U.N. Says ‘Aye’ to Palestinian Terror State

Late Thursday evening, Israel time, the UN General Assembly voted to confer nonmember statehood on the Palestinian Authority by a sweeping majority.

Even Israel’s hopes of putting together a “moral minority” of Western-country nays had crumbled, with France and Italy pronouncing themselves in favor of the Palestinian nonmember state and Britain and Germany abstaining. Israel, the United States, Canada, and the Czech Republic stood virtually alone in opposing the move by Palestinian Authority president Mahmoud Abbas.

The nonmoral majority of Western countries ratified Palestine (actively with ayes or passively with abstentions) even though doing so is a blatant violation of the Oslo Accords they had once piously sanctioned. And they did so even though last week and the week before, Gaza—where almost half of Palestinian Authority Palestinians live—had fired 1600 hundred rockets at civilian targets in Israel, every single firing a manifest war crime intended to kill and injure men, women, and children.

It is said that the Gaza eruption led some European countries to change their minds and vote in favor of the resolution (or abstain) so as to strengthen Abbas’s “diplomatic” approach over Hamas’s violence. Abbas’s diplomatic polish and peacemaking disposition were well in evidence when he addressed the General Assembly in September, saying among other things:

During the past months, attacks by terrorist militias of Israeli settlers have become a daily reality, with at least 535 attacks perpetrated since the beginning of this year. We are facing relentless waves of attacks against our people, our mosques, churches and monasteries, and our homes and schools; they are unleashing their venom against our trees, fields, crops and properties, and our people have become fixed targets for acts of killing and abuse with the complete collusion of the occupying forces and the Israeli government.

As Israel’s UN ambassador Ron Prosor noted in a stinging op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, “Many countries in the Assembly are taking an approach to Palestinian statehood that is…Pavlovian…. For decades, the body has rubber-stamped any Palestinian whim no matter how ill-advised, ill-conceived or illogical.”

Prosor went on to list some glaring shortcomings of the Palestinian Authority/Gaza that—seemingly by any normal calculus of Western countries—would disqualify it rather than qualify it for statehood, such as:

● Lack of control over territory, with Abbas’s Ramallah-based, official Palestinian Authority having had zero control over Gaza since Hamas seized power there in 2007. Prosor could have added the tenuousness of Abbas’s rule in the West Bank itself, where towns are run by clan-based extortion gangs and Israeli forces are all that prevents a Hamas takeover.

● The fact that Gaza is a terrorist state in every sense of the term, “a haven for global jihadist organizations like al Qaeda,” a beachhead for Iran in its ongoing war for Israel’s annihilation.

● The fact that democracy has not exactly flourished in Islamist Gaza or, for that matter, in the West Bank, where “journalists, bloggers and activists continue to be jailed and tortured…for crimes such as ‘extending their tongues against the Palestinian President’” (see reports here and here).

● The fact that the Palestinian Authority is bankrupt, totally dependent on foreign aid, yet “devotes 6% of its annual budget to payments for imprisoned terrorists and the families of suicide bombers”—while using its educational autonomy to instill a culture of hatred of Israel.

And to all this Europe voted yes—or at best took refuge in a cowardly neutrality.

It has been widely observed that, while General Assembly resolutions are nonbinding and lack standing in international law, the promotion to “state” status will give the Palestinian Authority access to world bodies like the International Criminal Court in The Hague, where PA figures have already threatened to file claims against Israel for “war crimes,” “occupation of a sovereign country,” and the like.

Considering the authority’s dependence on Israel and the West both to stay solvent and keep from being swept away by Hamas, many believe these threats are just bluster and the weak, aging Abbas won’t really seek such confrontations. The Israeli leadership, for its part, is taking a wait-and-see approach. On Thursday night U.S. senators were already threatening to cut aid to the Palestinian Authority and the UN.

But even if the General Assembly vote remains on the symbolic plane for now, the Palestinian access to the ICC entails future dangers for Israel and constitutes a victory over it. Those wondering about Israel’s “right-wing” or “nationalistic” tendency these days can find some explanation in the cynicism displayed by almost all the world’s countries in the General Assembly on Thursday.

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  • http://www.adinakutnicki.com AdinaK

    David, we both know that a PA State would be a genocidal one. That ship has sailed. And we also know that the international community – under the umbrella of the UN mafia clique – wants nothing more than to deconstruct Israel. That ship has sailed too.

    However, what about the fact that the 'PA people' are NOT a separate people, as several Arab leaders have stated over the years, and all clear, historical thinkers know as well? http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/09/27/another-arab-

    The most salient question becomes:our haters will never state this in the UN halls of disrepute. Fine. But why haven't Israel's leaders?

    In fact, the opposite is true. PM Netanyahu jumped on the PA bandwagon, albeit with caveats of it being non-militarized. But the fact of the matter is that NO state can dictate to another about their military requirements! it is illegal to do so. Bibi knew this, but went along with international dictates about adding a PA (terror) state to the community of nations!.

    And the nanosecond that Abbas revealed his plans, should have been the moment in time that Israel's leaders ripped up the Oslo Peace/Death Accords, as it was their right AND obligation to do! But we are ruled by fools and knaves, not a statesman among them – http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/07/15/israels-ship-

    In effect, our leaders will be the death of us. We won't have to wait for the jackals at our throats!

    Adina Kutnicki, Israel – http://www.adinakutnicki.com/about/

    • wildjew

      “PM Netanyahu jumped on the PA bandwagon, albeit with caveats of it being non-militarized….”

      Governor Mitt Romney’s surrogate seized upon Netanyahu’s jumping on the PA bandwagon when Republicans formulated our national party platform last August:

      “The draft platform, written by the Romney campaign and committee aides states, “We envision two democratic states, Israel with Jerusalem as its capital and Palestine…” which drew fire from several members of the platform committee.

