Fact Check: Why Rick Perry Is Right About Turkey


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Is it inaccurate to say that Turkey is ruled by people perceived by some as Islamic terrorists? Some inside Turkey even perceive the AKP that way. Can AKP leaders be described as Islamic terrorists? A co-founder and a board member of the AKP is an Al Qaeda donor. Erdogan protected a leading Al Qaeda moneyman who was designated as a terrorist by just about every government and law enforcement agency on the planet.

Responding to Perry the Turkish Foreign Ministry sneered that Turkey had been in NATO when Perry was two years old. Which is a nice line, but that Turkey no longer exists. Erdogan’s AKP controlled system has purged the military with the claim the claim of a vast conspiracy that makes Stalin’s Moscow Trials seem credible. Comparing the Turkey of then to the present day is like comparing the Germany which joined the League of Nations in 1926 to Adolf Hitler’s Germany. Turkey still has the same name, but it is no longer the same country, instead it’s an Islamic empire.

Finally does Turkey belong in NATO? Aside from its terrorist flirtations, there is Turkey’s continued occupation of Cyprus. The Republic of Cyprus is an EU member, a third of whose territory is occupied by Turkish settlers. Turkish ethnic cleansing of the native peoples of Cyprus remains a blot on NATO along with the numerous other atrocities that have been carried out and continued to be carried out by the Turkish state.

In addition to Turkey’s genocide of Armenians, there is its continued repression of its Kurdish population. The Turkish state holds tens of thousands of political prisoners, many of them for the mere crime of speaking their native language. Turkish forces have repeatedly invaded Iraqi Kurdistan, massacring the civilian population and are even suspected of using chemical weapons.

Hundreds of Kurdish children sit in Turkish jail for merely participating in political protests. The members of a Kurdish children’s choir which visited San Francisco and sang a Kurdish folk song were put on trial. Their choir director has an arrest warrant still out for her and remained in the United States.

Does a brutal regime that oppresses its own population, occupies the territory of an EU member state and supports terrorists belong in NATO?

Is there any reasonable person who is not a member of the press or a diplomat who really thinks that it does? Take a look at a list of NATO members like Canada, the United States, Portugal, Norway and Turkey… and see which one doesn’t belong on that list.

The only reason why Turkey became part of NATO was because of Cold War strategic geography. But the Soviet Union is gone and today’s Turkey is aligned with Iran and other Islamic states that we are likely to end up fighting one day.

While the media continues claiming that the AKP is moderate, its own history and alliances show otherwise. Moderate governments do not stack jails full of political prisoners, they do not conduct an occupation of an EU member state, they do not make common cause with terrorists or endorse Islam over the rights of all citizens.

Telling the truth about Erdogan and the AKP is about more than condemning a gang of Islamst thugs who have used Saudi money to seize control of what was once the most modern Muslim country. It is also about affirming the rights of its victims, the native people of Cyprus, and the Armenians and the Kurds. It is about standing up for the values of freedom and democracy over the terror and tyranny of a man who wants to turn Turkey into another Iran.

CNN along with the New York Times and much of the rest of the media has chosen to repeat the same tiresome lies. Maybe for once their fact checks should actually involve using the facts.

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  • mrbean

    Obviously, the alliance of the left with the Islamic terrorists continues with the liberal media as useful idiots of Islam. Look at the front page stink the liberal media recently raised over a few Marines having wee wee on some taliban terrorist corpses that they killed, while Christians are being openly murdered in most Muslim states and it is totally ignored. The European press in Norway and Sweden even blames the white women victims for being gang raped and beate by muslim youth gangs.

    • morgaan23

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  • randy

    When did the taliban become terrorist? After the american invasion. Who can blame them. What about the murder of native americans by christians.

    • Maher

      1° The Talibans are terrorist by nature. Do you remember the U.S. embassies in Africa ?
      2° The Arabs occupied peoples since the 7th century A.D. The nature of their rule never change: ethnic and religious cleansing. It turned native Jews and Christians into minorities in their own lands, forcibly converting them to Islam, appropriating their shrines and erasing their history. So you are lecturing us about what, randy?

      • Ennis

        "The Talibans are terrorist by nature. Do you remember the U.S. embassies in Africa ?"

        With all due respect Maher, that was Al qaeda that did that. But your point still remains valid. A more appropiate example would have been them throwing acid into girls face for going to school.

      • ObamaYoMoma

        The Talibans are terrorist by nature.

        No…..that is a false PC multicultural myth and misconception about Islam of the kind that doomed both extremely counterproductive and incredibly fantasy based nation-building missions in Iraq and Afghanistan into inevitably becoming the two biggest strategic blunders ever in American history.

        The Taliban instead are jihadists, either violent jihadists or non-violent jihadists. As jihad, which is holy fighting in the cause of Allah, and terrorism, which can be for any number of political causes, in reality are two separate and mutually exclusive manifestations and indeed two entirely different and very distinct things altogether.

        Do you remember the U.S. embassies in Africa

        When the US embassies were blown up in Africa, they were violent acts of jihad, as opposed to terrorism. Since they were blown up in the cause of Allah by Muslims. However, unlike terrorism, jihad can also be non-violent.

        In fact, non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad relative to violent jihad occurs astronomically far more prevalently today in the world, but because of false PC multicultural myths and misconceptions about Islam, the non-violent varieties of stealth and deceptive jihad, such as mass Muslim immigration to the West for the purpose of stealth demographic conquest, takes place today totally unopposed.

        • mlcblog

          Jihad, Terrorism, hard to tell. Sorry. Still gets us dead.

          In my book, you continue to split hairs. I usually get a long explanation in response. Save it for someone else.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            That's okay….not everyone is intellectually sophisticated enough to get it. Your problem is you have been rendered blind by PC multiculturalism. Nevertheless, even though you can't get it, it is indeed one of the biggest mistakes the West makes.

          • mlcblog

            Why am I not surprise that you take the superior route. You, my better intellectually??

            Have you ever considered that you might not be simple enough? Seriously. There is wisdom in simplicity sometimes.

            I believe you are missing the point that we are all in danger here while folks like you are carefully categorizing the groups who are coming after us.

            I do appreciate your motives if it is to reduce us making a mistake and determining that an innocent would be thrown in with the guilty. However, my eyes are probably blinded by the obvious onslaught of muslim/islamic whatever you want to call it culture that is threatening our way of life. I have felt this way since childhood and am observing now that they are more on the move than ever and our defenses are down.

            I don't go around in fear.

