Peace Faltering as Egypt Cuts Gas to Israel

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In recent days Egypt canceled its deal to sell natural gas to Israel, thereby reneging on one of the key planks of the 1979 Israeli-Egyptian Peace Treaty.

At least, that’s what some say, while others say it was only the Egyptian gas company that canceled the deal and not the Egyptian government.

Israel’s leading daily Israel Hayom cites “analysts in the Arabic press” who say “the national gas company could not have taken such a fateful decision without the go-ahead from the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, which effectively rules Egypt.” Yet Israel Hayom also mentions “senior officials” in the Israeli Prime Minister’s Office who claim that “the Egyptian government had not been involved in the decision in any way, and that it was a purely commercial move.”

Indeed, one of those downplaying the development is Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, who said: “We don’t see this gas cutoff as something that is born out of political developments. This is actually a business dispute between the Israeli company and the Egyptian company.” Yet his finance minister, Yuval Steinitz, said: “This is a dangerous precedent that overshadows the peace agreements…between Israel and Egypt.”

One can sum it up simply by saying that: the cutoff is not a good development; and since the fall of former Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak in January last year, the Israeli government has consistently downplayed negative developments and held out hopes that the Israeli-Egyptian Peace Treaty will endure. Bumps in the road since Mubarak’s ouster have included:

● The bombing of Egypt’s gas pipeline in Sinai no less than 14 times

● Sinai’s deterioration into a badlands dominated by Bedouin gangs and terrorists, leading to last August’s terror attack on southern Israel

● The subsequent storming of the Israeli embassy by a mob in Cairo and near-lynching of six of its workers

● The overwhelming victory of Islamists in Egypt’s parliamentary elections

● The firing of a rocket from Sinai into Israel’s southern coastal resort of Eilat

● A furious backlash in recent days against Egypt’s Grand Mufti for merely visiting Jerusalem, with MPs and others demanding that he step down

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  • stern

    Of course everyone is denying that it has anything to do with the peace deal. Admit that Egypt really, really hates Israel and that the Egyptians really, really hate Jews and you will have to admit that any peace deal with Arabs (and Palestinians are Arabs) is nothing but an illusion. And then what are you going to do? No more "peace process". No more "two-state solution". No more kidding ourselves that we are accepted in the Middle East. Gee, we may actually have to fight back again.

    • Looking4Sanity

      Kill them all this time. No mercy! You cannot negotiate with blind hatred. You cannot have "peace" living surrounded by murdering terrorists. The vast majority of Americans support Israel…even if the current regime does not. And…we will be solving that problem in November. Hang in there! Help is coming.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        Obama won't admit they're murdering terrorists. That says a lot about him, don't you think?

        • Looking4Sanity

          I have to believe that there are enough sensible Americans left in this country to throw his bony butt out of office this November. If I am wrong in that belief, then he is actually the very least of our problems.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            The supreme court is one of our last hopes. That scares me.

          • Looking4Sanity

            As well it should, my friend. We're standing on the razor's edge. If we fall off there is no coming back. The "Grand Experiment" will be over…lost forever. America was Earth's last best hope for a civilized society and it seems we're pissing that responsibility right down a rat hole. I blame an apathetic and overly indulgent society.

        • patriothere

          Obama will not admit Israel is a bandit state of murdering terrorists. You're right.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why would he? They're not.
            And why can't you remember how to use your profile?

      • patriothere

        I'm an american and I don't support that atheist murderous state of israel.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          You're an Iranian centric muslim friendly troll who is paid to post here.

          6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
          I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

        • Looking4Sanity

          You're an A hole who doesn't even have enough respect for his country (if you're not lying about that…a very real possibility) to capitalize it's name. I suspect thou art a rag head.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            A rented mouth from Iran.

          • Looking4Sanity

            That's my take on it.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I keep telling it to get a real job, you know driving nuclear scientists to work through swarms of motorcycle driving Jews holding sticky bombs.

          • Looking4Sanity

            LOL! Now, THAT'S funny! ;o)

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Something voted us down, they must realize it's funny too!

  • Rodney

    Read Psalm 83 and you will see that very soon, in fact sooner than we all realise, there is going to be a middle eastern war in which Israel and the true God are going to give these terrorists a good hiding. God's foreign policy for Israel is this: Bless Israel and be blessed but curse Israel and you will certainly be cursed. Don't take my word for it. Read a Bible; all the facts are there for all to see. Psalm 83 is just one of the many prophesies that are in the process of being fulfilled.

    • Asher

      Nations lining up against Israel as foretold by prophet Ezekiel in ch. 38 Rosh, (Russia) Magog, (Central Asia), Meshech, (Turkey) Persia, (Iran) Ethiopia, (Sudan) Put, (Libya) Gomer, (Turkey) Iraq, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt.) Truth is coming out and the world must realize that we are all in decline…Wars and Rumors of Wars coming to pass as foretold in Matthew Ch. 24. Man turning against his brother. We will forever stand with Israel! God's policy for Israel is very clear. Zechariah 12: 2-9 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of drunkenness to all the surrounding peoples, when they lay siege against Judah and Jerusalem. And it shall happen in that day that I will make Jerusalem a very heavy stone for all peoples; all who would heave it away will surely be cut to pieces, though all nations of the earth are gathered against it. In that day," says the Lord, "I will strike every horse with confusion, and its rider with madness. God's intentions are very clear!