      Three separate amendments to the draft platform were offered and shot down after Sen. Jim Talent, a Romney surrogate who is tasked with ensuring the platform document is in line with Romney’s policy proposals, objected to each.

      Minnesota delegate Kevin Erickson offered two of the amendments, which would have removed the line, replacing it with tough language on terrorism.

      Erickson said he didn’t want to pressure the Israeli government by specifying the conditions of an ultimate peace.

      Talent reportedly quoted Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to demonstrate that the original platform language was consistent with the Israeli position. Buzzfeed notes that the language will still be voted o by the full Republican convention.

  • Shalom Freedman

    It is discouraging to know that the world community consists in cynical opportunists, ideological fanatics, totalitarian liars. It is discouraging to see support given to the long- time peace-deniers. It is disheartending to see the continual unfairness to the Jewish state.
    On the other hand sixty- five years later the Palestinians are petitioning to attain far less than they would had they accepted Partition. And where are the Palestinians today in terms of any kind of political, social, economic development in comparison to Israel?
    It is another case I believe of the dogs barking on the caravan continuing on. Israel will continue developing its society while the Palestinians will be figuring out new ways to condemn and demonize it, and do nothing real for themselves.

    • New Yorker

      "the Palestinians will be figuring out new ways to condemn and demonize it, and do nothing real for themselves."

      There is little else they can do for themselves. What they already do is real enough and define their "national" aspirations. "Palestinians" are the Sudetenland Germans of today. What happened at the U.N. yesterday was more or less a modern day equivalent of the Munich of 1938, with the cowards, fools, gangsters and other miscreants who happen to constitute the "international community", trying to pull off another diplomatic atrocity sacrificing a small nation. Isn't it why the Czechs had voted "no" to this whole charade because they actually remember what was done to them 74 years ago? The vote to recognize a gangster outfit as a state at the expense of a beliguered nation is a crime of historic proportions and those who voted for it as well as those who cowardly abstained are accomplices in this crime.

    • Drakken

      Those savages will sooner or later meet their demise, and they in a blind stupor will wonder why? Good riddance to the terrorist state of Gaza, thrown them into the sea and call it a day.

  • κατεργάζομαι

    One of the most dangerous outcomes of this Arab propaganda campaign, is that it has convinced well-meaning people around the world (including some Israeli and American Jews) – that being pro-'Palestinian' means that you are for a peaceful solution that will give a people called "Palestinians" (who are not really culturally or historically separate from any other Arab group) their own country called 'Palestine' next to Israel, where they can live in peace.

    This entire belief is a deliberately conceived lie, – - that, from its inception in 1964, – - – was always intended to be used to destroy Israel.

    We cannot count on a person or government to be our friend if he also considers our enemy his friend.

    Ignoring the abundance of contrary evidence, even President George W. Bush and the entire US State Department remain some of the most powerful adherents to that false belief.

    Bush still speaks of 'occupied Palestinian land' and 'illegal Israeli settlements' from which he is determined to create the country of 'Palestine'.

    • Stern

      Excellent post – but just one little quibble. The idea of a state of "Palestine" living side by side with Israel was not born in 1964. Yes, the PLO was born then, but its mandate then – and now – was to replace Israel with the "state" of Palestine. Judea and Samaria were then under the control of Jordan and Gaza was ruled by Egypt. The PLO expressed no desire whatsoever to change that.

      • κατεργάζομαι

        Shalom. Not too shabby for a shiksa, nu?
        Another fact hardly mentioned by the "new historians" is that the arriving Jews never threw anyone off any land. All land was purchased legally. Palestine's early Jewish Zionists were idealistic pioneers who arrived in the pre-state Israel with every intention of living in peace alongside their Arab neighbors.

        The vast majority of Arabs came to the area after these early Zionist pioneers began draining the malaria-infested swamps and plowing the land!

        Most of the Arabs in "Palestine" were interlopers and squatters originating from Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq and other lands who simply took possession of pieces of land. So much for their unfounded claims that they have been there since "time immemorial!"

        These Arabs came from disorganized collections of tribes with a tradition of constantly terrorizing each other and trying to seize land from their neighbors. Look today at Egypy and Syria.

        • Stern

          Exactly! the problem is that the Arab narrative has become so pervasive that despite documented evidence demonstrating everything you've said, people still call Israel "illegitimate"!

          By the way, if you haven't read "Palestine Betrayed" by Efraim Karsh, I highly recommend it.

          • κατεργάζομαι

            Re: insufficiency of documented evidence….it is because it is a spiritual battle. According to Scripture G-d GAVE the Land of Israel to the Jewish People. And G-d does nothing by accident! amen.

            The Arabs and/or Muslims of today control 22 nations… 99½ percent of the ENTIRE Middle East land mass while Israel occupies only a 1/2 of 1 percent speck on this same map.

            But that's still too much land for the Arabs to spare. They want it all.

            Thanks for the book info. I will look into it.

        • Rick Potter

          This whole issue sickens me… including the fact that Israel carved for itself a nation by the use of terrorism. This included murder, bank robberies, bombings of hotels, markets and buses, grenade attacks on police and civilian targets, kidnapping and assassinations. Read your history and quit being selective. Both sides have been acting like nothing more than schoolyard punks for centuries. Israel unfortunately is reaping some of what it sowed and taught the Palestinians… “kill enough of them and create enough hatred and chaos and you can get a country!” Google “Irgun”, “Lehi”, “King David Hotel” and “The Sergeants Affair” to see just a little. I think the entire area needs to be occupied by peace keeping forces because these children clearly can not function properly if left to their own devices! Shame on the Palestinians!! Shame on the Jews!! Neither can claim the higher ground in my opinion.

          • Drakken

            You either side with the muslim savages? Or the civilized citizens of Israel, there is no moral equivilancy between the two. Israel is a western ally, the muslims are not and never will be, so pick a side and be prepared for the the consequences.

