Like Allah, Islamic Revolutions Devour Their Own Children

Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is a New York writer focusing on radical Islam. He is completing a book on the international challenges America faces in the 21st century.


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The struggle over Syria is escalating and may well explode in a regional Sunni-Shiite civil war. Their only hope of averting this is another round of NATO intervention which exposes once again just how dependent the Muslim Brotherhood is on its Western enablers who have had to help it take power politically and militarily. But while the West plays Germany to the Brotherhood’s Bolsheviks, whether the Brotherhood’s Islamic Revolution will be able to take hold now depends less on its ability to manipulate a gullible leftist media and political establishment in the Eurosphere and more on being able to control the violence inherent in its own ideology.

The Muslim Brotherhood has two choices: it can either try to control the violence or direct it. Like the Saudis, it is likely to make the second choice. The Brotherhood is a terrorist group and organizing attacks through proxies is second nature to it. Iran was never able to let go of its terrorist habits, even when it would have been in its own best interests to stop. The Brotherhood isn’t likely to be able to stop either. Its leaders likely imagine that the Sinai violence will allow them to play a triple game, seizing the Sinai, suppressing the opposition and keeping the Jihadi gangs pointed in Israel’s direction.

But like the Saudis, they are wrong. The Saudis have redirected the Islamists who might otherwise be giving them the boot with double handfuls of money and foreign enemies. But all that means is that the Islamists have grown more dangerous and more experienced. Sooner or later the monarchies will fall, whether it’s to Al-Qaeda or the Muslim Brotherhood is a minor detail. And the Brotherhood in its time will fall the same way.

Anyone can call himself an Islamic teacher and begin recording tapes calling for true Islam and then upload them to the internet. Anyone can dig up revolutionary texts from the last hundred years, rewrite them a little and lay out the principles for a truly Islamic form of government. And anyone can assure Western reporters and politicians that, despite all the bombings, their Jihadist gang is filled with moderates who are the only hope of keeping the true extremists at bay.

Another, less well-known quote from Danton’s Death comes from Robespierre, loosely adapted from his own words. “The weapon of the Republic of terror, the power of the Republic is virtue – because without virtue, terror is unwholesome and without terror, virtue is powerless.” This cycle of virtue and terror is an endless escalation, with virtue feeding terror and terror feeding virtue.

Revolutions like Allah devour their own children, and this one has only begun gorging at the buffet.

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  • oldtimer

    And some out there want us to believe that this is a religion of peace and love????? Leviticus 18:21 "Thou shall not let any of thy seed (children) pass through the fire of Molech(false god, idol…allah?)
    And some Christian(?) preachers say that we have alot in common and should unite?

    • oldtimer

      Also Lev.20:3 "I will set my face against that man and I will cut him off from his people: for by giving his children to Molech, he has defiled my sancturary and my holy name."

    • ahmadnb

      FYI: Christian Arabs and Moroccan Jews also worship "ALLAH". Why don't you go ahead and tell them that they, too, worship a "false god"??? Jackass…

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        You silly moderate muslim you.

        allah does not have the same characteristics as the Almighty, nor the same demands for followers.

        How does a muslim that pretends sharia isn't mandatory, and that the koran isn't to be taken literally pretend to know about anything?

        • ahmadnb

          Shut up, Roger Russell…it seems you haven't had your a$$ kicked enough yet. Want some more? My foot hurts from kicking you again and again. Go back to your stinking pen and play with the rest of the pigs there.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            My, the brave delusional muslim is still more mouth than brain.

            You have only showed that pretended bangladeshi muslims have a short fuse as well as the other activist muslims around the world.

          • ahmadnb

            Hey…I only debate with people interested in serious discussion of issues. Not with mental freaks, druggies and Jerry Springer types. Get a clue.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No, you don't. Here you don't debate you just keep repeating really lame lines and propaganda.

            Get a clue.

          • ahmadnb

            Your opinion is profound and insightful…to an amoeba. Do you know what an amoeba is?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes, something that falls for the lies you tell.

          • ahmadnb

            You're the liar and idiot here, not me. You're the one who's too afraid to look in the mirror…scared of what you'll see or what will happen to the mirror when you do? That must be it…7 more years of bad luck could be just waiting for you around the corner. Is that what happened the last time you looked in a mirror? I guess you must have grown uglier with time.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You say sharia is a choice, and that the koran doesn't need to be taken literally.

            You are the liar, and would be killed for it if you spoke that during the haj.

          • ahmadnb

            Listen, stupid, I don't need Mr. Stupid Roger Russell teaching me about MY religion when he obviously knows little to nothing about HIS. Get the grit out of thine own eye before plucking it out of thy neighbor's…now I wonder who said that???

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Then why not just be honest about your religion then?

            That whole surah 9 mandate screams so loud your lies are a lost whisper in the wind. Facts, they speak for themselves.

          • ahmadnb

            Why don't you learn how to be honest about anything, especially yourself? Do you really hate yourself so much that you have to project it out on “the other”???

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why don't you learn to be honest about your forced lifestyle hiding behind the excuse of religion?

          • ahmadnb

            Take your pride and shove it up where the sun don't shine, jackass…refer to my previous comment. The Kingdom of God is NOT yours for the taking any more than it's mine.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            My my, the muslim temper flares.

            You got offended because I challenged you to actually tell the truth about your forced style of life. How telling.

