimidation tactics to silence their communities into conforming with their views. American Jewish Democratic partisans have taken a leading role in blocking dissenting voices from their midst.

For instance, this past May B’nai Emet Congregation in Boca Raton, Florida, invited Amb. Susan Rice to address the congregation. Synagogue officials not only rejected offers to have Rice debate opponents of Obama’s treatment of Israel. They barred community members known for their opposition to Obama from attending the speech. For these synagogue officials, the idea that their partisan prejudice might be challenged was simply unacceptable.

To be fair, there are some American Jews who have been willing to approach politics with an open mind. For instance, Susan Crown, of the Chicago-based Henry Crown business empire, has transferred her support from Obama to Mitt Romney.

In an interview with Chicago Magazine Crown explained that she switched candidates last May when Obama gave his speech calling on Israel to withdraw from Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria and contract to within the indefensible 1949 armistice lines. Crown said that her switch was due as well to economic and foreign policy considerations.

Crown’s arguments for transferring her support from Obama to Romney are all rational. On the other hand, the positions taken by the likes of Sircus and the management of B’nai Emet are emotional and unthinking.

Unfortunately, the polls indicate that more than two-thirds of American Jews are with the synagogue bullies at B’nai Emet and with Sircus, not with Crown.

For 70% of American Jews, party loyalty trumps all of their conceivable rational interests. For them, partisan loyalty is more important than facts. They do not want to use independent judgment. They just want to be Democrats.

The most disturbing aspect of the surveys of American Jewish voters is not that they are willing to vote for the most hostile US president Israel has ever experienced in order to remain true to their party. The most disturbing aspect of the American Jewish community’s devotion to Obama and the Democrats is that it indicates that the vast majority of American Jews have abandoned their faculties for independent thought and judgment in favor of conformism and slavish partisanship. They have rendered themselves unreachable.

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  • Avigayil

    There are no Jewish arguments for allowing gay marriage. The Torah calls homosexuality "toeiva", which means an abomination, in the same category as incest and bestiality. Jewish law requires abortion if the mother's life is at stake and and can allow it on a case-by case basis (especially during the first 40 days) for legitimate physcal and/or mental health reasons.

    The real problem is that most American Jews' values have little to do with Judaism. They don't care about what the Torah says about homosexuality and they don't care about the parameters that Judaism sets on abortion. They pick and choose which parts of Judaism work with their leftist, secular views and discard the rest.

  • Avigayil

    For example Judaism does endorse women's rights. Women are neither property nor sex objects and are are deserving of being treated with unconditional respect. However, according to Judaism, women should also be reasonably modest in dress and behavior in order to help to facilitate this.

    Another example: Judaism requires that communities help the poor. Even the poor should help those less fortunate that themselves. However, success and industry are encouraged; property rights are strictly enforced. A person is required to do all that he or she can to avoid becoming a public burden. It is considered a higher form of charity to help a person to stand on his or her own two feet.

    Modesty and economic responsiblility are as much Jewish values as women's rights and charity. They're not opposites according to Judaism, but work hand -in-hand to create balance. You only, however only observe the majority of American Jews to be behind the last two because they are are in line with leftist ideology.

  • PaulRevereNow

    With "friends" like Gary Sircus and Rabbi Michael Siegel, the American Jewish community doesn't need enemies. One wonders if the "non-partisan" and quite phony Rabbi Siegel, would have felt the "pain" of conservative members of Anshe Emet, if Jim Graves or Barney Frank or Chuckie Schumer had been present. Siegel is a coward, and Sircus is a lunatic. Unfortunately, behaviors like theirs are all too common among the American Jewish community. A typical response from them is "Obama is Israel's friend. He gave Israel the Iron Dome." This is easy to refute, but any criticism of Obama, however accurate, will invaribaly draw their hostility down on the speaker.