          • Zionista

            the so called "palestinians" have for years called for the destruction of Israel and it's arabs and muslims around the world that openly want the same thing. shame on you!

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "This whole issue sickens me… including the fact that Israel carved for itself a nation by the use of terrorism."

            OK. Back up that statement with facts. Got any? No you don't. You repeat lies. You should be sick, when you see your true soul.

            "This included murder, bank robberies, bombings of hotels, markets and buses, grenade attacks on police and civilian targets, kidnapping and assassinations."

            Yes of course. Selective editing of world history is always fun. It's not like there was any global empire involved, just poor "Palestinian victims" getting hurt by the Jews? Do you have any clue what lies you're repeating?

            "Read your history and quit being selective."

            The Islamic supremacists are clever. The know they're lying and they know how informed people respond, so they reverse the accusation before they hear it themselves. You are so typical. You talk like a jihadi. Are you a jihadi or a wannabe?

            "Both sides have been acting like nothing more than schoolyard punks for centuries."

            Then why do you care?

            ""kill enough of them and create enough hatred and chaos and you can get a country!" Google "Irgun", "Lehi", "King David Hotel" and "The Sergeants Affair" to see just a little. "

            Yes, use google to find out the "facts" about the controversy between a religion with 1.5 billion members (and texts that explicitly instruct adherents to lie) AND OPEC backing vs. a few million Jews. I'm sure whatever shows up at the top will be so accurate and truthful if you only select the events the jihadis want you to talk about.

            "I think the entire area needs to be occupied by peace keeping forces because these children clearly can not function properly if left to their own devices!"

            That is not possible right now with so many duped liberals infiltrating the US government, and we tried it with the UN already several times. Ever hear of the OIC you silly dupe? You don't mind that one of the world's largest religions wants to kill you, and is fully integrated in to a totalitarian system of government that is allowed to operate openly at the UN? You call yourself informed and chastise others about selective reading of history? I'm speechless at this point in the audacity or ignorance you display.

            "Shame on the Palestinians!!

            Shame on them and their enablers. That includes you.

            "Shame on the Jews!!

            It's not really about Israel then, is it?

            "Neither can claim the higher ground in my opinion."

            Confessions of a dupe.

          • JacksonPearson

            Facts are not your best friend:
            ISLAM: "The Religion of Peace (and a big stack of dead bodies). Islamic Terrorists Have Carried out More Than 20,016 Deadly Terror Attacks Since 9/11."

            BTW, since Mohammed wet dreamed faux Islam in 620AD, 270 mil people have been slaughtered world wide by the "Religion of Peace." Over thrice as many as Stalin and Mao combined.

          • Mary Sue

            That entire thing falls apart when you take a look at what was going on before then. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was a frigging NAZI and he taught all Palestinians to be Nazis. You can't rationalize with that.

            The Arabs don't belong there if they can't play nice.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "Another fact hardly mentioned by the "new historians" is that the arriving Jews never threw anyone off any land. All land was purchased legally. Palestine's early Jewish Zionists were idealistic pioneers who arrived in the pre-state Israel with every intention of living in peace alongside their Arab neighbors."

          And many lives were sacrificed to Muslims for decades trying to prove that, before they made any effort to even so much as defend themselves from the psychotic murderers.

  • κατεργάζομαι

    Divest the U.N. of American taxpayer funding. Move it to Gaza, and make The Muslim cabal fund the damn mess!

    ~ General Assembly
    ~ Palestinian Authority
    ~ Muslim Brother HOOD
    ~ International Criminal Court in The Hague, and the UN.

    ………… are why God created the middle finger for American taxpayers.

    • http://sbaziuk@sympatico.ca cornell

      Super idea, Katya.
      Canada courageously and altruistically sided with Israel.

      • Mary Sue

        Yep, and on top of that they're taking the extremely sensible step of threatening to withdraw funding from the Palestinians if they pursue "war crimes" charges in the Hague against Israel.

    • objectivefactsmatter
    • Mary Sue

      Canada is considering withdrawing funding from the Palestinians if they pursue prosecution of Israel for "war crimes" in the ICC Court in the Hague.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    On Thursday night U.S. senators were already threatening to cut aid to the Palestinian Authority and the UN: http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article

    "Democratic Rep. Howard Berman, the committee’s ranking member, referred to the Palestinians’ “profoundly regrettable effort to achieve statehood recognition through a UN vote rather than through direct negotiations with its neighbor Israel.”

    He warned that should the Palestinians take advantage of a UN victory Thursday to “internationalize their claims” by taking cases to international courts and not returning to the negotiating table, “I have no doubt that the impact on US-Palestinian relations will be devastating.”

    However, a few members of Congress have taken a different position on the Palestinian move.

    “This vote should be seen as an opportunity, not an obstacle, for peace between Israel and the Palestinians,” Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minnesota) said in a statement, which suggested the US use this moment to restart negotiations for a two-state solution and encourage Palestinian moderates.

    “It would be a mistake for the United States to punish the Palestinian Authority. Punitive measures against the Palestinian Authority will strengthen extremists and diminish US influence in the region,” he said.

    –Would I be a racist if I pointed out that the naysayer is a Muslim and closely tied to CAIR and other MB organizations?

    F them. F the UN too. F whoever supports those who wish to destroy Western civilization. This should mean war, but so far it means just rolling over for these totalitarian lunatics.

    By the way, I really like applying "lunatic" to them. It makes a lot of sense given what they worship.

    • http://www.themadjewess.wordpress.com MAD JEWESS

      OFM:
      Cant ya just see how 'peaceful' the Palis will be after this….?

      • objectivefactsmatter

        "Cant ya just see how 'peaceful' the Palis will be after this….?"

        As peaceful as Islam usually is, but probably doubled.