            Let's just agree to disagree. Thank you for your input.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Your problem is not only are you blinded to the hilt by PC multiculturalism, but your intellect is also of very limited capacity. Thus, if you automatically want to conflate different civilizations together as all being equal and essentially the same per the dictates of PC multiculturalism go right ahead. I could care less what you do, but in the meantime stop bugging me because I'm not afflicted by PC multiculturalism the same way you are.

            Indeed, just because you are dumb enough to jump in the lake, doesn't mean that I'm dumb enough to jump in the lake with you. Thus, you agree to disagree with me because I could care less that you are a perpetual useful idiot.

          • mlcblog

            OK That's all. Consider yourself flushed.

            You continue with gratuitous insults for no apparent reason except personal gratification. You'll have to find a new repository.

            I am gone;.

    • winoceros

      Not because you'll actually absorb the answer, but they became terrorists when, as rebellious students, they decided the Afghan government wasn't Islamically pure enough (Talib means "student"). Their brutal overtaking of the Afghan people and the terror imposed on the villages they engulfed was indescribable.

      And the answer to your first question is 1994. Who can blame them? Certainly not sympathizers of fascist Muslims, such as yourself.

      Second, we are tired of your misplaced Native American grievances. How about the Native Americans who murdered Native Americans? Any sympathy for those folks?

      Troll.

    • wsk

      You can't be that naive !

    • Ghostwriter

      randy,you're like a broken record. You repeat the same things over and over again.

    • morgaan23

      No, the Taliban became terrorist when they were invented in 1875 and throughout the time they have been funded by the Wahhabis since the 1970s rise of OPEC on the Venezuelan model. They have most ASSUREDLY been overtly terrorist in Afghanistan since they were hired by the godless Benazir Bhutto to "clean up the highwaymen" on the roads between Peshawar and Qandahar, which were besieged by bandits. They took over the South by practicing extra-judicial control first of the bandits and then of everybody, hanging Hamid Karzai's father and refusing to bury his body and castrating his aide and letting him bleed to death on a post. When the Soviets were pushed out, civil war broke out between the Taliban and the Northern Alliance, and Ahmed Shah Masoud blew the major mountain pass between the North and South, preventing the Taliban from overrunning the whole country. They said he cried, because it was such a beautiful pass. Then the Taliban incarcerated and abused every woman in the country, taking the rights of all of them. They cut the hand off a woman in the bazaar in Kabul because her burqa slipped down to show a wrist bone as she reached for an orange. They shot a woman in the back, tearing her spine out, because she left the house after three days there alone to take her son to hospital. How long have they been terrorist: Since they decided they knew God and so could BE God. Got that?

  • Sedef

    Thank you!!! I'm a Turk and I can tell you every educated Turk, in Turkey and abroad, know the truth about Erdogan and his Islamic regime – he leads by fear and pays poor, uneducated people before his elections to gain the votes. He is a bully and his wife wears a headscarf!!! Ataturk, the founder of the republic of Turkey, REMOVED scarves, brought western wear, language and gave women rights to vote (before America!) and Erdogan is reversing all of it!!! Erdogan is a disgrace to Turkish people all over the world. Ask any educated Turk -they will tell you how they feel about him.

    • http://callofthepatriot.blogspot.com HermitLion

      Thank you, sir, for taking the time to give us the perspective of someone who lives inside the country.

      Erdogan and his thugs do not want educated Turks – they want people that are easy to control.

    • Dave

      I was stationed in Turkey in 1978. The country has changed for the worse in thirty four years. I was with the armor unit that liberated Cyprus from the Greeks. People forget that the elected government was overthrown by a junta of Greek officers. One of my language instructors was from Cyprus and had been thrown into a camp that closely resembled a concentration camp. The leader of Cyprus was Arch bishop Makarios and he went to the UN for help and was rebuffed.

  • Bashy Quraishy

    Most of these republican presidential candidates seem to be pandering to some special voting pool with their anti-Islam statements. If this is not the case, then I pity USA, which cannot or is not able to produce some intelligent and well-informed candidates.I shudder at the thought of an American president like Rick Perry with an IQ less than a monkey and whose worldview does not stretch further than his noose.
    GOD help us all, especially the poor people of USA if another cowboy comes to power in USA.
    Bashy

    • Maher

      Is Islam an obscurantist dogma, Bashy?

    • ObamaYoMoma

      Most of these republican presidential candidates

      Actually, ALL OF THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES are blind to the reality of Islam, thanks in large part to GWB, who just may be the most incompetent president ever in American history. He is for sure with respect to Islam and with respect to his reactions to 9/11. It also couldn't be more obvious that you are even more mentally incompetent that GWB.

      with their anti-Islam statements.

      Anti-Islam statement? You mean the truth? Read the Koran, the Hadith, and the Sunnah, the Koran, the Hadith, and the Sunnah is crystal clear. Indeed, if it is clear enough for 1.6 billion backward assed Muslims to be able to understand it, it is clear enough for the remainder of mankind to read and understand it, and per the texts and tenets of Islam, it is irrefutable that the entire Islamic world is currently waging a perpetual jihad against all non-Muslim unbelievers in the world to make Islam supreme.

      • Arius

        The "religion of peace" stupidity didn't start with GWB. It can be traced through all administrations back to the fifties, both democrats and republicans.

        • ObamaYoMoma

          The "religion of peace" stupidity didn't start with GWB. It can be traced through all administrations back to the fifties, both democrats and republicans.

          Actually, Reagan sought to extend the Iraq/Iran jihad for as long as possible and did a pretty damn good job at it, as Muslims on Muslim violence is always to our benefit and our advantage. He also bombed the crap out of Gaddafi and sunk the Iranian navy in Operation Praying Mantis. Reagan also used the jihadists in Afghanistan as a convenient proxy to fight the Soviets, while at the same time convincing the Saudis to severely cut world price for oil, because oil was the Soviets sole source of revenues.

          Say what you want about Reagan, but unlike GWB, who is easily the most incompetent president ever in American history, Reagan was pretty sharp when it came to figuring out how to manipulate Muslims. Indeed, the only thing I can figure is just like GWB, not only are you incredibly ignorant of Islam, but you also must be a liberal too.

          Indeed, did those other presidents proclaim immediately after 9/11 that Islam is a Religion of Peace™ being hijacked by a tiny minority of extremists, even while they were still digging out the dead bodies of 3,000 innocent Americans? Did they use the 9/11 jihad attacks like a Dhimmicrat on steroids as a crisis, to justify doubling the size, scope, and power of the federal government and to usurp our heretofore constitutionally protected rights and freedoms, ostensibly to protect the homeland from so-called terrorist attacks, but in reality to create the false sense of security necessary so that GWB could appease his Saudi benefactors by increasing mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage?