            And you trash around trying to distract from that simple reality. Your sharia is so harsh, so punative and so entrapping into the 8th century brutality that you have to lie to cover that up.

          • ahmadnb

            The usual patter from a brain-dead white trash pseudo-Christian……

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            The usual patter from a brain dead inbred pseudo-muslim.

          • ahmadnb

            How would you know? I built up my life. You failed in yours.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Says the muslim troll who pretends that sharia is an option? Sounds like a failure to me.

          • ahmadnb

            Let's see, moi: Got 2 BS degrees in engineering from US colleges, moved away from liberalism, and have over a decade of IT experience, and fully employed.You? Failed author and failed husband. No word on educational achievements or anything else…a blank slate just like Obama. What are you hiding there?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            All that and you are still dense and relying on deceptions.

            And if you lie about islam, you must lie about everything. Do you work at mcdonalds?

          • ahmadnb

            Listen, kid…forget it all. You and I will both die someday and Islam and Christianity will go on existing. And there's not a damn thing that you can do about it.I've got better things to do with my life than to expose the “fallacies” of the Christian religion…I know what they are and don't need to prove anything to anyone, nor am I interested in persecuting anyone for his/her religious beliefs. My advice to you is: Get a life. Plain and simple. If you don't have one, make up one for yourself and let it all go. You're fighting a lost cause, and even those who backed you up initially on this forum are embarrassed by your obvious gaffes. I haven't heard back from them for days since I chased them off.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You can't list the fallacies of the Christian religion, and you want to distract since you know I'll list those of the forced islamic system.

            You are the one that keeps coming back to try smearing and distracting from the reality that sharia is forcing on the world.

            And those people you 'ran off'? They are still here laughing at you. You simply aren't worth their attention, besides they know that you are a waste of time. Regardless of any wisdom they waste on you, you will go blithely on your way and ignore it.

            Check your comment thumbs down, there are people voting you down far more than I could.

          • ahmadnb

            OK, here we go:You worship a man (Jesus). Just like the Buddhists. So who's the “real God” here? Jesus or Gautama?You believe God is “Triune”, even though the Old Testament makes no mention of this. I happen to agree with the OT's view of God.You make war on other religions. I don't.You defaced the Qur'an. I would never deface the Bible…I would be scared to death of doing such a thing.You don't believe in divorce. Yet you got divorced.You call others who disagree with you liars. But you lie, too.If you are a true representative of the Christian religion, I want none of it.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You still pretend to understand my point while twisting it. You say I'm attacking your religion while denying it's violent and barbaric. But it's the barbarism and violence in it that I attack.

            You don't think those two can be separated evidently, from the false argument you use.

            On the Godhead, you don't understand Christianity enough to comment on it logically. The Bible is clear from the teachings of Christ He always deferred to His Father and never demanded we worship Him. He said if we knew Him, we knew the Father. So, how do you divide the two? Hmmm?

            You don't know if I'm divorced, you simply coordinate with other muslim friendly trolls and run with their comments. But you as a muslim al taqiyya kind of guy that you are, waiting another few years before you can marry off your daughter want to insult me while pretending I'm in the gutter. How muslim of you.

            So, are all iranian friendly muslims cranky with Syria collapsing?

          • ahmadnb

            OK, Prof. Roger Russell…Religions aren't any more violent than guns are. People can be violent. Just as Muslims can be violent, Christians can also be violent. The same can be said of Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, etc…And if all of Islam can be summed up by a couple of Prof. Roger Russell's cheery-picked verses from Sura 9, then there would have been NO non-Muslims left alive between Morocco and western India. When Omar, the 2nd Caliph of Islam who knew Muhammad personally, captured Jerusalem, he and his soldiers harmed nobody in the city. He even refused to pray in a church because he didn't want anyone to turn it into a mosque later. And lest we forget, Jews had been banned from living there by CHRISTIAN Byzantines. Omar personally lifted that ban, and Jews were not only allowed to live in the city but build Synagogues in the area once more.I know you got divorced…you hide everything that there is to know about yourself, yet pretend to know everything about everyone else. You accuse others of being liars, yet you lie freely right and left. You pretend to know history from 1400 years ago, yet you can't even get current affairs straight. When you get caught in a lie or a mistake with clear proofs, or are unable to back up your assertions, then rather than stand corrected, you double down and do a CYA. You pretend to be a “good Christian” when you're anything but.I didn't twist your point around…you just got caught for the umpteenth time.If you want to fight Muslims, why didn't you join up with the US Army? Hmmm…maybe you were not mentally qualified to join up, or were dishonorably discharged? Or maybe you wet yourself and/or soiled yourself during training? Hee-hee…

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You still ignore the surah 9 mandate and the activists who realize it's a demand for them, and who follow it.

            All that gibberish is just that. The Blue mosque was a captured church, so your thinking on how they respected churches is proven a lie.

            So many lies, so often. You really are muslim, aren' t you?

          • ahmadnb

            OK…time to raise my virtual IQ again. I'm done talking in Retarded. The sandbox is all yours to play in…please don't soil yourself while doing so.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            All that hate and anger, it reflects perfectly on your religion.

            All the barbarism and darkness of islam is a good fit for a mentality like yours.

