Negotiating with a Fantasy of the Iranian Regime


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The Iranian regime with which the P5+1 countries launched their second round of nuclear talks on Wednesday in Baghdad is not the real Iranian regime. That is to say, the Western, Russian, and Chinese diplomats will—at best—be negotiating with a fantasy-projection of the Iranian regime, and Tehran’s negotiators will be all too compliant in playing the part assigned to them.

At worst, the P5+1 diplomats will actually be aware of the true nature of the Iranian regime, but will act out the script of “negotiating constructively” with it so as to further certain ancillary goals—like lowering oil prices, boosting political fortunes, and above all, forestalling a possible Israeli attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities.

This constructive, reasonable Iran, ready to strike a deal and essentially having the same aims as the P5+1 countries except for a few bridgeable areas of disagreement, cannot be the same Iran that just this week called for the “full annihilation of Israel,” that has taken a steady toll of American lives in Iraq, that bragged earlier this month of its navy’s ability to threaten New York City, that has been responsible for an ongoing string of terrorist atrocities for over three decades, and that continues to intimidate its Persian Gulf neighbors with subversion and very real threats of conquest.

There is, indeed, a situation in which a regime like Iran’s would sue for reasonable terms and real compromise—if it were truly on the ropes. But, while the sanctions are taking an economic toll, not even the most determined optimists claim that Tehran is anywhere near teetering. Not while its nuclear program continues at full speed, and while, as Israeli analyst Lt.-Col. (ret.) Michael Segall notes, it has been continuing a policy of strategic “buildup, defiance, and power projection” in the face of all Western blandishments.

IAEA director-general Yukiya Amano’s claim on Tuesday, then, about an imminent—but still-unsigned—deal with Iran allowing inspection of some of its nuclear sites was a kind of ominous prelude to the Baghdad talks. It was the IAEA whose report last November—confirming all of Israel’s warnings about Iran’s unceasing progress toward the bomb—seemed to create a more serious atmosphere regarding the threat. It was Amano himself who heightened the sense of crisis in March by warning that Iran had tripled production of higher-grade enriched uranium.

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  • Shalom Freedman

    This is an excellent analysis and reveals once again the strong Western capacity for delusion and self- deception. Iran has been as Hornik points out a serial violator and wholly dishonest for years. Anyone who believes that they are going to suddenly change their character is simply deluding themselves. Perhaps however it is less painful in the short term to be deluded than to truly confront the more painful reality which will come. I might add especially when the first expected recipient of that 'painful reality' is someone else.

  • Joshua

    the stage is set, all the middle eastern countries are in perfect position, world war III will just be the beginning…

  • Bamaguje

    Enough talking!!
    Bomb Iran's nucear facilities now, with targeted strikes at the Mullah establishment for regime change.

    • Choi

      Start with the OBLITERATION of Qom!

  • pierce

    This is absolutely the most ridiculous position the Obama Administration has gotten themselves into, they should be in the drivers seat, but because of all the hemming and hawing, the Iranians are now in command. This appears, at least to me, a repeat of the Jimmy Carter negotiations of the late 1970s, and he, Obama, the great excuse maker for the USA, is now being walked all over. GET TOUGH, AND STAY TOUGH, STOP PUSSYFOOTING AROUND, YOU ARE OUR PRESIDENT, NOT THE WORLDS FRIEND. AND OH, STOP LETTING THE RUSSIANS DICTATE TOO, THEY ARE NOT IN A VERY GOOD POSITION EITHER.

  • WildJew

    Dore Gold, author of "Tower of Babble: How the United Nations Has Fueled Global Chaos," wrote, "In order to be invited to the UN's founding conference in San Francisco, a state had to have declared war on at least one of the Axis powers — (Germany, Japan, Italy)….The UN's founding members, in other words, had to make choices and take a stand."

    Now we have theater of the absurd; Japanese-born Yukiya Amano as the current Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency.

  • WilliamJamesWard

    Does it remind anyone of talk in the past that "It will just be the Sudentland, or well Czechoslovakia."
    Let them have Israel, after all it will clear the air of Iran's animosity and then things will get back to
    normal. Iran's normal is quickly accelerating into the inconceivable for a nation that cares anything
    about their own people and the lives of innocents everywhere. Death and destruction is on it's way
    and paved with streets of paper. Destroy Iran's leadership and let the people form a new
    government, why make everyone in Iran suffer, it is known who the bad guys are and just deserts
    are just that, justly deserved…………………………………William

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Right ON WJW!