          Moreover, if you believe the homeland is safer today than before 9/11, then I have a bridge I need to sell you, as we have far more stealth jihadists living in America today as a fifth column thanks to GWB.

          Not to mention that as soon as the economy headed south in 2008, budget deficits and the national debt exploded through the roof as a direct result of all that needless power grab thanks to GWB. Thus, today we are on the fast track to becoming the next Greece.

          Meanwhile, had GWB used common sense and outlawed Islam and banned and reversed mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage ASAP instead, which he could have done very easily following 9/11, the the trillions of dollars that were needlessly wasted wouldn't have been wasted, we wouldn't be on the fast track to becoming the next Greece, all those innocent Americans that were killed in violent jihad attacks inside the the homeland since 9/11 would all still be alive and well today, and the homeland with zero Muslim stealth jihadists living in America as a fifth column would be exponentially far safer today.

          Finally, both incredibly counterproductive and exceedingly fantasy based nation-building missions in Iraq and Afghanistan that were based on false PC multicultural myths and misconceptions about Islam inevitably turned into the two biggest strategic blunders ever in American history thanks again to GWB. Indeed, thousands of patriotic American troops were either maimed or killed and trillions of taxpayer dollars were wasted all for nothing as well. Hence, even though GWB is enjoying a quite life in retirement and is apparently your hero, he needs to be held to account for all those troops that ended up dying or being maimed for life all for nothing. Someone must be held to account!

        • Indioviejo

          Actually F.D.Roosvelt met with the Saudi Pederast during WWII. Aramco is just as American as Apple pie, and we the little people knew nothing about Islam, nor cared. 9/11 was a wake up call of sorts for most of us, but there is a long way to go.

    • winoceros

      Well, the peacemaker has arrived. Thank you for sharing with us the all the Wisdom over there at the U.N.

      I've dredged through your several lines of commentary there, and didn't see anything other than a reference to Perry as an "ape" (the fate of disbelievers via Allah's wrath) and a comment about being anti-Islam as pandering.

      Thank heaven Perry, after his love affair with the Sufi Turks, and his betrayal of the Texas school system by allowing Islamists to stuff the curriculum full of apologist lies, has read the tea leaves. If you are inviting Islam into the People's house, then you are no friend of the People.

      What did Perry say that was so wrong? I didn't see that in your comment.

  • oldtimer

    Since only a small portion of Turkey is actually in Europe and the majority is in Asia, geographically it should not be part of the EU.

  • ObamaYoMoma

    So no sooner did Rick Perry suggest that Turkey had no place in NATO and that some perceive its government to be run by Islamic terrorists than the media rolled out its fact checks.

    Only people blinded by false PC multicultural myths and misconceptions about Islam could be naïve enough to believe that Turkey's government is run by terrorists. It's not; it's run by jihadists, just like all Islamic countries that are run by Muslims in the world are also run by jihadists, as per the sixth and most important pillar of Islam, ALL MAINSTREAM ORTHODOX MUSLIMS ON EARTH are jihadists. A tiny minority of them are violent jihadists, while the vast overwhelming majority of them are non-violent stealth and deceptive jihadists, and the few that are not jihadists are not Muslims at all, but instead blasphemous apostates that per the dictates of MAINSTREAM ORTHODOX ISLAM must be executed.

    Thus, mass Muslim immigration to the West with all of its excess baggage is in effect mass jihadist immigration to the West, as Muslims never ever migrate to the West or anywhere else for that matter to assimilate and integrate but instead to eventually subjugate and dominate via the imposition of Sharia for the purpose of stealth demographic conquest to make Islam supreme.

    Indeed, I challenge anyone to point to just one country anywhere in the world where mass Muslim immigration has been occurring for decades and where the vast overwhelming majority of Muslim immigrants have actually assimilated and integrated instead of forming Muslim no-go zones ruled by Sharia as fifth columns and in direct contravention to the laws of the states in which they reside.

    As a matter of fact, per the dictates of PC multiculturalism, jihad, which can be both violent and non-violent, is always conflated as being terrorism, which as its name implies is always only violent. Thus, because non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad, such as mass Muslim immigration to the West for the purpose of stealth demographic conquest, isn't construed as being violent, it isn't construed as being terrorism, and if it isn't construed as being terrorism, it isn't opposed.

    Hence, while this writer and most of the people he helps to brainwash are primarily transfixed only on terrorism, the truth is the astronomically far greater threat to the peace, security, and freedom of the West emanates from non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad – such as mass Muslim immigration to the West for the purpose of stealth demographic conquest – that today is able to occur throughout the West because false PC multicultural myths and misconceptions are constantly being reinforced by incompetent writers like this one.

    Thus, I disagree with Rick Perry and the writer, the government of Turkey isn't run by terrorists. Instead, it's run by jihadists, and as such it should be run out of NATO ASAP.

    CNN Statement: “Turkey is not ruled by Islamic terrorists. It is led by a party with Islamist roots, the Justice and Freedom Party, or AKP.”

    According to the current prevailing false PC multicultural paradigm, if the officials in Turkey's government aren't perpetrating terrorist acts, which as its name implies is always only violent, then they aren't construed as being terrorists. Hence, according to the same false PC multicultural paradigm that this writer constantly reenforces ad nauseum every day on a daily basis, the Turkish government isn't run by terrorists.

    So while technically Erdogan and Gul are not going out and planting bombs, they have close ties to those who do and they support them.

    Sorry dude….CNN is right and you are wrong. According to the same false PC multicultural paradigm that you promote and reenforce every day on a daily basis, Erdogan and Gul are not terrorists. You see it just doesn't work for you! The same way that Iraq and Afghanistan both inevitably turned into the two biggest strategic blunders ever in American history, when you build foundations on falsehoods, myths, and misconceptions, you are building a foundation on nothing, and that is what you have been doing for years. Sorry dude…you can't have it both ways, CNN is right and you are wrong.

    • Jakareh

      Even though I agree with you about Islam, I must say this dichotomy you have created between jihad and terrorism is non-sense.

      Terrorism, as opposed to regular warfare, has always been a major part of jihad, starting with Muhammad himself, with the assassinations, raids, and executions he ordered or committed himself.