          • ahmadnb

            You are completely blind to the hatred and anger that you have against Muslims, Islam and Muhammad. Will you deny this?Tell me, honestly, if there is any hatred in your heart at all.Tell me, honestly, that you have absolutely no pride in your heart.Before you accuse me of having “hate” and “anger”, look within yourself first.Before getting the grit out of thy neighbor's eye, take the grit out of thine own eye first. I wonder who said that??

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Let me check with Daniel Pearl and get back to you on that sparky.

            Oh, it may take a while since muslim militants slaughtered him.

          • ahmadnb

            Of course you need to check with a guy who's been dead for years. Perhaps you can get in touch with Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton…they've been known to communicate with people who have long since died.Or maybe you could answer my questions honestly and directly, which you won't because you can't face the ugly truth about your own rotten soul.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            It did make my point. And you didn't like that. islam is barbarism, it's brutalism, and it's a thtreat. You can lie all you want.

          • ahmadnb

            You're the one who's lying to yourself. And you're wasting your time here. And you're wasting my time too. I have more important things to do…how about you?I'm not trying to stop Christianity…I just don't accept it, plain and simple. You're the one who thinks he can destroy Islam. I got news for you…you can't stop Islam. Both Islam and Christianity will be around long after we're both 6 feet under.Have a nice day. :)

          • Drakken

            Watch out Roger little hadji is about to have a jihad moment! lol

          • ahmadnb

            So, you wanna join in and receive some, too? Tell that to your last cellmate…ahem. Last time I checked, I'm not gay like you.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            So, you want to realize that the propaganda you spew is like a cleanup at the market? No one cares, no one pays attention and even the clean up people have no patience for the fool that did it to begin with.

          • ahmadnb

            Of course you care and pay attention…otherwise you won't be trolling around and yapping at my heels like some rabid dog. SO make my day…prove me wrong, 'cos you can't.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And what do those words mean? Did you just want to insert a comment and that was the best you could do?

      • gray man

        jackass, in Malaysia just within the last few weeks it was declared that Christians cannot use the term allah for God.
        before you open your stupid mouth realize that no, allah and God are not the same.

        • ahmadnb

          Allah and God are one and the same. Allah is simply the abridged form of AL-ILAH which is Arabic for “The God”. And as far as the Malaysian mullahs are concerned, they are as stupid as you are.Again, tell that to the Arab Christians and Moroccan Jews, not to me. Perhaps you know more than they do. You phony junk intellectual…

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No, they are not. They have different wants, conditions for followers and different values.

            You can pretend as a delusional muslim activist all you want. But you're not in the same reality as everyone else. You are the phony junk intellectual.

          • ahmadnb

            Yes, they are. White trash like you need to go back to preschool. You are an army of one, and won't last 5 minutes debating even the greenest of college graduates out there.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No, they are not. allah demands submission and followers end up trapped in sharia style oppression.

            Christians live just the opposite. Our Almighty wants us to 'reason together' and instead of demanding our works has already done the heavy lifting for our salvation.

            The two can't be further apart then the Almighty and that fake oppressive allah.

            You can say it all you want, but the facts indicate your propaganda isn't holding up.

          • ahmadnb

            Oh, sure…tell that to Galileo Galelei. Damn lying uneducated white trash…

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Says the lying uneducated lying muslim propagandist?

            Or is all that being redundant, of course as a muslim activist you lie and use propaganda.

          • ahmadnb

            So what you got there, Roger Russell? An MS in BS? I've got 2 US 4 year engineering degrees. Or did you drop out because you couldn't party and study at the same time??

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And even if that's true you're still not better educated than the Ft Hood shooter.
            And we know how that turned out.

            Don't think you can pretend islam isn't evil and have that not go challenged.

          • ahmadnb

            Islam isn't evil any more than guns are. But you're incredibly stupid. Just a piece of white trash whose books never sell and who hides behind his mommy's skirt..

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You're an incredibly bad liar. That whole surah 9 mandate thing and the way modern islam lives that mandate proves you wrong.

            So, what cleric's skirt do you hide behind?

          • ahmadnb

            Unlike you, I don't hide anything. According to you, all of Islam is defined by a couple of verses in Sura 9…and the rest of the Qur'an be damned. What a scholar you are…NOT!!You have no right to call anyone a liar…you don't know what that word means. According to you, anyone who disagrees with you is a liar. Are you God or something? Roger-hu-akbar!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes, you do.
            Don't your remember pretending that sharia is a choice and that the koran doesn't really need to be taken literally?

            That's hiding the truth of islam, or you could go on haj and scream it aloud without fear of being stoned.

            Why the lies? Are you willing to admit that the truth of your forced style of life is so repulsive lies are the only option to spread it?

          • ahmadnb

            Listen, idiot…you can offer me $1 billion in cash and I still won't leave Islam. You know why? Because, in my heart, Islam is the TRUTH. You got a problem with that???

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes, that's what the activists thought when they hacked off the head of Daniel Pearl too.

            I have a problem with that. When islam acts out in violence and takes out 3,000 civilians in New York that had never set foot in the lands islam pretends are holy to them, then I have a problem with the brutal forced style of life you call sharia.

          • ahmadnb

            So 19 hijackers from the Middle East are representative of ALL Muslims and of Islam?Start up the gas chambers then, Herr Roger Russell…you've got to start frying Muslims en mass just like your fellow Christians did to the Jews of Europe.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Can you show that any of your accused actions were due to the teachings of Christ? Nope.

            I can show that the actions of those muslims was due to what the koran lays out.

