Polling Shenanigans

Daniel J. Flynn is the author of numerous books, including "Blue Collar Intellectuals: When the Enlightened and the Everyman Elevated America," now available from ISI Books. Read Daniel's blog at www.flynnfiles.com.


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Mitt Romney is down in the polls. Mitt Romney’s supporters are down on the polls.

Rush Limbaugh dubbed two outlier polls favorable to the president as “bogus” and “irresponsible.” Dick Morris regards this year’s surveys as “unusually inaccurate.” He explains, “Most pollsters are weighting their data on the assumption that the 2012 electorate will turn out in the same proportion as the 2008 voters did. But polling indicates a distinct lack of enthusiasm for the president among his core constituency.” Breitbart.com’s John Nolte points out that in Florida, where Democrats enjoyed a 3-point advantage four years ago, CBS News/New York Times/Quinnipiac envisions Democrats reaping a 9-point advantage on Election Day. In the rustbelt states of Ohio and Pennsylvania, the CBS News/New York Times/Quinnipiac survey also expects Democrats to vote in heavier numbers than they did in 2008. Nolte explains that “polls are not only telling us that Romney is losing OH, PA, and FL by insurmountable margins; these polls are also telling us that Democrat turnout is projected to blow away every modern record.”

Consider the contrast. In Ohio, Romney either trails by 1 point (Rasmussen Reports) or by 10 (CBS News/New York Times/Quinnipiac). In Iowa, the president leads by 8 (NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist) and trails by 3 (Rasmussen Reports). In Pennsylvania, a Philadelphia Inquirer count put Obama 11 ahead; the Pittsburgh Tribune Review placed Romney two behind. To borrow industry jargon, the polls are not within the margin of error.

Susquehanna Polling & Research, which conducted the much-maligned Pittsburgh Tribune Review poll showing the Keystone State a neck-and-neck race, defended their methodology by noting the 6-point advantage it awarded Democrats within their current Pennsylvania poll, which is down just 1 point from the Democrats’ Election Day take in 2008. The polling group suggests that “perhaps the Phil Inquirer poll showing Obama winning by a bigger margin than he won by four years ago is the real outlier.”

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  • Banastre Tarleton

    The polls are not 100% accurate but they point in the right direction ERGO …..Obama is going to win this election , probably with a greater margin than 4 years ago ; I wish it wasn't so , but it clearly is !
    Obama may be a preening poseur in love with his own reflection but he's also the american idol and the king of cool and he's confidently striding out over the last mile home to decisively win this race ; Romney is just lame
    If Romney is waiting for the debates to shine in this election then he is fatally deluded …the glib , narcissistic poseur is strutting around like a Renaissance Prince infront of his adoring fans and will probably humiliate the angular Romney
    It aint over until it's over …..true enough , but right now it's almost over and will take a full blown miracle to save Willard dullard Romney

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      This is about perception trying to create facts on the ground.

      How many dead people from Chicago will need to vote to make this vote match the polls?

      You do realize in 2010 real voters caught the experts by surprise. Why not this time too?

      • Banastre Tarleton

        Listen birdbrain , it won't even dawn upon you that Romney has lost until Obamy is back in the oval office with his feet upon the desk ,smoking a big cigar and humming hmmm…..hmmmm…….hmmmmmm

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          If you want to stoop to personal insults, I can do that. I'd have to do that really slow with small words, but I can do that.

          But I'd rather stick to issues. It's what adults do, something you might learn at some point.

          Anyhow, I don't like Romney and think he's a fool for letting McCain style people run his campaign badly like they did for McCain. But I am still willing to vote against obamma.

    • Fritz

      If Obama has the election in the bag why bother campaigning? Why does he need to raise 100s of millions for TV, radio, and print ads. If the election is all over and done with with why not just take a vacation for five weeks instead of flying all over the country, after all Romney can't win can he?

  • Banastre Tarleton

    Furthermore , the GOP needs to do some serious soul searching if THIS is the best threy can do ….Obama may be just a deluded lightweight worthy of an academy award but he's eerily in the ''spirit of the times'' , while Willard Mitt Romney is hopelessly anachronistic like someone from a Norman Rockwell painting
    If the GOP hopes to realistically win the next election they 've got to find someone young n hip with charisma and Hollywood star appeal ; a younger , more fashionable Reagan , or a conservative version of Clinton , but someone who is in the zeitgeist , for christsake …..afterall , we really are living in the era of the ''american idol presidency ''

    • guest

      Good god no.

