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		<title>By: personals</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 07:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.</p>
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		<title>By: SAM000</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 05:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[glennd 1; 
I hope that this article will not be removed and you will see the answers; 
 
The mullahs love USA, USA is a country that had done too much favors for the Mullahs, USA removed Mossadeq and re installed SHAH, with Mossadeq, Iran would never fall in the Islamism trap. 
Then, USA removed SHAH and paved the road for Khomeini; 
Then Khomeini got the American Embassy on hostage, and USA thanked Khomeini by offering him 10 Billions and signing a protection pact for 20 years (Alger Pact of 1982). 
Khomeini understood that hostage taking and terrorism is the best business and the Americans appreciate this level of DIPLOMACY, that&#039;s why Khomeini BOMBED the US Marine&#039;s base at Lebanon and killed 241 American soldiers, USA answered by a significant RESPONSE, USA escaped from Lebanon and left it for Khomeini. 
USA thanked more and sent Khomeini a GOLDEN COLT, A CAKE, and a Qoran by a US PRESIDENTIAL envoy (COLONEL OLIVER NORTH and IRAN GATE). 
 
I hope that this first part will not be deleted, I was not so &quot;CIVIL&quot; here, as you said before. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>glennd 1;<br />
I hope that this article will not be removed and you will see the answers; </p>
<p>The mullahs love USA, USA is a country that had done too much favors for the Mullahs, USA removed Mossadeq and re installed SHAH, with Mossadeq, Iran would never fall in the Islamism trap.<br />
Then, USA removed SHAH and paved the road for Khomeini;<br />
Then Khomeini got the American Embassy on hostage, and USA thanked Khomeini by offering him 10 Billions and signing a protection pact for 20 years (Alger Pact of 1982).<br />
Khomeini understood that hostage taking and terrorism is the best business and the Americans appreciate this level of DIPLOMACY, that&#039;s why Khomeini BOMBED the US Marine&#039;s base at Lebanon and killed 241 American soldiers, USA answered by a significant RESPONSE, USA escaped from Lebanon and left it for Khomeini.<br />
USA thanked more and sent Khomeini a GOLDEN COLT, A CAKE, and a Qoran by a US PRESIDENTIAL envoy (COLONEL OLIVER NORTH and IRAN GATE). </p>
<p>I hope that this first part will not be deleted, I was not so &quot;CIVIL&quot; here, as you said before. </p>
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		<title>By: SAM000</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SAM000]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 02:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, the first one was not deleted, I continue; 
I would like to continue to write and answer you, because at least you are honest on historic facts,  
glennd 1; our nation, our people; our youth are genocided every day by the Mullahs, we do not think about 60 years ago, we want first to remove this disguesting criminal power from Iran, we are in war, in a total war, every day we have the deaths, this is IRANIAN PEOPLE who talk, this is the RESISTANCE VOICE and message to the free world, we criticize US administration for their appeasement of the Mullahs, but, American people and congress and senate are supporting our resistance politically, USA is our friend, and this is natural and normal, the Americans are the freedom supporters, this is honorable. 
If I write the reason why the Mullahs hate you (love you) so much, I will be censured. 
 