            See how that works? You're just a hack. You're out of your league because facts are against you.

            Is this where you lose your temper and start with the personal insults again? It's all you have.

          • ahmadnb

            Lessee…the teachings of Christ mean nothing without the Old Testament in the background. But according to you, the OT means nothing anymore. Very convenient for you, right?Try building a house on swampland…only you would be dumb enough to try to live in it.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Lesseee, as a Christian I can find salvation from the one life of the Messiah. And that Messiah didn't teach what you pretend He did.

            So, that means nothing of what you say can be taken seriously, like that garbage about the koran not being taken literally….

          • ahmadnb

            That's a HUGE fallacy on your part. “Ye shall know them by their works”. What you got there? Zip, zilch, zero. And if you knew for sure that you were going to enter Paradise, then your case has already been settled in the eyes of God and you shouldn't be here.But then of course logic and Roger Russell's line of thinking don't mix.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I got this.

            You pretend sharia is optional and that the koran doesn't need to be taken literally.

            You have nothing but lies. You, you pretend islam isn't evil and barbaric. I'm sure that will be a huge comfort to rape victims being murdered for sharia.

          • ahmadnb

            According to St. Roger Russell, He's never wrong. If you insult or criticize Him, ye shall perish in the fires of His wrath in the form of insults. Even Jesus takes his orders from Him. The Old Testament no longer applies because His Excellency said so. He shall command that the gates of Paradise be opened for Him as He takes His place on the Eternal Throne in God's stead and judge mankind accordingly.All hail His Excellency St. Roger Russell!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You can't address the issues, so you defer and go towards personal attacks. How predictably muslim of you. I just finished drawing a mohammed on the back of a koran, the crayon smeared so badly I'll just burn it and start over. It made mohammed look halfway like a pig and half like a mongrel dog.

          • ahmadnb

            I can, but you're the one who's too full of yourself to engage in meaningful debate. My 3-year old daughter has more common sense than you. I just don't want to keep repeating the obvious over and over.BTW, have fun with the Qur'an. Do what you will with it…I couldn't care less. I'm not going to get into the gutter with you…I would never deface Scripture, whether it's the Qur'an, the Bible, the Geeta, etc. And I don't want to have anything to do with your phony religion…my religion teaches me to respect others and their respective Scriptures. Yours obviously doesn't.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            My my, insults only work when you're the one using them? How gutter of you.

            Let's see, a three year old daughter, so you have about her half raised and ready to marry.

            You silly muslims.

          • ahmadnb

            Hey, you're the one who openly claimed to deface a Qur'an. I never defaced a Bible, nor will I ever…I have more respect for your religion than you have for mine.So who's evil here?Awww…did my insults hurt your feelings? Poor baby…

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Who's evil? I'd say the liar that defends the forced style of life that stones rape victims and marries off child brides.

            I'd even suggest the one who defends the forced style of life that murders Christians around the world, the pretends it's not happening.

            Any other questions?

          • ahmadnb

            Sure…Is the Jewish religion also a “forced lifestyle”? According to the OT, God didn't give the Israelites much of a choice. Either accept Yaweh or perish. They also practiced child marriages…according to Jewish law, a person reaches adulthood upon reaching puberty. Are they evil, too?Besides, show me in the Qur'an where it is permissible to stone ANYBODY.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            So, give me an example of current Jewish forced marriages with children. I can do that now with islam. How young will your daughter be when you marry her of as a sex toy?

          • ahmadnb

            It's true that I know of no forced marriages in the Jewish community. But I do know of one case here in the USA where a 13 y.o. Jewish girl dated a 21 y.o. Jewish man…he was one of my co-workers. And her mom was OK with it.As for my daughters, I don't know if you'll accept my answer or not, but I'll answer anyway. I will not marry my daughters off against their wills. They will marry when they're ready and with their own consent only after having reached the age of 18 solar years.You still haven't answered my question. I will ask it again.Is the Jewish religion also a “forced lifestyle”? According to the OT, God didn't give the Israelites much of a choice. Either accept Yaweh or perish. They also practiced child marriages…according to Jewish law, a person reaches adulthood upon reaching puberty. Are they evil, too?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Ask a Jew, they're more qualified. I know that God doesn'tforce me to serve, it's my choice.And I don't have to lie about sharia being a choice,or about the koran not being something people are killed over if they don't take it literally.

          • ahmadnb

            If I asked a Jew, he/she would give me the same answer that I would regarding Islam.I'm asking you here. If you're qualified to say that Islam is evil based on its founder, history, scriptures and practices, you can do the same for Judaism, as you are neither a Muslim nor a Jew.What's the matter, Roger? Scared to tell the “truth”? Too inconvenient a question for you? No surprise there…

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I've been telling the turth, too sacred to admit it? Coward.

          • ahmadnb

            If I'm a coward, what are you? Full of bluster, but nothing more than a dog that barks a lot and does nothing else. And whose words have no more meaning nor intelligence than that of a barking dog.Why don't you answer my question? Let me ask it again:If you're qualified to say that Islam is evil based on its founder, history, scriptures and practices, you can do the same for Judaism, as you are neither a Muslim nor a Jew. Now tell everyone here: Is Judaism an evil religion? After all, it was forced on the ancient Israelites since the time of Moses…they were not given a choice in the matter. Either worship YAWEH or perish. And besides, they were also ordered by YAWEH to wipe out their enemies down to the last man, woman, child and even their animals…nothing was to be spared. Muslims were never ordered to go that far in the Qur'an…look up the Book of Deuteronomy and see for yourself what it has to say about waging wars against the enemies of God and Israel..

