Ron Paul’s Soros Defense Plan


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It was recently observed that Ron Paul was to the left of Obama on national security and the best evidence for that statement can be found when one year ago Ron Paul joined forces with Barney Frank on a proposal to gut national defense via a panel of experts, quite a few of whom were tied to George Soros.

In July 2010, Barney Frank and Ron Paul co-authored a Huffington Post article rolling out their Sustainable Defense Task Force. The Task Force “consisting of experts on military expenditures that span the ideological spectrum” would recommend a trillion dollars in defense cuts. The experts, however, didn’t quite “span the ideological spectrum” — more like float under it.

The panel of experts who would decide how to best gut national defense featured such independent thinkers as William D. Hartung of the New America Foundation. Hartung’s main expertise was appearing in “Hijacking Catastrophe: 9/11, Fear & the Selling of American Empire.”

Then there was Lawrence J. Kolb of the Center for American Progress and Miriam Pemberton of the Institute for Policy Studies. If you want to know what the Center, the Foundation and the Institute all have in common, it’s Hungarian and smells like stale cabbage and the death of nations.

The rather creepy Institute for Policy Studies issued a paper proposing that Obama act as king and rule through executive orders. The New American Foundation is not only backed by Soros but has his son on its leadership council. The Center for American Progress is run by the co-chair of Obama’s transition team and is, for all intents and purposes, the think tank of the White House. All three are Soros funded.

But it doesn’t end there. Also on the panel was Christopher Hellman of the National Priorities Project (NPP). If you are wondering what the NPP is, it’s a think tank whose objective is to “influence national spending priorities.”  And if you’re in the mood for a double, Miriam Pemberton is also on the board of the NPP. The man behind the curtain at NPP? None other than our favorite Hungarian James Bond villain.

Going further down the list there’s Winslow Wheeler of the Center for Defense Information (CDI). The CDI’s goal is to strengthen “national and international security through international cooperation [and] reduced reliance on unilateral military power to resolve conflict.” CDI operates under the aegis of the World Security Institute, which is apparently the least creepy name they could think of. Wheeler is a Counterpunch contributor, a site which even Stalinists think goes a bit too far. CDI gets money from the Open Society Institute (OSI) where the stench of death and stale cabbage never goes away.

Then there’s Charles Knight and Carl Conetta of the Project for Defense Alternatives, which appears to be a subset of the Commonwealth Institute. Of its board of directors, S.M. Miller is also the founder of United for a Fair Economy which enjoys generous support from a certain philanthropic chap who occasionally destroys economies for sport. Another member, Guy Molyneux, has also worked with OSI. A third board member, Richard Healey, was formerly director of the Institute for Policy Studies and is on the advisory board of the Center for Social Inclusion, founded by two OSI veterans.

If you think this can’t get any worse, meet Paul Kawika Martin of Peace Action (PA). You might know PA better by its old name, the “Committee for a SANE Nuclear Policy” or just “SANE,” a Communist front group investigated by none other than Senator Thomas Dodd. PA has the same attitude toward American defense that burglars have toward alarm systems in other people’s homes. They don’t like them very much. And they have a “five year strategic plan” for the job.

Paul Kawika Martin travels around fighting progress on board The Rainbow Warrior and is also involved with Physicians for Social Responsibility. Martin has also collaborated with the National Iranian American Council (NIAC), a front for the Iranian regime. I think you can guess by now who funds Physicians for Social Responsibility.

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  • sasss31

    I urge people to watch this short video clip with Ron Paul answering a question on "why won't he come out on the truth about 9/11". It is astonishing and it makes a rational observer conclude that Ron Paul indeed is a truther. Watch for yourselves: http://youtu.be/3u0tgNUfOL8

    • Daniel

      So, not accepting the 9/11 commission report as an adequate explanation means that he's a "truther"? I guess I'm a "truther" too, then. Only in Amerikkah does doubting your government's honesty and asking for more information get you labeled "insane".