  • StephenD

    I prefer to site Isaiah 19 when speaking of Egypt. Very powerful chapter. Look it up on line. http://www.bibleontheweb.com/Bible.asp
    The fact is that Egypt will listen to the counsel of fools and turn against Israel and against each other for a time. What WE in the West must NOT DO is turn our back on Israel, regardless of the pressures from all directions. To my mind, November‘s elections can’t come soon enough so we can have a fighting chance again.

    • Asher

      Yes, The bible is 100 % true friend! You don't need to be a scholar to figure out whats happening…read the scriptures.

    • johnnywoods

      I can see November from my house:)

    • mlcblog

      cite

  • Larry

    Time to move Israel's southern border to the Canal and punt all the arabs and Egyptians in Gaza and the Sinai to the Egyptian side of the Canal.

    And for good measure, whilst Syria is distracted, punt the ones in Judea and Samaria over the Golan Heights.

    • ziontruth

      "Time to move Israel's southern border to the Canal…"

      It would be a good idea to set Israel's south-western border to west of the Suez Canal; then, every time the Islamics threaten Israel with their oil taps, Israel retaliates with a threat of blockading the canal to their ships.

      I'd love nothing more than to see my nation and its state making the threats for a change. Since we're already accused of "controlling the world" anyway, might as well make it worthwhile…

    • Saltire

      Israel probably should have better negotiated when giving the Sinai back to Egypt. But, that was the price of peace at the time.

  • jacob

    It is a known fact that the Egyptian military has been itching for a rematch with Israel not so much after
    the Six Days War debacle but rather the Yom Kippur war which they feel was snatched from their claws
    by international intervention (meaning US) and they have been quite open about the issue…
    OBAMA decided to keep subsidizing and arming them behind CONGRESS back and I can't help but remembering seen in my first visit ot Israel in 1972, city blocks size, full of brand new Russian armor
    and cannon Israel brought back from the Sinai after having defeating Egyptian forces and sending
    them back almost naked to Egypt where, in typical Arab bravado, NASSER dressed and armed them
    back and then parading them in Cairo streets as "victors'…..
    Is it possible that, with the "Brotherhood" OBAMA holds in such high esteem in power, such rematch
    may take place for ISRAEL to replenish its military stores with freee military US hardware, courtesy of
    its "ALLY", good old USA President OBAMA ????

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      Obama's muslim heritage shows more and more as time goes on.

  • jacob

    It will pay for the Egyptian Brotherhood to keep in mind their vulnerability in the event of a war with
    Israel they seem to be so itching for, if Israel decides to take out their ASWAN dam…..
    Not that they give a damn for the lives that will be lost but their own rotten skins as well…..

  • Marty

    Israel has already assumed that egypt will destroy the peace treaty. I visited Israel last month and everyone I spoke to has no hope that egypt will live up to its treaty obligations. The hatred egyptians have toward Israel and Jews is well documented. As the economy in egypt worsens, the government will naturally blame Israel for their country's problems and threaten war. This is a very old refrain repeated regularly throughout the miserable arab world. The current administration in Washington will do nothing useful, of course. Israel is prepared for and will win the next war, but the price will be very high. Israel should occupy the sinai and never return it until or unless egypt ever develops an authentic democracy, a most unlikely prospect.

    • stern

      And this time, Israel should also not bow to foreign pressure and must keep fighting until the war is well and truly won. Then her enemies will no longer be able to claim "victory", as the entire Arab world does for the 1973 war, and as Hizbullah and Hamas do for their more recent entanglements with Israel.

  • Sage on the Stage

    Egypt will destroy their peace treaty with Israel, or make it imperative that Israel strike the first blow. Israel is
    hoping against hope that this won't happen. Israel will win the war, and retake the Sinai, but who knows what Hamas, Hezbollah, or Iran will do. If Hamas, Hezbollah, or Iran do nothing, then an Egyptian-Israeli war will be a local struggle, but there is slight possibility of that. Iran might do nothing, but Hezbollah and Hamas, Iran's proxies, will likely attack Israel. If Iran closes off the Straits of Hormuz, then we'll have an escalating conflict; and Obama will be forced to act.

  • Choi

    "if Israel decides to take out their ASWAN dam.."

    I've always liked THAT thought.
    Let's see how the Muslim Brotherhood learns to swim in Waterworld.
    Cairo as ATLANTIS works.

  • http://www.maghrebchristians.com Youssef

    U.S. pastor Terry Jones, a self-professed scourge of Islam, has threatened to “burn Qurans and images of Prophet Mohammed” if a Christian religious leader in Iran is not released from jail, he announced on his organization’s website this week.

    Jones has set a deadline of 5 p.m. on Saturday April 28 for the release of Iranian pastor Youcef Nadakhani otherwise he warned of a repeat of last year’s Quran burning which led to widespread rioting and deaths around the world.

    Read more: http://www.maghrebchristians.com/2012/04/24/terry

    Youssef

    • johnnywoods

      Terry Jones is a foolish man who should be ignored by all.

  • Stephen_Brady

    Was this a "birthday present" from the Egyptians to Israel? Perhaps Israel is preparing its own "gift" to Egypt.

    Is there anyone except the crazies on the Left who think the entire world was worse off during the time of colonialism? Imagine … Egypt still controlled by Britain.