          • Drakken

            Funny liitle sand apes like you shouldn't pizz off us infidels.

          • ahmadnb

            What you gonna do about it, boy? Shoot up a mosque? Set it on fire? Just so that you can have some more prison romance, huh? Run out of black churches and crosses to burn, I see. Got nothing better to do with your sad, sorry life…tsk, tsk.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            We mock you.
            We continue on our way in the modern world and leave you to the 80% illiteracy rate of islam and the 8th century forced style of life.

          • ahmadnb

            By mocking me, you spit on Jesus Christ and vindicate me for what I know about losers like you. So go ahead…mock me all you want, you half-literate white trash. You'll never get what you want…the satisfaction that you'll get only when you bend over to pick up the soap for your hunky boyfriend.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            So, you want the nice Christians to shut up and let islam take over the world?
            So, you want us to sit by silently and not call evil what it is?

            Good luck with that.

          • ahmadnb

            The only way Islam will take over the world is when EVERY person accepts Islam freely, and God wills it to be so.But it looks like your faith in God is pathetically weak…you possess neither the faith required nor a minimum threshold of intelligence to be able to tell good from evil.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You lie so incredibly bad it's laughable. Tell that free conversion to the starved Catholics in Northern Sudan, and the Christians being slaughtered around the world.

            sharia is struggling to force itself on every person alive within it's grasp. it's simply what mohammed wanted.

            Why lie about it? Christians don't lie about their 'Great commission'.

          • ahmadnb

            Northern Sudan???Are you dyslexic too? Hmm…just like the US Embassy in Tehran was seized in 1977.Oh, yes…last time I checked the Croats and Serbs hate each other's guts. As do protestants and catholics in N. Ireland. And as do Russians and Ukranians. And Poles and Russians. And these are all Christians.No, “true Christians” don't lie…they know better, as do I. But you're definitely NOT a “true Christian”. You're a 2-bit, half educated phony and a hypocrite masquerading around as a “true Christian” and who actually believes he's one..

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger
          • ahmadnb

            Now if there ever was proof that he great and wise Dr. Roger Russell was a raving mad, half literate lunatic white trash, this is it.He obviously can't read…this is old news and has been around since the 1980s. And you just discovered it? HAHAHAHA!!!Here's your sentence:”Tell that free conversion to the starved Catholics in Northern Sudan”And here's the 1st sentence in the link you sent:”The government of (north) Sudan is waging terrible war in South Kordofan. Rebels there aspire to independence like their neighbors in South Sudan, the world’s newest country. Khartoum doesn’t intend to make the same mistake twice.”North Sudan…or South??? HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            It is still happening and you failed to show it isn't.

            Catholics in north Sudan are being systematically starved.

            And it's all because of that 'optional' sharia.
            That's islam, that's why you're a failure.

          • ahmadnb

            Another CYA from our wise and ever-knowing Dr. Roger Russell. READ THE DAMNED ARTICLE, IDIOT! It said NOTHING about NORTH SUDAN. There is NO Catholic community in the north like there are in the south of that country.Why don't you admit your mistakes? You are so full of yourself. Get out of here, troll…

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I did, a recent one from 2/12 that I linked to. It was about the way muslims in sudan are committing human rights abuses in the name of islam.

            Your lies ring shallow.

          • ahmadnb

            I told the truth and you know it. You just keep repeating your lies over and over again and hope that it sticks. Well, not around here.I never said that the conflict there was over, as you would like to claim. Show me where I did, if you're truthful!Anyone with a brain who's been following the conflicts in Sudan knows that they started at around 1983 in its southern and western regions. The southern region is inhabited by black Christians and animists and even a few Muslims. The western region, known as Darfur, is inhabited by mostly black Muslims. The above-mentioned regions all bore the brunt of Khartoum's racist dictatorship. Islam was only an excuse…at the heart of all the conflicts was Arab supremacism, just as the Balkan conflicts in the 1990s was driven in large part by Serbian imperialism, and NOT by religion.Northern Sudan happens to be the homeland of Khartoum's ruling elite, who consist of Arab Muslims entirely.The article in question put the blame for the conflict entirely on the Arab/Muslim north, which was accurate.Now let's revisit your original quote, shall we?”Tell that free conversion to the starved Catholics in Northern Sudan, and the Christians being slaughtered around the world.”Either you're a saint or Joe Biden's metrosexual half. The latter appears to be true from where I stand.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You admit that the story is accurate then. And you should also realize there is a Catholic minority in northern Sudan being starved into submission.

            Either you're a bad liar or badly delusional, both from where I stand.

            And islam is still the barbaric forced evil.

          • ahmadnb

            That was not even in the article at all. Bring me an article that verifies your claim here and I will stand corrected.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You started off by lying and saying it was old news, a 2/12 article. You keep changing the lies and twisting it to defend the evil forced style of life.

            How sharia of you.

          • ahmadnb

            In case you don't recall, it was YOU who brought up the persecution of Catholics in NORTHERN Sudan along with the link which makes no mention of persecution of Christians in NORTHER Sudan. I RESPONDED by saying that what's happening in Sudan with the persecution of Christians there is old news…and it is. It has been going on for decades and hasn't stopped. So how am I lying here? Please point out whatever I've said here that are lies.You lied at least twice here. Are you so stupid that you're blind to your own lies?? Is that what Jesus teaches you to do?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Old news still going on is what westerners call 'current' news.