Let&#039;s try later, but, please, we the Iranian people, we are not Islamist, we have learned our historic errors, somewhere, you said that the Ayatollahs do not come from VACUUM, from 300 years ago, the Mullahs were proliferated from Shiite institutions, the principal SHIITE INSTITUTIONS are based in IRAQ, the cities of NADJAF, Karbela, SAMARA host the tens of Islamic Shiite schools, all the students are granted, all the SHIITE institutions are funded by &quot;HER MAJESTY&quot; British KINGDOM. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the first one was not deleted, I continue;<br />
I would like to continue to write and answer you, because at least you are honest on historic facts,<br />
glennd 1; our nation, our people; our youth are genocided every day by the Mullahs, we do not think about 60 years ago, we want first to remove this disguesting criminal power from Iran, we are in war, in a total war, every day we have the deaths, this is IRANIAN PEOPLE who talk, this is the RESISTANCE VOICE and message to the free world, we criticize US administration for their appeasement of the Mullahs, but, American people and congress and senate are supporting our resistance politically, USA is our friend, and this is natural and normal, the Americans are the freedom supporters, this is honorable.<br />
If I write the reason why the Mullahs hate you (love you) so much, I will be censured. </p>
<p>Let&#039;s try later, but, please, we the Iranian people, we are not Islamist, we have learned our historic errors, somewhere, you said that the Ayatollahs do not come from VACUUM, from 300 years ago, the Mullahs were proliferated from Shiite institutions, the principal SHIITE INSTITUTIONS are based in IRAQ, the cities of NADJAF, Karbela, SAMARA host the tens of Islamic Shiite schools, all the students are granted, all the SHIITE institutions are funded by &quot;HER MAJESTY&quot; British KINGDOM. </p>
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		<title>By: SAM000</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/davidhornik/obamas-courting-of-the-mullahs/comment-page-1/#comment-3794682</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SAM000]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 01:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[glennd 1; 
yes, you are honest about historic of the coup against Mossadeq,  
What I regret is your diverted mind and polluted conclusion about the present time. 
before arrival of Khomeini and the Islamism on power, we put USA for all our misery, but, now, our misery is from the Mullahs and the thugs on power, i have to write a small piece of before Khomeini historic, but, I&#039;m afraid to be censured, as you said in one of your posts, I will be censured because I can not stay CIVIL by writing some truth about the American interference in IRAN. 
But, again, I repeat, the Mullahs oppose the west not for the USA&#039;s Interference in Iran. 
O.K. let&#039;s imagine that you are right here, what about the FRENCH?, FRANCE had welcomed Khomeini before the revolution, France had never interfered in Iran, the first BOMBS were exploded in France just after the seizure of the power by Khomeini in IRAN. 
And what about the IRELAND?, the Irish people and Irish government were the first to congratulate the Islamist replacing the SHAH. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>glennd 1;<br />
yes, you are honest about historic of the coup against Mossadeq,<br />
What I regret is your diverted mind and polluted conclusion about the present time.<br />
before arrival of Khomeini and the Islamism on power, we put USA for all our misery, but, now, our misery is from the Mullahs and the thugs on power, i have to write a small piece of before Khomeini historic, but, I&#039;m afraid to be censured, as you said in one of your posts, I will be censured because I can not stay CIVIL by writing some truth about the American interference in IRAN.<br />
But, again, I repeat, the Mullahs oppose the west not for the USA&#039;s Interference in Iran.<br />
O.K. let&#039;s imagine that you are right here, what about the FRENCH?, FRANCE had welcomed Khomeini before the revolution, France had never interfered in Iran, the first BOMBS were exploded in France just after the seizure of the power by Khomeini in IRAN.<br />
And what about the IRELAND?, the Irish people and Irish government were the first to congratulate the Islamist replacing the SHAH. </p>
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		<title>By: Glennd1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glennd1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 23:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just one thing. You do realize you didn&#039;t contravene either my original point about the author&#039;s failure to present both sides of the ledger nor my last point about the coup that overthrew Mousadegh, yes? All that BS from you and in no way did you damage a thing I&#039;ve said here.  We even have an Iranian U.S. sympathizer on this thread who tells you my account is correct as well. You have been exposed for the fraud that you are, not me. My commentary and criticism is fact based and reasoned. Your&#039;s is spurious and chaotic, the sign of a poorly trained mind. Do yourself a favor, go learn some real mideast history and then how to argue, then come back here to the big boy pool. I know you don&#039;t see it, but trust me everyone else does. You are in very far over your head.  
 
What you also can&#039;t seem to digest is that I can look at the history objectively and not sympathize with or justify Iran&#039;s actions. I loathe the Islamists, but nothing about that requires me to pretend that the very recent history there hasn&#039;t happened. You look the fool and make Americans look stupid and vicious when you peddle such nonsense. You are actually ruining our society by unhinging your dialog from reality, just like the leftists. And you don&#039;t even see it. How utterly sad for you.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just one thing. You do realize you didn&#039;t contravene either my original point about the author&#039;s failure to present both sides of the ledger nor my last point about the coup that overthrew Mousadegh, yes? All that BS from you and in no way did you damage a thing I&#039;ve said here.  We even have an Iranian U.S. sympathizer on this thread who tells you my account is correct as well. You have been exposed for the fraud that you are, not me. My commentary and criticism is fact based and reasoned. Your&#039;s is spurious and chaotic, the sign of a poorly trained mind. Do yourself a favor, go learn some real mideast history and then how to argue, then come back here to the big boy pool. I know you don&#039;t see it, but trust me everyone else does. You are in very far over your head.  </p>
<p>What you also can&#039;t seem to digest is that I can look at the history objectively and not sympathize with or justify Iran&#039;s actions. I loathe the Islamists, but nothing about that requires me to pretend that the very recent history there hasn&#039;t happened. You look the fool and make Americans look stupid and vicious when you peddle such nonsense. You are actually ruining our society by unhinging your dialog from reality, just like the leftists. And you don&#039;t even see it. How utterly sad for you.  </p>
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		<title>By: Dionissis Mitropoulos</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dionissis Mitropoulos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 23:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SAM000, i wish you good luck in your fight with the mullahs. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SAM000, i wish you good luck in your fight with the mullahs. </p>
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		<title>By: SAM000</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/davidhornik/obamas-courting-of-the-mullahs/comment-page-1/#comment-3793289</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SAM000]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 21:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the poll that says that 85% of the Iranians are fore nuclear BOMB is a Mullah&#039;s paid poll,  
The people who know me from 2005 on FPM forum know very well my history and RESISTANCE and who disclosed for the first time the very secret nuclear program of the Mullahs. 
Some of the key sites (Site FARDOO of the Qom city) which was revealed at October 2009 by the USA intelligences were denounced at 2005 by the Iranian RESISTANCE at Brussels in Belgium. 
Iranian RESISTANCE is popular Resistance, we gather our efforts and intelligence in our RESISTANCE ORGANIZATION. 
Nuclear is not the will of the Iranians, we know that the nuclear weapon will serve only the Mullahs regime&#039;s interest; 
 