    • WilliamJamesWard

      Maybe Egypt controlled by Joseph……………………….William

    • Chezwick

      One thing is certain old friend….the "bad old days" of colonialism was the apex of religious freedom in Egypt and the rest of the Muslim realm.

      • Stephen_Brady

        And equatorial Africa is certainly better off without those evil Europeans, right?

    • Dominic

      what a nice egypt there would be.

  • WilliamJamesWard

    If strategy has any place in the Middle East, it sands to reason that weakening Israel in every way before
    and attack is understandable. Tightening the screws on Israel seems to be at and all time high and to
    deny what is going on and acting like all is allright is nuts. What is this Israeli strategy, is it taken from
    Mullah Obama, his great enlightenment, "I will talk with them", how's that working out. This pathetic
    cry, "Like me, please like me, kill me, destroy me but like me"……..damn the world and all anti-Semites,
    Israel must take the position of strength and enforce it's will demanding agreements be lived up to or
    pay a heavy price. The leadership of every Islamist Nation uses Israel as the fall guy for their miserable
    failures to produce decent lives for populations that they have no care for whatsoever. Israel
    must get the truth out to these people while taking the role of the big guy on the block who must be
    dealt with honestly or take the rap for disrespect and deceit. Israel must expand it's borders as laid
    out in Scripture to Abraham………………………………………..William

    • johnnywoods

      I have heard that Israel has discovered natural gas in there neck of the woods. How is that working out? It would be nice if Israel could tell the Egyptians to take their gas and go to Hell.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger
      • WilliamJamesWard

        Israel has it's secrets and should not let the World in on anything, from past experience trust_can be a big mistake. Until there is a reliable Administration and the Obama regime has been cleaned out it is
        on it's own and I think they know this. The Egyptians are sinking and will be in real trouble in short
        order…………………………………..William

  • Chezwick

    For decades, Mubarak's government would – as a survival mechanism – wave the red-meat of Jew-hatred in order to deflect popular discontent from other issues…and the public response was predictable. Today's decision by the Egyptian military is similar. They are not leading public opinion, they are being led by it. The ruling council is clinging tenuously to power…and they comprehend the Jew-hatred and the animus towards Israel that literally defines the collective Egyptian psyche, so they are sacrificing the peace-process in order to placate the street.

    The real issue here is not the duplicity of Egypt's leadership, it is the virulent hatred of Israel and Jews that grips the Egyptian people. It is hatred that in fact permeates almost the entire Muslim world. To understand it necessitates an honest exposition of both Islamic theological intolerance and Muslim cultural proclivity….but as is so amply evident, we in the West have no stomach for facing such an ugly reality.

  • maria

    Liberals/Leftists domestic in Israel and foreign ones pushed Israel to give up territories including Sinai for just mere " blank paper". Islam don't know word "peace" but only "Hudna" which means temporarily halt of military actions to reorganize and make military stronger. Now the same Leftists force Israel to give up Judea and
    Samaria and Jerusalem…actually all Israel. It is suicide to return any Jewish land which was liberated from Arabs aggressors, invaders.
    BHO is MB proxy. His Cairo speech triggered all that "Arabs "spring"" which is radicalization of Muslim's world.
    Muslims declared "Islam will dominate" and they act accordingly. Stupid, corrupted Leftists are betraying not just only US ally but themselves and their own children. Israel destiny is Western civilization destiny.
    No more Obama in WH after Nov election.

  • g_jochnowitz

    Dubai, perhaps inspired by Egypt's gas-pipe actions, has decided to exclude Israeli cardiolotists from an international meeting. http://www.jpost.com/Health/Article.aspx?id=26746

    • Stephen_Brady

      Then, Israeli cardiologoistsl should refuse to treat the good people of Dubai. It's easy. Tit-for-tat, and Dubai needs Israel …. though they would ever admit it …. much more than Israel needs Dubai. After all, right across the Persian Gulf is Iran …

  • Schlomotion

    According to P. David Hornik, if the gas station refuses to sell me gas I can kill them, citing a breach of the peace.

    • Dr. John

      Would you kindly quote where Hornik said that?

  • Schlomotion

    As with most of the writers here, he loaded the title of his article to show that refusing to sell gas to Israel is a breach of the peace. The opposite of peace is war, is it not? What is the primary activity in a war? Killing the enemy is it not? Or do you fail first order predicate calculus?

    • Dr. John

      You're obviously a dip who's not worth talking to. No, saying another side is violating a peace agreement is not the same as saying you're going to kill him, just for the record. It's saying he might be gearing up to try and kill you again…in which case, yes, you should defend yourself. But I'm casting words vainly to the wind, with no adult human brain to receive them.

      • Schlomotion

        Perhaps you got the right brain, but you're using just the wrong woids.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          No, he's not.

          Yawn… you don't aspire. You flatulate.

          • Schlomotion

            I have to. According to Hornik, failing to provide gas is a capital offense.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Are you sure it wasn't the dancing ponies that sing and to cheers in your head?

  • Pyeatte

    If Egypt is bent on war with Israel, so be it. This time when Israel takes back the Sinai, it will be for keeps. Then the people of Gaza can be relocated across the canal to Egypt. If that is not enough fightng for the Arabs, Israel can take over the west Bank and relocate the people there to Jordan. Israel can use the land, and of course, keep the Golan Heights.