  • Joel

    Years ago an Israeli woman smothered her young child under the extreme duress of a terrorist attack, http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2008/07/mother-a…. And now Jews side with a president who endorses live birth abortion on demand. Go figure. On the one hand you have a mother who only wanted to save her young child but tragically fails and in the other you have women who wish to abort their own child just somewhat younger than Yael. What is the embryo, fetus, neonate for such proponents of abortion? A speck of dirt, a parasite is what one woman recently declared in conversation. Meanwhile Obama's liberal policies may not only abort the embryo, fetus and neonate, but Israel too and then YOU. YES YOU ARE IN LINE TOO!!!

  • PaulRevereNow

    …and what would Gary Sircus' response have been if Obama had started death camps and deportations for American Jews? Just look at American Jewry's tepid response to the Holocaust. Sircus would have said, "Hitler is a nice man. He will not hurt us."

    • Soylent Green

      Well, it woudn't be the first time that the Jewish nation's suicidal ideation has caused them to choose the wrong man, i.e. Barabbas, Hitler, Stalin,.. Obama.

    • Choi

      Sircus ,who created a sacreligious CIRCUS by walking out on Yom Kippur,would show up at the collection point and happily get on the cattle train chanting "Yes We Can!",especially if Obama was there to smile and see him off.

  • WildJew

    Caroline wrote: "It isn’t that it is wrong for people to support abortions on demand and homosexual marriage. And it isn’t wrong for people to oppose them…."

    Maybe from a secular-humanist point of view neither is right or wrong but from a Jewish point of view? I do not see how Jews can argue from the "written" Torah (law of Moses) that either abortion on demand or homosexual marriage are OK to support.

  • Fred

    I warned my fellow Jews not to vote for this Muslim Jew Hating Jerk but they would not listen. Are they nuts? Unbelievable and blind. The once great Democratic Party is now controlled by radical leftist who hate Jews and Israel. I try to spread the word as best I can. They have taken over the media and that is why they get away with what they are doing.

    This jerk sat in "Rev" Wright's "church" for over 20 years listening to hate and Jews voted for him.

    • EthanP

      You say what I've been saying for the last 4 years.

  • Bert

    We must recognize that most American Jews are not only secular but largely ignorant of Judaism and Jewish history. I see the sad results of this in my own community. In addition to deep ignorance there is a mystical factor at work. It seems that diaspora Jews with much freedom and little knowledge are like cut flowers that wilt when removed from the soil. Judaism is a religion involving a people and a land. The major trend in our history is the eventual return of Jews back to Israel. Those left behind will gradually wither and assimilate. In the process they will turn sour, hostile and bitter while using their Jewish ancestry as a superficial identity to advance a non-Jewish agenda. Recall that under Stalin, who murdered some 20 million Russians, he still had his secular Jewish storm troopers who eagerly volunteered to destroy Judaism in Russia. There seems to be a quality about Judaism where the faithful are sane and highly evolved while the extremely secular become detached from reality and self destructive. I wish that the sane and faithful minority would help define the term Jew to exclude the ignorant and the hateful.

  • Jon Dyson

    As always Caroline writes a thoughtful article. But an absolutely critical aspect needed to explain continued Jewish support for Obama is this:

    As well as supporting the liberal wing of US politics in and around the Democratic Party, the bulk of US Jewry belongs to the liberal Reform or Progressive wings of Judaism. Overwhelmingly, this well-established liberal constituency prefers liberal win-win solutions to conflicts. This strongly propels them towards support for the idea of a win-win '2-State Solution' to the Arab-Israeli conflict whereby two states for two peoples will bring an end to the conflict.

    Sadly for this admirable perspective, Iran, Hezbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas and the PA are not liberals. Nor are they even remotely inclined towards a liberal win-win solution. The exact opposite is the case. In reality, the domination of non-western, non-democratic and non-liberal attitudes among Palestinian/Arab/Muslims consistently rejects all Jewish national rights and claims. This transforms what liberal advocates of the '2-State Solution' believe ought to be a win-win conflict into a zero sum/winner takes all conflict instead.