I&#039;m not Jews, I&#039;m not Christian, Every body knows that I&#039;m Muslim, This is the reason why we should eradicate the race of Islamism from our country. 
This is the willing of all the Iranians. 
Did you know that Iran or the OLD PERSIA was the second country of the JEWS? 
We have the 4 important Jews Prophets Graves in IRAN. 
The Jews of Babylon were freed by GREAT KING KOUROSH of Persia at 535 B.J. 
The 4 Jews Prophets preferred to stay in Iran with other 40,000 Jews freed. 
We the Iranian Muslims, we go to pilgrimage to the 4 Jew Prophets Graves, 
ELIAS, EZRA, DANIAL, and HABGHOUGH have their Graves in 4 corners of IRAN. 
We believe that a good Muslim believe on MOSES and CHRIST. 
The Jews of Iran are the oldest Persians, they are pure Persians, The Iranian Jews who fled Iran to Israel, love IRAN. 
This Criminal Regime of the Mullahs is not IRANIAN, The Mullahs themselves admit that they don&#039;t care about IRAN. 
Israel is not our enemy, Israel needs to protect himself,  
glennd 1 has met and influenced by the anti Iranian traitors. 
His historic writings is based, while his appreciation from actual Iran is polluted. 
The Iranians don&#039;t want any type of nuclear, civil or Military, we don&#039;t want it, 
we have offered too many martyrs to disclose the mullahs nuclear programs. 
An external Military strike will never be helpful, USA of OBAMA supports the Mullahs to exterminate the Resistance, if USA stays inert, we will be able to overthrow the Mullahs, 
 ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the poll that says that 85% of the Iranians are fore nuclear BOMB is a Mullah&#039;s paid poll,<br />
The people who know me from 2005 on FPM forum know very well my history and RESISTANCE and who disclosed for the first time the very secret nuclear program of the Mullahs.<br />
Some of the key sites (Site FARDOO of the Qom city) which was revealed at October 2009 by the USA intelligences were denounced at 2005 by the Iranian RESISTANCE at Brussels in Belgium.<br />
Iranian RESISTANCE is popular Resistance, we gather our efforts and intelligence in our RESISTANCE ORGANIZATION.<br />
Nuclear is not the will of the Iranians, we know that the nuclear weapon will serve only the Mullahs regime&#039;s interest; </p>
<p>I&#039;m not Jews, I&#039;m not Christian, Every body knows that I&#039;m Muslim, This is the reason why we should eradicate the race of Islamism from our country.<br />
This is the willing of all the Iranians.<br />
Did you know that Iran or the OLD PERSIA was the second country of the JEWS?<br />
We have the 4 important Jews Prophets Graves in IRAN.<br />
The Jews of Babylon were freed by GREAT KING KOUROSH of Persia at 535 B.J.<br />
The 4 Jews Prophets preferred to stay in Iran with other 40,000 Jews freed.<br />
We the Iranian Muslims, we go to pilgrimage to the 4 Jew Prophets Graves,<br />
ELIAS, EZRA, DANIAL, and HABGHOUGH have their Graves in 4 corners of IRAN.<br />
We believe that a good Muslim believe on MOSES and CHRIST.<br />
The Jews of Iran are the oldest Persians, they are pure Persians, The Iranian Jews who fled Iran to Israel, love IRAN.<br />
This Criminal Regime of the Mullahs is not IRANIAN, The Mullahs themselves admit that they don&#039;t care about IRAN.<br />
Israel is not our enemy, Israel needs to protect himself,<br />
glennd 1 has met and influenced by the anti Iranian traitors.<br />
His historic writings is based, while his appreciation from actual Iran is polluted.<br />
The Iranians don&#039;t want any type of nuclear, civil or Military, we don&#039;t want it,<br />
we have offered too many martyrs to disclose the mullahs nuclear programs.<br />
An external Military strike will never be helpful, USA of OBAMA supports the Mullahs to exterminate the Resistance, if USA stays inert, we will be able to overthrow the Mullahs, </p>
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		<title>By: nightspore</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nightspore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 20:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whoa, you&#039;re going off the rails! The intellectual facade is falling away. Unbelieveable. 
 
I think your problem is that you didn&#039;t expect any intelligent responses to your &#039;definitive&#039; account. (And what&#039;s this nonsense about Yergin being a &quot;politicized source&quot;?) 
 
Verry interesting. Glennd1 you&#039;ve made my day. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, you&#039;re going off the rails! The intellectual facade is falling away. Unbelieveable. </p>
<p>I think your problem is that you didn&#039;t expect any intelligent responses to your &#039;definitive&#039; account. (And what&#039;s this nonsense about Yergin being a &quot;politicized source&quot;?) </p>
<p>Verry interesting. Glennd1 you&#039;ve made my day. </p>
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		<title>By: nightspore</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nightspore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 20:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems clear to me that for all your plethora of facts you&#039;re pushing the usual anti-American narrative, the same one that people use to justify the 9/11 attacks. We &quot;bullied&quot; X (where &quot;X&quot; is the Arabs, the Iranians, or whomever), so they responded by attacking us (or threatening or whatever). And this narrative is always presented as if it is some kind of &#039;deeper&#039; truth of the matter - when in fact in fundamental ways it&#039;s a comic-book distortion, and one that breeds complacency to boot. (In fact, I think that&#039;s why it&#039;s so appealing - with this narrative, you don&#039;t have to face the fact that there are deadly enemies who are not simply behaving in a rational defensive manner - and you may just have to fight them to survive. Not a pleasant thought for the modern suburban mind.) ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems clear to me that for all your plethora of facts you&#039;re pushing the usual anti-American narrative, the same one that people use to justify the 9/11 attacks. We &quot;bullied&quot; X (where &quot;X&quot; is the Arabs, the Iranians, or whomever), so they responded by attacking us (or threatening or whatever). And this narrative is always presented as if it is some kind of &#039;deeper&#039; truth of the matter &#8211; when in fact in fundamental ways it&#039;s a comic-book distortion, and one that breeds complacency to boot. (In fact, I think that&#039;s why it&#039;s so appealing &#8211; with this narrative, you don&#039;t have to face the fact that there are deadly enemies who are not simply behaving in a rational defensive manner &#8211; and you may just have to fight them to survive. Not a pleasant thought for the modern suburban mind.) </p>
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		<title>By: nightspore</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nightspore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 20:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now you&#039;re the one being &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; misleading. You refer to: 
 