  • wctaqiyya

    The Egyptian ruling military council may have stopped the gas arrangement because it wasn't working very well. Look, it was blown up 14 times right? Instead of admitting that they can't control it, they say up yours to Israel. This serves to cover their incompetence and placate the mobs at home. To conclude that Egypt will now try to invade Israel is a large and irresponsible leap. First, all the other times they did it, they tried to keep it a secret. Shutting off gas is a clue. Second, they got their asses handed to them. Third, they need to keep their tanks operational and their troops healthy so they can retain control of the country. If they attack Israel, they will be obliterated and lose domestic control. I will bet one dollar to a donut that Egypt and Israel are working on a gas swap arrangement right now with one or more third parties that will keep the home fires burning. If they haven't already done so. Those generals are not idiots, they remember what kind of an ass-whooping the Israeli army can give them. Further, their best equipment is now American and would need U.S. spare parts, etc. Take a deep breath people.

  • mlcblog

    For an understanding of the delicate balance in that area of the world, I suggest Leon Uris' Exodus.He portrays the thinking of those Arabs and Jews attempting negotiate matters back in 1967 and I think is a helpful account, not to mention an enjoyable book. No wonder they made it into a very popular movie.

  • Jesusinator

    You two must have the same pimp then. Does your husband know you're a w hore?
    Tell me how much can a fat w hore like you make a night?

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      My my, did someone put you in your place? Are you laying there afraid someone will flush now?

      • Jesusinator

        Pretty sure no one has put me in my place. Especially cowards and pigs like you two. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          You don't
          'need' put in your place, you're desperate to stay there all on your own.

          • Jesusinator

            And my place is right here making sure the christian pig roger is not bullying anyone. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Saysthepigchewinguppearls.

          • Jesusinator

            Ever hear of a space bar? <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Ever hear of living your life without letting hatred control it?

          • Jesusinator

            I do it everyday. Maybe you shouldtry it. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            So you do have a sense of humor. That will be a huge comfort to the Christians you lock inside that burning church.

          • Jesusinator

            I wanna see the comment so I will ask. What chirstians would I do that to? <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Such a short attention spanYou just keep circling the drain hoping no one flushes twice.

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  • ziontruth

    "Thou shalt not kill comes to mind."

    The correct translation is Thou shalt not murder. Neither Genghis Khan nor Gandhi are supported by the Torah.

  • Looking4Sanity

    I hope you stand with the terrorists. That would be so convenient.

  • Ricky Michael

    Correct ziontruth, well done.

  • patriothere

    Neither are the gentiles. I know. Love your neighbor is only referring to your fellow jew. I am a stranger. Not a neighbor.

  • Ricky Michael

    Since when have I ever cared what LSD said (I typed that correctly this time.)

    ziontruth's statement is a correct translation.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Not all rattle snakes bite people.
    And no rattle snake is safe.

    Can you tell me which muslim taught out of the koran is safe, even if living peacefully?
    9:29 Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.

  • Eyes_Open

    Breathing air near a smoker isn't safe, so should all smokers be killed?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    If they don't behave, and it's a choice of us or them?

    I'm for taking the militant smokers out.

    Of course the example you gave is a very poor analogy.

  • Eyes_Open

    So if they don't follow YOUR rules YOU can kill them and that is ok, perfectly within your religious bounds.

    You see, Christians are still willing to kill to get their way, and make up whatever excuse you want to justify it within your religion. You haven't changed in the last 1600 years.

  • Ricky Michael

    Here is an overview of how Jesus is in fact the King of Kings. While here on earth, his work was as a servant, he was to cleanse his children of their sins, which wasthe will of God the father. The classic example of his duties here on earth is demonstrated by the washing of the aspostles feet.

    After his death and resurection, he took his place as King. He rules now with earth as his footstool. He will return one day here to earth. There will be no question in anyone's mind who he really is and if he is the King of Kings.

    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here.”
    John 18:35-37

  • StephenD

    Wee,
    yeah, you probably are smarter than everyone else. You've got it figured out! We are just too simple to not believe so you go ahead with that. Stay comfy in your own understanding. Looks like you are actually following a few scriptures anyway. What comes to mind is:
    2 Timothy 3:7 “Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.”

  • Ricky Michael

    Like it or not, there is more than just the Bible as historical record that he did exist. And, since he did exist, he is either who he said he is or the most infamous liar that ever lived.

    Like it or not, he is King of Kings and rules now with grace. One day he will not (with grace).

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Not really. You have been shown wrong day after day and you still pretend nothing was ever explained. You begin each day as if you have never been shown to be wrong.

    So, you ignore the histories, Josephus, everything. And you revert to the beginning mantra of your talking points. You clearly aren't here to do anything other than to antagonize not just Christians but any sane reasonable people.

    Why are you such a troll?

  • Ricky Michael

    Hahaha, you be sure and tell him that when you see him.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You offer hatred and bigotry towards Christianity. That's all.

    And you are a conformist sheep that's why you always ignore everything explained to you.
    And you are a result of what?

  • StephenD

    For your edification: Romans 2:14

    You really should read the entire chapter. It may help clear some things up for you. Keep in mind, I'm not well versed either but I know it is the TRUTH.

    For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness….

    Essentially it is saying we all know right from wrong. Even in other cultures as you say, each person knows to be true to their word, to not take what isn't theirs, etc. So yes, to answer your question, there is and always was a way provided for mankind to know the truth.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    My rules? Why is it unreasonable to not want people to want to kill me out of religious duty?

