The Transcript of Horowitz’s Speech at UNC

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Editor’s note: This is the edited transcript of the speech given by David Horowitz at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill on March 12, 2012. 

I want to thank Brandon Hartness, the Committee for a Better Carolina, and Christians United for Israel for inviting me to speak tonight. I wish I had also been invited by Jewish groups on this campus, but the Jewish groups on this campus are in a state of denial when it comes to the threat facing Israel.

The subject of my talk is Israel, but it is really about America as well.  Israel is the canary in the mine.  When you watch Hassan Nasrallah, the head of Hezbollah, lead tens of thousands of Muslims in Lebanon in chants of “Death to America, death to Israel,” you understand they are linked.  When you hear Iran’s dictator, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, lead similar crowds in chants of “Death to Israel, death to America,” you see they are linked.  The coiner of the slogan that linked them for the Islamic revolution was the Ayatollah Khomeini, father of the modern Jihad against the West, who called America “The Great Satan” and Israel “The Little Satan.”

When gauging human conflicts it is important to look at people’s intentions. Probably none of you ever wondered why we don’t have missiles pointing towards our northern neighbor, or an army stationed on the Canadian border. That’s because we understand that even though Canadians are often resentful of what they think of as “American imperialism,” their intentions towards us are friendly and benign.  We even share a “National Hockey League” with them. If people understood or correctly read Hitler’s intentions in the ‘30s, 70 million lives might have been saved. Hitler systematically violated the International Peace Agreements that were meant to keep Germany from re-emerging as a major aggressive power. Then he took a piece of Czechoslovakia and a piece of Austria, but there were always people in the West, leaders in the West, who said, “We can do business with Hitler, we can negotiate him, we can appease his appetites short of war.” And they were wrong.

The Jews, too, misread Hitler’s intentions. There would be a lot more Jews in the world, if the Jews then had understood the intentions of the Nazis.  There were 500,000 Jews imprisoned in the Warsaw Ghetto. But they didn’t think the Germans were going to kill them. They organized themselves to make it easier for the Germans to ship them out to what they thought were work camps. They actually made it easier for the Germans to kill them because they thought the Germans were too civilized to plan to exterminate them. They misread the intentions of the Germans.

So I want to begin this little talk tonight by reading some statements made by Palestinian leaders, which express their intentions towards the Jews. Mahmoud al-Zahar is a founder of Hamas and one of its current leaders, and this is what he has said: “There is no place for you Jews among us, and you have no future among the nations of the world.  You are headed for annihilation.”

Ahmad Bahar, who is acting chairman of the Gaza Parliament and a member of Hamas said, “Be certain that America is on its way to disappear.  Allah take hold of the Jews and their allies. Allah take hold of the Americans and their allies. Allah count them and kill them to the last one, don’t leave even one.”

On the official Hamas website there is a video of a Hamas suicide bomber, and he can be seen saying this: “My message to the Jews is that there is no god but Allah.  We are a nation that drinks blood and we know that there is no blood better than the blood of Jews.  We will not leave you alone until we have quenched our thirst with your blood and our children’s thirst with your blood.”

Nasrallah, the head of Hezbollah, has said that he hopes we Jews will gather in Israel so he won’t have to hunt us down worldwide.

Youssef al-Qaradawi, the spiritual leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, spoke not long ago to a million people in Tahrir Square and said this:  “Throughout history Allah has imposed upon the Jews people who would punish them for their corruption. The last punishment was carried out by Hitler by means of all the things he did to them — even though they exaggerated this issue — he managed to put them in their place.  This was divine punishment for them. Allah willing, the next time will be at the hands of the believers.”  In other words, Islam will finish the job that Hitler started.

The prophet Muhammad has said, “The day of judgment will only come when Muslims fight the Jews and kill them.  When the Jews hide behind the rocks and the trees and the rocks and the trees cry out ‘Oh, Muslim, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.’”

This genocidal saying of the prophet is quoted in the Hamas Charter, which also says, “Islam will obliterate Israel as it has others before it.”

On American campuses across this country, members of Students for Justice in Palestine and the Muslim Student Association chant: “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.”  The river is the Jordan, which is Israel’s border to the east; the sea is the Mediterranean, which is Israel’s border to the west. “From the river to the sea” is Israel. What Students for Justice in Palestine and members of the Muslim Students Association are chanting is a statement of intention to obliterate the state of Israel. Israel is fighting for its survival against global forces who want to destroy it.

