Government Health Care Kills More Brits Than Guns Kill Americans


In 2011, 8,583 Americans were killed with firearms. Meanwhile in the UK, the National Health Service is killing 1,000 people a month or 12,000 a year.

We’re not talking natural or inevitable deaths, but preventable deaths that were caused by an overburdened and poorly managed health care system.

The study found that something went wrong with the care of 13 per cent of the patients who died in hospitals. An error only led to a death in 5.2 per cent of these cases, which was the equivalent to nearly 12,000 preventable deaths in hospitals in England every year.

13 percent and 5 percent of deaths are far higher numbers than anything you will find among gun owners. And here’s what that looks like.

The Office for National Statistics figures also showed that 43 people who starved to death, 287 people were recorded by doctors as being malnourished when they died in hospitals;

there were 558 cases where doctors recorded that a patient had died in a state of severe dehydration in hospitals

21,696 hospital patients and 1,100 care home residents were suffering from the blood poisoning when they died.

In July, an inquest heard that a young man who died of dehydration at a leading hospital rang 999 for police because he was so thirsty.

And some of this is actually Murder for Pay

Figures disclosed to a newspaper shows that in some cases, hospitals have been set targets that between a third and two thirds of all the deaths should be on the LCP pathway.

It was estimated that at least £30 miillion in extra money from taxpayers had been handed to hospitals over the last three years to achieve the goals

LCP, which involves patients being sedated and most being denied nutrition and fluids by tube, is thought to be used in more than 100,000 cases a year.

Aintree University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust revealed through a Freedom of Information request that in the financial year ending in March, the percentage of patients who died on the pathway was “43% against a target of 35%”. Over the year it received £308,000 for achieving “goals involving the Liverpool Care Pathway”.

Perhaps instead of calling for gun control, we should be calling for gov health control before this nightmare comes here.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    If the young man who dialed 999 due to thirst had been a muslim, can you imagine the rioting and chaos that would have resulted?

    I don't want that level of care in the US, and for some reason our president does. Why won't the media look into that?

    • Gabrielle

      I am sorry but it doesn't matter what you want President Obama, senate democrats, and Chief Justice Roberts have decided that you will get what they want. Does anyone remember a time when parents worked hard to make sure that their children inherited a better counrty then they did? What happened?

      • rebecca

        what happened? People liked being slaves by thinking they were getting free stuff from governments, when in reality, the government has no money except the money they borrow, print, or steal from taxpayers. People like being irresponsible and sitting on their butts. True freedom and independence comes from everyone helping each other. Cuba has a "democracy" you want to live there? The US is not and never ever was a democracy, it WAS a constitutional republic. INDIVIDUAL Rights, God given. Democracy is ruled by the mob or majority. the 51% get what they want while the 49% get burned. That doesn't happen in a free republic. Washington DC is not part of the constitutional USA. That was written for the 50 states of the union of which DC is not part of. They are part of the CONSTITUTION that is from Puerto Rico. The federal zone which is listed in OUR constitution gives the FEDS jurisdiction over ONLY 15 square miles of DC. Does anyone ever read it? The ONLY way they can get jurisdiction over a state is that the STATE allows it. The fed gives money (our money) to give the states including schools etc… which then allows them to mandate whatever they want. Very easy to verify, look it up and READ the constitution for the USA. That is why residents of the USA do not have to pay income tax, only those of the US (thats the feds in Washington DC) and its territories…. virgin islands, puerto rico etc… When you fill out your forms from your employer, you state you are a US citizen which gives the feds jurisdiction over you. Why do you think there are US citizens and USA citizens? There is a HUGE difference. You are basically an employee of the US fed and they do not follow, never have, the USA constitution. When fed courts rule something like obamacare is constitutional they are not lying…. it is constitutional because its NOT the USA constitution they are referring to….they won't tell the "masses" that though. Joke is on us. No one bothered , tor the past 100 years (since the fed reserve act 1913) to demand the feds act in accordance to their limited jurisdiction… everyone fell asleep and now we have headed to total socialism then into communism which is THEIR GOAL…. that is not a secret. nor a conspiracy, it is written by the "elite" world wide in all their writings…. but they know how to distract… cool phones, video games, etc…. night night……..no matter what side you vote for, left or right or middle…. they are all playing the same game… Why is it that no regular person can even get into the debates for President? Used to be ANYONE can be president 35 and over etc… now, you have to be one of them to even have a chance. The vote means nothing, never has for over 60 years…. both sides are just an illusion to keep people divided among themselves so they do not see what is really going on. In all their writings, the LAST step before going into total communism, is to DISARM the people…. its being attempted now and if not successful you will see more and more mass shootings until people BEG to be disarmed and put themselves into total slavery as has been the case throughout history. THe media will not tell you, they are owned by 6 major companies ALL in lock step with the same agenda. How is it they all use the same talking points over and over? and yes, they also totally control the opposition, they infiltrate it then run it. Thats why nothing ever comes from opposition. Now you know what happened. We have no one to blame but ourselves, most won't listen or care.