    You see, you're silly and pretend to be a pagan when you clearly defend islam. You make up anything you want (al taqiyya) to try sneakily making any points you think might make everyone but muslims look bad.

  • WeeToddEdwards

    Yeah and I debunked all that with facts.

    Go away troll you are still on the ignore list

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    What facts?
    That someone at the time wrote a book about it that the Catholic Church had the nerve to include in the Bible? How does that Make the gospel of John unreliable? Nothing you said made sense or proved a thing. An actual eye witness, what better source to use when talking about life of a man?

    You're the one who refuses to face facts. You just have nothing better to do sitting at your government desk using a tax payer funded terminal to spew administration friendly talking points.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Your ignore list is pretty long.All facts you don't like.All sources you don't like, regardless of who reliable they are.And of course, anyone that dares expose the prior two.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And He'll say "I told them not to Kill".
    And what will your comeback be then?
    Matt 19:18

  • Ricky Michael

    Now, I will share with you what happens to you after your soul leaves your body. I have no proof and you will not believe this, no one else believes me either, including my wife.

    You will find yourself floating in absolute black darkness. Then you are drawn, against your will toward the light. A shimmering tunnel develops around you. During that trip you are shown your entire life, in 360 degree vision, and you know exactly how others felt as you were interacting with them (both the good and bad.) At some point, all knowledge hits you like a tidel wave. You understand everything, all the whys God does what he does. There will be no questions in your mind if what you did was right or wrong.

    You can either believe me or not. I don't care, but I have been there and was sent back. You have not, yet that is.

  • WeeToddEdwards

    But he knew they would do it before he created them <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    No, it's not suspect.
    You simply refuse to accept anything that doesn't agree with your mantra.

    And you're still at a work terminal during business hours with days off the coincide with government holidays.

    How coincidental, of course.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    It goes back to free choice.

    He knew you would hate Him before you were born, but He still allowed you the chance to make your own choices.

  • Ricky Michael

    I checked your link and I have read all this before, many times. It has been written by someone who hasn't had it happen to them. When it does, it is as real as it gets. There will not be any proof of this until you go yourself.

    Luke 16:31
    New King James Version (NKJV)

    31 But he said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.’”

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Of course, and you say that sitting at your work terminal for hours on end.

    What agency do you work for, the office of 'push back' reflecting the white house work against Christianity?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Isn't it nice to have people who read and make sure they're dealing with facts? The people 'debating' with you don't get that.

  • Ricky Michael

    Thanks, this is just another reason why hardly nothing ever bothers me. I love life and all it has to offer. I will be here as long as he needs me here.

    I do enjoy all three of you. (WTE, Eyes and Roger) All three of you are so very interesting.

  • Eyes_Open

    I was talking about the fact that you said you would kill all smokers, how you got anything about Islam from that only your therapist knows. And as far as I know there isn't any religion that requires you to smoke.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    How nice for you.
    That explains so many of the other things you say.

    Tell the pink dancing ponies in your head that their sparkle is wearing off.

    I notice you always divert attention when you want to lie but aren't sure how. All this is just your style, and it still does nothing to disprove what I had just said.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Why don't you go back and read my actual comment instead of trying to spin it into something I didn't say?

    You silly silly pagans. You're just all alike.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    More verbal flatulance.

    You have nothing. Just an abundance of hate.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    I used all sorts of sources, this morning it was referencing a first hand witness of Christ's life. You tossed it aside and never addressed if it was actually a first hand witness of Christ's life.

    You just attacked who had used it since. That's not a valid test.

  • WeeToddEdwards

    Well your first mistake is thinking I read all your comments and replies to me. I delete most of them. Pretty sure though any sources or links a couple days ago I debunmed with other reliable non – biased links <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Wee, I've known you refuse to become informed for a long, long time.

  • WeeToddEdwards

    I knowall information coming from you is suspect and most is inaccuarte <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You know that since you have an agenda based against my beliefs you will not like what I say.

    There, fixed it. And you still ignore any evidence you don't like. Like the dozens of times people have dismantled your failed claims about Hitler.

  • Ricky Michael

    Are you wearing your disguise this morning?

  • Eyes_Open

    Question from Eyes_Open
    "Breathing air near a smoker isn't safe, so should all smokers be killed? "

    Reply from Roger
    "I'm for taking the militant smokers out. "

    Now if I can read that so clearly, how is it that you can only twist that into something about Islam, You can't even rearrange the letters to make it about Islam.

    Silly little want-to-be Christian.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You can't do it, can you?
    I said this.

    "If they don't behave, and it's a choice of us or them?

    I'm for taking the militant smokers out.

    Of course the example you gave is a very poor analogy."

    I never said what you're trying to say I said.
    What a silly, silly pagan.

  • Jesusinator

    Maybe <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • Eyes_Open

    You just said it again bozo,

    "I'm for taking the militant smokers out."

    That's bad when you don't even know what your typing, then you type it again and still don't get it.

  • Ricky Michael

    He doesn't look like the picture you are using. His hair color is dark brown. His face was narrower. Yours makes him look plump, he wasn't.

  • Ricky Michael

    I must say you have some guts going over there on that website saying that. They will come after you.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You said this.
    "Breathing air near a smoker isn't safe, so should all smokers be killed?"

    But in your style and drive to be accurate I'm going to quote you as saying this.
    '…all smokers be killed…"

    Why do you want all smokers killed? Are you as violent as wee?