      • NadePaulKuciGravMcKi

        The government would never conspire to deceive the public
        controlled media would never conspire to deceive the public

        • Sandy

          I'm thinking this is tongue-in-cheek sarcastic, no? So why all the thumbs down? Did I miss it? You were speaking literally?

      • coyotepatriota

        Drop the KKK bit. It is as demeaning out of your mouth as it is from Rev. Wright.
        You surely see that Wright started and democrats ran with it with the Republicans as the KKK.
        KKK is fitting coming from the party that wore mamma's sheets and actually owned slaves.
        And sane people don't put their trust in government ever. They just keep their ear to the ground and their guns loaded. 2nd Amendment needs all of our support. The government is not calling you insane. They are ignoring you, all of us. The Founders warned us about not trusting government.

      • WildJew

        Do you believe the 9/11 attacks were an inside government job?

    • Eve

      Wow. Just did some checking and Ron Paul isn't on this "truther" list, but I am amazed at some of the people who are!!! http://www.wanttoknow.info/officialsquestion911co

      • WildJew

        I don't have time right now to go through all of these. At the top of your list is former Senator Max Cleland. He served on the Congressional 911 Commission. He was angry at Bush for stonewalling in not delivering all the PDBs (Presidential Daily Briefings) to the Commission. He believes Bush withheld some of these briefings because they might have indicated Bush officials knew Iraq was not much of a player (if it was a player in the first instance) in the 9/11 attacks. It is legitimate criticism of Bush, if he misled the public. Still, toppling Saddam might have been defensible. Why mislead the public? Also Bush redacted some 28 pages of the 911 report that allegedly implicated the Saudis in the atrocities and support of / close ties to al Qaeda. This is treasonous or at minimum it borders on treason. This has nothing to do with "Truthers" who insist the 9/11 attacks were an inside job. Clearly Cleland is not among them.

    • speedyjerry

      What's wrong with his answer? What do you call a truther?

    • http://www.themadjewess.wordpress.com MAD JEWESS

      The truth about 9/11.
      America got attacked by 19 hijackers.

    • sharpinla

      Excellent! Finally someone rational. :)

  • Juls

    You are slow… http://paul.house.gov/index.php?option=com_conten

    How else are you going to cut 1 trillion from the budget?

    Nice attempt at transfer. :P

    • BewilderedAmerican

      By cutting domestic spending–no more stimulus packages; no tax increases, no out of control printing of money; no more useless funding for the Dept. of Energy, no more government loans to Petrobras(BRAZIL's national oil company), no more gigantic loans to bankrupt companies–a la Solyndra, etd, etc. Its only logical.

  • Daniel

    Well there's your proof ladies and gentlemen, Ron Paul is in cahoots with George Soros. Considering that this is the case, why is Soros still supporting Obama? Perhaps it's because their ideological similarities only go as far as their views on foreign policy.

    Ron Paul is called extreme left by conservatives and extreme right by liberals. There's a reason for this – because both of the parties are actually the extremists. They're all massive statists…which means they support the state more than they support your desire to have individual liberty. Anyone who understands the philosophy of liberty understands that the bigger government is, the less liberty you have.

    It's time to make a choice…support the state, or support liberty. We all know which candidate supports liberty first.

    • davarino

      I dont care what you say, if Paul is associated with Soros then thats enough for me, hes associated with the wrong people.

      • rp2012

        I'm reminded of the game seven degrees of kevin bacon while reading this…amusing. BTW, you are are associated to Soros by 7 degrees or less too….

        • davarino

          ya and to Osama bin Laden, Hitler, and Mao, but you dont see me making concessions for them do you? Your logic is like a black hole, it curls in on itself.

          Good luck with that

    • WildJew

      It's not so much Dr. Paul's views on individual liberty that worries conservatives – though many of Paul's views on liberty are indistinguishable from the far left – it is Paul's views on foreign policy and national security that mostly worries conservatives. Additionally, Paul is a dedicated foe to Israel; a supporter of apocalyptic Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, al Qaeda, etc.

