Don’t Let the Media Fool You About Ryan’s Ratings

Don’t let the media fool you into thinking that Ryan’s speech pulled in low ratings. This story is running in a number of outlets and it relies on a comparison between the ratings for Palin’s speech in 2008 and Ryan’s now.

An average of 21.9 million viewers tuned into the nine broadcast and cable networks that were broadcasting convention proceedings Wednesday night between 10 p.m. and 11 p.m., according to Nielsen. That was 41% less than the 37.2 million who tuned in the same night four years ago, the research firm said.

This would be significant if not for the fact that TV viewership has been falling for a while. A convention held in 2012 is not going to have the same ratings as a convention held in 2008. If you watched any part of the 2012 RNC over the internet, then you already know why.

Television ratings have fallen as internet use has gone up and internet viewership ratings are still not reliable. YouTube ratings will have to be factored in along with traditional ratings and that still will not give us the whole picture. The traditional measures of viewership just don’t apply anymore and that’s neither good nor bad, it’s just the way it is. We have no idea how Ryan’s viewership compares to Palin’s. We just don’t.

Of the most-watched television events, almost all of them took place before the dominance of the internet. No Super Bowl that took place since the mid 90’s has scored anywhere near the same ratings.

Compare Super Bowl XLII in 2008 at 48.66 million with Super Bowl XlVI with 50.15 million in 1983. You can see the same difference with television finales. The newer a broadcast is, the lower its ratings are by comparison. This doesn’t mean that it’s unpopular, it just means that the way we watch things has changed.

  • amused

    Au Contraire , Ryan got good ratings ….lol…..for one of the best deceptive speeches heard in awhile ….lol…even FOX threw him under the bus ,and rightly so …he LIED . But then again we ARE in Post-Intelligent America .

    • CrisAn

      Yeah! Lol! Post-intelligent America! Lol. Hey, Does Obama, Biden, Holder, Wasserman-Schultz give deceptive speeches?! Not possibly! I mean, we can rely on CNN to 'fact check' all that, right?! Anderson Cooper will keep them honest! Lolololololololololololololololololololo….

  • amused

    oh absolutely , in fact I'm waiting to see if the Democrats can top Ryan .Romney's already an established LIAR . Biden is hard to tell if he's lying or just plain stupid , ,as for Obama lol…he lies like a politician .
    Yes Post Intelligent America , where the electorate votes with their emotions rather than their brains .And what was that about Cnn ? LOL…..maybe I should check FOX huh ? You do know that there is such a thing as The Congressional record ….right ? The process of fact checking as far as the individual goes is actually quite simple.If a politician says he's for " A " , but he actually voted against " A " , it's no great leap to conclude that he's lieing. In case you've never hear the term , it's called critical thinking .

  • amused

    Here is a list of five lies that Ryan told when he gave his speech at the Republican National Convention last night. Every single news outlet should report on these lies.
    1. Lie: President Obama is the “greatest threat” to Medicare.
    Truth: Obama didn’t make any cuts to Medicare benefits; he made cuts to provider reimbursements, to improve cost efficiency and extend the fiscal security of Medicare by eight years. According to the Medicare actuary, “[Obama’s] Affordable Care Act makes important changes to the Medicare program and substantially improves its financial outlook.”
    But Ryan actually does want to cut benefits. He proposed dismantling Medicare and replacing it with a voucher system, leaving millions of seniors to come up with more money to pay for care out of pocket.
    2. Lie: President Obama didn’t save a General Motors plant in Wisconsin.
    Truth: First, Obama wasn’t even in office when the GM plant closed. Second, Obama never made a promise to save it.

    • Beagle

      A distinction between benefits and reimbursements is like the difference between your salary and your paycheck. Which is to say there isn't one.

      Nice listing of all the other talking points. Axelrod will send your carton of smokes forthwith.

      Of course the GM plant closed a line under Bush and idled the rest under Obama, as Ryan suggested, and so on.

      Another Donk liar calling everyone else a liar. Must be a day ending in "y".