          • ahmadnb

            And you made my point here and were unable to make a case for yours…so you attempted to distract people from that. Roger “Obama” Russell…And the statement you made is an insult to civilized and informed westerners. Do you realize that? You're basically saying here that the average westerner is as dumb, dim and stupid as you are. The truth is that you have a HUGE inferiority complex and are threatened by the notion that ANYONE out there is more informed and more intelligent than you are. Such people, in your view, simply don't exist. And I know from having lived in the USA for over 21 years in several states that you are ABSOLUTELY WRONG about this. The statement you made here can hold true for only the most backward country folks out there who live in the middle of nowhere in trailer parks out in the woods who don't have access to TVs, newspapers or the Internet, or inner-city folks who couldn't care less about anything that doesn't happen within a 5-block radius. And just because you may fall into one of these categories doesn't mean that ALL westerners fall into either category like you do.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I made my case, you just deny it because it goes against your muslim friendly talking points.

          • ahmadnb

            Oh, really? Why don't you quote JUST ONE “Muslim-friendly” talking point from my previous post here? I'll even repeat it below to help you. And what was your case to begin with, anyway? You're like Don Quixote chasing after evil windmills.In my view, the biggest threat to Islam are extremist Muslims who commit acts of terrorism in its name, NOT westerners. And the biggest threat to Western Civilization are morons and uneducated, ignorant fools like you who wish to drag it down the gutter to your diminished mental level.”And the statement you made is an insult to civilized and informed westerners. Do you realize that? You're basically saying here that the average westerner is as dumb, dim and stupid as you are. The truth is that you have a HUGE inferiority complex and are threatened by the notion that ANYONE out there is more informed and more intelligent than you are. Such people, in your view, simply don't exist. And I know from having lived in the USA for over 21 years in several states that you are ABSOLUTELY WRONG about this. The statement you made here can hold true for only the most backward country folks out there who live in the middle of nowhere in trailer parks out in the woods who don't have access to TVs, newspapers or the Internet, or inner-city folks who couldn't care less about anything that doesn&# 39;t happen within a 5-block radius. And just because you may fall into one of these categories doesn't mean that ALL westerners fall into either category like you do.”

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still unable to deal with what I really do say? And I don't care what threat is bad for islam, they're barbaric animals with a forced system of sharia (which you deny is forced). I'm more worried about the threat that islam is to my western values and lifestyle. And it's been a threat since the 8th century, and ongoing battle of wills.

            And there are enough victory mosques to prove that islam does want to win this at my peril, and the peril of everyone who wont' bow to the literal koran.

            That's your most insidious lie.

          • ahmadnb

            What you really do say is a lot of ignorant, bigoted trash based on deliberate misinformation and misinterpretations…and that's something that you will NEVER see and I don't expect you to. I don't have to deal with any of it.You haven't answered my question, so I'll ask it again. Answer it directly, if you're truthful:” Why don't you quote JUST ONE “Muslim-friendly” talking point from my previous post here?”

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still pretending that there is anything about islam worth defending?

            Still pretending that you don't advocate for that forced system of life?

            Still pretending that you can be honest in your debate?

            How silly of you.

          • ahmadnb

            I don't need to pretend anything. I have no reason to.It's YOU who think people on this forum are too dumb to understand, by your own admission. Just who, or what, the hell do you think you are, anyway? Some sort of modern-day Crusader? Now THAT's funny…Islam is not a forced lifestyle. I follow it on my own free will and refuse to leave it. And Islam will survive your puny attempts to bring “awareness” about it to the “unwashed” folks who read this forum. We have survived far greater tribulations. You're nothing more than the equivalent of a grain of sand on the road.Chew over that, Don Quixote…

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Islam is a forced lifestyle, in spite of your lies denying it. Honor killings are not just suggestions to live sharia, and stonings for apostates are not reminders to take the koran literally.

            You just can't put enough lipstick on that pig to make islam seem peaceful.

          • ahmadnb

            Rather than spout out your childish, immature, dishonest talking points, why don't you SHOW verses in the Qur'an that support the stoning of adulterers, honor killings, suicide bombings and being made to live a “forced lifestyle”??? That's your claim here. Show me LITERAL verses to these effects…go on, I challenge you. Go ahead, if you're really honest and informed!!!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why don't you show a verse in the koran that says the Daniel Pearl beheading was wrong?

          • ahmadnb

            OK, I will. Unlike you who STILL refuses to answer my questions.2:190 Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.8: 60-61 Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others beside them whom ye know not. Allah knoweth them. Whatsoever ye spend in the way of Allah it will be repaid to you in full, and ye will not be wronged.And if they incline to peace, incline thou also to it, and trust in Allah. Lo! He, even He, is the Hearer, the Knower.60:8 Allah forbiddeth you not those who warred not against you on account of religion and drove you not out from your homes, that ye should show them kindness and deal justly with them. Lo! Allah loveth the just dealers.2:193 And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers.2:256 There is no compulsion in religion. The right direction is henceforth distinct from error. And he who rejecteth false deities and believeth in Allah hath grasped a firm handhold which will never break. Allah is Hearer, Knower.24:54 Say: Obey Allah and obey the messenger. But if ye turn away, then (it is) for him (to do) only that wherewith he hath been charged, and for you (to do) only that wherewith ye have been charged. If ye obey him, ye will go aright. But the messenger hath no other charge than to convey (the message) plainly.18:29 Say: (It is) the truth from the Lord of you (all). Then whosoever will, let him believe, and whosoever will, let him disbelieve. Lo! We have prepared for disbelievers Fire. Its tent encloseth them. If they ask for showers, they will be showered with water like to molten lead which burneth the faces. Calamitous the drink and ill the resting-place!