      • KS Patriot

        Yeah, that's why Ron Paul was the ONLY Republican to support Israel back in 1983 when they attacked Iraq's Osiraq reactor complex. A real "foe of Israel," that Ron Paul is…

        And after an article like this, you have the gall to accuse Ron Paul supporters of being "conspiracy theorists?"

    • http://creedmoorer.blogspot.com Der Shygetz

      Ron Paul is the tinfoil hat candidate.

    • sasss31

      Beautifully stated Daniel. I personally hope that Ron Paul wins tomorrow night as that would assure that the media starts to scrutinize his anti-American, anti-Semitic, and pro-Islamic record in the way the other candidates records have been scrutinized. We shall wait and see what happens. :)

  • Thomas Jefferson

    To assert that Paul is a Soro's backed candidate is a lame "last ditch effort" at smearing a man who has devoted his entire career to fighting for the individual rights of all people. People like Soros and the establishment elites are deathly afraid of someone like Ron Paul. They fear him because he would end the corruption and stop the gravy train they have been riding for decades. I assure anyone….Paul is the last guy they want to win the GOP nomination because it would give Americans a real choice for the first time in decades. Lets cut the crap…a choice between Obama or Romney or Newt…is not a choice at all….no matter who wins…nothing will change, they are the same and will continue the same policies. The Fed will continue to print money like toliet paper, the wars will continue and expand, and erosion of civil liberties will continue in the name of enhancing "national security".

    If Americans dont wake up to this sad game and elect Ron Paul..then perhaps we are doomed to fall into the pits of socialism and depotism. Keep in mind that if America falls, freedom in the world disappears.

  • Eve

    I am amazed at how the "Israeli firsters" completely ignore Netanyahu when he says they don't need America.
    Benjamin Netanyahu Prime Minister of Israel agrees with Ron Paul http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_ECgLpwPg4&fe

    Could it be that the neocons just want to keep us in a perpetual state of war ??
    Time to get back to "old" conservatism- my vote stays with Ron Paul.

    • coyotepatriota

      Why would we want to be in a perpetual state of war? Sounds like a worn out liberal talking point. Are we the Beserkers? If Paul gutted our military, shut all foreign bases and massively reduce the number of planes, ships and all other neccessary equipment just how long would be before we are invaded? Would you feel safe with our power to DEFEND ourselves so diminished? Do you know what a neocon is? It means nothing, just another label cranked out by liberals.

      • ManinNH

        The US spends more on Military than the entire rest of the world. How would bringing the troops home and putting them on our borders diminish our capability to defend ourselves? Why do we continue to ignore the fact that the US funds both side of the conflicts in the Mideast. There are lives lost but lots of money being made by the military contractors. How does funding both sides of the conflict benefit the US? It doesn't. It creates hate and resentment aka Blow back. If people would stop subjecting themselves to the main stream media garbage as there only source of information and actually did some research, America would be a lot better off.

      • prototype2118

        How is launching pre-emptive attacks and wars around the globe necessarily "defending" ourselves? Ron Paul is for a strong national defense. Our reckless foreign policy is making us much less safe and instills hate for Americans around the world.

        http://youtu.be/XKfuS6gfxPY

        • sasss31

          I'm sure pulling our troops out of all parts of the world and allowing Islamicists, the Chinese, and Russians to fill the void are all smart "pro-American" objectives in "making us safer". LMFAO.

          The fact that Ron Paul was the only congressperson to vote against funding for malaria vaccinations in Africa which saves millions of lives a year is also wise. Away from the vital humanitarian concerns (as we are a hope and beacon for liberty, freedom, and human rights) imagine the void that this would create in which Islamicists would quickly fill without avoiding an eyeblink. And then, Islamicists would control and run a new terror haven called AFRICA.

          • mmmartin

            Errr, There is not a vaccine for Malaria yet. Close, but not yet. Sorry.

          • sasss31

            *Immunization and other prevention methods. I made a typo. IT SAVES MILLIONS OF LIVES PER YEAR.

      • Paleocon

        Oh my! Coyotepeyote, you are an idiot. As a real conservative, allow me to inform you that the term “neoconservative” was invented by neoconservatives. So, technically, you’re right — although you clearly don’t understand why.