&lt;blockquote&gt;... our offenses against the Iranian people. Two major ones are the overthrow of their democratically elected leader, Mousadegh, in the early &#039;50s ...&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
 
My comment clearly shows that this is an overstatement, since the actual overthrow happened internally (according to Yergin&#039;s account), i.e. by people within Iran. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now you&#039;re the one being <i>very</i> misleading. You refer to: </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230; our offenses against the Iranian people. Two major ones are the overthrow of their democratically elected leader, Mousadegh, in the early &#039;50s &#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>My comment clearly shows that this is an overstatement, since the actual overthrow happened internally (according to Yergin&#039;s account), i.e. by people within Iran. </p>
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		<title>By: Glennd1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glennd1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 16:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And notice that NightSpore has no response. Just like so many of the vicious thugs on this site, he possesses no knowledge that didn&#039;t come from a politicized source. So many &quot;web Islam experts&quot; on this site, but they know so much less than they think. One wonders why, as if they took just some of the time they spend here jerking off over Zionist agit prop and instead spent it reading some actual history books on the region, like say A Concise History of the Mideast by Goldschmidt and Davidson, or one of the other many fine, apolitical books on the topic they could easily rid themselves of their ignorance. Most of these clowns would be embarrassed of the lies they repeat every day if they did, but they won&#039;t because most of the apes here don&#039;t care about the truth, they are just flacking for the U.S. and the Zionists. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And notice that NightSpore has no response. Just like so many of the vicious thugs on this site, he possesses no knowledge that didn&#039;t come from a politicized source. So many &quot;web Islam experts&quot; on this site, but they know so much less than they think. One wonders why, as if they took just some of the time they spend here jerking off over Zionist agit prop and instead spent it reading some actual history books on the region, like say A Concise History of the Mideast by Goldschmidt and Davidson, or one of the other many fine, apolitical books on the topic they could easily rid themselves of their ignorance. Most of these clowns would be embarrassed of the lies they repeat every day if they did, but they won&#039;t because most of the apes here don&#039;t care about the truth, they are just flacking for the U.S. and the Zionists. </p>
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		<title>By: Glennd1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glennd1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 16:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What you seem to miss are the geo-politics of all this, SAM. Without our interventions, Iran would not be acting against us in the ways that they do today. Me? I don&#039;t give a crap about Iran or any of the countries in the mid-east, including the Zionist occupiers of Palestine. None of it is of strategic interest to us. Idiots respond to this kind of statement with shock, making fumbling statements about &quot;Israel being our closest ally in the region&quot; - (not even true, that &quot;honor&quot; belongs to the Saudis) or about oil when in fact the oil producing countries in the region have no choice but to sell their oil,  and actual U.S. dependence on Arab oil is much less than American&#039;s realize.  
  
You see SAM I think you should clean up your own people&#039;s messes. The Ayatollahs don&#039;t arise in a vacuum, and just like most Muslims, Iranians try to have it both ways. Here&#039;s the truth. The problem with Iran is that it&#039;s an Islamic Republic, based on Islamic law. If you are saying that you want a secular society and that the majority of Iranians agree with you, I say you are incorrect. While a minority of Iranians might want to, most Muslims in the region have been culturally trained to see a huge role for Islam in your society. We in the West already went through this with Christianity and we finally put religion in its place - a personal decision of conscience that has no business in politics or government. I laugh just writing such a statement - I wonder if even you, SAM, are willing to relegate Islam to such a trivial role?  
  
