The Paternalism of ObamaCare Supporters

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The paternalistic style in American politics loses its causes but never its condescension.

Frustrated utopian Robert Owen lamented how men overlook their “true interests.” American Marxists decried the “false consciousness” of workers who stood athwart the ideas of their hirsute guru. Noam Chomsky disregarded public opinion that conflicted with his own as “manufactured consent.” Thomas Frank wrote a whole book pondering the “self-denying votes” of Americans.

The New York Times similarly finds opposition to ObamaCare rooted in bad public relations rather than bad public policy. Americans apparently just don’t know what’s best for them.

“Erika Losse is precisely the kind of person President Obama’s signature health care law is intended to help,” begins a Thursday piece in the New York Times. But the Times reporter discovers that she opposes the law. Losse’s opposition stems from the law’s decree that Americans purchase health insurance. The reporter retorts, “Never mind that Ms. Losse, who makes less than $35,000 a year, would probably qualify for subsidized insurance under the law.” The article, titled online “Distaste for Health Care Law Reflects Spending on Ads,” blames ObamaCare’s woes on money and manipulation.

The reporting reads as a running rebuttal of ObamaCare’s critics, who, the paper discovered earlier this month, wildly outnumber its advocates. A New York Times/CBS poll found 68 percent of Americans hoping that the U.S. Supreme Court overturns the law in whole (41 percent) or in part by eliminating the individual mandate (27 percent). Just 24 percent of respondents want the court to retain the law. The paper strangely buried the damning numbers for ObamaCare in paragraph 16 of an article highlighting the decline in popularity of the same body that judges the unpopular law’s constitutionality any day now.

The paper can’t criticize its pollsters. So it has gone after those polled.

With the nine justices handing down their ruling on the systemic health-care overhaul in just days, the law’s backers have gone into premature excuse-mode on why the embattled law has so few backers.

Academics Theda Skocpol and Lawrence R. Jacobs of the Scholars Strategy Network took to the pages of the Los Angeles Times to insist, “The mandate brouhaha is truly much ado about almost nothing.” The professors claim that the opposition hasn’t so much as persuaded the public as it has petrified them. They write, “Enemies of reform have demonized the mandate to scare the public.”

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  • mrbean

    Here is the prediction. It will be 7 -2 to declare only the mandate unconstitutional sending it back to the Congress – and the rest of Obamacare abomination can only be repealed by a Republican Congress and a Republican Senate. Fear the RINOs as they are all geldings when push comes to shove.

  • proxywar

    it will be declared constitutional on some strange arse convolted logic. Wait, watch and see.

  • davarino

    I hope it is declared unconstitutional, and then I hope the Republicans do the correct things to add competition, tort reform, insurance across state lines……all that good stuff that will actually make health care more affordable. Instead of 2000 pages under the cloak of darkness maybe it could be done in 50 pages or less with full disclosure. That would be nice.

    • fiddler

      How novel. You mean so that people can read and understand it? How ironic that our Constituion can fit in your hip pocket, but you can't even fit the "Health Care Law" in a briefcase. Lawyers are in the business of burying any public understanding of law in reams of legaleze, then find ways of exempting themselves from it.The deck is therefore stacked. The old adage, "he who is his own lawyer has a fool for a client" applies, and lawyers know it. They are the elite; the rest of us are the chattle who are duty bound to pay the taxes that seem to eventually find their way into their pockets.

      How about we ban lawyers from holding public office?

      • pagegl

        In answer to your question, that is something in which I have been in favor for many years.

        • Amused

          yea , yea , the ONE requirement that might actually get an HONEST man in the White House should be ,is that ANY candidate must have been a HOURLY WAGE EARNER for an unbroken string of atleast 10 years .Let te ppolitical parties kmock themselves out funding and pickingbtyheir candidates , but once done …then it's EQUAL TIME for the chosen candidates . ,and a SINGLE FUND to pay for it . No matter who contributes at that point would go to paying for that equal time .
          Simple -Fair -and Constitutional .

  • StephenD

    But isn't it and every other entitlement enticing to the masses? This is why there is even consideration of such mandates. Apart from the cost to those that would be forced to buy insurance merely for drawing breath there is the BENEFIT to those not able to afford insurance at all…until those paying realize they too can take a chunk out of "Free America" and go on the dole.
    In Communist Poland they had a saying in the sub-par factories "Whether I stand up or lay down, I get paid the same." Thus there is no incentive to produce. If there is no "prize" for your efforts and you can be "taken care of" by the State, why bother? In the end the State forces labor and you have become a slave rather than a citizen.
    It ALWAYS ends in death and destruction.