      Wiping out he ayatollahs and their little ahm-mad-bout-jihad puppet will save the world from WW3.

      The people of Persia are not the stone age knuckledragger taliban of afghanistan.

      The people of Persia long to be free of the yoke of the islamofascist cultural revolution..

      • Choi

        Then the people of Persia NEED to REVOLT NOW!
        If the Shah was overthrown,so can the Mullahs.
        IF they don't,than like the German people,they MUST SUFFER the consequences.

      • WilliamJamesWard

        Amaddinnerjacket is the first one I would grease and then all the turbans for a quick flame out,
        they are the morons that have the potential of killing millions of people. GWB should have
        aced Sadam and his crew and spared everyone shock and awe, a better way could have been
        had at so much less cost, big shows give lousy results and are unnecessary when you know
        who is the problem, and you isolate and destroy problems, seems reasonable…………William

  • StephenD

    The entire world knows Iran lies. The problem is money. Everyone is afraid of the volatility of oil prices and supply. Assurances of the Saudi’s (who fear Iran) notwithstanding. Besides, the thinking is Iran couldn’t possibly deploy anything substantial enough at this time. The issue then turns to how much damage are these “Leaders” willing to incur before they take decisive action. When will it be worth it to actually stop Iran? Israel can and will do it when they see fit. We should back them up. It wouldn’t be near as difficult as it seems. We don’t need to go for their Nuke Facilities, just the access to them, infrastructure, transportation, communications, etc. But regardless, the bottom line is ALWAYS the money. Russia can’t afford to let the prices of oil drop too far and so they encourage Iran to keep up the destabilization. I wouldn’t doubt for a minute that Obama and Putin have discussed this very issue and are cooperating. It’s all a ruse and lives are merely pawns on a chess board.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Iran does nothing unless it gives them a little bit more time.

    And they're using that time to develop missile and nuclear payload to fit on them.

    Why does Obama want them to be nuclear armed? He keeps stalling and talking, I hope Israel lives to talk about this some day.

    • stern

      Jesus an hater?

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        You don't have a problem you refuse to admit He existed and yet you hate him anyhow.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          Of course I have.
          So have dozens of others. YOu consider any source that supports Him as unreliable. I consider any source that supports your existence unreliable so I don't accept that you exist.

          See how that works?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Your profile could be a compilation of trolls.
            It could be an automated program.

            You could even be a group of clerics sharing the task of attacking Christianity.

            And Elaine is wrong. Matthew and John were two who were there and know what they saw and heard. Luke was a thorough investigation that changed a well educated doctor's life. You simply hate Christianity and desperately search for any excuse to smear it.

            Before you rip on Christ you should get to know Him.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Facts are what they are.
            Education means 'indoctrination'. It doesn't change the facts.

            Hate won't change them either, that's why you come across like a rabid troll growing under your bridge.

        • ChristChurchtourist

          So what is the Shroud of Turin?

          • Snorbak

            A piece of cloth

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And more modern tests show it's perhaps not a fake.

            You just hate Christianity so much you'll take any opportunity to attack anything about it.

            Why do you do so from a muslim friendly position?

            BTW it was nice having you go to work late, it meant there was a little less hate this morning on the forum.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Sure, and is it time for you to start attacking Israel and calling them baby killers again?

            Real Americans? What would a violence loving, muslim friendly, Israel hating person such as yourself know about real Americans?

            And I say your comment times show you only post during normal work hours for any government office. Who say's you're not 'at' work. (your english as a second language failed you there)

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You just visit your muslim man friends in Iowa and think about war dead?

            And did you have a nice liquid lunch or did your late start this morning throw off your normal work schedule?

            My life isn't a failure just because a muslim friendly troll would like to think so.

            Our value systems mean you wouldn't recognize my successes. So, are you going to go off on Israel again to stay muslim friendly, or is there another angle coming up next?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            My my, so do your sharia friendly friends celebrate memorial day?

            And as for pos, is this when you start attacking Israel for defending itself too?