  • David R

    The UN is stacked with gullible cowards and most members are there for their own glory, oblivious to reality. By giving more meat to the wild dogs of this world, they are literally nailing their own coffins and assuring the eventual annihilation of the righteousness they are supposed to collectively uphold. The Dark Age is ahead and this last UN vote is just another step to our self-destruction.
    But there's hope ahead…for true Christians and God's blessed Jews. The Day of Messiah is fast approaching and very soon Christ will totally destroy all the God and Jew-haters of this world.
    So let the UN and Israel's enemies from all nations unite…it's God's prophetic plan anyway…leading these blind fools to their own ultimate bloodbath.

  • Hugo Lawrence

    As I listened to Abbas give his address to the UN I thought there should have been a team of people in bio-hazmat suits storming the hall. The amount of fecal matter that was sprayed generously around clearly constituted a hazardous situation (though the vast majority of the people sitting there had long since grown immune). I heard one gentleman (political analyst, can't remember his name at the moment) who later said that this move accomplished NOTHING of value. The only thing it did was to raise expectations yet again, to an unrealistic point. I can't agree more. It will not be long before the people are once again disappointed. Imagine that! How could it be possible that such an empty, unrealistic and misguided course of action, as taken by the UN, result in NOTHING that benefits either side. The UN has once again proven it's irrelevance, and the PA has once again shown (for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear) it's unwillingness and/or inability to truly pursue peace. Hugo

  • Rostislav

    I've read Mr. Prosor's article in the link to the WSJ with interest, but I'm not a diplomat, so my feelings are rather different: I think, that in 2012 the very post of Israel's ambassador to the UN looks even more fantastic than, say, in 1936 some post of the World Jewish Congress' ambassador to the Third Reich would be looking. Because the gone Third Reich was just a single anti-Semitic state, while the present-day UN is a whole hungry pack of these states. Hence, Mr. Prosor's final words "When the foundations for lasting peace are in place, Israel will not be the last nation to welcome Palestinians to the U.N. We will be the first" sound to me as beautiful but absolutely hollow rhetoric – at least with a kind of the UN I see. Rostislav, Saint-Petersburg, Russia.

    • Guest

      The first official act of the Supreme Soviet in 1917 was to declare "antisemitism" a capital offense.
      Solzhenitsyn said Bolshevik Jews went on to murder over 60,000,000 Russian Christians.
      Jews including you "Rostislav" have a big account to pay Russia.

      • Rostislav

        I am not a Jew. I am a Russian. I have my "big accounts" too, but I never pay them to countries – always to politicians or to their voters. Rostislav

        • Mary Sue

          I think that guest is assuming that you have a "russian jewish" name.

  • Asher

    Does anyone recognize the UNs authority to do this…they are a bogus institution, and the US should be separated from them…they cannot negotiate this crappy deal without Israel's ok and input…talk about Usurpers of freedom and Human rights……they are the worst of the worst!

    • Mary Sue

      I sure as ___t don't. I didn't vote for anyone in the UN, I don't know anyone that does, I never got my ballot, so eff 'em.

  • Steve Chavez

    "MOVE THE UN!" The only reason why it isn't closed, is that we have every office and embassy bugged including our own. Today's problem though is that the ones listening to these secrets, policies, and strategies AGREE WITH THE MAJORITY OF RADICAL NATIONS so nothing is done. This means our intelligence services have been infiltrated with Communists, Jihadists, and Internationalists who blame and hate the U.S. too.

    The Seeds were Planted in the 80's with all the CPUSA fronts who were funded by the Soviet KGB. Every department has been infiltrated and now Obama's "Circle of Communists" head every department and the White House itself. Our enemies are now Obama's friends and our friends, like Israel, are his enemies even though he says he has their back but only says so to appease FAKE JEWS who continue to vote for him and don't care about Israel and even blame Israel which should raise red flags!

    THE UN WILL BE OUR DOWNFALL. Sooner or later, a rouge nation will use its diplomatic plane to wipe out New York itself with a nuke, made or given to them by Putin, and maybe use other countries planes in a coordinated attack on major cities east and west.

  • Brujo Blanco

    It would not surprise me that any act of self defense on the part of Israel would again be viewed by the international community as an act of aggression. Now that we have a terrorist state I believe there is a real danger that Israel may have to face military attacks from just about any country buying into the lies about Israel being an aggressor nation. Israel is in danger of annihilation and they are standing alone. I fear that the USA is complicit.

  • κατεργάζομαι

    The Arabs and/or Muslims of today control 22 nations… 99½ percent of the ENTIRE Middle East land mass while Israel occupies only a 1/2 of 1 percent speck on the map.

    But that's still too much land for the Arabs to spare. They want it all.

    • dr.music

      Get real dude…the arabs want the planet and our women and children.

  • Hip Hop

    Dear Frontpage,

    Thanks for the three day vacation. It gave me time to track down the real names of most of the DEBKA subscribers. I posted them here:
    http://cryptome.org/2012/11/DEBKA-list-Real-Names

    It is a shame this website no longer engages accurate, free speech when it contradicts the goals of Hasbarism.

    • Drakken

      Go Pound sand hadji!

    • Mary Sue

      Oy, Shmuck-motion! Quoting your link:

      Why did I do this?: I am an anti-Hasbara writer who does not want to go to war against Iran simply because it is lucrative and appealing to some companies and some ethnic and religious nationalists. I have also had my distaste of being farmed for profit by the anti-terrorism roadshow and by fake investment firms. The DEBKA dump was a boon. I hope any of this information stops war racketeering and reduced human suffering.

      Are you descended of US neo nazis? Because that right there sounds like a nuttier conspiracy theory than anything found in the standard Stormfront tripe post.

      Oh of course! War with Iran for fun and profit![/sarcasm]. Idiot. Happy Eternal Nakba!