      • ObamaYoMoma

        Even though I agree with you about Islam, I must say this dichotomy you have created between jihad and terrorism is non-sense.

        Of course, you do, as PC multiculturalism is like cancer. Once it invades a society it is almost impossible to eradicate.

        Nevertheless, because you are blinded by false PC multiculturalism, you are oblivious to the reality that non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad, such as mass Muslim immigration to the West for the purpose of stealth demographic conquest, represents an astronomically far greater threat to the peace, freedom, and security of the West than does violent jihad. As thanks to false PC multiculturalism, which you religiously adhere to as if it is some sort of immutable commandment from God, non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad, because it isn't violent isn't construed as being terrorism, and because it isn't construed as being terrorism, it isn't opposed.

        In any event, when America eventually becomes the next Cote D'Ivoire or Nigeria, maybe you will understand, but by that time it will already be too late. Not to mention as well, that it is non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad that makes violent jihad in West possible in the first place.

        Terrorism, as opposed to regular warfare, has always been a major part of jihad, starting with Muhammad himself, with the assassinations, raids, and executions he ordered or committed himself.

        That's utterly absurd. Jihad and terrorism are separate and mutually exclusive manifestations and indeed two entirely different and very distinct things altogether.

        In fact, jihad, per the sixth and most important pillar of Islam, is an obligatory duty in Islam for EVERY MAINSTREAM ORTHODOX MUSLIM ON EARTH and is holy fighting in the cause of Allah against non-Muslim unbelievers to make Islam supreme. It is also a manifestation of Islamic civilization only.

        Whereas terrorism, on the other hand, which can be for any number of political causes and is never in the cause of Allah, is perpetrated by non-Muslims only who are all political extremists called terrorists. It is also a manifestation of the un-Islamic world only.

        Additionally, jihad in stark contrast to terrorism can be both violent and non-violent, while terrorism, on the other hand, as its name implies is always only violent. For instance, the 9/11 jihad attacks were violent jihad attacks and mass Muslim immigration to the West for the purpose of stealth demographic conquest to make Islam supreme is non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad.

        As a matter of fact, non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad relative to violent jihad is employed against the West by the Islamic world astronomically far more prevalently and in reality constitutes by far the greatest threat to the peace, freedom, and security of the West.

        In fact, the leading proponents of non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad in the world today – the Saudis and the Gulf State Emirs – have been fighting off a jihad being waged against them since in the late 90s by the biggest proponents of violent jihad in the world today, which is AQ. As the proponents of non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad see rogue violent mega jihad attacks – such as 9/11 – as being exceedingly counterproductive and harmful because it not only invites wars against Muslims, but it also attracts unwanted scrutiny, attention, and focus on Islam. Thus, while the leading proponents of non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad 100 percent agree with the leading proponents of violent jihad on the ultimate goal to make Islam supreme, at the same time they nevertheless violently disagree when it comes to the strategy and tactics to be employed.

        –continued below

      • ObamaYoMoma

        As a matter of fact, that's why we see many Islamic countries in the world today cooperating with the West with respect to AQ. It's because AQ is also waging jihad against them, at the same time that they are also waging a non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad against the West simultaneously via mass Muslim immigration for the purpose of stealth demographic conquest.

        Indeed, I challenge you or anyone else for that matter to point to just one country anywhere in the world where mass Muslim immigration has been occurring for decades and where the vast overwhelming majority of Muslim immigrants have actually assimilated and integrated instead of forming Muslim no-go zones ruled by Sharia as fifth columns and in direct contravention to the laws of the states in which they reside.

        Further, jihad unlike terrorism targets non-Muslim unbelievers, either civilian non-combatants, such as in the in the Madrid Train Bombings, or military combatants, such as US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, whereas terrorism, on the other hand, indiscriminately targets all civilian non-combatants.

        Moreover, jihad is only perpetrated or waged by MAINSTREAM ORTHODOX MUSLIMS only called jihadists, while terrorism in stark contrast is perpetrated only by political extremists called terrorists.

        Jihad has been ongoing perpetually since the days of Muhammad almost 1400 years ago. Meanwhile, in most instances terrorist attacks like the Oklahoma City Bombing or the Anders Breivik Terrorist Attack are only one time events for causes other than Allah.

        In fact, Muslims never ever perpetrate acts of terrorism because terrorism is an un-Islamic manifestation, which means that in Islam terrorism is blasphemous and therefore is a capital offense. Incidentally, it is also the reason why Muslims can honestly denounce terrorism with a straight face.

        Hence, I hate to inform you but you are just simply flat our wrong because you are blinded by the false ideology of PC multiculturalism. Indeed, just like PC multiculturalism conflates all civilizations, cultures, and societies together as all being equal and desirous of the same exact things, PC multiculturalism likewise also conflates jihad and terrorism together as being one and the same thing However, in the case of conflating jihad and terrorism together as being equal and the same thing, because non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad isn't violent, it isn't construed as being terrorism, and if it isn't construed as being terrorism, then it isn't opposed.

    • ohohmrbill

      So what is Perry going to do with the Gulen Charter Schools and there obvious racketeering schemes? Everyone should write in with that question. Read this article and ask who got donation money and a free trip to Turkey. Make sure to share this with others. It is not just Texas, these schools are in 25 states and growing.
      http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/07/education/07cha

      To learn more Google and you tube Gulen charter schools. Share the knowledge.

  • Bashy Quraishy

    Dear Maher
    I am not a religious person but I do know through my work and research that most people do not live their lives according to Dogmas. However some followers of Judaism, Christianity and Islam consider their religion as a doctrine laid down with heavenly authority. This settled opinion is not shared by others.
    In the case of Islam, a close study of Quran reveals that it is 90% moral codes, which can be applicable at any time and place, while remaining 10% are rules and regulations for the state. These were meant for the period of Prophet’s time. Intellectually most Muslims know that but emotionally, they are reluctant to admit it.
    Islam is definitely not an obscurantist dogma. I find Islam and for that matter other religions simple and easy to follow. Unfortunately, most of those who have monopoly on religious interpretations – Priests, Rabbis and Imams and others – have made these very rigid and hard to understand.
    I hope that I have answered your question.
    Having said that I must tell you that my first comment was not about religions but the stupid statements coming out of the Republican Party’s presidential candidates. I sincerely believe and I am sure any sensible American would tend to understand that people like Rick Perry are a disgrace to the good name of USA.