          • patriothere

            Israel is an aggressor nation who has never gotten along with its neighbors for 60 years. It wont be around much longer.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            My my, that flame program seems to have gotten you angry.
            Did you have to stay off the net for a while as they tried to patch together another decrepit iranian pc for you to use?

            The Almighty takes care of Israel, I don't lose sleep over you destroying them.

          • patriothere

            Oh no, trust me, your life is a failure. YOU, are a failure. Believe me. You are one of the biggest failures out there. You should jump off of a building.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You silly Iranian trolls, that computer worm must really have you upset.

            I wonder, is it time for you to download more goat porn so they can get you the next update for 'flame'?

  • kasandra

    Not to worry, Agence France Press today reported the following: "There have been some areas of common ground and there has been a fair amount of disagreement," said a senior US official late Wednesday, portraying this as a sign that the negotiations at least were as serious as hoped. "We have engaged in a lot of back and forth. Some of that has been difficult, but any negotiation that is worth its salt is difficult because you are getting down to the issues that matter. We are the beginning of this process. We are not in the middle of it and we are certainly not at the end of it."

    Yes, nearly ten years of negotiations with Iran has produced nothing but an Iran close to having a nuclear bomb and a "senior U.S. official says that the unwillingness of Iran to come to any agreement is simply proof that it's serious in engaging in negotiations and that the process has just started. I'm simply God-smacked at the lack of relationship between these statements of a "senior U.S. official" and objective reality.

  • mrbean

    It is almost impossible for Westerners to comprehend that Mohammad, despite his treacherous and murderous deeds as recorded in the Sira, is deemed by Muslims as the perfect man, the model for all believers! After his death, Islam destroyed a Christian Middle East and a Christian North Africa. The research of the Center for the Study of Political Islam indicates that some 60 million Christians were slaughtered during this jihadic conquest. Half of the Hindu civilization was annihilated and 80 million Hindus killed. Jihad destroyed much of Buddhism, killing about 10 million Buddhists. Zoroastrianism was eliminated from Persia. Approximately 270 million nonbelievers died over the last 1400 years for the glory of political Islam. This history is not taught in any western schools. Most importantly, “multiculturalism is bankrupt against Islamic totalitarianism and imperialism. The West’s culture of tolerance collapses in the face of the sacred intolerance of dualistic ethics. “Our media never reports the majority of jihad around the world. Our intellectuals don’t talk about how all of the violence is connected to a political doctrine.” Fear rules our intellectuals and most western politicians.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      mohammed was "perfect." perfectly evil.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      It's not Christian killing. It violates the teachings of Christ.

      So, it's killing done by failed Christians that don't speak for, or represent Christianity.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        A Christian as the words was intended in Greek means one who follows Christ.

        If you try and struggle to follow His teachings but make mistakes that's a non perfect Chrisitian.

        That's entirely different than someone who does evil and hides behind a name but with no attempt to live the life. You know, like Hitler.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          Hitler was no Christian.
          You keep saying that with nothing to show he followed a single teaching of Christ.

          And you are so full of hate you can't see your own backside when you pull your head out.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            That's not for you to decide now, is it?

            And what lie? Just because your muslim friendly tactics call for al taqiyya doesn't mean any of your personal attacks are actually true.

            Just that you're a desperate troll sitting at your work terminal struggling to spread the propaganda. Do I slow that down?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No, the religion and it's teachings decided that.

            So you still lose.
            What is it like working for muslim interests from a work terminal during normal business hours?

            Are you about ready for another liquid lunch?

          • Jesusinator

            I don't know you tell me <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            The words Christian does mean something. You admitted that much.

            How does it feel to fail so miserably with each comment and know that your handlers are noticing it?

          • Jesusinator

            Funny, how does it feel to know I kick you around all the time <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            From my boot to your face?
            Luckily for you I don't advocate violence like you do.

          • Jesusinator

            I am the one doing the kicking……………………………..as always <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yawn, are you still at your work terminal?
            You are so cranky when your handlers won't let you leave early for the weekend.

          • Snorbak

            Hitlers actions alone, in the willful murder of millions (especially Jews) would be sufficient evidence for most that he was certainly not a christian, not even a false one for that matter.
            Hitlers motivations for launching the war in Europe were revenge & hatred, hardly christian principals.
            Therefor it is reasonable for anyone to assume (correctly) that Hitler was no Christian.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Back to multi part rants?