    • LorraineD

      I'm afraid that is what the president wants, unfortunately. By now, the writing should be on the wall for all, but for some reason, so many don't get it.

  • Mary Sue

    Canada's health care system literally does not care about you once you turn 80.

    • JacksonPearson

      The future outlook for Obama's "Death Panels" here in the U.S. isn't exactly exciting either

  • rightwingcanadian

    as one of the few Canadians opposed to universal healthcare and gun control I can tell you socialized medicine is a big fat cash cow,its inefficiency leaves you waiting for hours in the emergency room also it drives up your taxes income and retail, as for gun control at least we scrapped our gun registry.

  • JacksonPearson

    LMAO. Good pic choice Daniel.
    Nurse Rached, from "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" is appropriate for the article.

  • FPF

    "Deathpool Care Pathway" will be more accurate. Russia and China had proved what totalitarian socialist regions can do to preserve resources (i.e. by killing people) and West "elites" believe they can do it better (with some flowery names)?

  • RedWhiteAndJew

    Gibbering leftists will assert that guns are designed to kill people, and as evidence, cite incidents where people use guns to do exactly that.

    QED, right?

    What is socialist medicine designed to do, then?

  • http://www.larryfarlow.com Larry

    Piers Morgan, call your office.

  • NHS Worker

    This whole Article is a pile of Bull

  • Ld Elon

    Doesn't state whether or not most of these people were already suffering from these illnesses, so id like the whole story first, even though most of us already know how the situation is in thee NHS, and the reason, privatization, greedy drs, getting more money. simples

  • Ld Elon

    Btw why focus thee attention on brits, american health system is a lot worse lol, :P

  • Tony

    Would you like to link to "any" survey in the US concerning deaths attributable to human error. If there isn't one then you cannot assume your system is any better. It certainly isn't cheaper.

    Oh , and that's alright then you have a justification to keep killing each other with guns.

  • abinico

    12,000 a year – ha, ha, ha, – you guys are doing great. In the U.S. the medical industry kills 200,000 yearly. For example. see: http://www.whale.to/a/dean.html – this article mentions over 700,000 deaths – I think it's a bit extreme and most consensus is about 200,000.

  • http://www.magnifiedview.com Yoda

    Timely and informative – thank you.

    Socialized medicine is great – as long as you don't get sick.THe illusion of free stuff has enormous appeal to the new demographics in America.

    "Obama's Annihilation Of America's Middle Class Lifestyle." http://www.magnifiedview.com

  • EckM

    Some one previously said that health care was killing more people in Britain than guns in USA.
    OK so lets get this straight. The article said Britain , it also said england
    BUT even a Yank must know that england is is separate country and its results and failures are totally different from the UK as a whole. Thus the comparisons must be made consistantly throughout the piece.

    The stats for USA are as follows.
    For each person killed
    1 – by a gun in USA ( and that includes a small portion of accidental killings )
    1.5 – are murdered by other means ( knives bats tossed from buildings or under trucks and trains )
    18 – die due to medicinal purposes ( accidental drug use or Hard drug overdose or overusage )
    BUT
    - 48 actually die due to doctor's malpractice .

    Doctors kill nearly 50 people for every gun shot victim.

    SO england is not alone which would seem to say KEEP YOUR GUNS

  • Garrick

    Why not compare US health care deaths? Our private, for-profit, "best heath care system in the world" kills 100,000 people a year. And of the people who are injured and survive, the truth about their injury is denied by any doctor who recognizes the medical malpractice. The victim's medical records are lost, they have to suffer without treatment, lose their jobs, medical insurance, savings and homes while unable to get help and go back to work.

  • http://www.healthcaresalaryworld.com/what-is-veterinarian-salary/ veterinarian salary

    i just don't really make it a difference..
    "In 2011, 8,583 Americans were killed with firearms. Meanwhile in the UK, the National Health Service is killing 1,000 people a month or 12,000 a year."

    - really true?