What is “Palestine?”

It’s not an Arabic name. It’s a name that was given to Judea and Samaria, which is now called the West Bank, and which is the historic homeland of the Jews. In 66 A.D. the Jews had the bad judgment to go up against the Roman Empire, and they were defeated and a million Jews were killed. To further humiliate the Jews of Judea, the Romans renamed the territory they inhabited after their enemies, the Philistines. There were no Arabs, by the way, in this region at that time. The Philistines were red-headed Aegean sailors. They were not Arabs.

For 2000 years after that, there was no people calling itself Palestinian.  In fact, there was no people calling itself Palestinian until 1964, 15 years after the state of Israel was created, which is one of the reasons that Newt Gingrich said that the Palestinians are an invented people. Palestine is the name of a region, it’s like New England.  In 1948 if you talked about Palestinians, you’d be talking about Jews. We inhabit a kind of surreal universe now, particularly in universities, which are the most conformist institutions in our country, which is why these facts seem strange. The university has become a one-party state where people on the left talk to each other with nobody to challenge them, which is why everything I’m going to say tonight will probably seem strange. But if you can overcome your emotions and actually look at the facts, you’ll see that everything that I’m saying is quite correct.

The, Big Lie which is repeated by Hamas and the PLO, and by everyone on the political Left and by all supporters of the Palestinian cause, is this; the claim that Israel occupies Palestinian land, or that it occupies Arab land.

This is false. The land that Israel was created on, which is the same land that Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Jordan were created on, belonged to the Turks for 400 years prior to that. Turks are not Arabs. The Turks were on the losing side in the First World War, which meant that when the war was over the Ottoman Empire would be dismantled.  This is according to both international law and international tradition.  After the war, the European victors were given mandates over the conquered empire, and they carved out the five nations I mentioned.

The “Palestine Mandate,” which described a portion of this territory, referred to a region, not a people. There were Arabs living in this region, but there was no “Palestinian people.” In 1922, Churchill assigned 80% of the Palestine Mandate to Jordan, created the state that is now called trans-Jordan. Seventy-percent of the people living in this area were Arabs who inhabited the region called “Palestine.” In other words seventy-percent of Jordan is Palestinian. But you never hear anybody complain that Jordan is “occupied” by the Hashemite minority that rules the state. Jordan is a Hashemite monarchy with a majority Palestinian population. It is 80% of the land mass of the original Palestine Mandate. Where is the movement for the self-determination of the Palestinians of Jordan?  There is none.  There is none because the agenda of the Palestinians and their leftwing supporters is not to create a Palestinian state but to push the Jews into the sea. That’s it. The Palestinian movement is not about self-determination.

[At this point about 40 members of the audience, some wearing kaffiyeh’s the terrorist symbol created by Yassir Arafat, most of them members of the Muslim Students Association and Students for Justice in Palestine, supporters of Hamas marched out on a pre-arranged cue.]

Goodbye everybody. These are supposed to be college students, supposed to be learning…

The British government, which created the state of Jordan (or Trans-Jordan as it was then known), stipulated that no Jew could own land in Jordan. Today, no Jew is welcome in Jordan, a country which occupies 80% of the Palestine Mandate that had been promised to the Jews.

The British and the United Nations then divided the remaining 20% of the original Palestine Mandate between the Jews and the Arabs, who lived on the west bank of the Jordan River, the Arabs who – it so happened – lived in Judea and Samaria, the historic homeland of the Jews. They divided the remaining 20% equally, except that they gave the Jews three slivers of land not exactly contiguous and 60% of that land was an arid desert.

The Arabs rejected their share of the land and instead, on the day Israel was created in 1948, eight Arab dictatorships attacked the new born state with the stated intention of pushing the Jews into the sea. That war has never ended. It is the Arabs’ aggression against the state of Israel and their desire to push the Jews into the sea that is the cause – the sole cause – of the conflict in the Middle East.