    • winoceros

      And we reply to people by hitting "reply," else, they do not receive notification that you actually did respond to them. Not wanting to have your posts "buried" in threads by creating new threads seems rather immodest, which I'm sure was not your intent.

    • winoceros

      I cannot quibble with how you perceive your relation to Islam. To each his own, thankfully, where I live. But I make a small quibble with your statement "a close study of Quran reveals that it is 90% moral codes, which can be applicable at any time and place, while remaining 10% are rules and regulations for the state". I would love to see your source for this analysis, but my quibble is simply that the 90% which you state "can be applicable" should actually read "must apply". There are no prescriptions or proscriptions in the Qur'an that have been relegated to history or obscurity, bar the references to camels as currency and the like.

      I find a large percentage of the Qur'an to deal wtih the disposition or treatment of those who disbelieve. I also find those dispositions degrading and deplorable, and reject those tenets of Islam wholly.

      Perry is not a disgrace for what he said. He is a disgrace for not realizing it 20 years ago.

    • ObamaYoMoma

      However some followers of Judaism, Christianity and Islam consider their religion as a doctrine laid down with heavenly authority. This settled opinion is not shared by others.

      Actually, you don't know as much as you think you know. For instance, like a loon you are morally equating Islam with true faiths. However, Islam is not a true faith. Indeed, the word Islam in Arabic means “submission” and the word Muslim in Arabic means “one who submits.” As all Muslims must submit totally, completely, and unconditionally to the will of Allah.

      Thus, unlike in true faiths where adherents are perfectly free to question and even challenge the texts and tenets of their respective faiths and to leave their respective faiths or to even convert to another faith altogether if so desired, in Islam, on the other hand, because the freedom of conscience is forbidden, those same actions, blasphemy in the first instance and apostasy in the second, are capital offenses.

      Indeed, how many faiths likewise punish blasphemy and apostasy via the penalty of death? The answer is zero, irrefutably proving at the same that Islam isn't a faith.

      Therefore, if Islam isn't a faith, then what exactly is it? It's a supremacist theo-political totalitarian ideology that masquerades as being a faith to dupe the gullible societies it intends to eventually subjugate into a very draconian form of Islamic totalitarianism via the imposition of Sharia to make Islam supreme.

      Indeed, Islam is far closer to Communism than it is to being a faith, as just like Communism, Islam seeks world domination, and the end result of Islam, exactly like Communism, is totalitarianism and lots and lots of misery.

      In the case of Islam, a close study of Quran reveals that it is 90% moral codes, which can be applicable at any time and place, while remaining 10% are rules and regulations for the state. These were meant for the period of Prophet’s time.

      Dude…someone blew smoke up your butt and you are so gullible that you probably enjoyed it. The reality is the infamous sword verses of the Koran collectively make it an obligatory duty for EVERY MAINSTREAM ORTHODOX MUSLIM ON EARTH to fight jihad in the cause of Allah against non-Muslim unbelievers to make Islam supreme.

      Indeed, per the Doctrine of Abrogation, which is universally accepted by all of MAINSTRERAM ORTHODOX ISLAM and by ALL SCHOOLS OF ISLAMIC JURISPRUDENCE, when verses of the Koran come into conflict with each other, the latter issued verses of the Koran abrogate, i.e., supersede and replace, the earlier issued verses of the Koran.

      Hence, since the infamous sword verses of the Koran were some of the very last verses that were issued by Muhammad shortly before his death, all earlier issued verses of the Koran that they conflict with, which includes all peaceful verses of the Koran, have been abrogated, superseded, and replaced by those infamous sword verses.

      Therefore, it is irrefutable that ALL MAINSTREAM ORTHODOX MUSLIMS ON EARTH are obligated to fight jihad, which can be both violent and non-violent, against non-Muslim unbelievers to make Islam supreme.

      Intellectually most Muslims know that but emotionally, they are reluctant to admit it.

      Go buy a clue! In Islam the freedom of conscience is forbidden and is in fact blasphemy, and blasphemy in Islam is a capital offense. Indeed, in Islam the Koran is understood to be the literal word of Allah, i.e., the expressed will of Allah, and anyone seen trying to change or challenge the meanings of those words is a blasphemer and as such must be executed per the dictates of Islam. Indeed, Islam is impossible to ever be reformed, because all reformers are blasphemers that per the dictates of Islam must be executed.

      Unfortunately, most of those who have monopoly on religious interpretations – Priests, Rabbis and Imams and others – have made these very rigid and hard to understand.

      You don't have a damn clue! If you did, you wouldn't morally equate Islam with true faiths! In other words, you are an unhinged leftwing moonbat and you couldn't be more ignorant, gullible, and naïve. In fact, you are the epitome of a useful idiot.

      I hope that I have answered your question.

      You made a complete and utter fool out of yourself!

      but the stupid statements coming out of the Republican Party’s presidential candidates.

      Yeah it is stupid because the Turkish government is run by jihadists and not by terrorists, as terrorism in Islam is blasphemous because it is un-Islamic and therefore it is a capital offense. The fact of the matter is the Republican Party, like the Dhimmicrat Party too, is blinded by PC multiculturalism. In other words, both major political parties in American are completely incompetent where Islam is concerned.

      I sincerely believe and I am sure any sensible American would tend to understand that people like Rick Perry are a disgrace to the good name of USA.

      Rick Perry is a buffoon. That was was obvious from the debates where he repeatedly embarrassed his state and himself. But you are 10 times the buffoon of Rick Perry, and that is irrefutable!

    • wsk

      Islam is a terrorist cult- not a religon.

    • Maher

      Thanks Bashy. Yes, Islam is an obscurantist and crime generating dogma. As for the Judaism and Christianity, take care they will hang you for blastfemy!; You might seek asylum in Iran, Saudi Arabia + 5O other countries at least. No? You are right; there you’ll be hanged for sure.
      PS If you think (in good faith) that your first comment was not about religion just have a look at the Saef's post (7 hours ago)

  • Bashy Quraishy

    Dear Oldtimer
    I think that you have not looked at the map lately.
    Turkey is much more a part of continental Europe than Cyprus and Malta, which are out there in the Mediterranean sea and have no common borders with Europe. So please do not display your ignorance with such silly remarks.
    Kind regards
    Bashy

    • winoceros

      Other than lengthy periods of brutal Muslim conquest, those islands have been part of Europe for millennia. Turkey hasn't.

      And what makes it part of continental Europe? Just be cause two other places aren't? That's the argument?

      Nations are social constructs, not geographic ones. So while that doesn't make an argument for inclusion, neither does it exclude.