  • H&R_ Barack

    RE: "The Paternalism of ObamaCare Supporters" ?

    ~ How about stipulating a Paternity Test for ObamaCare Recipients?

    • Amused

      brilliant utterings from a juvenile mind .

      • H&R_ Barack

        Welfare was enacted so as to make the State your Father and Mother.

        Enjoy my work ethic.

        • amused

          judging by your remarks , I doubt you have any ethic let alone a work ethic .

          • amused

            my daddy ?? Thanks for proving the point I was making about you . That you're a f—ing idiot
            .And as far as daddys go , yours did a terrible job with you . But then again , the fruit dont fall too far from the tree eh ?

  • ruth pullis

    to the 9 judges; why don't you put obama care on the november ballot and let the people decide. this way no one can blame the republicans or democrats and big business for political sided judges.

    • amused

      oh the ignorance ! Because that is not the function of the Judicial branch . The idiots in Congress have had four years to settle this . Rather than the "party of NO " rejecting out of hand everything , bi-partisanship totally abandoned by both ,and the result = NOTHING .And I'm not letting the arrogance of the Democrats off the hook either , both parties were fully capable of adhering to the wishes of THE PEOPLE who know the health care system is broken , and want reform , could have hammered out something acceptable to both .But instead all behaved like spoiled little 4th graders on every issue ,nearly bringing the nation to its knees ,and providing a spectacle to the rest of the country and the world of a nation locked in indecision .

  • http://www.alongaboutmidnight.com/study/THOMSON/J/THECASTLEOFINDOLENCE/ Le Beau

    The paternalism is only paternalism in context. There are others, and when you factor them all, you get a bizarre sense of superiority. Somehow, if you can keep the same mindset you had in high school, the same clique mentality and same fierce devotion to the Cool set of beliefs, you can be better then the Uncool groups — forever.

    To become a progressive, turn 15. To stay a progressive, stay 15.

    • Conservadummy

      Caiden Cowger, Jonathan Krohn…two "conservative" teenagers with their own radio shows and books. Why? Because it's so easy to spout conservative blather, even a teenager can do it.

      Immigrants? Build an electric fence. Foreign policy problems? Go to war. Gay people? Put 'em on an island. See? Every problem has an easy-bake solution.

      Conservatives are perpetual children–scared, paranoid, always-put-upon babies. You actually require rulers for your own good.

  • BS77

    "Progressive" is a false term…it implies continuing improvement and success. Most so called progressives are deluded leftists with an agenda that is anything but progressive….it is an Orwellian fantasy built on .entitlements, cradle to grave welfare, open borders, a nation on food stamps and dismal public schools, soaring taxes, a meddlesome nanny state, do nothing Byzantine bureaucracies, coupled with staggering debts and deficits….

  • Amused

    Americans really don't know what's good for them , I'll agree with that sentiment .As far as this whole Health Care thing goes …Republicans have LIED about it , their hacks like Blimpie Limbaugh have LIED about it , and political prostitutes like Palin , Malkin , and Coulter have lied about it . What Americans may not know is that the Heaslth Care Industry has been giving these LIARS their scripts , paying and lobbying for it ,and of course lying too .And it's all distraction , to keep Americans from recognizing just how badly broken the heath care system is . When you can take 10 gall bladder patients , same proceedures , same medication , same amount of days in the hospital and get 10 wildley different bills , that's should be a sign that's something is wrong .

  • Amused

    What most of you totally brainwashed morons dont or WON;T realize , is that torts have nothing to do with the rising costs of healthcare , which btw ,for the uninformed is about 30% every 2 years .And it's not as if no one knows that the health Care Boys are in it for the money only minus any ehtics .The damn idiot the sheeple elected in Fla. for Governor , was a damn coniver who was responsible for millions in Medicare Fraud .LOL….sheeple like you . And every damn one of you that has insurance and gets their copy of the bill , know damn well prices are jacked up through the roof . And then there's the sheer stupidity and fear mongering – "kill grandma " …." forced euthanasia for profit " man what a bunch of idiots . . Why is it that the best place to get a serious life threatening infection , is in a HOSPITAL ? And you claim people wil have to be at the mercy of "govmint doctors " to approve claims ? WHO IN THE HELL DO YOU HAVE TO FIGHT NOW ? Dummies !
    I really hope to hell Romney gets elected and lets see what he will do with the aid of you conservative /republican numbskulls .