  • Ricky Michael

    Okay.

  • Ricky Michael

    I've quoted that one to him myself.

  • Ricky Michael

    Yeah, its always the ones who in a very quiet soft voice, tell you "they are going to kill you," that you need to worry about.

    We Christians are just too busy running around the country cursing the barren figs trees because Mr. Eyes thinks we should because Jesus did it.

  • Ricky Michael

    With your superfical literal reading of the scriptures you never do get the messages being taught. There is a whole world of interesting things within a deeper study of God's word that you miss.

    But wait, that would likely destroy all your really good anti-religious propaganda. We can't have that.

  • Eyes_Open

    ROFLMAO

    You have been schooled so bad that your arse is still burning isn't it.

    Good try but anyone can look at the thread above and see that you are the troubled one calling for the murder of innocent people.

  • Ricky Michael

    There is a verse about rightly dividing the word of Truth.

    A lot of people don't do that. That is a failure on their part, not God's.

  • Looking4Sanity

    Terrorists are NOT innocent. For that matter…neither are you for taking their part. As far as I'm concerned, you can share their fate.

  • Looking4Sanity

    I wasn't aware that this article was about smokers…moron.

  • Looking4Sanity

    Yes…and by now I'm sure he's discovered that he can't thumb people down more than once no matter how many accounts he runs. That must be very frustrating for him. What a pathetic worm.

  • Eyes_Open

    This thread is ….. moron!

  • Looking4Sanity

    Your inability to stay on topic falls squarely in the realm of “not my problem”…moron. Your expectations of sucking adults into your juvenile attempts at misdirection are, to say the least, unrealistic.Squirm as you might, you cannot escape the fact that you claim to be an atheist…but take the part of Muslim terrorists. At the very least that makes you a hypocrite. I stand by my assessment that you are just a vile POS.

  • Looking4Sanity

    Yes…you ARE "sorry"… "sorry" having the meaning of low, base, common, trifling, and vile. You are, indeed, one sorry POS. I look forward to exposing that truth to an entirely new audience. Thank you for the opportunity!

  • Looking4Sanity

    Kev, you can't expect this brain dead POS to follow a conversation or adhere to the fundamental laws of logic. It's just too much to ask from snake excrement.

    Nice to see YOU again, though! Hope all is well.

  • Looking4Sanity

    More lies from a liar…how unremarkable.

  • Looking4Sanity

    Gee…I can't imagine why </sarc>. Now I've got to get back to framing out my new chicken coop…lol.

    Be well my friend. Better times are coming!

  • Jesusinator

    I only do it once.

    Try again

  • Looking4Sanity

    A disingenuous POS like Wee can't comprehend that comparison. White of you to explain it though!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    I don't remembering you saying any priests were gay.

    Did I miss it or is Wee just a hate filled bigot?

    And btw, this points even with his parallel profiles voting aren't doing very well on that pakistan site.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Isn't it time you start in on Hitler again? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-m0bUd1ofw

  • Looking4Sanity

    Well, Roger, I am willing to concede that there are Catholic priests with homosexual tendencies. To do otherwise would be to blind ones self to the truth and established legal facts. Fortunately, I'm not Catholic so I don't have to worry about it personally.I'm pretty sure that Wee was raised Catholic and was molested by his priest resulting in his retreat to atheism. It's perfectly understandable even though unjustifiable. It's all reflected in his “the ends justifies the means” paradigm. After all…it's so easy to justify being a worthless POS if you take God out of the equation, right? That's what we're dealing with here…a hopeless denier. I pity him his eternal fate.I may sound heartless in my conclusions, but I base my opinions on my understanding of God's concept of justice…not Man's. Many people think that God is a hard Master, but I think they lack the ability to see beyond their own perspective.

  • Jesusinator

    Points are not suppose to be going good over there

  • Jesusinator

    I notice he deleted it

  • Looking4Sanity

    Whater his reasons were for doing that, I'm sure it had nothing to do with you…wormtongue.

    Some people don't like to be perceived as arguing with idiots. I do not suffer from that affliction.

  • Jesusinator

    Of course it was because of me.

    Now stop being a stupid b itch and listen to your husband.

  • Jesusinator

    No problem LDS.

    You're welcome.

    How chirst like. IS that what he taught?

  • Jesusinator

    You are projecting again lady

  • Looking4Sanity

    Your mother called and wanted me to tell you she divorced your father because he is gay.

  • Looking4Sanity

    YOU don't even believe in the guy, so how hypocritical is that for you to even ask?

    What's even funnier is that you spend so much time distorting the teachings of a book you consider to be pure hokum! You don't even make the mark as a second rate hack or charlatan.

    Consider this a rhetorical spit in your smarmy face.

  • Jesusinator

    I told her to call and mess you with you.
    Can't believe she did. She is such a joker

  • Jesusinator

    But you do that is why I ask.
    "We are never to treat that person as an enemy (2 Thess 3:15)"

  • Saltire

    Yes, they are. Hope you are well, Ricky. Just checking in to let you know I am still around.

  • Eyes_Open

    Read the thread dumb arse, the question has nothing to do with terrorists.

  • Eyes_Open

    Again, you show your inability to follow a simple thread. It was Roger that originally went off topic, I just followed to prove what an idiot he is. And my job is done.