      • objectivefactsmatter

        "Why did I do this?: I am an anti-Hasbara writer who does not want to go to war against Iran simply because it is lucrative and appealing to some companies and some ethnic and religious nationalists. I have also had my distaste of being farmed for profit by the anti-terrorism roadshow and by fake investment firms. The DEBKA dump was a boon. I hope any of this information stops war racketeering and reduced human suffering. "

        What kind of a a delusional loser comes up with this? Well, the numbers are very small among those with this kind of comprehensive delusional fantasy.

        But wait, we made so much money on wars recently. It's the military industrial complex! They're the ones who flew the planes on 911, no, it was the Israelis, or…I just know it had nothing to do with the religion of peace.

    • Zionista

      new name, same dhimmi loser

      • objectivefactsmatter

        Does this site delete sock puppets?

        • Mary Sue

          It deletes "imposters". Not sure about sock puppets.

  • UCSPanther

    Canada at least had the courage to not go along with this charade, and that is what counts. It also shows how the UN is broken and run by petty dictators. The hypocrisy if the UN is the same as having Islam Karimova lecture Stephen Harper on the right to assemble publicly (see also Andijan Massacre) or having Teodoro Obiang lecture the Province of Alberta on redistributing oil wealth.

    $10 says Palestine will be listed as a "failed state" before the year is out, and $20 says the world will blame Israel for it as usual.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "Canada at least had the courage to not go along with this charade, and that is what counts."

      I'm so proud of Canadian leadership these days, for electing Stephen Harper and letting him lead.

      "$10 says Palestine will be listed as a "failed state" before the year is out, and $20 says the world will blame Israel for it as usual."

      If by any standard it can be considered a state, it was then never anything but a failed one. It will never make any published lists of failed states. Israel will still be blamed for everything that is published about it.

      • Mary Sue

        Not only that, the Liberal Party got decimated federally and the Left wing vote is being fought over by Greens, NDP, and (in Quebec) the Bloc Quebecois, giving us an advantage with vote-splitting.

  • Omar

    Why is there no UN bid for Tibetan membership? Tibet has been oppressed by Communist China for over 62 years, yet there is no call from the UN to award Tibet to be a member. In a moral world, China would have been condemned way more than Israel. Bottom line, the Tibetans deserve a state while the so-called "Palestinians" (the invented people) do not. Israel is a democratic country, while China is a totalitarian dictatorship.

    • Mary Sue

      I know, right? Free Tibet is a clarion call and pet cause of the Hip Left, but have you noticed they never actually advocate doing anything that would actually result in a Free Tibet?

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "Why is there no UN bid for Tibetan membership? Tibet has been oppressed by Communist China for over 62 years, yet there is no call from the UN to award Tibet to be a member. In a moral world, China would have been condemned way more than Israel. Bottom line, the Tibetans deserve a state while the so-called "Palestinians" (the invented people) do not. Israel is a democratic country, while China is a totalitarian dictatorship."

      If they declare themselves a Muslim nation, they'll have no problems after that. Well China may have something to say, but the rest of the world will fall in line with the OIC. Still, Israel will get all the attention because their false prophet said the Jews must be killed first.

  • Zionista

    deformed, we Jews and Israel will continue to be here and be a thorn in your side. After all, we are G-d's chosen and that's what's really eating at your rotting soul.

    • Deshawn

      chosen?! you’re a khazar parasite, not a true israelite. you were chosen by your father the devil to be hemorrhoids on humanity’s backside. Even the cia thinks your crappy “state”still be gone in 10 years. Say byebye, yid!

      • Mary Sue

        I think you have the Jewish people confused with the Pharisees, who aren't even a thing in this modern age.

        You're the bloodsucker you unemployed socialist twit. The word that rhymes with kite shows that you are a really bad person.

      • Zionista

        deformed, I have some toilets that need scrubbing – you're suitable for that.

      • Indus Valley

        Jealousy, impotency, perpetual lying, etc are the manifestations of the disease called antisemitism….But the only medicine for that disease is waking up every morning & knowing the fact that Israel exists, alive & kicking……Am Yisrael Chai from India…

  • marios

    why is ML's Kurds are not granted by State though they are really historical nations and not invented people of Palestine? While with Muslims/Islamo-Nazists countries is all comprehensible, Western World countries repeated the same fatal mistake as made in 1930th cynically sucrificing their Jews to delay time the same crocodile to eat up them. All World hystory confirm G-d 's words" I will bless those who bless you (Jews) and curse those who curse you". Each such an act of treachery are approch closer to horrible religious war with Islamo-Nazism whose goal to conquer all the World and built Caliphate. Israel is on the first line in battle with Islamo-Nazism monster, with barbarians living still in 7 century. israel destiny is US and all Western civilization destiny. Stay with Israel!!! Do anything to support that tiny, courageous only democracy among blood thisty Islamic terrorists states. For instance, buy Israel production goods, foods, etc. I do it .

    • malicious12

      haha…how arrogant?. History proves god's word "I will bless those who bless you (Jews) and curse those who curse you"…Really??. Notice from history that since they murdered or caused the murder of Jesus, they haven't gotten much luck getting along with other people.I am not sure want to you mean by "blessed" when they faced history of discrimination, hatered and holocaust. It could be their attitude that bring them do that fate. France helped them by arming them and building them a neuclear reactor, now they call them anti-semtic, they flourshed under Arabs rules for centuary, and you call them Islamo Nazi and Barbarians, England saved them by allowing them to emigrate to Palestine, they turned against them and started to terrorize their citizens and officials, just because they started limiting the jewish emigration to palestine (it started to to create problems). And who invented the Palestianian people?. what was the population of Palestine in 1900 and prior. The jewish people had an empire (a tiny one rather) for a span of 200 yrs and that was 2500 years ago. Read back every word you wrote and see if it is convincing to you.