  • Linda Rivera

    SCARY……

    Is this REALLY our AMERICA??????

    Know the TRUTH about the Government Health Care Bill H.R.3200 – Key Points http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcBaSP31Be8

  • Linda Rivera

    An inferior, IMMORAL health care plan that NO ONE wants and CANNOT afford to pay. The threat to jail and/or fine those who don't purchase the government enforced plan.

    Massive spending as if there is no tomorrow. Fighting wars we have NO money for. Massive borrowing.

    The Massive giving away of Billions of dollars every year to other countries, including the OIL-WEALTHY Middle East, Hamas-controlled Gaza and the Palestinian Authority organization who fill their war chests, build mansions and LAUGH all the way to the bank with FREE infidel money. Whilst in America, homeless shelters are filled to capacity; tent cities have sprung up all over the U.S. filled with desperate, jobless, homeless Americans.

    Massive debt. The massive printing of paper money out of thin air to DELIBERATELY create out-of-control inflation. There is no question that the total DESTRUCTION of America's economy is planned. The results will be horrifying. In the once wealthy and great nation of America, millions of Americans will become destitute, hungry and homeless with no money or resources to help them.

  • Linda Rivera

    Organic, non-GMO avocado, fruit and nut trees and berries must be planted in all of our nation’s cities’ and towns’ parks to help the many millions of Americans who will soon be in a desperate struggle to survive because of the frightening, highly destructive economic policies of our government.

    Watch it. And weep for our great nation and people:

    FALL Of The Republic – The Presidency Of Barack H Obama – The Full Movie HQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8LPNRI_6T8&fe

  • amused

    Take a tranquilizer Linda , your world is one of paranoia and fear mongering …..exactly what the moguls of healthcare industries want . Too bad you didn't start your "weeping " way back in '02 when politicians were in the midst of their feeding frenzy , like wild pigs at the troff , destroying the housing industry , accomodating Wall Street in the rape of private equity , with their wild gambling with everyone ELSES money ,what do you call that ? "higly destructive economic policies " ? 8 years of Bush brought you 4 years of Obama . And the only light on the horizon is a two-faced , flip-flopping LIAR -Romney .

  • Asher

    The whole supreme court knows that forcing the people to buy anything, (the mandate) is Unconstitutional and changes the relationship between the government and the people. There were some unions and companies that got waivers, you can't give some of the people waivers, and not others based on who your donars were, or if you discriminate against certain groups, we are all supposed to be equal under the Constitution. The way Obama care was passed, in bribing Congressmen and Senators to vote for it, really made people mad, the government just decided it wanted more control over everyone's lives, so they pushed it through.

  • amused

    Oh you mean like the Medicare deductions on my paycheck ? Bribing ? Really …..it got passed the way every bill gets passed ….Republicans just didn't like it , and understandably so ….they get their money from the Health-Care Industry, and in addition simply wanted Obama to fail at whatever he proposed …lol…they said as much from the day he got elected . Then came the lies and fear-tactics . Well I think it worked , with an activist Supreme Court, it will most likely be struck down . But no , the government just didn't " decide it wanted more control over peoples lives " …that's paranoid and childish , the American people want the system fixed , Republicans want to maintain the staus quo .

  • Conservadummy

    Funny thing about that "government," isn't it, Amused. We elect them, ostensibly from among our own ranks, for the purposes of solving big problems. I remember a certain phrase–"of the people, for the people, by the people…" (must've been some commie). But these guys see government as some sort of foreign entity, bent on a Stalinist mission. And when their own are installed–and sell us down the river to whatever company paid for their candidacy, they cheer.

  • amused

    It's a Stalinist Mission , because there's a Democrat in the White House , but when a Republican is in it's "Mom and Apple Pie " .If Obama's out to "destroy America " he 's not doing a very good job , in fact Wall Street has done better for that end , The do nothing Congress has done more to denigrate the US .But in reality it is worse than it seems because this dog fight has decended beyond politics , it's become highly personal .Republicans reject even parts of the bill they like because it's written by Obama . So the "will of the people " is just an empty phrase .
    I honestly hope that dikhead Romney gets elected because if Obama gets re-elected , Republicans for the sake of their partisanship will wreck the country just to stick it to Obama .They'be already proved that .

  • amused

    …..and yes , they'll cheer , even when it's their own arses that are getting sold down the river