Or are you Jewish or Christian? You know I&#039;m right. And that&#039;s why I say we do this. Leave and tell Iran quite simply if they attack us in any way again, we will decapitate the regime completely - utter destruction of  the clerics, the govt, the IRG, Basijis, Hezbollah. And we won&#039;t occupy them afterwards. If the country descends into anarchy or another oppressive govt - I just don&#039;t care. You folks bring it all on yourselves and until you change your mindset you will not join the modern world. Me? If I never heard a thing about the mid-east again in my life I&#039;d be happy. It&#039;s not our problem. We are creating our own messes. We should stop punching ourselves in the face and asking, &quot;hey, who punched me?&quot; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you seem to miss are the geo-politics of all this, SAM. Without our interventions, Iran would not be acting against us in the ways that they do today. Me? I don&#039;t give a crap about Iran or any of the countries in the mid-east, including the Zionist occupiers of Palestine. None of it is of strategic interest to us. Idiots respond to this kind of statement with shock, making fumbling statements about &quot;Israel being our closest ally in the region&quot; &#8211; (not even true, that &quot;honor&quot; belongs to the Saudis) or about oil when in fact the oil producing countries in the region have no choice but to sell their oil,  and actual U.S. dependence on Arab oil is much less than American&#039;s realize.  </p>
<p>You see SAM I think you should clean up your own people&#039;s messes. The Ayatollahs don&#039;t arise in a vacuum, and just like most Muslims, Iranians try to have it both ways. Here&#039;s the truth. The problem with Iran is that it&#039;s an Islamic Republic, based on Islamic law. If you are saying that you want a secular society and that the majority of Iranians agree with you, I say you are incorrect. While a minority of Iranians might want to, most Muslims in the region have been culturally trained to see a huge role for Islam in your society. We in the West already went through this with Christianity and we finally put religion in its place &#8211; a personal decision of conscience that has no business in politics or government. I laugh just writing such a statement &#8211; I wonder if even you, SAM, are willing to relegate Islam to such a trivial role?  </p>
<p>Or are you Jewish or Christian? You know I&#039;m right. And that&#039;s why I say we do this. Leave and tell Iran quite simply if they attack us in any way again, we will decapitate the regime completely &#8211; utter destruction of  the clerics, the govt, the IRG, Basijis, Hezbollah. And we won&#039;t occupy them afterwards. If the country descends into anarchy or another oppressive govt &#8211; I just don&#039;t care. You folks bring it all on yourselves and until you change your mindset you will not join the modern world. Me? If I never heard a thing about the mid-east again in my life I&#039;d be happy. It&#039;s not our problem. We are creating our own messes. We should stop punching ourselves in the face and asking, &quot;hey, who punched me?&quot; </p>
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		<title>By: Dionissis Mitropoulos</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SAM000 you are right that all the West and especially America, which is the leader, should denounce any cooperation with the regime. 
 
But Obama will not do anything of the sort and the regime is going to have the bomb (or be very close to it) very soon. Naturally, Israel will have to attack the nuclear facilities. I understand you are telling me that the regime uses the threat of a western or Israeli military strike as an excuse for maintaining a state of emergency, and that this somehow prevents the Iranian people from overthrowing the regime. 
 
But if the strike occurs, then this excuse of the regime goes out the window. AFTER the strike, if it is successful in taking out the nuclear facilities, the regime won&#039;t have any excuse, because the West or Israel won&#039;t need to attack again for a long time. Wouldn&#039;t that make it easier for Iranian people to revolt? 
 
A related point that i wanted to ask you is this: I have read in a 2010 poll that the Iranian people support almost unanimously  the nuclear program (around 85% wanted to go on with it). Given that they know that the program aims at a weapon, isn&#039;t this a reason for the West to be alarmed and worry that even if there is regime change, the nuclear program will proceed as usual? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SAM000 you are right that all the West and especially America, which is the leader, should denounce any cooperation with the regime. </p>
<p>But Obama will not do anything of the sort and the regime is going to have the bomb (or be very close to it) very soon. Naturally, Israel will have to attack the nuclear facilities. I understand you are telling me that the regime uses the threat of a western or Israeli military strike as an excuse for maintaining a state of emergency, and that this somehow prevents the Iranian people from overthrowing the regime. </p>
<p>But if the strike occurs, then this excuse of the regime goes out the window. AFTER the strike, if it is successful in taking out the nuclear facilities, the regime won&#039;t have any excuse, because the West or Israel won&#039;t need to attack again for a long time. Wouldn&#039;t that make it easier for Iranian people to revolt? </p>
<p>A related point that i wanted to ask you is this: I have read in a 2010 poll that the Iranian people support almost unanimously  the nuclear program (around 85% wanted to go on with it). Given that they know that the program aims at a weapon, isn&#039;t this a reason for the West to be alarmed and worry that even if there is regime change, the nuclear program will proceed as usual? </p>
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		<title>By: Schlomotion</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 05:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting point. You said that the savages in the desert operate drones. ]]></description>
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		<title>By: Mary Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Sue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 05:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No problem, glad to be of help.  I know, right! ]]></description>
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		<title>By: SAM000</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SAM000]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 05:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have to read the post of glennd 1, below, it is based, well documented and referenced, 
CIA never denied his implication in the 1953 Coup d&#039;Etat against the democratic regime of Mossadeq. 
You are denying and transforming your own history. 
 
What glennd 1 refers as historic facts is exact,  
What I&#039;m opposing is glennd 1&#039;s own conclusion, 
glennd 1 takes the mullahs anti-west and anti-Semite behavior as the Iranians behavior. 
We the Iranians, we know that 26 years of the dictatorship of the Shah and 33 years the of Islamism genocidal is the outcome of the 1953 coup of CIA and SHAH and the ISLAMIC Clerics, 
We look at the history as a lesson, and we should learn our own faults from our historic lessons. 
A part of this lesson which is very important for us is that, CIA or KGB or Intelligence SERVICE of her &quot;Majesty&quot;, could never succeed a coup in any country without the help of the THUGS and occult forces. 
In our Iranian HISTORY, the CIA COUP of 1953 could never succeed without the help and participation of the AYATOLLAHS ( the Great Ayatollah KASHANI) leaded the thugs, glennd 1 says that some 800 thugs were brought by CIA to the cities, yes this is true, those thugs were the people who were under direct payment of the Ayatollahs. 
Of course party toudeh (Communist Party) had ordered to his members inside the army to stay inert and inactive, which is a treason.   
If the mullahs hate USA, it is not for the coup of 1953, because the Mullahs were with Shah and CIA against Mossadeq. 
the mullahs hate USA, because for other reasons that has nothing to do with the Iranians history; 
The mullahs hate Israel, because of their antisemitism. 
 