    • Questions

      Bruce Willis? Just a thought.

      • Banastre Tarleton

        If ARNIE had not been born in Austria he would of been about right ; although he doesn't have a silver tongue , he clearly does have Hollywood star appeal ….we are living in a hollywood esk vitual reality where reality and fantasy intertwine ….jeeeeesh Obamy deserves an academy award for his preformance , but like all malignant narcissosts he is going to fly too close to the sun of fame and like Icarus is overdue to crash and burn , but we'''ll have to wait until his second term for that , but it will be a sweet joy to savour the shadenfreud hmm..hmmm…hmmmmmm

    • fflintstone

      This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard,

  • Banastre Tarleton

    '' This is the dawning of the age of Obama '' …the malignant fruit from the seeds of free love in the age of Aquarious
    America has changed radically from 30 years ago as the older generation who fought WW2 and suffered through the depression are replaced by a vacuous generation of uninformed twerps living in a Hollywood-esk virtual reality of trash movies , moronic talk shows and liberal'' soft propaganda ''….these are just the type who created Obama , a product of his environment , a cartoonish caricature and Hollyood creation
    Lets face it , America is no longer a center Right country , but is increasingly becoming center Left and Obama is just merely the confirmation

    • Questions

      "Trash movies" aren't the problem, certainly not the many recent ones lauding our troops in WWII — "Saving Private Ryan," "The Thin Red Line," "Hart's War," "Pearl Harbor," "Windtalkers" and "Flags of Our Fathers."

  • Banastre Tarleton

    Furthermore , the best indicator of this coming election is not the polls but the prediction market at INTRADE where folks like me risk their hard earned cash on predicting an election ; it does tend to concentrate the mind wonderfully when you have real cash to lose instead of just frivilous opinion
    However , as things stand right now it's OBAMA 80% ….ROMNEY 20% and THAT is a far more realistic indicator of the true state of this race… ERGO …poor Romney has about a 20% chance of realistically winning this election , but be advised , don't be seduced by high odds to take a risk and win big or you may just lose every penny

    • Rifleman

      Only a fool bets every penny, but the historic odds are against obama winning with his economic numbers. It's possible, but not likely.

      • tarleton

        Historic odds ? The only way Romney will win will be if Obama gets caught flagrante delicto in a gay bath house or finally admits to being an illegal immigrant from Africa…in otherwords highly unlikely

        • Rifleman

          Dream on, how many times has an incumbent won with an 8.2% unemployment rate?

    • Advenice24

      Dude I agree that Intrade has been very accurate, but not until 2 days before the election. Smart money is late money. Intrade was perfect on the electorial vote Kerry v Bush

      • Banastre Tarleton

        Rubbish …the writing was on the wall six weeks ago …just take a look at their graph

        Well if you buy into Romney you'll really make some dough …GO AHEAD

  • pierce

    Do not sell the american people short, they are not stupid, they know that this is the MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION EVER, or do they. I wonder if they think Obama is the reincarnation of Robin Hood. he wants us to. May be laziness and blasphemy will get you everywhere, but hard work never hurt anyone, if they want to get ahead.

    • tarleton

      I've been down that boulevard of broken dreams once before in the last election when I had faith that the ''so called '' american people would never elect a preening poseur over a true and trusted patriot like J Mccain , but I was horribly wrong and will not make that mistake again …..it's a demographic thing where the older , wiser folks are dying off and being replaced by Hollywood indoctrinated fools…how many senior citizens have died in the last 4 years who were Republicans and how many young idiots have entered the voting age and will vote for Romney ? THIS is part of the so called tipping point , swimming against the tide of history …the future does indeed belong to the young
      The so called Tea Party types are merely the dying remnants of a once mighty fire , raging against the inevitable dying of the lighjt …I wish it wasn't so , but it is

  • rjr

    What a bunch of Debbie Downers. We are still a center right country. There seems to be a segment of the Republican party who are so demoralized. Thank goodness it's a small segment. I do believe that many people voted for Obama in 2008 out of white guilt. I believe that guilt has been assuaged and they won't do the same this year. If Romney loses, and it's a big if cause I think it is highly unlikely that he will, it will be because he has tried to moderate himself to appeal to liberal leaning people. I think people still look at the reality that surrounds them on a daily basis and asks themselves if things are better today than they were 4 years ago and with the exception of Bin Laden being dead, things are much worse. Obama doesn't stand a chance.