      • Drakken

        If you love those effing muslim savages so much, go live with them and get out of the west.

        • malicious12

          Really, where did i say I love Moslems and west of what you want me to get out of?. That's why u people are pathetic and will live and die in resentment. Psssss …breath

          • Drakken

            Your understanding of history is of the revisionist kind and your ignorance is no excuse.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        "Really??. Notice from history that since they murdered or caused the murder of Jesus"

        They who?

      • Mary Sue

        Um, Jesus even said followers of the True God would be persecuted…

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "While with Muslims/Islamo-Nazists countries is all comprehensible, Western World countries repeated the same fatal mistake as made in 1930th cynically sucrificing their Jews to delay time the same crocodile to eat up them."

      Chamberlain never saw the alligator's teeth. Neither do many of them.

  • Mary Sue

    At least Canada voted "nay" to this.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/11/30/canada-to-re

      Even better. Wow, actual leadersship from a Western nation.

      • http://www.themadjewess.wordpress.com MAD JEWESS

        Amazing indeed that a western nation did that.

        He wont be there long. :(

  • Drakken

    Don't you have a saudi to bow down too abed?

  • Drakken

    Great job UN, you now have pushed us closer to war than we have ever been. This war will take the west by surprise because of stupidity,collabration and wishful thinking.

    • Mary Sue

      the sad part will be by the time this happens, Canada will probably have a better military than USA.

      • Drakken

        It will be sooner rather than later. Like a snowball rolling down hill, it will only gain speed and be destructive in the end.

        • ageorgio84

          Keep dreaming, U.S. can invade Canada with just NYPD staff.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "Keep dreaming, U.S. can invade Canada with just NYPD staff."

            That was a comedy film, not a documentary.

          • Mary Sue

            LOL!

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "Great job UN, you now have pushed us closer to war than we have ever been. "

      That was my very first thought. Just imagine how we've confirmed just how effective their lies have been and how this will inspire a whole new realm of lies and associated perfidy. When the timing is deemed right. they'll create some new story as though Israel attacked an innocent sovereign state.

      We've empowered history's biggest liars to reach even greater heights of evil.

  • David R

    Why even bother to reply to this blind fool…he deserves to be ignored completely.
    Deadshawn who? Where? Don't see him…BUT the God of the blessed Jews does and He's taking notes for reckoning day.
    Let's not answer this fool according to his foolishness.

  • pierce

    What else can you expect from the UN. It really does not not represent the main stream world, but it does represent in some way, shape, or form the have not nations of this world. What is Palestine, basically a have not nation with no place to go, an antagonist, to those nearby. Palestine is being subsidized by another rogue nation, Iran, which for 30 plus years has been a pariah for the industrial nations of the world. Perhaps I am being too harsh, but some one has to be. Why use kind words, when they are useless. Take me to task. That is how I feel. Oh, and I will not run for President, guarantee you that.

  • Tom

    Well, on the bright side, now maybe Israel can declare war on "Palestine" and remove it from the map.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      Well, on the bright side, now maybe Israel can declare war on "Palestine" and remove it from the map.

      In a sane world perhaps. In reality, it will be just a new version of good cop, bad cop. "Those militants keep launching rockets, we need more military aid!"

      The UN has validated terror as a legitimate tactic even for entities who are entirely evil. There is no morality in the UN as a body.

  • Ghostwriter

    It's a shame the UN did this. Now,they'll be looked upon as fools by everyone.

    • Mary Sue

      Except by the brain dead leftists like the ones I run into every now and then. The sad part is a lot of them are teachers. The rest are various other government Union workers.

  • Brujo Blanco

    There are those that will celebrate the death of the Jews. This is not about life for Paletine. It is about the death of the Jews of Israel. Make no mistake there is no cease fire.

  • mah29001

    The United Nations is such a terrorist organization, what next let al-Qaeda have its own state?

    • JacksonPearson

      Exactly. Had Osama bin Laden requested to speak before the UN's general assembly, they'd allowed him, and the U.S. government would have given him an armed escort, and red carpet treatment.

  • BS77

    The UN…what a steaming pile.

  • penny lane

    Wrong. The UN put an end to Israel's narrative of "disputed territories". It's a fine line, but it makes a world of difference.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "Wrong."

      Who, you?

      "The UN put an end to Israel's narrative of "disputed territories"."

      Yeah, sure they didn't.

      "It's a fine line, but it makes a world of difference."

      The difference in confidence inspired within lying terrorists organizations and their evil conspiracies. Do you have to keep being such an active dupe? Obviously you got your "history" from some lying leftist scumbag "Middle Eastern Studies" professor, or worse (if that's possible, and I'm not sure that it is since many are themselves jihadis).

      • pennylane

        How about getting back into the objective facts of the real world objectivefactsmatter?

        Not a singel nation, including those who rejected the UN upgrade of Palesine , accepts Israel's claim to West Jordan, Gaza or Golan. These areas are not "disputed" they are occupied. The UN vote has just underlined and reconfirmed this fact.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "Not a singel nation, including those who rejected the UN upgrade of Palesine , accepts Israel's claim to West Jordan, Gaza or Golan."

          Some objective facts matter more than others. The salient facts are that the PA is not a legitimate sovereign and has no right to declare sovereignty where it has dared to try. How about I declare sovereignty over you and your home? As long as I lie well enough to get popular opinion on my side, you'll have no problem with this, am I right?

          "These areas are not "disputed" they are occupied."

          From a legal perspective, you're wrong. From a literal perspective, yes they are legitimately occupied to secure them from enemy terrorist (non-regular totalitarian enemy) forces. They are also even more disputed now than before since the PA has a pretend claim to sovereignty whereas before they only had nitwits like you accepting their lies.

          "The UN vote has just underlined and reconfirmed this fact."

          The UN vote is meaningless in every sense other than registering the level of its corruption.