  • flowerknife_us

    Time will tell who will be the King atop the hill of dead. Posterity will make him a GOD. Destroyer of Evil. Such Irony!

  • Chezwick

    Interesting article…but let's add some context. Yes indeed, the Bolshevick revolution devoured its own children via the purges of Stalin, but far from descending into anarchy and impotence, the end result was a top-down, totalitarian monstrosity that threatened the whole of mankind for the better part of a century.

    As for Islam, certainly there will be in-fighting based upon both doctrinal schism and naked power grabs as national divisions break down and the movement towards a trans-national Caliphate becomes inexorable. But the theology isn't infinitely malleable, as Greenfield suggests. It is a specific and defined political, military, legal, and moral code. That specificity will go a long way in deciding outcomes.

    In other words, there is the very real possibility – even a probability – that the Muslim world WILL unite and threaten the non-Muslim world in a manner we haven't seen in four centuries. This doesn't mean the road to unity will be without the requisite internal conflicts typical of such a far-reaching endeavor. But to count on future divisions that will somehow mitigate the threat as Greenfield is promulgating, this is foolhardy.

    The sh*t is getting ready to hit the fan, folks….this IS the century that will determine the next four or five, just as the 17th century was when the Turks were defeated at the Gates of Vienna. And even if Islam eventually does descend into self-cannibalizing, its ability to wreak epochal havoc….and even capture the world…shouldn't be under-estimated in the leasr.

    • BS77

      Most of the Western countries still refuse to face reality…..Years of PC indoctrination have resulted in
      an inability to see the most obvious danger.

    • flowerknife_us

      The Ottoman Empire became sick as a result of having to rule itself. Islam found the going to tough to keep feeding on the Infidel. As long as Allah allows one human to determine the piousness of another, the hack and stab in the name of Allah will be eternal. As he apparently intended.

      Besides Mohammed himself is reputed to have robbed and pillaged himself. So his followers are not expected to follow in his footsteps???

    • stevefraser

      Very good points…For a longer view, see O. Spengler's "The Decline of the West, vol II".

    • SKIP

      Let's keep in mind that there would in all liklihood there would be no islam if the 4th Crusade had not broken down into fighting among themselves as their purpose was to go to Jerusalem and rid it of islam and then continue down to Saudi Arabia and wipe out islam once and for all. Apparently, the muslims are not the only ones that enjoy killing each other but the Christian propensity for doing so inflicted more than 800 years of islamic darkness on mankind and more yet to come until the 5th Crusades comes around.

      • gray man

        we also would not have islam if the west had helped Ghengis Khan wipe the filth of islam from the earth, the west rejected his pleas for help.
        correction: it wasn't the Christians propensity for fighting among themselves that caused the dark ages, it was the destruction of the Roman empire by islam.
        this was written about in the 1920s by Henri Pirenne.

    • traeh

      Chezwick

      Where did Greenfield say the ideology is infinitely malleable? He does at one point almost seem to say the only thing they agree on is the right to kill those who are insufficiently pure. But that they disagree on what that purity consists of, beyond the right of violence to define it. He says that Islam seeks utopian purity by means of violence, and that, since no actual regime is ever perfectly pure, purges never end, there is always a tendency for new violent revolutions.

      Also, where does Greenfield say that the Islamic world, because of its internecine hostilities, will not succeed in uniting to some degree or will not become an even worse threat to the West than it is currently?

  • Jerry O

    The author states, "By the time Mao and Stalin’s last butchers were shown the door, Communism was no longer a revolutionary idea, it was just a rotting structure that would take several generations to dismantle."

    Communism has not been dismantled nor is it dead, it has just changed hats.

    Please become familiar with Anatoliy Golitsyn and his work. Then everything will become clearer.

    “The Perestroika Deception” http://curezone.com/upload/Members/ChazTheMeatHe/

    “New Lies For Old” http://www.spiritoftruth.org/newlies4old.pdf

    • stevefraser

      Communism is in effect a regression to Feudalism…absolute power, no individual rights, a "king" decides life and death, no market dynamics or private property.

      • stevefraser

        And by whatever name, communism is still very much alive.

  • Drakken

    The West will come to its senses when its back is against the wall, like it always does, islam no matter the shade will show its true colors and and even the most ardent liberal/progressive will notice their very existance is under threat by these savages. The muslims sense weakness and will push even harder for more special rights in the West and threaten us because no one is drawing a line in the sand and saying no more. The European leaders are showing cowerdice in the face of naked muslim aggression and the stirings of nationalism is now coming back and the muslims are not going to know what hits them once that happens. Very soon you will see the more nationalistic nations especially Eastern Europe start their purges of anything muslim and quickly spread west. The Balkans were just an opening act. As far as the muslim brotherhood is concerned they will eat their own and I hope someone here has to the forsight to encourage it. What is bad for the savages is good for us westerners.