            Come on, you have failed. This is always a failure for you. You can't tie any of the violence you want to smear Christians with to what Christ taught, you know the word Christian means one who follows or tries to copy Christ.

            You can do all the multi-part rants you want. But each time you will still miss the mark, in a typical muslim hate filled way.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            One must remember that just because you're a church leader doesn't mean you're following the teachings of Christ.

            Unlike islam (which you seem so friendly to) Christianity isn't who teaches you, what your parents believe or what meetings you attend.

            You are so hate filled it's blinding you and causing you to ignore the very things you rail against, when muslims do it.

  • Dr. John

    And kasandra, you've unfortunately got it exactly right. it's an appalling spectacle. Delusion, self-delusion, cynicism, spinelessness.

  • Ghostwriter

    I doubt that history will look upon these current talks well. The ghost of Neville Chamberlain must be howling with grief because he failed to understand the depths of evil of someone like Hitler. It looks like the people doing the same talks haven't learned the lessons of history or know the hideous depths of evil that the Iranian regime is capable of.

  • Nakba1948

    Yes, let's all bomb Iran! We don't mind starting wars because our children aren't the ones in harm's way. Muslim life is cheap to us. Who cares that the Islamic Republic of Iran has never launched a war against any of its neighbors (contrast: Israel has attacked most of its neighbors, including the Palestinians)? Or that it poses absolutely no threat to the United States (contrast: the Lavon Affair, the USS Liberty, parasitizing the US Congress, encouraging Muslims rage against the United States)? Or that there is zero evidence that it's developing nuclear weapons (contrast: Israel has illegal nukes and refuses to sign the NPT)? The Israelis think Iran is an "existential threat," and being Israel-firsters, who really cares what's good for the US anyway? You people are a disgrace to humanity. You call me every name in the book on here, but at the end of the day, I have no interest in killing or hurting other human beings, be they Muslim, Jewish, or Christian. You Zionist-neocon extremists can hardly say the same. Shame on you.

    • SoCalMike

      Everyone just lays you out like the PO Jew-hating S–T you are.

  • Ziggy Zoggy

    No surprise here. President Obangi and his Euro-trash fellow travelers cant even admit that the Ayatollah is the undisputed despot of Iran. They pretend that Amadjihad is a real President instead of a pet monkey leashed to the Ayatollah’s organ grinder. The semi-literate Obangi doesn’t even know the difference between diplomacy and dialogue. Not that either have ever worked on the Ayatollahs, who are self styled revolutionaries. Western surrender monkeys cant confront the wimpy Ayatollah but they think they can prevent Israel from destroying his nuclear weaponry program. Not that they can admit it is a weaponry program, of course. They should go to Fantasyland and buy some mouse ears for the next round of fake negotiations.

  • stern

    Yawn, boring, same old same old lies. If it's true that "I have no interest in killing or hurting other human beings, be they Muslim, Jewish, or Christian", why do you lie so much? For example, "Israel has attacked most of its neighbours, including the Palestinians", when this is patently untrue. Yes, Israel has had cause to defend itself against most of its neighbours, including the Palestinians, but there is a difference. Of course, you wouldn't appreciate that, being the liar you are.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      When your survival is a struggle, wearing the right socks might be part of self defense.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        My my, your muslim friendly side is sure oozing out this morning.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          No, I am OK with Israel defending itself.
          And hamas uses human shields constantly.

          You are muslim friendly.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No you don't say over and over.
            You toss it in when you're backed into a corner, well within the guidelines of al taqiyya.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And your work terminal is a good place for you to make up these sorts of things.

            You haven't. You claim many times, but you don't actually do anything you claim to.

            You have so much hatred, so much bigotry. And your muslim friendly rants are so clear you didn't even need to start lying about Israel for me to see it.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Back at the troll work terminal again with fresh marching orders?

          • Jesusinator

            Back in mom's basement wishing you were relevant again? <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Is your supervisor looking over your shoulder to make sure you're sounding bitter enough?

            Sitting at a desk posting all these comments from your work terminal would have it's downsides.

          • Jesusinator

            Still pretending relevance. It's not working. You're stil a faliure <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Says the muslim friendly troll sitting at his work terminal struggling to meet his daily quota of spam comments.

          • Jesusinator

            Come on Achmed, we all know your a muslium terrorist <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Are the little ponies talking to you again?