    This is almost impossible for many advocates of win-win solutions to comprehend. That the desire for an amicable compromise is not at all considered 'natural' by everyone is outside their comprehension.

    The basic reason is this. In the west, the well-established and widely accepted method for resolving disputes is through peaceful negotiations and the search for solutions based on mutual rights and interests. This is now so ingrained that many simply cannot comprehend a mentality that rejects such a reasonable approach that by extension 'ought' to be suitable for everyone.,

    This means that they find it hard to take seriously the fanaticism and intransigence of the dominant Palestinian/Arab/Muslim narrative that totally rejects any deal that would leave Israel intact and refuses to accept the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish state with secure borders.

    For the liberal mind this fanaticism is incomprehensible and unbelievable. Instead, with the help of sections of the mainstream mass media, with its own ideological and political biases, it is in all essentials denied. It's much easier to blame Israel. By contrast, here in Israel, such delusions and confusion can be fatal.

    For more comment and analysis, see my blogsite at http://www.arguments4israel.blogspot.com which presents a stream of arguments designed to combat such faulty and dangerous thinking.

  • BS77

    Liberals, including leftist liberal Jewish voters, walk towards the voting booths like lemmings. They would vote for a rotten turnip if it ran as a Democrat.

  • Schlomotion

    I think it is appalling that Ms. Glick chooses to view American politics and American elections solely through the racist lens of how it benefits Jews. This is identity politics par excellence. This kind of hyphenated-American politics takes us back several decades. Isn't it enough that Ms. Glick moved to a more racially pure all-Jewish country and can vote for right wing Jewish xenophobes in her own new country? Must she also exhort Americans to view life through this lens as well?

    • Lan Astaslem

      Glick really pushes your muzzlim buttons huh shmomuslim?

    • Joel
      • Drakken

        That POS is not aryan, he is a full on America hater and muzzy supporter, sympathizer and leftist scumbag.

    • Pontotoc Bill

      I think it is appaling that you, SchloMo, come here to denigrate American politics and American values.

      Your identity politics is in line with the IslamoFascists.

    • Ghostwriter

      I'll bet you click your heels every time you write something here,don't you,Schlomind?

    • old Morris

      Schlomo , you don'T understand democracy and what it is to be an American and a Jew . Ms. Glick has a perfect right to be both a citizen of the Israeli State and be still an American citizen and she is a good one because she is concerned about American and Israeli future .
      Ms. Glick has the right to be a conservative and write about her opinions as you are to be a Socialist or any kind of leftist Jew and a Jew hater , One that envisions an Israel with an Arab majority as if there isn't enough Arab nations that do not allow for any other than Muslims . Talk of racism look unto your eyes .

      • Schlomotion

        You're right. In the 39 years I have lived as a natural born American citizen, I have never participated in a democracy, considered what it means to be American or met any Jews. I slept through Boy Scouts. I have been watching Nickelodeon for the past two decades and eating cottage cheese. An Israeli halfhearted expatriate has cornered the market on experience in all the fundamental categories of Westernism. Can she make me a peanut butter sandwich? I can't figure out how to use bread.

        • Choi

          So in other words, you're a homegrown JEW-HATING POS!

    • Neils60

      Schlomo, You throw out your garbage, "that Ms. Glick chooses to view American politics and American elections solely through the racist lens of how it benefits Jews." However, you provide zero evidence of same. I know that, that's your style. But, just once, it would be nice if you'd provide some back-up for your predictable scurrilous attacks in this forum.

      • Schlomotion

        Dude, I am not going to link you back to this same article. Use the wheel.

    • dionissismitropoulos

      Schlomotion 97p

      "I think it is appalling that Ms. Glick chooses to view American politics and American elections solely through the racist lens of how it benefits Jews".

      I believe that this is an unfair accusation.

      Her article, as the title makes clear, is concerned with why American Jews support Obama.
      She is not arguing that the impact on Israel should be the only important concern for all American voters.
      She is arguing that the impact on Israel should be the most important concern for American Jews.
      This is a legitimate claim, considering that Obama has all but acquiesced to a nuclear Iran, which certainly presents an existential threat to Israel.