When the Jews won the 1948 war, they offered to sign a peace with the Arabs and to live side by side with an Arab state. But the Arabs did not want a Palestinian state, then or for the next sixty years. They have rejected a state every time it has been offered to them because that is not their goal. Their goal was once to expel a non-Arab people from the region, and is now to make it Muslim. Islam is – and has always been — an imperial religion that expands by force. No one can leave Islam. For apostates the sentence is death. Similarly, once an area is Muslim, it has to stay Muslim. That is the creed.

When the war ended in 1949, Egypt annexed Gaza, and Jordan annexed the West Bank. There was not a peep out of the entire Arab world about the annexation of Gaza or the annexation of Jordan, or the fact that the so-called Palestinians not only didn’t have a home now, they didn’t have the land they had been promised to build on. Why was there no protest? Because it’s not about self-determination for the Palestinians or the Arabs, for that matter. It’s about getting rid of the Jews. It’s about pushing the Jews into the sea.

The founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hassan al-Banna, was an admirer of Hitler who translated “Mein Kampf” into Arabic in the ‘30s. In 1948, al-Banna said, “If the Jews get a state in Israel, Islam will push the Jews into the sea.” That’s the agenda, and it has never changed.

In 1964, when the West Bank was still part of Jordan, and Gaza was still part of Egypt, the Egyptian dictator, Nasser, sponsored the creation of the Palestine Liberation Organization as a weapon against the Jews. You can read the original PLO charter on the Internet. You will not find a word about liberating the Palestinians of the West Bank, or about self-determination for Palestinians of Gaza.  It’s all about obliterating the Zionists — Israel. That’s who these people are.

The West Bank and Gaza were liberated from Egypt and Jordan as a result of Israel’s victory in the ’67 war.  This was the second Arab aggression in 20 years whose stated purpose was to destroy the Jewish state. When this war was ended, Israel offered to return Gaza and Jordan back to Arab rule in exchange for a peace treaty that would recognize Israel’s right to exist. The offer was rejected. The Arab aggressors all met in Khartoum in 1967 and they issued a joint statement which is generally referred to as “The Three No’s” – “No recognition of Israel; No negotiation; No peace.” That is the reason why Israeli troops have occupied Gaza and the West Bank. Their purpose is to prevent further aggressions by the Arab states through these corridors, and also – and more recently — their use as terrorist launching pads by the PLO and Hamas — and that’s why Israeli troops are stationed here.

Israel cannot just unilaterally withdraw from where its troops are stationed and allow those who seek its destruction to attack again. They need to have a peace treaty that recognizes their right to exist and they need to redraw their borders to make their territory more defensible. It is the internationally recognized procedure for dealing with aggressors when they lose to re-draw the map so that their victims have a greater ability to defend themselves the next time.

Germany attacked Poland twice in the 20th century, so in 1945 the Allies took the entire region of East Prussia, which was the industrial heartland of Germany, and gave it to Poland.

How many Germans do you think had to be resettled?  How many Germans did they pull out of East Prussia and resettle when the Allies gave East Prussia? Twelve million. Twelve million Germans were uprooted from places they had inhabited since the Middle Ages. And nobody complained.  If the Jews had acted the way other nations act, they would have annexed the West Bank in 1967 and they would have moved all the Arabs into Jordan which is a majority Palestinian state. But they didn’t do that. The Jews tried to be nice. They thought: if we’re nice to them, they’ll be nice to us. No they won’t. They hate you, and want to push you into the sea.

When Israel was the ruling authority in the West Bank and Gaza in the ‘70s and ‘80s, they poured hundreds of millions of dollars into these territories and created universities. The economy of the West Bank grew at a rate that was the fifth fastest in the world. Then came the Oslo so-called peace process, which established the Palestinian Authority and brought the terrorist Arafat back from Tunisia and gave him control. I had to pinch myself when I read the statistics, but within six months the standard of living in Gaza had declined by 25% and the unemployment rate went from 10 to 40%. These are the real oppressors of Palestinians: The PLO and Hamas.

It’s not like the malicious intent towards the Jews, the hatred for the Jews, the “kill the Jews” mentality is extraneous to this struggle. It is this struggle. The father of Palestinian nationalism is Haj Amin al-Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, who led massacres of the Jews in the ‘20s and ‘30s because they were Jews – well before the creation of the state of Israel.  Al-Husseini was a Nazi, literally a Nazi, who went to Berlin to serve Hitler. Al-Husseini was a protégé of Hassan al-Banna, the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood.  He recruited an Arab legion to fight for Hitler and he also drew up his own plans to create an Auschwitz – a death camp for Jews in the Middle East. The only reason his plan wasn’t implemented was because Rommel was defeated in the battle of El Alamein. Today, Al-Husseini is honored on the West Bank with a holiday as the George Washington of the Palestinians.