  • Eyes_Open

    What gets me is that in one post you say that it is a metaphor, allegorical, and isn't to be taken literally. So the meaning would be, not to disobey or disappoint Jesus because he will curse you to wither. But when it is put in that light, you say that people and trees are to totally different things so it should be taken literally, that he would only curse a tree not a person.

    So which is it? Literal or allegorical? It can't be both by the mere definitions of the words.

  • Ricky Michael

    It's Allegory. Never does Jesus ask or require any of his followers to kill, period. They are to do good works. If they don't then, they after death will be numbered with the lost. We are under a period of grace. All punishment comes after death. This is a summary of the scriptures on this subject for you. Your conclusions do not match all the related verses. You must look at everything on the subject. You make the same mistake that the apostates make when they use this kind of thing to justify their actions. You cannot single out one scripture and ignore the rest.

  • Ricky Michael

    Good morning Mr. Saltire. Good to hear from you again. I see that Miss Looking4Sanity and all her buddies have found this thread. One of my comments went from a +6 to a -1 over night. Very funny. It doesn't matter if what I said was Biblically correct or not. (It was.) This sir, is a popularity site. If you don't like someone you TD them to death. Of course they are not capable of debating me on the Bible so they do drive by TDs.

    It is so entertaining. How can you stay away from something like this?

    The only real man among them is Roger. He will stand up for what he believes and is no coward. That's why I like him a lot.

    Have a nice day.

  • Ricky Michael

    Good morning Mr. Satanator, how are you doing?

  • Ricky Michael

    Well little Miss LSD and all her buddies found all my comments from yesterday. On one of them I went from a "plus " 6 to a "-"1 over night. Very entertaining.

    She and her homies are not capable of debating me on the Bible so they do drive by TDs.

  • Eyes_Open

    But as an allegory, Jesus himself is killing that which doesn't obey him. And in the following verses, tells his companions that if they have faith in him and obey him that they can do this as well, and more. They can remove mountains from their way, which could be expanded to mean they could destroy armies that stood in their way. Nowhere does Jesus tell them that they mustn't destroy those that disobey or stand in their way.

  • Eyes_Open

    I wonder if they know that it doesn't effect a persons Rep score after you pass 80? Or do they think it is actually doing some kind of "harm". LOL

  • Jesusinator

    Yep, nothing but cowards <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • Jesusinator

    Good morning, I am fine and yourself? <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • Ricky Michael

    We have been told, through Paul.

    Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all, especially to those who are of the household of faith.
    Galatians 6:9-11

  • Ricky Michael

    that's why it funny. all it does is show how small minded they truly are. Fine examples, huh?

  • Ricky Michael

    Oh, I am doing peachy. Just out whining about TDs from cowards who don't have the knowledge or guts to make a comment.

    I think if I ever get another comment (a negative one) from Miss LSD, I will play games with her. She might need to meet Tricky Ricky.

  • Eyes_Open

    "as we have opportunity" apparently many of those Christian just haven't found the opportunity.

    Which gives me reason to believe your friend Roger isn't really a Christian in good faith, Galatians 5:19-21 would doom him to an eternity in the Bar-B-Que pit wouldn't it?

  • Jesusinator

    She is a hateful woman. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • Ricky Michael

    He is following his conscience on this. I will not judge his heart here.

    If you want him to stop, then don't do what he considers an attack on Christianity. It doesn't bother me, its just words that will be remember in the end. All of us, including myself will give an account for our actions here. The difference, I have become a Christain and the blood of Christ covers my improper actions. And, I truly try my best to keep the commands of Christ.

  • Ricky Michael

    If it is her, then yes she is. Who can know for sure in a drive by. I glad she can't use a machine gun.

  • Eyes_Open

    He considers everything an attack on Christianity, or at least his type of Christianity.

    19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery,[c] fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders,[d] drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

    Lewdness, hatred, outburst of wrath. I think that fits him to a Tee.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Such as yourself and your parallel profiles?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    No it's not. You ask a hypothetical and then only take a few words of my entire answer to say something I never said.

  • Ricky Michael

    That's judging his heart by your standards.

    Annoying, isn't listed in your scripture here.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Yes, when you say all monotheistic religions are the same (clearly they aren't) then it's an insult and a verbal attack.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And it has nothing to do with anything.
    It was just a hypothetical question so you could have me say something. You didn't care what I said, you just wanted something so you could take a few words from that answer and twist it into something it wasn't.

    You can't actually debate, what to call it?
    I'm too polite to say.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You're just a hired paid hack mouthpiece.
    Is there much money in being a 'rented mouth'?

    Still can't remember how to sign into your profile?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    LIke you do?

  • Jesusinator

    Nope, and I have one other account I use to get away from you. I have been using it most of the day. It is nice to leave comments without having the wannabe bully roger russel stalking me <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • Jesusinator

    Nope, you do it all the time to. Common trait from chirstians pigs like yourself <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • Jesusinator

    She would not be able to hit anything with a full automatic and a 100 round drum. Women thugs have bad aim <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Sure, and I'm supposed to take that as seriously as you don't work for a government agency sitting at your work terminal spitting out propaganda all day long?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Not at all.
    Facts by themselves stand on their own merit. We don't' need to 'project' them. But even if we did, that's really a good thing.

    You should watch and learn how to deal with reality. It might come in handy some day for you.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Expecting you can tempt her to throw pearls to swine?

    You just don't get it do you?