    • Questions

      A center-right country? Were it only so. If we truly were center-right, Obama never even would have been nominated, much less elected president in 2008. I'm afraid that as Hispanics and Asians — each group natural Democrats — comprise an ever-larger portion of the electorate, it's going to be harder than ever for a real conservative to win. We Republicans MUST think in terms of race, however nasty the blowback from "anti-racist" Democrats and Republicans alike.

      • rjr

        I disagree. There are many reasons that have been posited as to why Obama was elected from Biden saying he was the first clean, bright, articulate african american (although if you saw the 60 minutes interview I think we can dispense with the articulate blarney. I never heard so many umm's and you knows in my life) to McCain's febrile insitence on treating Obama with kid gloves to avoid being called a racist. I don't think Romney has been doing that.

        I take your point about minority voters growing in number, although I think Asians are pretty evenly divided between right and left. But I don't think we should alter Republican ideals to pander to a minority, we should rather stick to our principles. They have withstood the test of time and with the advent of so many new media sources we can get our message out unemcumbered by liberal bias. There are growing numbers of supposed "Republican gaffes" that the mainstream media has had to walk back because of these new conservative media sources.

    • Ghostwriter

      I also disagree with Questions. If we play the race game,then that will confirm what the left has been saying about us all along. That we're a bunch of racists who will reinstate Jim Crow. We must prove to them that we won't do that. Hopefully,you'll leave Stereotype Land and return to the real world,where not every minority or young person thinks the way the left wants them to.

      • Questions

        You are an utter naif. Blacks, Hispanics, Asians and every other nonwhite group thinks in terms of race. Whites are the only racial groups (unofficially) prohibited from speaking honestly on the subject. And we've paid a heavy price for our timorousness. This has nothing to do with "stereotypes" or "Jim Crow." This is about raising issues that need to be raised. Do you actually believe that blacks in particular don't drive the welfare state, crime or educational underachievement?

        People like you, in a pique of moral unctuousness, are a perfect example of why white conservatives, like white liberals, deep down live in fear of being called "racist." It is a delusion to think that if we "reach out" to blacks, then blacks will reciprocate. The fact is they won't vote for us. We have been reaching out to the blacks ever since Nixon, to no avail. Reaching out to the swing vote (which is almost all-white) is the only realistic way Romney can win.

  • Steve Chavez

    POLL QUESTIONS should be?

    "How do you like the price of gas and who do you blame for that?" The price of gas EFFECTS EVERYONE and it's killing everyone every time they fill up, if they can afford to even do that.

    "You just graduated with an advanced degree and you're working as a waiter. Who do you blame for that?" UNIVERSITIES, which were filled with Obama zombies in 2008, are hard to find these days. They see a bleak future. FOCUS ON THEM.

    "Your parents, and other family members, are having a hard time too. Who do you blame for that?" EVERY FAMILY has a story to tell.

    "You are afraid of losing your job. Who do you blame for that uncertainty?" SOME EMPLOYERS ARE BLACKMAILING their workers by saying "If you don't vote for Obama and the Republicans win, we will lose funding and you will LOSE YOUR JOB." This intimidation is done every election especially when Governors like my former one, BILL RICHARDSON, hired thousands of cronies, who then hired thousands of more cronies, who then hired thousands of more cronies, are dependent on a Democrat win in order to keep their job. Those cronies then tell their family members that if they don't vote for Obama/Democrats "I will lose my job" SCARING THEM TO VOTE THEIR WAY.

    LET THE POLLS CONTINUE TO SHOW OBAMA WINNING, that will make some say, "Why go vote. Obama is winning and he doesn't need my vote." BUT, THE SILENT MAJORITY IS WAKING UP.

    TWO WORDS THAT WILL DEFEAT OBAMA: "I'M SWITCHING." Billboards across America. Commercials. Millions are Obama voters are switching for Romney in greater numbers than McCain voters for Obama. There is also my "25 REASONS: TIME FOR A SWITCH" which can be googled to make other voters realize that they have been conned by the Democrats.

  • amused

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Republicans on Thursday fired a vendor suspected of submitting 108 questionable new voter registrations in Florida's Palm Beach County, ground zero for disputed ballots in 2000's presidential race.

    The Republican Party of Florida used Virginia-based Strategic Allied Consulting to help register and turnout voters in Florida, one of a shrinking handful of states President Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney are contesting. The Florida state party had paid the firm more than $1.3 million so far, and the Republican National Committee used the group for almost $3 million of work in Nevada, North Carolina, Colorado and Virginia.

    " do as I say ,not as I do " ……just sorry they were caught . And what about NE./ NC/ CO/ and VA ????