        • Mary Sue

          Not a single nation recognizes blah blah blah

          Utterly and wholly meaningless. Israel's claims are not validated by who agrees with it.

        • dude911

          why use objective facts

          the UN didnt acknowledge that they were naming terrorists as a "state"…which would violate the entire principal that established the UN to start with…(as in…peacemakers)..

          who needs those kinds of "objective" facts…in reality they are nothing but intentional ignorance

        • JacksonPearson

          Idiot…Israel was attacked. The adjoining lands you're talking about were won in battle. Moreover, using your confounded logic, Islam was born in the city of Mecca, so how exactly do you square the vast amount of earth NOW being occupied in the name of allah.

          Shouldn't Bosnia and Kosovo lands be returned to Slavic rule…Why?…Because Muslim Turks are not indignant of those invaded lands? Shouldn't Islam return ALL conquered lands back to the original descendants, and return to their point of origin, Mecca?

    • UCSPanther

      Canada will not recognize Palestine, you American Leftist, and I, as a Canadian will gladly rub that fact in your face.

      • Mary Sue

        seconded!

    • JacksonPearson

      Using your hypocrisy, any lands after the creation of earth are now being occupied…by somebody, right pendeja? So in your wall-nut-sized-gray-mass, without sling shots, or an armed military, where do protected, sovereign borders, start and stop?

  • http://twitter.com/DanKelso1 @DanKelso1

    Abba Eban once quipped: ”If the Arabs introduced a resolution in the U.N declaring that the earth was flat and that Israel had flattened it, it would pass by a vote of 164 to 13.

  • http://twitter.com/DanKelso1 @DanKelso1

    Penny Land your wrong.
    These same U.N countries would pass a law that Israel has to live under Sharia law and that Israel has to let in millions of Arabs if that was put before the U.N general assembly.
    They would pass this because of Arab oil money and the fact their are 22 Arab countries.
    Did you ever ask yourself, why these same countries don't recognize a Kurdish state in Iraqi Kurdistan?

  • http://twitter.com/DanKelso1 @DanKelso1

    mah29001 69p says,
    The United Nations is such a terrorist organization, what next let al-Qaeda have its own state?

    Remember the U.N had a Nazi war criminal as its secretary general in the 70s and early 80s in Kurt Waldheim.

    Waldheim was a lieutenant in army intelligence, attached to brutal German military units that executed thousands of Yugoslav partisans and civilians and deported thousands of Greek Jews to death camps from 1942 to 1944. Waldheim lied about his wartime service in the Balkans, maintaining that his military career ended in 1942 after he was wounded in a battle on the Russian front.

    Waldheim's own signature was on documents linked to massacres and deportations that the Nazis committed.

  • LindaRivera

    Judge William Young sentencing "shoe bomber" Richard Reid to prison:

    :We do not negotiate with terrorists. We do not meet with terrorists. We do not sign documents with terrorists. We hunt them down one by one and bring them to justice."

    If only we had patriotic, ethical leaders like this judge, running the UN.

  • LindaRivera

    Anyone who attempts to give away, take or steal the Holy Land makes WAR on GOD!

    Not one inch of GOD given Jewish Holy Land to totalitarian, expansionist, colonizing Islam! Not now! Not ever! Re-take Gaza! Declare sovereignty over BIBLICAL Judea and Samaria. OBEY G-D! Kick the Muslim Waqf off the JEWISH Temple Mount! Rebuild the Third Temple!

    When we disobey GOD we have to face unpleasant consequences. When we obey GOD, GOD takes care of the results.

    Bible: THE FEAR OF THE LORD IS THE BEGINNING OF WISDOM!

    Not one more dollar, shekel, euro or pound to Gaza/Hamas-PLO-Palestinian Authority Muslim terrorist OCCUPATION Forces!

    Stop FORCING the Free World's people to finance EVIL!

  • http://twitter.com/DanKelso1 @DanKelso1

    This is the UN, where November 29 is officially the International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People; where they pass anti-Israeli resolutions year in and year out, without anyone even looking at the text.”
    Every anti-Israel initiative at the 193-member General Assembly will have an automatic Pro Arab majority.
    The U.N can pass a law stating that Jews who don't obey Hamas must be tied to a motorcycle and dragged around and murdered and it would pass overwhelmingly in the Islamic controlled U.N

  • Horace

    Of course this was going to happen. Israel has had dozens of chances to get rid of the Jihadi "Palestinians"
    meaning Arabs who want to deny a homeland to a fellow middle easter tribe(s) namely Israel. Israel has repeatedly given back what God helped it to get- as in Sinai, the West Bank, Gaza a number of times. Israel has now run itself round in circles till it has the UN backing "Palestine" with enough color of title to force Israel into the sea. Europe is turning Muslim, The US president is jerking you around with too little too late "support in the UN. Israel had its chance many times to take and hold a defensible homeland and backed down over and over again and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. It is now probably too late. Anyway it doesn't matter if Israel gets another chance, it will probably back down and defeat itself again. Israel is ruled by fools.

  • Mary Sue

    yeah but Putin is crazy enough (?) to sell arms to Syria…wait, maybe that's not so crazy after all. Considering the Rebels…

    • Drakken

      As far as I am concerned, let Russia sell as many arms as they want to Syria, the more they slaughter each other, the better it is for the rest of us.

  • Dude911

    Trust is a funny thing. When you have it, you just have to be honest to keep it. When you lose trust, it is very hard to get back.

    Who can trust the general assembly of the UN? It has violated the honor of the world by recognizing a terrorist state that has absolutely no ability to function as a member nation. The sole reason it exists is because of international welfare, and the only product produced within its borders are missiles, weapons of war, which its populations have used continuously for generations against thier neighboring state.