            You need to take a break and get away from the work terminal and handlers. Perhaps have a flask of mtn dew and unwind some. You sound so stressed!

            Hahahahahahaha…….

          • Jesusinator

            Stressed? I am kicking you around. This is a lot of fun Achmed. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Is your face tired of kicking my foot?

            So, when are you done and able to leave work for the weekend?

          • Jesusinator

            No, I am washing the dog s hit named roger off my foot right now <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You do have a distorted view of reality.

            Poor wee wee. Such an angry tiny little man.

          • Jesusinator

            That's the truth and you stink. A poor lonley loser that spends all day and night pretending relevance on the internet. You're my b itch <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You want one, but it's not me.

            Ask another muslim friendly kind of guy, pretend he's a goat or something.

          • Jesusinator

            Of course it you. I talk and give you permission to reply. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still kicking my foot with your face?

          • Jesusinator

            You're the one getting kicked around. My foot up your a ss as always <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Really? Did you say that to impress your handler? Were they looking over your shoulder today?

    • stern

      Of course, you do know that the founder of Amnesty International has distanced himself from that organization because of its blatant bias against Israel? I mean, for heaven's sake, Hamas proudly tells the world that the people of Gaza rush to act as human shields, and there is more than enough real evidence to prove that mosques and schools were used as weapons storage facilities and that rockets are continually fired from civilian areas.

      But you, Jesus the hater, will continue to believe what you believe.

      • stern

        My apologies, it was the founder of Human Rights Watch who distanced himself from his organization. But considering that HR and AI generally parrot each other, and considering the ridiculous claims in the article you refer to, the rest of my argument stands.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          Such as yourself?

          Links mean nothing. Facts are what they are.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Are they? As factual as your claims that the dead sea scrolls don't show scripture is accurate? As factual as your claim that Matthew and John weren't first hand witnesses to what Jesus said and taught? As factual as your claim that Hitler was a Christian?

            Those kinds of facts?

            Hahahahahahahahahahaha…. oh you slay me!
            (sarcasm)

          • Jesusinator

            Yep, al those facts are true. Glad you admit it finally <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            None of them are. The little pink ponies in your head lie.

          • Jesusinator

            You have not shown otherwise <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Of course I have, hundreds of times. And so have dozens of other people.

            Your al taqiyya is dripping again.

          • Jesusinator

            No, they have given me so called facts that come from christians. Any one with any intelligence would question that. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Something you wouldn't know about, since you have no intelligence.

            And they have proven it hundreds of times, You simply are so full of hate facts mean nothing to you.

          • Jesusinator

            says the one who believes what ever his pastor spoon feeds him. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No, just what the Bible teaches as the teachings of Christ.

            You just won't get it. You misdefine Christians then rip on us for things that don't' matter. Things that we don't believe in and that the teachings of Christ don't support.

            You really are a lousy target.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Says the muslim friendly troll who wants to burn an entire town of Christians alive in a locked building without a trial or investigation?

            You don't get to make that call. What a moron, did your handler tell you to write that?

          • Jesusinator

            Where did jesus teach you call other people's names? Chapter and verse please. You're a piece of dog s hit. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            So who commands you as an atheist to hate and attack?

            Do you answer to pond scum still waiting to evolve?

          • Jesusinator

            I think for myself. Something you should consider trying <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No, you don't. You only seem to use talking points fed to you.

            All that hate must have tasted bad going down.

          • Jesusinator

            I use facts that are based on REAL evidence not hocus pocus <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes, and when you can do that we might have real debate.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        Still ruled by your muslim friendly hate?

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          Like you?

          Nope, Christians answer to Christ. You know, that "Christian" thing means something.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No, that would be you. That God isn't real.

            It means that Christians have decided and work towards being Christ like. That would include many things, but following His teachings is very central to most of them.

            Still full of hate at your work terminal struggling to make your quota of propaganda for the day?

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        And does Hamas value the lives of Children? Do you know there are a million arabs in Israel and Hamas doesn't warn them before firing kassam's at them? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          Of course, you just happen to overlook the evil the muslims are doing to attack the incident that the IDF itself condemned and punished.

          How muslim friendly of you, oh… I'm repeating myself. You're so transparent little wee wee.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No, it had a very muslim friendly slant. If it covered both sides, then why are you so sure you are right and Israel is the one that deserves to be attacked?