      • amused

        Axelrod won't send me anything , because after I hear Obam's lies they be posted on Huffpo. BTW , those were not TALKING POINTS , they were RYANS WORDS , as opposed to how he voted , which is a matter of record . You should really learn how to distinguish between the two . And maybe take a refresher course in reading comprehension.

  • amused

    cont'd- 3. Lie: President Obama ignored recommendations of a bipartisan debt commission.
    Truth: Paul Ryan actually sat on that commission. And he led Republicans in voting down the commission’s own recommendation. So the commission never gave a report to Obama, because Ryan himself voted to kill the report before it could.
    4. Lie: President Obama is responsible for the downgrading of the U.S. Credit Rating
    Truth: House Republicans, including Paul Ryan, held the full faith and credit of the United States hostage to try to ransom it for trillions of dollars in cuts to social programs without increasing taxes on the wealthy one dime. Standard & Poors said specifically, “We have changed our assumption on [revenue] because the majority of Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that would raise revenues.” That’s why our nation’s credit rating was downgraded.

  • amused

    5. Lie: Ryan wants to protect the “weak.”

    Truth: Ryan’s biggest feat in his political career was proposing a budget with dramatic cuts to programs benefiting the poor. He’d cut Medicaid by one third, take away health care insurance from 30 million Americans, and cut Pell Grants for 1 million students. All so that he could give more tax breaks to the rich.

    So are peopl like Ryan stupid ? Or do they think everyone else is ? Now in a few days we'll see what the Democrats LIE about ….yup Post-Intelligent America ….or is it just a matter of laziness ?

  • amused

    Obama's job charade :
    The job market has turned around since then, but those fields have represented only 22 percent of total job growth. Higher-wage occupations — those with a median wage of $21.14 to $54.55 — represented 19 percent of job losses when employment was falling, and 20 percent of job gains when employment began growing again.

    Lower-wage occupations, with median hourly wages of $7.69 to $13.83, accounted for 21 percent of job losses during the retraction. Since employment started expanding, they have accounted for 58 percent of all job growth.

    The occupations with the fastest growth were retail sales (at a median wage of $10.97 an hour) and food preparation workers ($9.04 an hour). Each of the categories account for 300,000 jobs .
    Want a job ? Flipping burgers at Mickey D's ? Hows about stocking shelves in your local supermarket ? OR a managerial position in CVS paying $ 10 an hour ?

  • Lfox328

    The numbers to look at will be for the DNC – I'm betting their numbers will have fallen proportionately.

    I'd be VERY surprised if Biden's ramblings get even those numbers.

  • Sandra

    Our sillyness media reviews their own showcase numbers, watching them drop as they squawk louder and louder struggling to get attention that in past days was automatic and numbingly stupid. The anchors' snarky 'outhouse' gossip mill dressed up as thoughtful sophistication doesn't attract anyone any longer. How about GDP numbers? Or, our deficit numbers? Or, the hairs on your nose numbers? So much material to work with! How to choose? Please tell me!! Shucks. I'm quite confident that Paul Ryan has a grasp of how gov't budgets function. And, certainly Romney can count higher than his allotment of WIC tickets. Having your own coin in your pocket is raw meat for progressives soiling self-actualized, responsible people.

  • amused

    That would all make some rudimentary sense , IF , you've heard anything in the way of a plan coming from either of the Romney /Ryan ticket . But you haven't , all you've heard is the usual partisan blunderbust , "gotta get rid of Obama " "gotta create jobs " blah bn;ah blah ….OK ….HOW ? Haven't heard anything there…maybe in the final 8 weeks in debates , will we learn that plan , if there is one You think Ryan knows budgets ? Really ? How come he sat on a bi-partisan Commitee agreed on a solution , then voted against it ?And who cares what a "snarky anchor " says ? YOU ? Everyone else has had to put up with the likes of Blimpy Limbaugh , Hannity , Beck ,on the right ,and Chris Matthews and the gang on the left .And anyone basing their conclusions on any of them is a moron .