  • Ricky Michael

    Ha, when my wife and I were taking our CHL tests I had a pie plate pattern on my target, I thought. The instructor tells me, you would have a perfect score if it weren't for this one here, pointing at the 380 hole dead center of my target's crouch.

    I asked him, does that look like a 9 mil hole? then we both looked at her turning away from us sinckering.

  • Jesusinator

    I really don't care how you take it. You are insignificant so your opinion does not matter. Go corn hole LDS somewhere <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • Jesusinator

    This is your reality. This is not a real reality. Reality does not exist on the internet.
    Facts you have never used them. You use biased sources on blogging web sites. You use your opinion and expect eveyone to take it as cold hard facts. When you so called "facts" are debunked you resort to childish immature tactics, change the subject, and send out very weak insults. You are no warrior for your so called god, you are no defender for chirstianity, just an insignificant internet blogger that thinks the world revolves around him. Someday you will get slapped in the face with reality and probably kill yourself (hopefully) since you will not know how to deal with it. I recommend cutting your wrist when you do it so you bleed out. However a nice 45 round to the head will do the trick but since you have domestic abuse and sexual molestation charges you are not allowed to own a firearm.

    You can't deal with reality online roger. You just proved you have no life

  • Jesusinator

    I don't care what the fat b itch does. Probably eating twinkies right now crying in the corner <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Of course, that's 5000 comments after you started showing just how little you think of what I say.

    What you do speaks louder than your words.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    So, as you chew up pearls, what do they taste like?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    I just proved that you're owned and an empty shell.

    A small little man by any name.

    You can't show Hitler followed a single teaching of Christ.
    You can't show any one that follows the teachings of Christ hurt anyone, or do bad things.

    You just show your own bigotry.

  • Jesusinator

    No, I don't let me you bully me like you do others. I refuse to let you win at your own game. Your opinion still does not matter to me <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • Jesusinator

    Never had them so IDK <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Says the man who wants to burn an ENTIRE town of Christians in a locked church without even knowing who if any of them were involved or in what.How is that for bullying? You are just so busy chewing on pearls you don't realize what a pig you are.

  • Jesusinator

    The only thing you proved is that you think the internet is reality. You proved this is your life. When was the last time you went a day without making comments on ID? It has been years. You were even on here on chirstmas how pathetic. You have never owned me and you never will and I will tell you why. When I get off the computer for the day the last thing I think about is you or any of this c rap. You are still posting replies to long after I sign off for the day which proves you think about me all the time. You obssession with blogging on ID and always having the last comment shows you are unable to be social with people in the real world. You know in the real world if you acted like this your teeth would be knocked down your throat. So in order to escape the harsh real world reality you come on here and act like some warrior for god. Newsflash for you ace. You're not. Nothing you do on here matters in the real world NOTHING <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • Jesusinator

    says the man who uses my comments out of context. Give it a rest, oh and BTW I will not play your game on KATU. I will force you to be nice to me on there though and agree with my comments and their is nothing you can do about it

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  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You don't bother knowing about things, as long as you have an excuse to jump to conclusions.And you're still chewing on pearls.That's why the Bible says not to throw them to swine.As long as you are against Christianity and the Bible we're not to waste it on you.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Is this the best you can do?Sitting at your work terminal paid to spew propaganda, this is the best you can do?Really? How did you get that job?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And what context makes that more reasonable?That you have a temper?That you jump to conclusions?That you want to believe the worst about any group of people?Explain it so it actually makes sense 'in context' of course.

  • Jesusinator

    Well I was spot on. I don't need to do any better, Putting your profile together was easy. You are a simple uneducated fool <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • Jesusinator

    You leave out why I said it. Show me one person on this planet who does not jump to conclusions <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You were spot on the talking points that a paid propagandist would be using.I'm the one with the reality problem but you're not the one with a book. Call it what you will, you don't have one.So, who is stuck in the internet reality and warped by it?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    David Axelrod.Dr. Ezekial Emanuel.Of course they want evil, but they know exactly what they're doing.

  • Jesusinator

    You are. We already established that <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You keep trying to make that case.
    And in your warped internet reality it might make sense.
    But not in the reality everyone else lives in.

  • Jesusinator

    Buddy, you're the one who lives online not me. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Well mr I don't like on line, why is it that in the last 4 months you have more comments than I do?

    Hmmm? Where are the links to your books? Hmmmm?

    Well, how is the little world you live in? Do you spray hate on everything to keep the landscape comfortable for all your pretend friends?

  • Jesusinator

    I don't write failed books like you do. I do not have more comments than you in the last 4 months either. I do not spend that much time spreading hate like yourself

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You write "No" books and you only write 'failed' comments

    And you have as many comments for months now.

    So, you are either a liar or just confused, in any event you can't be considered as credible here.

  • Jesusinator

    How can I have as many comments. I don't spend 17-18 hours a day on here 7 days a week. You are the one confused. I don't need to write failed books like. But if I did they would sale better than your cr ap. You can say my comments have failed, but I own you everyday on here so what does that say about yours? You smell of faliure. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    If I smell of failure it's because you dropped some and I stepped into it on the floor.

    You have posted as many comments as I have for the past several months. And you keep leaving a trail of hate and bigotry.

  • Jesusinator

    Maybe you need to learn math???? You fail AGAIN <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Speaking of learning math, why don't you check the number of comments you have and the number of comments I Have. Then think back about 3 months. I've gotten 4,500 and you gained 5,000.

    Well, aren't you just special now….