      Simply put, Turkey doesn't belong in the EU because it doesn't share values with the Europeans, not borders.

    • oldtimer

      I think you are the ingnorant one. I never brought up any other place except Turkey. And if you know your geography Turkey is in what is sometimes called Eurasia. Most of Turkey including it's capital are in Asia. Look it up before you make silly remarks . But I agree with winoceros, it's there values that are more important.

  • muchiboy

    "Does a brutal regime that occupies the territory of an EU member state and
    supports terrorists really belong in NATO?"

    Perhaps not,but does a Zionist state that occupies a land through an unconscionable policy of ethnic cleansing deserve the support of western democracies? I think not. The west,especially America,needs to look at her own house and policy before trying to find fault elsewhere.muchiboy

    • winoceros

      Suppose that would be true if your premise were true. But since it isn't, and you cannot find "ethnic cleansing" occurring by anyone other than generation after generation of Arab jihadists, then I suppose your conclusion isn't true either.

      Support the jihad, do you?

      • muchiboy

        The charge of ethnic cleansing,then and now,by Jews in Israel,is not an outrageous accusation.It is simply tragic and ironic,given the contemporary history of ethnic cleansing and genocide of the European Diaspora themselves,and certainly arguable.Indeed,it may be as good an excuse as ever there was one.
        As to supporting Jihad,or the Crusades for that matter,(I am RC),the answer is NO.I have no problem with a Jewish homeland in Israel,just as long as it remains a homeland for the Palestinian people,too.I think you two peoples are deserving of one another,and I am not being entirely malicious nor sarcastic.muchiboy

        • wsk

          Muchiboy,
          Where did the "palestinians" come from? Do a little research and the answer may suprise you.

        • winoceros

          Yet you still have not demonstrated support for your premise of "ethnic cleansing."

          Somehow, not allowing encroachments of battle turf and civilians to hide behind in order to protect one's own people is somehow "ethnic cleansing."

          Somehow people who want to kill you, because of your ethnicity vis a vis their ideology, when deterred, are being "ethnically cleansed."

          That is not "ethnic" cleansing. That's fighting back jihadist encroachment. Who is the one firing missles on a weekly basis into civilian populations?

        • Maher

          Israel is the only country where the christian population is growing. From 35,000 in 1948 to 180,000 today.
          In 1948 there were 120,000 Arabs in Israel. Over 1.500.000 today.
          Does it fit your blah, blah, blah…?
          Let's have a look at the Chaldeans in Irak, Copts in Egypt, Kabils in Algeria, etc. The Jews used to live all over the M.E. and the Maghreb millenia prior to the Arab Conquest (sorry, occupation). Zero Jews today. Who's practicising ethnic cleansing? I bet you won't answer me, Muchiboy!

    • ObamaYoMoma

      Muchiboy….it has been irrefutably proven to you that what has been happening in Israel is a permanent jihad of conquest being waged against the Jewish unbelievers in Israel by the Islamic world via their so-called proxies the so-called Palestinians. Yet you continue to deny reality. That is a product of two different manifestations. First, you are totally consumed with Jew hatred. Thus, you don't care about the truth. Second, your grandfather is a Muslim from the region. Hence, the truth with respect to Israel again doesn't mean crap. Hence, you are only here to incite hatred and violence to foment another mass genocidal holocaust of Jews.

    • stern

      muchiboy, don't you get tired of having your tired old arguments disproved, time and time again? Doesn't it get boring, saying the same thing again and again, only to have others prove to you how wrong you are? Wouldn't you have more fun playing in the sand with your fellow-traveling Jihad lovers rather than here, where people actually know enough to counter your garbage?

      Go away again. Please.

    • Maher

      1° In ’48 US and GB (not only) saw Israel as a Soviet agent. They decreed a weapons embargo upon her. Israel beat 5 Arab armies bare hands. 64 years and 4 victorious wars later (by the way, in ’48 Arabs said it will last one week) when Israel become a leader in modern warfare, you still blah, blah, blah, despite of an overwhelming sympathy of the American people for Israel.
      2° Germany aggressed Poland, Czechoslovakia, Russia, etc, and lost the war. She lost the Sudeten, Silesia, Konigsberg as well. That’s fine for you and all the islamofascists like you (not only).
      Arabs aggressed Israel, lost the Six Day War and territories they grabbed in ’48 aggression when they refuse the partition of Palestine. Anybody?

    • John Saunders-Smith

      When muslims and their supporters talk about ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, one has to wonder how stupid they are and all the while muslims have totally eradicated non-muslims from the countries they’ve invaded.

      Palestinian population is increasing year on year not to mention the billions they get in aid from non-muslim countries while Arabs around them would not even let a Palestinian in their home as a servant.

      Fact.

    • johnnywoods

      Muchi, would you care to provide examples of "ethnic cleansing" by "the Zionist state"?

    • Carl

      Bull Crap. Lies fueled by hatred.

  • Marty

    The good news is that turkey will eventually be reduced to a rump state. The eastern part of the country is fast attaining a Kurdish majority. The turks insist on referring to the Kurdish community as composed of "mountain turks", but that won't change the outcome. It is a matter of time before a sovereign and independent Kurdistan surfaces on the corpses of failed and fake states such as turkey, iran, syria, and iraq. These countries should not be around in their present form anyway.

    • Jakareh

      That may well happen, but there is absolutely no reason to believe Kurdistan would be a friend to the West.

  • Freedom Lover

    Lets show those Islamic fundamentalists Turkey who is the boss. I say we bomb them into submission next after Iran. Then the MIddle East will learn to love the American values of democracy, freedom and liberty!

    • winoceros

      sarc crap

      No, no matter how little or how much bombing, they, as Muslims, will never, ever love the American values of democracy, freedom, and liberty. They might as well be from Mars.

      They individually appreciate it when they are in a place where they can experience those natural rights. But as soon as those rights are guaranteed for others, well, that's where the shari'a gets laid down.

      Grow up.

  • Ben

    Bashy declares he is not a religious person.He must have die of rage and shame for the Muslim terrorists` crimes: they say about 20 000 acts of terror in the world for last 10 years and killed great number of the people!

  • NotaBene

    Does FPM want the US to have ANY allies at all?

  • muchiboy

    "Who's practicising ethnic cleansing? I bet you won't answer me, Muchiboy!"