This is a Nazi movement. The statements I read at the outset of this talk are Nazi statements. The difference is this: Hitler hid his plans for the Final Solution from the German people because he thought they were too civilized to accept them. The Palestinians of Hamas and the Iranians shout it from the rooftops. Where is the great dissent from this in the Muslim world? It’s too bad that all our Muslim friends have left and did not stay to hear this, but there are good Muslims and there are bad Muslims, and the majority of Muslims are probably good Muslims – decent, law abiding and desiring peace. But there were good Germans too, and in the end, they didn’t make a damn’s worth of difference. I will know a moderate Muslim when they stand up and condemn these kinds of statements and the actions that they inspire. It’s not really hard to know who your friends are. But a lot of people have difficulty in knowing who their enemies are and that is the problem we are facing today.

Since Gaza for the younger people here is something they remember, I will use Gaza to make this case. After the 1967 war, as I said previously, the Jews offered to give Gaza back to Egypt. Egypt rejected the offer because the Arabs had decided on the “Three No’s” — no negotiation, no recognition, no peace. The reason that Israeli troops occupied Gaza was that Israel had been invaded twice already – and in 1973 would be attacked for a third time. Nonetheless, the world is bent on encouraging Arab aggressions. There was enormous international pressure from the left on Israel to retreat from Gaza without a peace, without security guarantees.

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  • Anamah

    Maybe there is a way to let them obliterate them selves. Let them drown in their own vomit. Their hate and malignity make them so dumb frenzy than the pink panther will make the world laughing on those lunatics. We do not need to demonstrate one more minute how good we are. Not to anybody not to ourselves. Thank you David this one was a great speech, a real gift of truth to gullible students.

  • StephenD

    My only criticism is your reference to a "blacker moment" of G-d. It is, as you have stated in this very article, the nature of man that turns something good into evil (oil under the Arabian sands), not the nature of G-d.
    Apart from that you should know I intend to reprint your article and share it with as many people as I can. Great work here sir. I hope those that have ears will listen.

  • stern

    Why do you keep saying that it was the speech that caused the walkout? David Horowitz could have stood up and sung "Happy Birthday" and those cretins would have disrupted him.

    • mrbean

      It is flagrantly obvious that the walkout was preplanned and typical of the left; symbolism over substance. David gave a very accurate historical presentation of why things are as they are today. This young indoctrinates are in denial and obviously not ready to handle the truth.

    • TG Browning

      True, very true. We’re lucky that this messenger was killed …


  • dave

    What a brilliant speech, I wish David would come to UK universities.

  • stern

    If the universities truly were universities, they would have filmed this speech and it would be compulsory viewing for all students – not to the exclusion of the usual leftist garbage students are exposed to, but as a counterpoint. Then let the students make up their own minds.

    After all, that would truly be teaching students to think. And that's exactly why the universities will never do it.

    • Famously Unknown

      To make viewing COMPULSORY is exactly the wrong thing to do. Better to offer to hold a campus debate requiring evidence bases for the debaters contentions re truth or falsity of David Horowitz's statements about the presented history and his expressed opinions. That debate could be promoted to be shown live on local radio and TV stations.

      • stern

        the problem is that right now, anti-Israel views ARE "compulsory". I have a daughter at York University in Toronto, and she is subjected to these views in classrooms, tutorials and the general buildings of the campus.

  • tom4you

    Saving the article for my kid's research papers in High School…better they get the truth then liberal spin….however, David keeps using the term Nazi and I understand the problem to be that Islam is a false religion managed by Jesus's adversary Satan….this is a spiritual battle on Earth that we are pawns off…all who are of Islam will be eternally cut out of Heaven…Satan is deceiving the world's governments and people's and we can't do anything about it except pray God protects us….I believe we will be in the Gog Maggog war very soon because the Muslim Brotherhood is on the march….if there is a Rapture then I'll be getting out but if not then come and chop off my head becuase I'll never worship Satan/Allah…

    • aladyforjesus

      Amen, brother.