    • Rifleman

      The GOP fired him for suspicion, which puts them way ahead of the dp, who still accept registration from known defrauders. Nice try though.

      • amused

        sorry pal , I know you have a built-in denial gene , but 108 were fraudulent ., and try ? I dont have to , it's simply a matter if a Republican wins an election ….it's all above board , whereas if a Democrat wins Republicans do their usual WHINING about fraud . …..but you just keep on convincing yourself Rifleman , and watc as those PHONY Republican voter cards get shot down in the courts . And please save that "suspicion crap " for your fellow zombies , all that means is Republicans wont admit it even when their caught redhanded .

        • Rifleman

          Denial? Who showed up with pre-printed signs in Florida dp run district the day after the election and left a confetti storm of chads on the floor of their recount rooms? Amusing is more like it.

    • rjr

      Voter fraud occurs on both sides of the aisle. I don't think anyone on the conservative side has denied that. If you would like a fairly good sampling of such than John Fund's book "Stealing Elections" is something worthwhile to read. There is no doubt that there was significant voter fraud in the 2008 race that elected Al Franken in Minnesota. It seems Republicans are currently the only ones who are concerned about trying to combat it.

      • amused

        heres a statistic for ya , as far as cases of voter fraud in Federal elections . the percentage is .000093 . Ya Man thats real rampant . You're so full of shiit it's coming out your ears . It seems republicans are attempting to suppress the vote , and that is so bloody opaque that only idiot consevatives think they're foolin' anyone .. …and if you believe Frankin got in by Fraud , then your just as dumb as his opponent who carried on like a spoiled brat ….which is what most of you dolts are anyway . Deal with it chump .

        • rjr

          Nowhere in my post do I say voter fraud is rampant. I said it occurs on both sides of the aisle but that currently Republicans are the only ones who seem to want to ameliorate it. There certainly have been democratic inititives in the past to try to combat it but none currently. By voter suppression, I assume you mean primarily asking for id before one can vote. How wrenching. Someone get me some smelling salts. Hardly rises to voter suppression. We require id for too many other things including getting on welfare.

          And yes, there is significant evidence that Franken got in because of the miraculous discovery of absentee ballots. How convenient for him. I've enjoyed every minute of Frankens tenure..particularly watching him take naps at hearings. Very entertaining.

          • Rifleman

            The gratuitous and unprovoked insults at the end are amused's way of saying you won the argument rjr.

  • BS77

    Sick of polls. Every day, the lame stream media keeps telling us the predicted election results…so why bother voting? l. The 24/7 libtard news cycle keeps pressing us with this Orwellian pre programming so the lemming voters will vote according to the polls, or not vote at all, since it's "hopeless". Elections have become so corrupted by the media, huge sums of money and blatant propaganda, only the most investigative voter will be able to make a rational choice. The media ignores nearly fifty million Americans on food stamps, twenty five millijon unemployed, the staggering debts and deficits, the abysmal manufacturing levels of our once vibrant economy, instead focusing on charisma, one liners, quicky sound bytes….and all the usual superficial enticements the liberals use for window dressing. Read Ann Coulter and get educated.

    • TeethVA

      Plus if the polls are saying that it's a done deal. BO is going to win, why is he campaigning furiously in states where he has a so called big lead? The polls will try to discourage contributions and enthusiasm to Romney. In order to keep their reputations intact, they will finally get their equations correct a few days before the election.

      As far as the MSM drive-bys, they have lost any credibility. They are in the bag for BO and it is SO obvious. That's why more and more people are turning to the Internet for their news.

  • BLJ

    These "polls" are total b.s, The MSM is orchestrating this because they know that their boy is in trouble. Yes, I said "boy" because Obama is not a man.

    The Dear Leader cannot run on his piss poor record so the only course of action is to try to put out these bogus poll results. Nice try, but it will not work. Obambi's days are numbered in the WH and he knows it.

    • tarleton

      Rubbish ..the polls were accurate 4 years ago , 8 years ago and pretty much are now ..but slightly in favour of Obama , but the more folks see of Romney the less they like him and the elections still six weeks away

      Four years ago Republicans responded to the Obama victory with the moronic ''birther conspiracy '' and this time it seems to be the '' polls conspiracy '' sheeeeeesh

      • Spider

        Yea – how about Reagan down in the polls 10% below Carter just a few weeks before election day 1980? The results were a 49 state Reagan Landslide. OOOOOOPSSS…

        • dennis x

          It's a conspiracy that even fax news is a part of.