    Firstly,I am not an apologist for the Arab world.There are others more informed and concerned about Arab corruption and crimes (against their own or others).However,for what it's worth,I don't disagree with your assessment of Arab behaviour towards Jews,generally.There were notable exceptions.But,then,we can talk about European behaviour towards the Diaspora,can't we? I am informed and concerned about the Nakba.It just so happens that the Nakba can be laid at the feet of the Diaspora (Zionists),as the Holocaust can be laid at the feet of the Germans(Nazi's).
    The Arab spring is a hopeful beginning for the Arab world that may result in worthwhile changes.I see no such hopeful sign from the Zionists with respect to correcting their reprehensible policies that have deprived the Palestinians of their homeland and birth right.At the very least,the Jews are no better then the Palestinians,though I believe the moral high ground,if it exists at all in Israel/Palestine,is occupied by the Palestinian people. muchiboy

    • Nakba1948

      Well-said, muchiboy.

      • muchiboy

        Welcome to the lions den,Nakba1948! I have your back! But NEVER FORGET what Jews have endured ,at the hands of both Christians and Muslims.And pray they will someday acknowledge what they have done in turn to the Palestinian people.muchiboy

        • winoceros

          If it happened the way you imagined it, then yes, the world would be a dark place.

          Wallow in your fantasy revisionist history, if you like.

    • Maher

      OK Mushiboy, the Arab World is a cloacae. A spring one? But you don’t even mention the ethnic cleansing going on under your eyes. You do nothing for these peoples Mushiboy. At least I am speaking of. What a hypocrite you are!

  • muchiboy

    " At least I am speaking of. What a hypocrite you are!"

    What can one ordinary man do,Maher,when there are so many wrongs and evils about us? What can one life guard do when there are several swimmers about to drown? Pick and choose,no more,and certainly no less.Sometimes you have to envy the man with one blind eye.Your criticism is not without merit.muchiboy

    • johnnywoods

      Hey muchi, you might start by getting your facts straight.

    • winoceros

      Fascinating to watch you not reply to those whom you purport to answer, so you can have the last word without a rebuttal.

      Just another someone who doesn't believe in open debate, I guess.

  • Bashy Quraishy

    I just saw that Texas Gov. Rick Perry will drop out of the race for the Republican presidential nomination on Thursday ahead of South Carolina's primary election.It was also reported by Huffingtonpost on: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/19/rick-per

    What a relief? One less ignorant cowboy in the race. Although I doubt it but I still hope that someone with a little bit more wisdom than Perry will challenge Obama so that USA can have a worthy president.

  • Ghostwriter

    Well,Mr. Quraishy,I'm amazed you've been studying the Presidential race. From what I've seen of the overwheming majority of Muslims,anti-Americanism comes naturally for you. It's a lot like breathing. Must eat,must breathe,must hate America and Americans. That's how it is for people like you. As for muchiboy,he is an anti-semitic creep that would make Joesph Goebbels happy. He despises Jews like Mr. Quraishy despises Americans. muchiboy wants Israel destroyed because he thinks Jews are on the same level as rats.
    Mr. Quraishy feels the same about Americans. He sees us as rats and doesn't really care what happens to us.I doubt that Muslims will ever see Americans as anything more than a disease to be wiped out. Those are the feelings of Mr. Quraishy and muchiboy.

  • maria

    To machyboy.
    You are muslim and you as it was order by Mohhamad always try lie and decept infidels. Jews occupied Judea? Jews occupied Jerusalem? Why did not youmention that Spaniards occupied Spain? By Koran if any country was conquered by muslim it is their.
    You consider already that US and Canada and sure Europe are yours. Disgusting filthy losers who can not make their own countries civilized want to conquered what was built by others.

    • randy

      Just as the dirty,filthy christians conquered north america from the natives.

  • Bashy Quraishy

    If I have to answer all of the personal attacks by FrontPage fans, then I shall nothing else to do. The reason, people should discuss issues is to educate themselves and be better informed. Sadly, 99% commentators on this blog either have no intention to listen to someone else viewpoint or they are living in a one-dimensional world. I do not blame them for being ignorant and so anti-Islam because they are subject to a massive lies and propagandas against other faiths.
    For example, I just read a survey by PEW from USA, which shows that more than half (53%) of white evangelical Protestants — a key element of the GOP base — say that the Mormon religion is not a Christian faith. Here is the link: http://pewresearch.org/databank/dailynumber/?Numb
    I have studied in USA and know many Americans in Europe. Many of them are decent people and have no grudge against anyone, including Muslims.
    So why such hatred and negativity among FrontPage readers. I got my answer to this today while reading a report on Reuters News Agency.
    One in five adults in the United States, or nearly 50 million people, suffered mental illnesses in 2010, with women and young adults suffering disproportionately, a government report released on Thursday found. http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/19/us-usa-

    So maybe that is the real reason, many American support Rick Perry, Tea Party and other ignorant cowboys. Please check both links before spitting extra poison on this blog. I however rest my case.
    Kind regards
    Bashy

    • Indioviejo

      Maybe we are crazy and lucky enough to elect a REAL cowboy and we can get him to blow y'all away. Maybe a glass parking lot in Mecca and Medina would be nice.

  • muchiboy

    "Hey muchi, you might start by getting your facts straight."

    Well,johnnywoods,that's a good start.But while we may agree on certain facts,and there are facts that are a matter of historical record,we both likely would disagree on the morality of the agreed upon facts.I was asked by another poster to give examples of Zionist/Israeli ethnic cleansing.To me,that is like a Nazi officer asking a Jew at Treblinka to provide him with an example of genocide.I mean,if you have to ask,you aren't going to see it anyway,even if we rub your nose in it,or,to carry on the horrific analogy,even if you were to trip over the corpse.muchiboy

  • muchiboy

    I have posted this excellent series before.I only share it to show there can be reasonable debate on this topic.muchiboy
    http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/episodes/2012/01/18/zioni

  • cynthia curran

    Well, if Perry and Gringrich are so anti-Islam why are they buddies with Grover Norquist. Perry like Gringrich is basically trying to appeal with the Republican base, and Perry and Gringrich would probably support Turkey like the other presidents. Norquist is heavily influnece with Islam but both Perry and Gringrich are great friends since Grover has a lot of contacts.

    • Indioviejo

      Norquist is a closet Muslim, just like the Manchurian President.