        Neocons are trotsky-ite big government socialists who invaded the Republican party after WWII, ironically adopting the name “neoconservatives,” to distinguish themselves from traditional American conservatives (now known as “paleocons,” to distinguish ourselves from neocons).

        Why “neo-cons”? Their little joke. You see “neo” means “new.” So, neocons are new-conservatives. An oxymoron, you say. Well, duh.

        Neocon philosophy ignores the wisdom of out Founding Fathers, and instead, pilfers the ideals of such “great” thinkers as Hitler, Stalin, and Mao (of course, they don’t dare credit their intellectual forebears by name). Neocons ridicule the contempt of government epitomized by Washington and Jefferson, and instead, glorify Military aggression and domestic police powers, all in the name of “empire” (a word they are hesitant but willing to use to characterize their schemes), ignoring the lessons of history, in pursuit of their utopian dreams (utopia? distopia? tomayto/tomahto).

        So, if you can extract your cranium from Mucus Levin’s posterior long enough to read, I recommend you start here:

        http://www.vdare.com/articles/whats-in-a-name-the-curiou...

        Further reading:

        http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig2/neo-cons-arch.html

    • BewilderedAmerican

      Apparently, Ron Paul has no use for America, either. His idea of defending America is to let NGO's with no accountability to Congress or to American citizens take care of the problem. Translated, that means he will deliver America up to the Muslim Brotherhood, and you will see the Islamic flag flying over the White House, in a few years. Trust me, YOU don't want to live under Sharia law. Besides, Ron Paul will run as an independent, and siphon votes away from the Republican candidate; giving the election to Obama.

      • sasss31

        Another elegant and precise post. The fact is that Ron Paul is not only anti-American and threatens American national security, but he also threatens the security of world peace and of humanity itself. In fact, he sees it perfectly acceptable for Islamic madmen occupying Iran to acquire nuclear weapons and to continue the oppression and terror of the Iranian people.

        • KS Patriot

          "In fact, he sees it perfectly acceptable for Islamic madmen occupying Iran to acquire nuclear weapons and to continue the oppression and terror of the Iranian people."

          PLEASE CITE YOUR SOURCE FOR THIS COMMENT. (And, no, it can't be a CNNFOXCBSABCNBCMSNBC talking head, but actual statements made by Ron Paul.)

          I won't be holding my breath.

          • sasss31

            LOL. This is not even a point of contention! Ron Paul consistently makes the claim it is no problem for Iran to have a nuclear weapon and that he would not "stop" them from having it as "they simply want it for defense". This is not even a point under contention. It is something he consistently states on the campaign trail!

    • http://www.themadjewess.wordpress.com MAD JEWESS

      There is no such thing as an American that puts "Israel first".
      Americans are worried about the roof over their heads and food on the table.

      Of course Israel does not 'need' America…this will explain it: http://www.tomgrossmedia.com/ExodusFromGaza.html

    • sod

      Apparently Mr. Netanyahu didn't say they don't need our economical aid. What he said shows that he treasured our soldiers lives and he won't want our soldiers to sacrifice for Israel. While Pakistan, Afghan, Turkey, Egypt, Abbas, and others who accept our economical aids are killing our soldiers and their citizens at will. Does anyone who support Ron or Soros see the difference?

    • sasss31

      LMFAO

    • http://www.facebook.com/george.gallo.71 George Gallo

      There are intelligent people who are affronted by statism. I support many of them. Then there is Ron Paul, and most of his coterie of idol worshippers. Of course Soros can afford to push for one candidate while torpedoing the candidacy of that candidate's opponent with a straw man as compliant as your Ron Paul. He never could get beyond his slogans and say anything coherent beyond the first promising sentence. Not even before senility set in. Basically he would be fine with anarchy. So would Soros, the scourge that would fill such a vacuum.

  • JewLover

    how dare one criticize Israel…
    Israel first and US citizens second. Don't ever forget that….

    • mjazz

      Yeah sure, I mean, maybe we should just let the muslims try to commit Holocaust 2 and do nothing, like the Europeans did.