      I am neither American nor Jewish, but if i had the chance i would vote for the GOP, despite my support for legal abortions and gay marriages.

      The threat of annihilation of an innocent nation such as Israel should be the deciding consideration in this election, not just for Jews but also for anyone concerned with the prospect of Holocaust #2.

      • Choi

        "
        I am neither American nor Jewish, but if i had the chance i would vote for the GOP, despite my support for legal abortions and gay marriages.

        The threat of annihilation of an innocent nation such as Israel should be the deciding consideration in this election, not just for Jews but also for anyone concerned with the prospect of Holocaust #2. "

        If only you could vote,LEGALLY..
        The Democrats will be voting plenty of voters no more entitled to LEGALLY vote than you.

  • Moishe Pupick

    Monday, 10/15/12 common era

    Reform "Judaism" pushes these liberal, anti-Torah values. Reform "Judaism" is a product of the French Enlightenment and was designed to reduce or even eliminate antisemitism by making Jewish religious practices more like Protestant Christian ones. This was all concocted in dear old Deutschland.

    • Choi

      And YET,when Hitler and the Nazis came along,the "assimilated" Reformed German Jews were the FIRST VICTIMS in what was to become The Holocaust.

  • Western Spirit

    The Jews like the Christians have lost their faith, for the most part. Yet it was the morals found in the mutual values of these two faiths that have worked to make this a moral nation, under God, and preserve our freedom.

    Like ancient Israel our God's are many and our faith is conflated with secular values making us ripe for conquest by the barbarians of this age—Islam.

  • Western Spirit

    We're so secular the truth no longer has the value it once had. So we deny the truth, and not it's not just the Jews denying the truth, and have submitted to delusion so much so we won't even name our enemy or what that enemy is doing to us to destroy us.

    Naturally the end of this path leads to our defeat. Because denial is fatal to our best interest.

    As a famous Jew, Jesus, once said, "the truth will set us free."

    That's how important the moral value of being truthful is. But as a poster to this site once said Jesus wasn't a Jew, He was a Galilean and we were all lying saying that He was a Jew. in fact, Jesus was a Jew who lived in Galilee.

    So along with lost faith and morals we have to deal with extreme ignorance as well.

    • Mr. Polly

      There's no way to say whether Jesus was a Jew without at least defining the ill-defined term "Jew."

  • EthanP

    It's not only our/Jewish economic interests. Any Jew who does not recognize the Obama administrations hostility to Israel, as well as other traditional US interests, has blinders on. There is only one issue on which I give total loyalty. As long as US security is not threatened, I vote for the pro Israel line. This has not previously been a problem. But the current POTUS and his cronies have demonstrated they are not Israels friend. Or am I the only one who's noticed this president has offended and/or betrayed our allies and supported the rise of Islamist governments whom are all calling for the extinction, not only Israel, but the worlds Jews.

  • Michael Garfinkel

    I admire Caroline Glick, but in this case I would suggest a contrary premise.

    Caroline presents the argument that American Jews cherish traditional liberal values, such as civil liberties, women's rights, First Amendment rights, etc., and she demonstrates quite clearly that in each case Obama's positions are antithetical to the values that inform these rights.

    Now, since it appears that most Jews will again support Obama, Caroline avers that although "there are some American Jewish fanatics who are propelled to near violence when faced with opponents of their beliefs," what is really at play is – " conformism and slavish partisanship. They have rendered themselves unreachable."

  • Michael Garfinkel

    Of course, she's right about "Jewish fanatics." I remember a Jewish acquaintance who would not ride in the same car with me to an anti-war demonstration in 1970, when I acknowledged a lingering affection for the memory of JFK. And I will never forget the indignant departure of a Jewish woman at a dinner party when I remarked that I did not think the removal of Sadam Husein from Iraq was a bad thing.