  • muchiboy

    Zionism from within Part 2..
    http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/episodes/2012/01/19/zioni

    • UCSPanther

      CBC radio aka The Communist Broadcasting Corporation

  • Indioviejo

    Islam is the curse of Turkey! Kemal Ataturk's introduced secularism in Turkey, but he couldn't educate the people as to the evils of Islam. He knew very well why Muslims stay backward, but he couldn't go far enough to make a permanent change. The Shah of Iran knew it too, but the criminal leftist in the west sandbagged him. Just as the Iranians have payed a heavy price for their ayatollahs, the Turks will also pay for their Imams. Let us enjoy the spectacle.

  • muchiboy

    "CBC radio aka The Communist Broadcasting Corporation"

    A closed mind goes hand in hand with a closed heart.I love arguing with fools,I hardly ever have to say a word,they usually say it for me.UCSPanther,you hardly would have had time to listen to either part one or part two.Do yourself a favour and listen to the series.It is both excellent and balanced. muchiboy

  • Richard G.

    I am grateful for the very powerful bill of particulars you have drawn up against the Erdogan regime in Turkey. It is a sad commentary on our domestic political situation that a few
    conservative commentators joined the LSM in attacking Rick Perry for his essentially
    accurate characterization of the Turkish regime. With the information you have provided
    I hope to educate them.

  • bearone7777

    Hello,
    When have these "SPECIAL-IDIOTS" on the left ever let a lie not represent what they actually believe in. There so-called truth squads would not know the dam truth, if it stepped up, and bit them in the face.

  • ohohmrbill

    So what is Perry going to do with the Gulen Charter Schools and there obvious racketeering schemes? Everyone should write in with that question. Read this article and ask who got donation money and a free trip to Turkey. Make sure to share this with others. It is not just Texas, these schools are in 25 states and growing.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/07/education/07cha

    To learn more Google and you tube Gulen charter schools. Share the knowledge.

  • Fearless

    What's that? You don't like Jews? Who will invent your medicines? Who will create your weapons? Who will write the movies you watch? Who will invent the devices you use? Who will invent new cures for illnesses? Who will excel at research and development of scientific ideas? Who will write the jokes that amuse you?

  • maria

    You are absolutely right. Anti-cemitism is based on envy. Fruitless Arabs and Muslim overall with their instilled by their religion idea that they are supermen can not comprehend how such a small population as Jews produced so many Nobel laureats (more than 150 and 6 Israelis just in the last 10 years) and they (1.5 BL) have miserable 2 (one is Turkey writer who based by Muslims). That is why they hate Jews and Israel. It is their goal first to conquer Israel (little satan as they say) and then US (big satan) and rull over us civilized and advanced nations. All what they do is stealth jihad including their repeated Nazis/Gebbelles propaganda/ lie about Israel and Jews overall and violent Jihad/terrorism. Leftists are their supporters as leftists/socialists/communists/progressists are have the same goal: to seize the power over all the world. islamists name it as Chalifat in all the world. Ideas are similar.

  • Bashy Quraishy

    Mr. Ghost writer
    Either you have trouble reading English or you are totally brain washed in hating every thing relating to Islam and Muslims. But thanks that you think that I have proven your point. What a sensational honour for me that a person who is so coward that he/she uses a pseudo name to spread his anti-Islam non-sense is appreciating my information. WOW!
    Joking to the side, let me repeat in easy English for you to understand. I gave references to two surveys, which were conducted by American institutions and not Muslims. One survey found out that 53% Americans were mentally ill. So blame those who did the survey and not the Muslims.
    By the way, Muslims are not the only ones who hate USA foreign policies but Latin Americans, Asians and African do too. Since you are stuck in the backwaters of the civilized world, may be the news have not reached you.
    Try to read more and be better informed. It will suit you.
    Kind regards
    Bashy

    • Ghostwriter

      Mr. Quraishy,
      Still stuck on the "Blame America First" meme are you? It's typical for much of the Muslim world to blame all of their problems on the United States instead of looking at problems you caused by YOURSELVES. Self-criticism really isn't big among Muslims,isn't it? For years,Americans have watched on their television screens and read in newspapers have seen atrocious acts like the Munich Olympics massacre,the hijacking of airplanes by Muslim terrorist groups,the murder of Leon Klinghoffer during the "Achille Lauro" hijacking,etc. Where were you and other Muslims like you,huh? Too busy dancing in the streets celebrating American deaths to consider how we feel?

      Never once have we seen ANY Muslim leader condemn any act of terrorism against Americans. But,your posts reveal that you don't really want to do that. You just want to blame the U.S. for all your troubles,do you? Is it any wonder that there is a dislike among many Americans for Islam? Maybe that's too much for you to do. That would require you to use your brain and unfortunately,that's frowned upon in Islamic circles. Better to blame the United States for all of the problems the Islamic world faces than actually think of solutions for those problems.
      Most Americans wouldn't have a problem with Islam if they would live in peace with others but seeing as in places like Nigeria,Egypt,and Sudan,where they're persecuting Christians for practicing a religion other than Islam,I doubt that'll be happening anytime soon. Why don't you speak out against that,Mr. Quraishy instead of bashing the United States,which you and your fellow Muslims do on a regular basis. I hope one day you'll learn about that,but I doubt it highly.
      Signed,
      Ghostwriter

  • koran kid

    So Rick, you cool dude, send us your sister Katie Perry! But make sure she lands in Istanbul, not Diyarbakir or Kabul. And tell her to focus on women's rights, especially the right to sleep with another man and take all clothes off bar her knickers on stage. Once she's cleaned out Istanbul, we can move her on to tackle Kurdish taboos in Diyarbakir. She can send Russell on to Kabul, to tell a few of his seedy jokes and pave the way to womens right to sexual self determination there, as well. All her Daddy Rick does is take us back to secular authoritarianism, and that's cover for elitist protectionism. Presumably Rick is feeling the heat closer to home, like in his social conscience? The Texans have imported an ingenious Turkish card based social security system for the poor that actually works, so no revolutions needed here except in the right field of womens rights, and from what I hear Turkish businessmen are knocking the socks off their Americans counterparts in Iraq and Dallas! When will you guys get it? You are just being barged off the ball, that's all. And now that Barry has left your contractors high and dry in Iraq, their only hope is a Turkish proxy. Find a President who can ball more than just the bridesmaids in Texas. Is that sexist enough for you? If you don't do your Gladio research, I'll set mrbean onto you.

  • PETER

    When enough time passes and arguments fly bye and the spin doctors twist history into unrecognizable factoids with some important ones left out and a few false ones put in their place we will give up our place in history/future out of frustration.

  • Ghostwriter

    Still more anti-Americanism,I see. You prove my point every single time,Bashy. Anti-Americanism for Muslims is like breathing. It comes naturally.