            Is that just the cleric's position on things?

          • Jesusinator

            No, it showed the amount of children killed on both sides. Of course you don't care how many non -christian children die because your a hate filled machine <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You didn't show that IDF forces targeted children. You showed in a rare instance they used them as a shield, but it would be muslim bullets that killed them.

            You still fail. Is your handler looking over your shoulder shaking his head now?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Once again who's bullets are killing?
            You take the propaganda in a hit piece without facts or substantiation.

            How cleric of you. So, when are you going to just admit to your religion?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Used in defense of their homeland.
            You know, that entire thousands of kassam rockets kind of thing?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Sounds like the hamas leadership should have considered the consequences before attacking with kassams. Jewish children deserve protection just as much as arab muslim children.

            Why do you treat Jews as if they have no right to self defense?

            Are you sunni or shiite?

          • Jesusinator

            Why do love to hear about non christian children being killed. Would you bathe in their blood <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Do you like to hear about Christian's being killed, that would mean you want to bathe in Christian blood?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yet you defend the people shooting kassam rockets and civilians.

            So muslim friendly, so troll, so predictable.

            Is your work terminal someplace where you can cry and bang your head without other trolls noticing?

          • Jesusinator

            Where did I defend them? Quote me <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Read your comments in this thread.

            Why do you want to tie me down looking up things you should remember, even if you do use medical pot to excess.

          • Jesusinator

            I never defended them. Why do you lie. Is that one of the teachings of christ? <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            So al taqiyya of you.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No it is typical al taqiyya from you.

          • Jesusinator

            Another lie <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Of course not. I don't have your style.

          • Jesusinator

            Yes it is

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still stuck in a loop? Can't get fresh hate lines for this one?

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        Is that almost as high as the people slaughtered by atheist communists?

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          Really, it's much higher with atheist communists.

          Facts are not your friends. And if you keep looking so stupid – your handlers won't be your friends much longer either.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            If you're that blind to history why should I bother?

            You do know that in the soviet union there were man made famines that killed millions, and that in the last 2 years more Christians have been martyred by muslim militants than were killed by Rome in all it's persecution?

            I don't see you as a serious student of history. When you teach a pig to sing I'll start taking you seriously.

          • Jesusinator

            You can't show they killed in the name of athesim or any athesists scrpture that commands you kill, like the bible does <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You can't show a single teaching of Christ that teaches that.

            So you still fail.

          • Jesusinator

            I can show it in biblical scripture, any you can't show christ is real <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I have. And Pilate did in egypt as governor when he helped establish the Coptic church.

            You are so filled with hate you can't admit to being wrong on anything.

            Do your handlers dock your pay when you do too badly?
            That means you're not going to make a lot this week.

          • Jesusinator

            Oh you the guy who was born 10 years after jesus died? If I was getting paid this would be a week when I got a large check. You have been my bi tch all week. A stinky smelly b itch, but my b itch non the less <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Pilate was the one who talked to him and tried Him.

            And you're still delusional. Matthew and John were there and followed Him. You just are so blinded by hate you're a legend in your own mind.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Then you hadn't checked with the Egyptian history, specifically the coptic church records.

          • Jesusinator

            Why would they have Roman records? <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why wouldn't you admit to the obvious?

            Jesus lived, his life was recorded by several independent sources that were later changed by it.

            And the world has never been the same since.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I have. You just brush them off since they don't' agree with your handler approved talking points.

            And to think that with Jesus the first 'grace' focused religion did away with submitting sacrifices to appease any selected gods. No more virgins down the volcano's, no human sacrifices to baal, the very first loving God that actually made the plans to save without the death and pain.

            And you ignore that in your blind race for hate.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Of course I have.

    Don't remember much with all the medical marijuana huh?

    • Jesusinator

      With your hearsay? <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        Backpedalling on pot smoking again?

        Do your handlers realize how much you use?

        • Jesusinator

          Nope, it has nothing to do with the conversation. However I can kick you around on that subject as well. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Really, delusion must be your middle name.

            Do they let you eat munchies at your work terminal? That would explain why you're so cranky.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Guess what, you just kicked my foot with your face again.

          • Jesusinator

            Your foot must really hurt then. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            With a rabid person such as yourself, I wear protective gear.