    • stevefraser

      I'd give you an eight on the Optimism Scale.

  • polnick

    Sunni and Shiite gang leaders must be treated fairly. Each must be given a slice of turf which is protected by the local police. Saudi Wahhabi`s invaders are creating a new order, talented gang leaders will soon be appointed and given turf. Local police will become border guards, making sure Sunni and Shiite gangs stay within their own boundaries.

  • stevefraser

    Very interesting essay. Much thanks.

  • UCSPanther

    In a similar vein, we have seen Communist revolutions share the same fate. Almost like a script from Animal Farm, we seen them turn on their people, kill off their comrades and then seize absolute power.

    For example, no one talks about the post-revolution period in Nicaragua when the Sandinistas overthrew the corrupt Somoza Dynasty and replaced it with something worse.

  • mburu chege

    how real is the possibility of orthodox jews capturing power in israel and ruling the place using halakha……..??????????

    • traeh

      How real is the possibility of elephants flapping their ears and flying to the moon?

  • SKIP

    Not many things I like better than news articles telling of muslims killing other muslims wholesale.

    • Mburu

      why r you so bloodthirsty mr. skip????????

      your confession is blood-curdling!

      • gray man

        i agree skip – let the filth of islam self destruct

      • Drakken

        Because you blood thirsty savages deserve it.

      • SKIP

        Because if muslims aren't killing each other, they are killing non muslims, which includes ME! Why are muslims so blood thirsty I would ask you? I know islam all too well and have seen it up close and personal for the past 9 years and I believe it should be, and will be, wiped from the face of the planet.

  • the national razor

    Apart from Carter's cowardice and treachery, it is worth remembering that Ayatollah Khomeini was nurtured by the French, and feted to all-commers, from his base outside Paris. And I remember a died in the wool democrat telling me that although what followed the Bolsheviks was bad, it was better than what went before. This must be a staple leftist defence of the indefensible. When it comes to revolution, there's none so naive as the international elite. Back in the good old days of the French version, half of Eton were ideological backers. You'd think they'd learn their lesson. Talk about Turkeys voting for christmas!

  • Alby1

    There once were a chap fro Arabia,
    Who were given to bastard behaviour,
    E slaved an e slortered,
    An raped an cavorted,
    But to billions of ***** he's the saviour.

  • Asher

    Communism and Islam go hand and hand. Communism destroyed millions of people's lives in Europe through genocide, gassing, starving, and executions. What Price Jihad on a society? Hate destroys societies and does not build better lives…Its pretty disgusting that Insanity devours people which affects the lives of their children. How precious are their children, and Why is their allegiance dedicated to a Culture of Death!

  • traeh

    From the essay "Communism and Islam" in International Affairs, Vol. 30, No. 1 (Jan., 1954), pp. 1-12, here is the eminent Bernard Lewis on Islam's inherent totalitarianism:

    I turn now from the accidental to the essential factors, to those deriving from the very nature of Islamic society, tradition, and thought. The first of these is the authoritarianism, perhaps we may even say the totalitarianism, of the Islamic political tradition…Many attempts have been made to show that Islam and democracy are identical — attempts usually based on a misunderstanding of Islam or democracy or both…In point of fact, except for the early caliphate, when the anarchic individualism of tribal Arabia was still effective, the political history of Islam is one of almost unrelieved autocracy…[I]t was authoritarian, often arbitrary, sometimes tyrannical. There are no parliaments or representative assemblies of any kind, no councils or communes, no chambers of nobility or estates, no municipalities in the history of Islam; nothing but the sovereign power, to which the subject owed complete and unwavering obedience as a religious duty imposed by the Holy Law. In the great days of classical Islam this duty was only owed to the lawfully appointed caliph, as God's vicegerent on earth and head of the theocratic community, and then only for as long as he upheld the law; but with the decline of the caliphate and the growth of military dictatorship, Muslim jurists and theologians accommodated their teachings to the changed situation and extended the religious duty of obedience to any effective authority, however impious, however barbarous. For the last thousand years, the political thinking of Islam has been dominated by such maxims as "tyranny is better than anarchy" and "whose power is established, obedience to him is incumbent."
    …Quite obviously, the Ulama of Islam are very different from the Communist Party. Nevertheless, on closer examination, we find certain uncomfortable resemblances. Both groups profess a totalitarian doctrine, with complete and final answers to all questions on heaven and earth; the answers are different in every respect, alike only in their finality and completeness, and in the contrast they offer with the eternal questioning of Western man. Both groups offer to their members and followers the agreeable sensation of belonging to a community of believers, who are always right, as against an outer world of unbelievers, who are always wrong. Both offer an exhilarating feeling of mission, of purpose, of being engaged in a collective adventure to accelerate the historically inevitable victory of the true faith over the infidel evil-doers. The traditional Islamic division of the world into the House of Islam and the House of War, two necessarily opposed groups, of which- the first has the collective obligation of perpetual struggle against the second, also has obvious parallels in the Communist view of world affairs. There again, the content of belief is utterly different, but the aggressive fanaticism of the believer is the same. The humorist who summed up the Communist creed as "There is no God and Karl Marx is his Prophet!" was laying his finger on a real affinity. The call to a Communist Jihad, a Holy War for the faith — a new faith, but against the self-same Western Christian enemy — might well strike a responsive note.