  • dr.music

    However wrong it may be we have to let the Palestine thingy happen. Only when they are organized and labeled as a country will the other muslims start looking at them with the hate that is rampant for each other in islam. Then the Palestinians will be fair game as targets for other Islamic countries and then the Palestinians will also hate the very ones that are propping them up now. The turmoil that is islam is on the boil all over the planet.
    Muslims in the end will smash each other as easily as they smash their heads many times five times a day and retard themselves every few hours. Egypt will drown in the Nile once all gloves are off on the Aswan dam. Who cares !! Iran will attack the saudis and Israel will smash Syria and Jordan and Turkey combined. islam is in turmoil ….Savagery will cancel out the savages. Let us watch the muslim circus….it has started….China will bite islam too and Russia will supply Europe with oil and natural gas as the middle east around Israel burns and that black stone vaporizes as the iranian 12th mahdi rises and falls flat on his face.
    Turkey is the proverbial sitting duck.
    The show is just starting !!

  • mcwrath

    I wonder how all these ''peace activists'' who mouth off palestinean propaganda in placing blame on Israel for the violence will react when/if an actual palestinean state is set up and the rockets and attacks once again rain down on Israel. Will they realise that they had been wrong all along about their claims of palestineans desire for peace and their proclaimations for jihad were limited to securing just palestinean statehood and not the avowed destruction of Israel as Hammas desire.
    Having listened to so much of their twisted reasoning – that can be brought down to their view of Israels ''illigitimitacy'' – I should be surprised if they would throw off their keffiya scarfs and stand up for Israels right to defend itself.
    ( one benifit of palestinean statehood might be that when the palestineans start launching attacks there can be no fudging responsibility and Israel will have every right to destroy such attackers… currently this seems an issue with pro- palestinean commentators )

    • Guest

      When/if an actual Palestinian State is set up and rocket attacks continue, Israel will be within its rights to defend itself, It will be a war between nations and will be subject to international law. That is why Israel doesn't want a two-state solution. They need a legal grey area to continue their campaign of ethnic cleansing. It doesn't matter if the palestinians never were a unified people, they are now, after living for generations in what amounts to concentration camps. The hatred I find in these comments is astounding. Dehumanizing the enemy sure makes it easier to cope when you see the dismembered children, but they are still human children, and if your children or parents were killed, would you not want revenge, not to legitimize violence on anyone's pat but you can see how the cycle begins, this is about ending that cycle nothing more, where is the humanity?

      • Mary Sue

        International Law is a joke. I didn't vote for it.

        You really are ignorant if you have no clue the amount of abject Nazi-Like hatred that pervades the supporters of Hamas. They make that neo nazi idiots that named their kid Adolf and tattooed their kids with swastikas look sane by comparison.

        This is about stopping the "Palestinians" from being a proxy for all the jewhating surrounding Arab and non-Arab muslim states in their quest to push the Jews into the sea.

      • ziontruth

        "…The hatred I find in these comments is astounding. Dehumanizing the enemy…"

        Yeah, I only have to read any article about Jewish "settlers" in the "West Bank" on a lefty source, plus the comments below, to see your point vividly illustrated.

      • mcwrath

        Israel practically handed the palestineans a state ie a two state solution back in 2000 of which arafat walked away – without so much as any other gesture- and returned to the west bank pumping up his audience with shouts of ''jihad, jihad,'' which belies your insinuation that the Israelis are not open to a two state solution and the palestineans are. Whats more if you ever cared to read the charters and proclaimations of Hammas you would clearly see that their intent is the total destruction of Israel and a return to that most oppressive social order of Islamic rule….No body in the levant was more entitled to self-determination or liberation than the jews. It was more the pity that the British did not set up the state of Israel back when they set up the jordanian kingdom. In fact all those other states who set themselves up as Islamist ruled are guilty of creating aparthide states..what you 'peace activists' accuse Israel of..(.by their very nature Islamic states discriminate against non-muslims.- look up the history of sharia and the non-muslims place in it..that is truly hateful..

      • mcwrath

        Well at least Im glad that you recognise that Israel will be within its rights to defend herself when the palestineans launch their jihadic attack ( most likely alongside other culprit states now controlled by the muslim brotherhood ) And the palestineans will be subject to International law and will be charged with war crimes as they deliberately target bus loads of Israeli children..and for the use of human shields as the set up their firing points in schoolyards and hospitals etc so as to generate propaganda for gullible yokels and Islamic apologists reporters.
        When are the 'peace activists' going to turn and wake up to the appalling crimes being perppetrated by muslim brotherhood rulers around the world. Israel justly reacts to Hammas rocket attacks and take out a few criminal heads and the worlds left/islamic apologist media descend…Ignore the higher destruction ongoing in syria…And completely ignore the ongoing genocide being carried out by the karthoum Islamist regime in the Sudan.( are the numbers being slaughtered there too great for your little brains to grasp)
        DEHUMANISING THE ENEMY…. that is what Islam has being doing from its very foundation..have'nt you ever looked into their 'sacred text' it is the product of a psychopath.

      • Drakken

        If your looking for sympathy for your pali muslim savage friends, you can find it in the dictionary between the words sh*t and syphylis. Eliminate enough of the muslim savages they will quit fighting. Please by all means if you have such sympathy and empathy for the savage bast*ards, go live with them, for Rachel Corrie needs company.

  • watsa46

    The US decided to let the Pal have their day at the UN. What is next?
    The world blackmailed by the Arab oil!!!!
    The Arabs will have to compensate 850,000 Jewish refugees whether they like it or not, whether the UN (Muslim controlled) likes it or not.

  • British Zionist

    Was anyone shouting "Free Palestine" before 1967 when the area was under arab control? No. Did anyone complain or even say a word when a Syrian rockets hit a mosque in Gaza killing 25? No. Why? Because the world only cares about the Palestinians when Israel can be used as a scapegoat. Pure antisemitism.