We do not hate Israel, we have no common borders with the Palestinians, we think that the two parties can negotiate for a stand able peace if the Mullahs do not interfere (Hamas and the Terrorist thugs who are funded by the Mullahs); 
 
glennd 1 thinks that we have to forget the present crimes of the mullahs and co voice the Mullahs against the Americans for what has been arrived 60 years ago. 
 
we hate Obama for his present appeasement and support of the Mullahs; 
We hate Obama for his active support of the Mullahs of 3 years ago. 
We sign and persist that 3 years ago, the Mullahs were 3 years behind the nuclear BOMB, now, we are at the threshold of a nuclear confrontation. 
 
So, there is nothing that we share with the Mullahs, we want the Mullahs exterminated, and we will do that, THIS IS OUR NATIONAL WILL. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to read the post of glennd 1, below, it is based, well documented and referenced,<br />
CIA never denied his implication in the 1953 Coup d&#039;Etat against the democratic regime of Mossadeq.<br />
You are denying and transforming your own history. </p>
<p>What glennd 1 refers as historic facts is exact,<br />
What I&#039;m opposing is glennd 1&#039;s own conclusion,<br />
glennd 1 takes the mullahs anti-west and anti-Semite behavior as the Iranians behavior.<br />
We the Iranians, we know that 26 years of the dictatorship of the Shah and 33 years the of Islamism genocidal is the outcome of the 1953 coup of CIA and SHAH and the ISLAMIC Clerics,<br />
We look at the history as a lesson, and we should learn our own faults from our historic lessons.<br />
A part of this lesson which is very important for us is that, CIA or KGB or Intelligence SERVICE of her &quot;Majesty&quot;, could never succeed a coup in any country without the help of the THUGS and occult forces.<br />
In our Iranian HISTORY, the CIA COUP of 1953 could never succeed without the help and participation of the AYATOLLAHS ( the Great Ayatollah KASHANI) leaded the thugs, glennd 1 says that some 800 thugs were brought by CIA to the cities, yes this is true, those thugs were the people who were under direct payment of the Ayatollahs.<br />
Of course party toudeh (Communist Party) had ordered to his members inside the army to stay inert and inactive, which is a treason.<br />
If the mullahs hate USA, it is not for the coup of 1953, because the Mullahs were with Shah and CIA against Mossadeq.<br />
the mullahs hate USA, because for other reasons that has nothing to do with the Iranians history;<br />
The mullahs hate Israel, because of their antisemitism. </p>
<p>We do not hate Israel, we have no common borders with the Palestinians, we think that the two parties can negotiate for a stand able peace if the Mullahs do not interfere (Hamas and the Terrorist thugs who are funded by the Mullahs); </p>
<p>glennd 1 thinks that we have to forget the present crimes of the mullahs and co voice the Mullahs against the Americans for what has been arrived 60 years ago. </p>
<p>we hate Obama for his present appeasement and support of the Mullahs;<br />
We hate Obama for his active support of the Mullahs of 3 years ago.<br />
We sign and persist that 3 years ago, the Mullahs were 3 years behind the nuclear BOMB, now, we are at the threshold of a nuclear confrontation. </p>
<p>So, there is nothing that we share with the Mullahs, we want the Mullahs exterminated, and we will do that, THIS IS OUR NATIONAL WILL. </p>
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		<title>By: posse 101</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[posse 101]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 04:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well said devdeep! ]]></description>
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		<title>By: SAM000</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SAM000]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 04:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These following statistics comes out from MOIS (Ministry Of Intelligence and Security) of the Mullahs regime; 
94% of the Iranians are for REGIME CHANGE. 
84% of the Iranians support the REGIME CHANGE by armed Resistance. 
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OBSERVATIONS; 
any time the west menaces the regime by a military operation or air strike, we have ETAT DE SIEGE in the cities. 
the Regime leaders repeat every day that the danger is coming from inside, they emphasize that, &quot;THE GREAT SATAN AND ZIONISTS ARE NOTHING, THE DANGER and ANNIHILATION of ISLAM is FROM INSIDE&quot; and they add, (THE GREAT SATAN AND ZIONISM CAN DO NOTHING AGAINST ISLAM WITHOUT THE HELP AND ASSISTANCE OF THE INTERNAL ANTI-REVOLUTIONARY UNDERGROUND FORCES&quot; 
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I think that every thing is clear, you don&#039;t need my opinion here. 
IF one day, not more, even one day, the regime removes his repression forces from the streets, the day after ISLAMIC REGIME WILL NO LONGER EXIST. 
 
We don&#039;t need an external military intervention,  
IF THE WEST INTERVENE in IRAN, we will stopped to finish the job, we should exterminate the race of ISLAMISM and all the traitors who were with this REGIME. 
All the signs and traces of Islamism should be washed and cleared from the Iranian Society. 
Islamism is Anti Christ, it is SATANISM. 
 