      • Edip Yuksel

        Iran has a Jewish minority and has not killed a single one. Knowing how the Zionist media is loud and everprsent, the entire world would hear the news. In fact, most Iranians know that muslims are in much worse conditions than Jews in Iran…

        Interestingly, it is the muslims that are killed and slaughtered by the Zionist regime. Your propaganda is so primitive that is manifactured for the Hoarders, the Kardashian fans, etc.

        What about coming up with a better propaganda line than this pathetic one?

        • http://www.themadjewess.wordpress.com MAD JEWESS

          There is no "Zionist" media, the media is BOLSHEVIK you moron

        • mjazz

          They want to destroy America also.

        • FriendofGaryCooper

          Where are your facts to show that "the Muslims are killed by the Zionist regime?" I suggest you read "The Farhud," a book by Edwin Black; detailing the
          (Farhud is Arabic for pogrom) pogrom in Baghdad in June, 1941; in which dozens of innocent Jews were murdered, hundreds more were wounded. The book also talks about Iran. The sun rises in the East, and sets in the West,
          or didn't you know that?

  • RON PAUL

    RON PAUL 2012

    • mrbean

      For 5,000 years Western Civilization has understood that it is strength–strength of character, strength of culture, and strength of arms–that makes it possible for all our other virtues to flourish. It is our willingness to battle those forces that seek to extinguish the light of civilization burning a a world of darkness that has led to this moment in history where one country, America, embodies the highest ideals of the Western tradition. The philosophy of Ron Paul and his supporters is simple, straightforward, and ultimately anti-American. They say if we allow evil and depravity to flourish at home and abroad then evil and depraved men will respect us and leave us alone. Ron Paul needs to learn that the Constitution is not a suicide pact.

    • Nikki

      A FACT about Ron Paul: OLD (by presidential norms)
      1st year in office: 77
      End of 4th year: 81
      Which leads me to believe his candidacy has alterier motives. He'd never be elected. He would be cast as old and senile.

  • Eighty Percenter

    A planetary axis of commies, nazis and muslims, funded and organised by a capo with a messiah complex? It really doesn't get any better than this. My money's on Hashem.

  • marie

    lately I have been disappointed in Ron Paul, this is the straw that broke the camels back, switching my stance, switching to Newt, Romney is just another Obama. I am so disappointed in Paul, I am sending this video and other info to all 5000 of my face book friends. Fubar Paul.

    • BewilderedAmerican

      Explaiin your moral relativism–how is Romney just another Obama?

    • prototype2118

      This is a joke, right? I hope you don't have kids… otherwise Newt might be making good use of them.

    • terry

      U clearly were never a Paul supporter to start with, or something this lame would simply make u fact check, prove silly, and move on to the next attack.. Remember who the REAL enemy is here in America… SATAN pulls the strings on every "conspiracy" out there, always has, always will be. Sooner you get that, sooner it ALL makes sense. NO HUMAN BEING, not even with SOROS $$$, is smart enough to pull all these factions together all over the world, to work together to destroy America, and any other freedom loving nation out there. God said these things will happen, and HE told us the who and why, he simply refused to tell us exactly WHEN..

  • kafir

    The interpid kapo from NY, Cheesy Chuckie Schumer has expressed an interest in having his pal Georgies old job. Chuck is greatly looking forward to collecting property from condemned fellow Jews as he can no longer count on them for financial support. His protege, Tony D. Weiner has already taken the shahada under orders of his wife, Huma of the ummah, and Chuck is about to swear his allegience to the moon god allah, and the pedophile mohamat. Chuck is ultimately for Chuck.

    • http://www.facebook.com/george.gallo.71 George Gallo

      Post this to my wall, please. I love your style and agree with the content of it. Besides which, I am still learning how Facebook works interactively. I see this is over half a year ago, but do hits still show up over time?

  • ObamaYoMoma

    I hate to rain on all the Jew hating Ron Paul supporters, but there aren't close to being enough Jew haters in this country to get that Jew hating Pied Piper, Ron Paul, elected. End of story.