      When all the nations' armies surround the great city of the great King, of the tribe Judah who will break every chain ( and he will bring his saints with him) there will be a great massacre in the valley of Jezreel , on mount Megiddo. the Messiah will come, Jews and Chrisians will happily be one. And We shall be changed. we will see him face to face.

  • kentatwater

    It's just as well that Paleostinian supporters left the room, what with their compatriots' habit of lobbing lethal objects at Jews.

    No need to tax the HVAC system, either.

  • Famously Unknown

    Supremely excellent summation of the obscene situation perpetrated by the baiters and haters.
    Concerning the universities who knowingly collude with these political-religious psychopaths, perhaps a better term for these schools of bigotry and self-righteousness out to be "perversities."

    Instead of our dreaming of new diversions from life-and-death matters, we should wake up screaming in outrage at our own apathy. Do we understand our responsibilities for muscular, humane activism?

  • hajid

    Good revelation Mr. Horowitz.

    "“From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.” Indeed, the Roman name Palestine for Israel will be freed from all Islam and leftist opression, from the ocean to the sea.

    For people who say one thing and do the opposite will believe the leftist's and Islam's lies because they think leftists and Islam are like them, say one thing and do the opposite. They will deny the facts that leftists and Islam has the intention to destroy the West and they mean that.

  • Ghostwriter

    Sadly,Muslims don't want to hear ANY criticism of THEMSELVES,they only want to hear criticism of others. It would have been good to hear from the other side.

  • TG Browning

    Outstanding summation and full of a number of points that I was unaware of. I am especially glad that you put this transcript up because the videos of it are by in large useless for me, since I’m deaf. When the videos were posted I tried to watch them but without any captioning, it was useless.


  • michiganruth

    thanks for posting this, frontpage. this is a critically important speech for everyone to read.

    I sent it to my daughter, a college senior. one of her sociology professors just recommended the vile 'If Americans Only Knew' website to a classmate. she needs ammo to fight back, and this speech is a great weapon!

  • BS77

    Thanks to Mr. Horowitz for speaking the truth….he is an ethical and rational man. Too bad the leftists are too brainwashed or stupid to comprehend what he is saying.

  • Dispozadaburka

    Great article!
    Thank you Mr. Horowitz!

    Also want to thank Alan Dershowitz on his book, "The Case for Israel."

  • Brujo Blanco

    At our universities they are turning the tables on what is. Right and what is wrong. A good number of students take sides against Jews and so called dangerous eight wing Christians in support of Muslims. My concern is that these students are being guided by the radicals of the 60’s and the leftists of today. These students will end up being our future leaders. Obama has demonstrates that one can ignore the constitution without consequences. We have people from the far left in charge of many aspects of government. Will they be in favor of using the NDAA to lock up ” terrorists” such as David Horwitz? Keep in mind that the radicals of the 60’s were Communists who supported and were supported by the soviets. They have not gone away and they are in bed with Obama. These commies need causes to solidify their movement and one of those causes is Isael ergo the Jews. These November are not confined to the Mideast in that they are active and very violent in France, UK, Sweden and other countries. Jews have been chased out of virtually every Muslim country in the world. Antisemitism is being justified by the American left which in many cases includes non religious Jews. When they finish with the Jews who will they go after next.

  • Youssef

    The website of Ennahda, Tunisia’s largest political party, was hacked this morning by a Tunisian group claiming affiliation with the international cyber activist collective, Anonymous.

    The hacktivists wrote a message on saying that the party has done nothing for the Tunisian people so far, and called it to leave. “As long as there is no justice, there will be no peace, Nahdha This is you our message to you! Degage (leave)! Your time is over! You have done nothing to the Tunisian people! out Now!,” they wrote.


  • Mike

    Very insightful.I passed it on to a few people.

  • business

    Cool learned something newthis week now I’m happy for today. Cheers!

  • Herve Duchat

    What I object to in this speech is the constant bashing of the "left" as being anti-Israel/anti-Semitic. I'm a quite strongly a socialist, but also am staunchly Zionist. The two do not have to be mutually exclusive, and among Jews, that combination of leftism and Zionism is still thriving. Why not just get rid of the specious right-left paradigm and, for the purposes of this discussion, focus on anti-Zionists of all political persuasions?

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