    We've all been there, haven't we?

    If the majority of American Jews are unreachable – and I believe this is the case, it begs the question; how deep is their commitment, how dearly do they cherish traditional liberal values? Obviously, not very much.

    Under stress, people revert to and employ more primitive impulses. Slavish conformity? Certainly, but conformity to the impulses of arrogance, resentment, and self-aggrandizing presumption, so endemic on the Left, point to a shallow investiture in classic liberalism in the first place.

    In short, we have met the enemy, and he is us.

  • Karl Stein

    Thank you Western Spirit for your words of truth. I pray every day that the American Jew separates themselves from the robotic attachment to the Democratic Party, which has left them, and think also of their obligation to the survival of fellow Jews in Israel. Their blind support of the Democrats and Obama might cause the death of millions of Jews in Israel to which they will each be personally responsible. Many of these hard heads have forgotten the Holocaust. I have not. May God bless us and this country.

  • dennis gaeta

    I have known Rabbi Segal for 22 years. I go to srvices there whenever i am in chgo. I am appalled at the disrespect shown to Bachmann and Rabbi S. Bachmsnn is a huge defender of Israel in congress and that is all i need to know. She should be welcome with open arms. Any jew who sees it otherwise is a moron.

  • watsa46

    Obama has taken advantage of the elderly because they are old and easy to manipulate. If AARP supports Obama it will lose a lot of members.
    American Jews are selfish and dumb enough to consider socialism as their best bet. They will be losers.
    It is important to understand that democrat (US meaningless term = socialist (in Europe).
    Americans MUST look across the Atlantic to see what is in reserve for them if they select Obama.

    • Tatyana Solovey

      watsa, you are right – BIG TIME!Thank you for the great response.
      Former refugee from former USSR nightmare.

  • watsa46

    The attitude of the majority of American Jews towards the Jews of the holocaust ('38-'45) is not much different from their attitude towards today IL. They hide behind the US flag!

  • Drakken

    These very same 70% would be the ones that walked into the gas chambers without so much as a wim
    per, not quite believing that the guy with the funny mustache meant what he said. These 70% will let the muslims slaughter them without a whisper of protest and still believe that they don't mean what they say. To be perfectly frank, I don't have much sympathy for people who go to their own deaths willingly.

  • danseagull

    BARACK OBAMA GOT MY VOTE IN 2008 ; I'M A LIFELONG DEMOCRAT ; MITT ROMNEY WILL GET MY VOTE IN 2012 ; BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE AMERICA SURVIVE !

    • aspacia

      danseagull,

      I was a 52 year life-long Dem. too until Murtha and Durban's seditious comments about our troops being terrorists and Kerry snide remarks about our military. I love my freedoms, and hate the fascism encroaching on my land.

  • WilliamJamesWard

    Two key factors, abortion and gay marriage, if these are two perfervid ambitions of
    todays American Jewery, it is key to the disinfranchisement of Biblical Truth and
    Blessings which foreshadow greater peril as was in days of old when Jerusalem
    was destroyed. Jeremiah may weep again with abandon…………….William

  • Gnner57

    Caroline, I always supported you. NO LONGER.

    "It isn’t that it is wrong for people to support abortions on demand and homosexual marriage. And it isn’t wrong for people to oppose them. There are reasonable, Jewish arguments to be made for a woman’s right to abort her unborn children."

    • aspacia

      Gnner,

      This is a free land, and citizens are entitle to their opinions, and I agree with Glick on these two issues.

  • Prof. L. Wessell

    Just a note: Much of what Jews can do or do or not is beyond my non-Jewish competence. E.g., whether Jews can argue for or against abortion leaves me indifferent because I argue against abortion on moral grounds, ones independent of any religion (though influenced by Christianity). So, silence is the highest wisdom for me. This note is presented in part not as an act of reflection on my part, rather as the "reporter" in me. I first read the article in The Jerusalem Post and was shocked at the comments by Israeli Jews relative to the evaluation of Obama. Glick's criticism was basically refused. Indeed, some of the comments boardered on vulgarity which indicates intensity of feelings, and for Obama. The comments in JP left me with opinion that there is a strong hostility amongst the JP readers to a profound criticism of Obama and the damage he has done to Jewish interests in America, not to speak of the precarious position of Israel. This brings up a question that perhaps Glick, Horowitz or someone else with the knowledge could explain.