Everybody is free to practice his religion, But, the state should be free of the religion. Democratic and secularism is what the Iranians are fighting for. 
120,000 of Martyrs is a huge price that we have payed for our freedom, we will no longer let the SHAMEFUL PERSONAGE AS OBAMA TO DESTROY THE FUTURE OF IRAN. 
What we are waiting from the Americans and all the free and democratic world is that, THEY DENOUNCE OBAMA&#039;s deal with the Mullahs of IRAN, this costs us more lives. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These following statistics comes out from MOIS (Ministry Of Intelligence and Security) of the Mullahs regime;<br />
94% of the Iranians are for REGIME CHANGE.<br />
84% of the Iranians support the REGIME CHANGE by armed Resistance.<br />
===================<br />
OBSERVATIONS;<br />
any time the west menaces the regime by a military operation or air strike, we have ETAT DE SIEGE in the cities.<br />
the Regime leaders repeat every day that the danger is coming from inside, they emphasize that, &quot;THE GREAT SATAN AND ZIONISTS ARE NOTHING, THE DANGER and ANNIHILATION of ISLAM is FROM INSIDE&quot; and they add, (THE GREAT SATAN AND ZIONISM CAN DO NOTHING AGAINST ISLAM WITHOUT THE HELP AND ASSISTANCE OF THE INTERNAL ANTI-REVOLUTIONARY UNDERGROUND FORCES&quot;<br />
==================================<br />
I think that every thing is clear, you don&#039;t need my opinion here.<br />
IF one day, not more, even one day, the regime removes his repression forces from the streets, the day after ISLAMIC REGIME WILL NO LONGER EXIST. </p>
<p>We don&#039;t need an external military intervention,<br />
IF THE WEST INTERVENE in IRAN, we will stopped to finish the job, we should exterminate the race of ISLAMISM and all the traitors who were with this REGIME.<br />
All the signs and traces of Islamism should be washed and cleared from the Iranian Society.<br />
Islamism is Anti Christ, it is SATANISM. </p>
<p>Everybody is free to practice his religion, But, the state should be free of the religion. Democratic and secularism is what the Iranians are fighting for.<br />
120,000 of Martyrs is a huge price that we have payed for our freedom, we will no longer let the SHAMEFUL PERSONAGE AS OBAMA TO DESTROY THE FUTURE OF IRAN.<br />
What we are waiting from the Americans and all the free and democratic world is that, THEY DENOUNCE OBAMA&#039;s deal with the Mullahs of IRAN, this costs us more lives. </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Sue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 00:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah the wahhabis did get into Kenya though, where it infected the other side of his family. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah the wahhabis did get into Kenya though, where it infected the other side of his family. </p>
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		<title>By: Glennd1</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 21:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indeed it was very complicated - as all such episodes are. In fact we actually were drawn in by the freaking Brits - to whom massive blame for the mess in the mideast can easily be attributed. But your statement is the one that&#039;s misleading (while technically correct), as the uninformed reader might conclude that Eisenhower and Churchill didn&#039;t actively conspire and act to overthrow Mousadegh - nothing could be farther from the truth. A basic account follows, for those who&#039;ve never read anything about this.   
   
In 1951, Iran&#039;s oil industry was nationalized with near-unanimous support of Iran&#039;s parliament in a bill introduced by Mossadegh who led the nationalist parliamentarian faction. Iran&#039;s oil had been controlled by the British-owned Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC), now known as BP. Popular discontent with the AIOC began in the late 1940s, a large segment of Iran&#039;s public and a number of politicians saw the company as exploitative and a vestige of British imperialism. Despite Mosaddegh&#039;s popular support, Britain was unwilling to negotiate its single most valuable foreign asset, and instigated a worldwide boycott of Iranian oil to pressure Iran economically. Initially, Britain mobilized its military to seize control of the Abadan oil refinery, the world&#039;s largest, but Prime Minister Clement Attlee opted instead to tighten the economic boycott while using Iranian agents to undermine Mosaddegh&#039;s government. With a change to more conservative governments in both Britain and the United States, Churchill and the U.S. Eisenhower administration decided to overthrow Iran&#039;s government though the predecessor U.S. Truman administration had opposed a coup.Classified documents show British intelligence officials played a pivotal role in initiating and planning the coup, and that Washington and London shared an interest in maintaining control over Iranian oil.   
   
Britain and the U.S. selected Fazlollah Zahedi to be the prime minister of a military government that was to replace Mosaddegh&#039;s government. Subsequently, a royal decree dismissing Mosaddegh and appointing Zahedi was drawn up by the coup plotters and signed by the Shah. The Central Intelligence Agency had successfully pressured the weak monarch to participate in the coup, while bribing street thugs, clergy, politicians and Iranian army officers to take part in a propaganda campaign against Mosaddegh and his government. At first, the coup appeared to be a failure when on the night of 15&#8211;16 August, Imperial Guard Colonel Nematollah Nassiri was arrested while attempting to arrest Mosaddegh. The Shah fled the country the next day. On 19 August, a pro-Shah mob, paid by the CIA, marched on Mosaddegh&#039;s residence.According to the CIA&#039;s declassified documents and records, some of the most feared mobsters in Tehran were hired by the CIA to stage pro-Shah riots on 19 August. Other CIA-paid men were brought into Tehran in buses and trucks, and took over the streets of the city.Between 300 and 800 people were killed during and as a direct result of the conflict. Mosaddegh was arrested, tried and convicted of treason by the Shah&#039;s military court. On 21 December 1953, he was sentenced to three years in jail, then placed under house arrest for the remainder of his life.Mosaddegh&#039;s supporters were rounded up, imprisoned, tortured or executed.   
   