          • Jesusinator

            I would wear a Level A suit with an SCBA to keep your posion off me <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes, facts and reality bother you.

            They interrupt the hate and bigotry.

          • Jesusinator

            Youthink ID is reality and blog pieces are facts. Better STFU. You are alreadyway behind <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I think that muslim militants are real and you defend their values and hatred.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Who are they up against? http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/two

    Do they have a reason to suspect suicide bomb belts?

    You take one propaganda piece and run with it.
    It's so 'muslim friendly' of you.

    As you sit at your work terminal spewing as many comments as possible before you shut down for the weekend.

    What a hack troll.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      Is this a story like your others where you take it and run with things without knowing the entire story?

      You seem to specialize in propaganda. And your handlers don't seem to care if your muslim loyalties come out now.

      Someone approached a military checkpoint from a culture that uses suicide bombs. She had a bag and didn't stop. He made sure he was safe and his outpost was safe.

      When you live in a war zone being that stupid can kill you.

      If she had been a Christian you wouldn't have cared, so your bigotry is exposed once more.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        It's direct.
        Thanks for showing you are a troll that doesn't deal with reality.

        You just wanted a chance to use your muslim loyalties to attack and smear.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          No, it wasn't. Expalining it was a war zone and a military checkpoint. That she approached with a bag when muslim tactics is suicide bombs is a direct answer.

          Facts bother you, why is that?

          • Jesusinator

            Even thoughthey shot her bag first and determined it was not a bomb. Was her a face a bomb? Why did he have to put 7.62 X 39 rounds in her face after she was dead?

            Is filling her face with 7.62 X 39 rounds after she is dead defense of the homeland?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            So you admit they had concerns, or they wouldn't have targeted the bag first. If she was approaching, ignoring calls to halt and the bomb wasn't in her bag where else was it?

            Filling her with enough bullets to make sure she didn't go off and kill them was the next step

            In a war zone you learn not to do stupid things like approach a check point when the soldiers are yelling at you to stop.

  • Ghostwriter

    I have two things to say to the two posters above me. The first,the ever-disgraceful Nakba1948,the Jew-hating slug who sympathizes with monsters such as Hamas and Hezbollah. Once again,he delivers his typical anti-semitic bile and then says of those of us who defends Israel's right to exist,"a disgrace to humanity." No,Nakba. We aren't the disgraces to humanity. You are. Every time you defend terrorists who slaughter innocent people,who wallow in the same anti-semitic filth you proudly wallow in like a pig,who love nothing more than to kill Jews,you prove that YOU are no better than they are. If you had a sliver of humanity,you would condemn these attacks against Jews but you don't. You are the disgrace to humanity. Not people like me.
    To Ziggy Zoggy:I think that President Obama and those like him live in a fantasy world. They believe that if they can talk to vicious monsters such as the Mullahs of Iran,they can make them see the light and that they can be reasoned with. Sadly for them,they can't. They don't want to listen,they just want nuclear bombs so that they can wipe out Israel. It's time to get leaders who live in the real world,not the fantasy world that people like President Obama lives in.

    • Nakba1948

      Hah, the dumbest of the Zionazis on this website strikes again. Can you quote me showing my support for Hamas or Hezbollah at any time? Or quote my defense of any terrorist? Or quote my expressing approval for the murder of Jews? Not only are you remarkably stupid (even by FPM standards), but you also seem to have no compunction about ascribing fabricated positions to people whose arguments you simply can't counter? As you're more than a little slow-witted, let me repeat what I wrote above: "…I have no interest in killing or hurting other human beings, be they Muslim, Jewish, or Christian. You Zionist-neocon extremists can hardly say the same."

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Happy EternalNakba1948!

        May all your koranazi brethren jihads turn into Nakbas!

      • http://www.dikaesha.pbwiki.com Foolster41

        You expressed a desire for the ending of "the illegal Jewish entity", which is in line with the genocidal propaganda by Hamas. Your name echos that desire, calling Isreal, (a democratic state that was legally established by the LoN and the UN, and that grants more rights than its Arab neighbors) a "disaster".

        You said "Muslims, and Christians would all be better off were Israel to vanish from the pages of time." (Source: 'Isreal and our future').

        You made numerous anti-semetic lies about Jews and Isreal, such as a claim that Zionists in any large number corroborated with Nazis.