    What constitutes Jewish identity? From documentary films I have seen I would say that a religious element is fundamental, namely loyalty to the "Covenant".That element has accompanied Jews through out the centuries.Without this religiosity they would have been assimilated and disappeared. Certainly after WW II and the Nazis, there was a huge element of self-preservation. In Germany even a atheistic Jew, one who hated his former religion, was a "Jew", willy-nilly, and executed. This factor of betrayal by the secular culture has faded surely in the USA. Are these two factors noted correct? What else lends Jews an identity? Is there anything else? I am interested because I wish to understand in general , but also the specific problematic re support of Obama in America. And then the unfriendly Israeli reactions to Glick's article in the JP confuse me. If one subtracts the feeling of potential persecution or annihilation, what is left other than the "Covenant"? Could a third factor be liberalism, viz. leftist orientation to socialist preferences? Frankly, I am confounded by my ignorance.

    I will close this long "note" repeating my fundamental question. What constitutes Jewish identity? My interesst is genuine and motivated in part by an extensive knowledge of what happened in Germany where I now live. Strong Jewish support for Obama reminds me of the faith that many German Jews had in German culture, even in the years of 1933 on. Many German Jews just could not believe the "nazi-jihad" in Hitler's policies and paid for it with their lives.

    • aspacia

      Wessell,

      Many Jews in Israel support Glick's stand. Avoid the fringe Haaretz. Try Ynet and JP, which allows both sides of the argument to air.

  • Prof. L. Wessell

    Just a note: Much of what Jews can do or do or not is beyond my non-Jewish competence. E.g., whether Jews can argue for or against abortion leaves me indifferent because I argue against abortion on moral grounds, ones independent of any religion (though influenced by Christianity). So, silence is the highest wisdom for me. This note is presented in part not as an act of reflection on my part, rather as the "reporter" in me. I first read the article in The Jerusalem Post and was shocked at the comments by Israeli Jews relative to the evaluation of Obama. Glick's criticism was basically refused. Indeed, some of the comments boardered on vulgarity which indicates intensity of feelings, and for Obama. The comments in JP left me with opinion that there is a strong hostility amongst the JP readers to a profound criticism of Obama and the damage he has done to Jewish interests in America, not to speak of the precarious position of Israel. This brings up a question that perhaps Glick, Horowitz or someone else with the knowledge could explain.

  • Prof. L. Wessell

    Pardon the abrupt break off of my comment. It was longer, i.e., it contained a question that I wish to pose for the third time. What constitutes Jewsih identity? I do not comprehend the Jewish support of Obama in the USA and in Israel. Historically, loyalty to the Covenant has bestowed identity on Jews. With the Nazis a factor of survival became accute (though certainly lessened in America). This would be a second factor. Both factors should alienate Jews from Obama, but they do not so so. Is there a socialistic factor (I believe evident within the Zionist movement)? This would explain the American Jewish flirt with a socialistic leaning Obama. I feel confused, particularly by Israeli comments. Could some knowledgeable persorn illuminate me?

    • aspacia

      Some claim it is genetic, some religious. Try The Jewish Virtual Museum for insight or Ask a Rabbi.

      I am a Deist baptized Catholic and raised Episcopalian

  • http://www.facebook.com/david.k.howard David Kimber Howard

    The Jews have long been the most divisive people on the planet. They are anti-Jew, anti-Israel and anti Freedom. The large majority of Jews are socialist and that is their religion and their politics. Socialists in the end game destroy themselves. The minority of Jews are some fine people. May they survive what's coming.