Just sayin... And again, my simple point is that the author of this article presented only one side of the ledger on Iran. I haven&#039;t said a single sympathetic thing about the Shia madmen who run Iran, in fact, I think they are one of the most repressive, despotic regimes on Earth. I just don&#039;t think going to war with them makes any sense FOR US. But you guys can&#039;t even hear that. Why? I&#039;m in no need of lectures about abstruse details of Iranian history, and none of what has been said above contravenes a single thing I&#039;ve said here.  
 
It&#039;s as though if I point out actual things that the U.S. has done, you guys seem to believe you have to lash out at me, regardless of my intent. Stop it, you are being anti-intellectual. If you can&#039;t grasp that our actions of against Iran over the years have been provocative - your are not dealing with reality. It&#039;s not debatable, it&#039;s a fact. Now, as far as Iran&#039;s actions against us, do we &quot;deserve it&quot;? Is it &quot;our fault&quot;? I&#039;m not saying that at all and such &quot;blame games&quot; are the stuff of 9th graders, not serious talk about geo-politics. Wake up, please. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed it was very complicated &#8211; as all such episodes are. In fact we actually were drawn in by the freaking Brits &#8211; to whom massive blame for the mess in the mideast can easily be attributed. But your statement is the one that&#039;s misleading (while technically correct), as the uninformed reader might conclude that Eisenhower and Churchill didn&#039;t actively conspire and act to overthrow Mousadegh &#8211; nothing could be farther from the truth. A basic account follows, for those who&#039;ve never read anything about this.   </p>
<p>In 1951, Iran&#039;s oil industry was nationalized with near-unanimous support of Iran&#039;s parliament in a bill introduced by Mossadegh who led the nationalist parliamentarian faction. Iran&#039;s oil had been controlled by the British-owned Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC), now known as BP. Popular discontent with the AIOC began in the late 1940s, a large segment of Iran&#039;s public and a number of politicians saw the company as exploitative and a vestige of British imperialism. Despite Mosaddegh&#039;s popular support, Britain was unwilling to negotiate its single most valuable foreign asset, and instigated a worldwide boycott of Iranian oil to pressure Iran economically. Initially, Britain mobilized its military to seize control of the Abadan oil refinery, the world&#039;s largest, but Prime Minister Clement Attlee opted instead to tighten the economic boycott while using Iranian agents to undermine Mosaddegh&#039;s government. With a change to more conservative governments in both Britain and the United States, Churchill and the U.S. Eisenhower administration decided to overthrow Iran&#039;s government though the predecessor U.S. Truman administration had opposed a coup.Classified documents show British intelligence officials played a pivotal role in initiating and planning the coup, and that Washington and London shared an interest in maintaining control over Iranian oil.   </p>
<p>Britain and the U.S. selected Fazlollah Zahedi to be the prime minister of a military government that was to replace Mosaddegh&#039;s government. Subsequently, a royal decree dismissing Mosaddegh and appointing Zahedi was drawn up by the coup plotters and signed by the Shah. The Central Intelligence Agency had successfully pressured the weak monarch to participate in the coup, while bribing street thugs, clergy, politicians and Iranian army officers to take part in a propaganda campaign against Mosaddegh and his government. At first, the coup appeared to be a failure when on the night of 15&ndash;16 August, Imperial Guard Colonel Nematollah Nassiri was arrested while attempting to arrest Mosaddegh. The Shah fled the country the next day. On 19 August, a pro-Shah mob, paid by the CIA, marched on Mosaddegh&#039;s residence.According to the CIA&#039;s declassified documents and records, some of the most feared mobsters in Tehran were hired by the CIA to stage pro-Shah riots on 19 August. Other CIA-paid men were brought into Tehran in buses and trucks, and took over the streets of the city.Between 300 and 800 people were killed during and as a direct result of the conflict. Mosaddegh was arrested, tried and convicted of treason by the Shah&#039;s military court. On 21 December 1953, he was sentenced to three years in jail, then placed under house arrest for the remainder of his life.Mosaddegh&#039;s supporters were rounded up, imprisoned, tortured or executed.   </p>
<p>Just sayin&#8230; And again, my simple point is that the author of this article presented only one side of the ledger on Iran. I haven&#039;t said a single sympathetic thing about the Shia madmen who run Iran, in fact, I think they are one of the most repressive, despotic regimes on Earth. I just don&#039;t think going to war with them makes any sense FOR US. But you guys can&#039;t even hear that. Why? I&#039;m in no need of lectures about abstruse details of Iranian history, and none of what has been said above contravenes a single thing I&#039;ve said here.  </p>
<p>It&#039;s as though if I point out actual things that the U.S. has done, you guys seem to believe you have to lash out at me, regardless of my intent. Stop it, you are being anti-intellectual. If you can&#039;t grasp that our actions of against Iran over the years have been provocative &#8211; your are not dealing with reality. It&#039;s not debatable, it&#039;s a fact. Now, as far as Iran&#039;s actions against us, do we &quot;deserve it&quot;? Is it &quot;our fault&quot;? I&#039;m not saying that at all and such &quot;blame games&quot; are the stuff of 9th graders, not serious talk about geo-politics. Wake up, please. </p>
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