        • Loyal Achates

          WTF are you talking about?

        • amused

          Alfred E.Newman could have beat Carter . Bad Comparison ….but keep wiishing .

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And Carter could beat Obama, at least when he's not on teleprompter.

        • Questions

          You're a bit off on your facts, Spider-Man.

          First of all, Reagan had caught up with Carter around Labor Day. That's two months, not "a few weeks," before the election. And while it's true he built up a good lead by early October, he LOST that lead by the time the one and only televised debate took place, one week before Election Day. Reagan outclassed Carter in that debate and won what obviously was exclusively a swing vote — the True Believers were in Reagan's corner from the get-go and didn't need to see a debate. And the fact that Reagan was behind for so many months yields the reality that there weren't all that many True Believers in the first place.

          Second, Reagan did not win 49 states. He won 44. Impressive, yes. But not 49. Carter took six states, plus the District of Columbia.

          We conservatives can be our own worst enemies.

      • BLJ

        I see that denial isn't only a river in Egypt.

    • Loyal Achates

      Yes I'm sure that's why you said 'boy'…

      • BLJ

        My bad. I should have said "little sissy girl".

  • Rifleman

    For obama to win a lot of Republicans and independents must be convinced to stay at home, and i don't think the dp/msm will be able to pull that off this year. A lot of Republicans who sat at home in '08 are wishing they hadn't, and I doubt enough will make that mistake in '12. The dp/msm will do their worst to make it so, of course, but their actions so far tell me they don't think obama has it anywhere near in the bag.

    • Rbpoplar

      I want the Republican's to win but Romney is a dud.

  • Bert

    Judicialwatch.com has documented the extreme and brazen measures that Obama is taking to STEAL the election.
    If Obama is successful then he can them claim that the crooked polls were really correct all along and the foolish electorate will believe him.

  • Schlomotion

    As Richard Stallman said about "What Republicans Believe:"

    Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our prayers for your recovery.

    .

    Did Mr. Limbaugh issue his outrage about polling reporting between huge fistfuls of oxy.cod.one pills?

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      You realize he accepted responsibility and then paid for his own recovery?

      Did Ted Kennedy do that much after his long swim?

      • Schlomotion

        And then did it all over again in 2006.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          Mary Jo is not available for comment.

          • amused

            Limbaugh a.k.a. BLIMPY got BUSTED . The State of Florida took responsibility . And the fat hypocrite who had earlier pontificated that ANY drug abuser should be thrown in jail , got off easy .
            LOL….paid for his own recovery LOLOLOLOL…..you poor deluded Rogo-Poo !

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Limbaugh had a maid that sold the story to a rag.
            And he went to rehab.

            And poor Teddy, did he go to rehab to bring Mary Jo back?

  • LibertarianToo

    Just remember: Carter was up 8 points over Reagan as late as October 28 (Gallup).

    Of course now we have the Acorn effect. Felons, foreigners and frauds tend to vote Democrat for some reason . . .

    • Banastre Tarleton

      How about the radical concept that more citizens actually prefer Obamy to Romney ?

      • amused

        Shhhhhhhhh……let Libertarian wallow in his delusion .

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          You both have yours, fair is fair.

  • EthanP

    While I would love to see Obama lose the election, I have another worry. If the current polls are true, BHO wins in a landslide. Disapointing but thats the result. My concern is a 1-2% win by either candidate, with several disputed results. The left has been working to steal an election like this since at least 2000. The recent Wisconsin senate race was the prototype. They have also promissed blood in the streets if Romney were to win such an election.

    • BLJ

      WTF cares about any threats from the Left. Try coming on my property and get some buckshot up your ass. When Romney wins they will cry and moan and nothing will happen.

      • Banastre Tarleton

        You're just the type of paranoid who would gun down an innocent man walking near your house sheeeesh

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          Did you also vote for Senator Byrd?

  • amused

    Go pound salt BLJ , it has been Republican and Conservative bighmouths who have issued threats of "Blood in the Streets " should Obama get re-elected …and TWO IDIOTS imparticular went public , one dumb Sheriff in Texas , and the moron Ted Nugent who by way of veiled threat , got his concert cancelled on a military base ,

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      And obama brags about organizing, and had the black panther with weapons at a polling station let off the hook.

      Don't pretend it's conservatives who want the violence.