        Yes, you are an anti-semite.

      • Kendrick1

        Now that you have repeated what you wrote, that really makes it so!

        There can be support by commission or omission. Apparently you haven't been supporting by commission, ( covertly, maybe) but you and your kind haven't shown any appreciable outrage either!

        "You people are a disgrace to humanity." Can we become humane again by gathering up all of our women and circumsizing them with a piece of broken glass; honor killing of our children?

    • Kendrick1

      Amen! Let's change that situation at the November polls unless we have to do something beforehand!!

  • SAM000

    The Author has stated that
    "The agreement that the International Atomic Energy Agency reached with Iran is a pact among thieves. Thieves and liars. Everyone knows that this deal is not worth even the few words used to announce it.”

    He has used the right statement.

    In the other hand this is a "MULLAHS PACT"

    The one who negotiate with DEVIL is DEVIL and more devil than devil is MULLAHS.

    You the Christians you have "ANTI CHRIST", we have "SATAN = Mullahs".
    We are paying with our lives to remove this Mullahs Regime,
    Do the same, oppose vigorously your RULERS, denounce them, force them to stop these anti human appeasement of the Mullahs.

    DON'T ACCEPT the MULLAHS PACT, Your RULERS ARE THE MULLAHS ALIKE.

  • Ziggy Zoggy

    Ghostwriter: have you considered that maybe part of Obama’s fantasy is that he thinks Iran deserves to be a nuclear power? This is the President who does not believe in American exceptionalism but does bow to islamophithecine potentates and sent an open letter to the puppet President Amadjihad rather than offend the mighty mullahs with presumptions of equality. I think his policies concerning Iran extend far beyond mere delusion.

  • SCREW SOCIALISM

    EternalNakba1948,

    - 9/11
    - 1993 truck bombing of the WTC
    - Bombing of Pan Am 103
    - 7/7 2005 London transport bombings
    - Madrid train bombing
    - Bali bombing
    - Beslan school hijacking massacre
    - Mumbai India massacre
    - 2012 Toulouse France massacre
    - Saddam Husseins poison gas attack on the Kurds – 5,000 dead
    - assassination of US Senator Robert F. Kennedy
    - richard reid sneaker bomber
    - Nigerian underwear bomber
    - Times Square SUV bomber
    - Death fatwa on writer Salman Rushdie
    - Death threats on Danish cartoonists over pen and ink drawings
    - Near nuclear war between the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and India
    - Beheading of journalist Daniel Pearl
    - Various other kidnapping and video taped executions
    - $100 per barrel Oil – Thanks OPEC
    - $4 per gallon gasoline – Thanks OPEC
    - 8 year Iraq / Iran war
    - Genocidal death threats by the Islamic Republic of Iran
    - Death threats against Europe by Muslims living IN Europe – see British Muslism
    - Honor killings of Muslim girls over "family honor" in the US too
    - Murder of Dutch filmmaker Theo Van Gogh
    - Fort Hood massacre
    - Assad kkklan of Syria murder of over 9,000 Syrians AND the absence of "anti-imperialist", "anti-war" protests outside the Syrian consulate
    - attack on the 1972 Olympics and murder of atheletes
    - hijacking of the Achille Lauro and the murder of a wheelchair bound innocent
    - Current Day Slavery in Sudan (Darfur) and Mauritania
    - Empire State Building observation deck murders
    - Muslim-Only city of mecca in saudi arabia
    - wahabbi / salafi fascism
    - Luxor Egypt massacre of tourists
    - murder of Coptic Christians in Egypt
    - synagogue bombings in Turkey
    - church bombings in Nigeria
    - church bombings in Pakistan
    - mosque bombings in Iraq

    And we are supposed to believe that "Islam means Peace"?

  • dos

    Signing a deal or not with regimes like Iran has no meaning. The only meaningful things are their actions and the result come out of their actions.

  • 080

    What is one to make of New York's former Ed Koch's statement that Dan Shapiro who is America's ambassador to Israel speaking to some Jewish lawyers association claimed that all preparations have been made to attack Iran should negotiiations fail? Everything is now is readiness. Koch also said that while speaking with President Obama in Sept. 2011 he was reassured that America would back Israel. Mayor Koch was so reassured that he now will if asked go anywhere to campaign for the re-election of the President.