  • Choi

    THE ONLY POLL that COUNTS is called "THE ELECTION".
    Pollsters have the world BULL-S__ED.
    People do NOT know who is really polling them so they play it SAFE and LIE to appear they're on the "bandwagon" and IF they oppose a CERTAIN Candidate they'll LIE.
    With a country DIVIDED and a VIOLENT LEFT,they're LYING.
    There is NO WAY ,after these 4 yrs ,that people are "clamoring" for 4 more yrs of the SAME or WORSE.
    THIS IS PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE TO GET PEOPLE TO "VOTE WITH THE SUPPOSED 'WINNER' AND TO DEMORALIZE THE OPPOSITION.
    The pollsters are as CORRUPTED as the LEFT-WING MEDIA.

  • http://tarandfeathersusa.wordpress.com/ Iratus Vulgas

    Polls created for media consumption are not designed to be accurate. They’re designed to attract attention. The polls that we never see belong to the respective parties and are considered proprietary information. They spend hundreds of thousands of dollars for this data, and I guarantee you they’re not going to share that info. Watching campaigns is a bit like watching a Texas Hold’em tournament on ESPN. You never know what cards they’re holding until the final bet is called. The poll results are merely the chips on the table, meant either to keep the suckers in the game, or to bluff the winners out of it. I'd never base my perception of the campaign on how the media is trying to make it look. That's a sucker bet for sure. They're too many cards cards showing on the table that don't jive with the current polling.

  • κατεργάζομαι

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    Q. Why will Jimmy Carter vote for Barack Obama?

    A. Because Jimmy doesn't want to be the worst President in history.

    .

  • WilliamJamesWard

    Now that Americans know that Barking Hussein Obama is a pathalogical liar, just how many
    people like deception will be exposed along with the idiot slugs looking for a free ride at
    the tax traugh of something for nothing which is robbing the producers. The left is in the
    process of destroying the American family and the parents see this every day, there are
    more of them who want a return to the possibility to National prosperity without the
    Democrat frauds, I hope they will carry the victory to Romney………The polls are
    skewed towards Obama, it is apparent and they are in the pocket of the left, strange
    I know only a few Obama supporters this time around and observe former supporters
    cursing the day they voted for him……………………………William

    • amused

      keep lying to yourself Ward , the whole voter card B.S. by the Republicans is backfiring , becausde the courts are striking down or repealing those phony actions , and those wh the republicans sought to disenfranchise are now galvanized against Romney and Republicans . and rightly so . And Ryans " vouchers " inspite of Ryan not calling them vouchers are not selling either { a fixed government payment to purchase medical insurance in lieu of Medicare IS A VOUCHER . And Conserva-tards are trying to sell that it will bring competitin , lol…and they're right and that competition will drive cost cutting which as every capitalist knows by experience , will effect services . The best thing Romney/Ryan campaign can do , is buy duct tape before those two talk themselkves out of an election .

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        You realize that only legitimate voters should decide who represents them.

        And the voter ID laws make sense to a lot of people, even if it frustrates the media and the liberal hacks who want to abuse the system.

      • WilliamJamesWard

        Aliens voting in our elections never did cut it with me, nor people voting in multiple locations
        etc., the problem is more serious than thought, I am aware of two elections won by fraud but
        hey maybe I am only one of a few that care. Have you asked yourself just why the largest
        chunk of funding is medical care and climbing incessantly. It is so rife with fraud and
        incompetence that America would be better off importing witch Doctors from abroad
        who probably would do as good a job in healing as what we now have, pushers for the
        drug companies. Vote for it and then find out what we got, Pelosi and Reid and Obama have
        treated the electorate like fools, now seems to be the chance to live up to that appelation by
        reinstating the looser administration who make Republican big government rip offs look like
        pikers. If you like the lying, anti-American, subversive now slimeing the office of president
        vote for him, I pick Romney who you stood up for against the other candidates. Somehow
        me thinks it is going to storm, an ill wind is blowing…………….William

  • dionissismitropoulos

    What is the name of the man who by appeasing the mullahs allows Iran to get the bomb?

    bOmbama.

    What is the name of the man who by appeasing Muslim rioters made sure that they will do it again in the future?

    MOBama

  • distantsmoke

    The media and the Left are heavily invested in an Obama win. If he wins, that justifies the fact that the mainstream media has shamelessly shilled, covered up, and campaigned for Obama. If he loses, they have a good set up (with all this polling showing he should win), to contest the election as fraudulent.

    The media in particular are not interested in what the American citizens want. They will do anything including busing in illegals to make sure tgheir man wins. That is why there is so much negative press about voter ID laws. No ID requirements mean anyone in the world can choose our Dear leader for us.