    • prototype2118

      Ron Paul's biggest inspiration & role model is a Jew. Epic fail.

      • ObamaYoMoma

        You support that Jew hating Ron Paul because you are also an obsessed Jew hater and that is an epic fail.

      • sasss31

        Apparently, the only good Jew Ron Paul liked was one in an oven. After all, he had stated that it was "none of our business to save the Jews from Hitler".

        • KS Patriot

          Again, CITE YOUR SOURCE.

          • Anti-Paul Propagandist

            Facts? We don’t need no stinking FACTS!

            We aren’t exactly talking to the intelligent voters, here. We know all of those are already voting for Ron Paul. The people we’re trying to influence are the ones who’ve been trained, through 12 years of government-run, taxpayer-funded instruction to blindly accept what they’re told, without bothering to verify our claims.

            Lets face it, the majority of the American voting public has become so fat, stupid, and lazy that they couldn’t independently verify a fact, if their pathetic lives depended on it. Besides it’s virtually impossible to prove someone never said something, so we can put whatever words in his mouth we want, without ever referencing a quote, and the responsibility falls to you Paul supporters to disprove our slander. So, stop asking us for facts, quotes, and cites. The people we’re trying to persuade wouldn’t recognize any of that stuff, even if we could provide it, which we can’t, because we’re lying.

            Don’t you Paul supporters get it: you’re wasting your time on us. We will never be persuaded, because we aren’t interested in the truth. We are the lobbyists, foreign nationals, defense contractors, and government employees whose lives are dependent on the government largesse that is only possible by keeping American’s in a perpetual state of panic over an endless list of “threats.” Ron Paul sees through our bs, and he’s trying to educate the public, upon whose continued ignorance and gullibility our lifestyles depend. If Ron Paul were to make it to the White House, out gravy train would be over, and we’d have to get real jobs, and have to figure out ways to support ourselves, like the rest of you [shudder]. And we can’t let that happen.

            So, we’ll just keep right on slandering Ron Paul, right up to election day, or until America comes to its senses and picks one of our business-as-usual candidates, like Romney (who invented Obama-care, back when it was Romney-care), Gingrich (who never met a bailout or “stimulus” he didn’t love, and who adores the carbon-credit scam and the global warming hoax, upon which it’s based), Bachmann (a former IRS prosecutor, who couldn’t care less about your tax burden), Santorum (a reliable big government neocon, who excused the sex abuse scandal in his church, as a “regional issue,” who sponsored “hate-speech” legislation, is on record as believing American citizens “have no right to privacy,” lost his senate seat, after being named “most corrupt” member, supported the pro-abortion Arlen “Magic Bullet” Specter, and — believe it or not — actually slept with a dead baby), or Huntsman (a silver-spoon globalist, and Obama appointee).

            So, you pro-paul people are wasting your time on us paul-haters. You’d do better to spend your time talking to undecided voters. Oops!

          • nalejbank

            I couldn't have said it better! To be patriotic today is to protect the fine jobs that all our government workers do each day. We don't worry about taxes because we don't pay any. It's you private sector suckers that are getting milked of your production. Our union pay and contractors will fund only those candidates that will leave the key instrumentalities like the Federal Reserve and the Income Tax in place and unchallenged. If we can't raise taxes on you private sector laborers and small businesses then we'll just have China or some other foolish country to buy our debt. If that doesn't work, the FED will buy it by creating money with their computers or print what we need. You lose!
            With nearly 50% of American "workers" getting a check from some level of government, how the heck do you think you will ever elect a guy like Ron Paul? Now that we have this many voters, you are outnumbered. If you were going to save this country, you should have kept George H.W. Bush off of the Reagan ticket. He is one of us! Why do you think he supports Mitt Romney? Why do you think McCain endorsed Romney? Why do you think Romney and Obama get so much Goldman Sachs donations?
            If any of us really cared about the Constitution, don't you think we would have said so? We don't. In fact, we only tell you we do so you'll get off our backs and think there is hope.
            We will ride this gravy train until the system collapses so we can nationalize all of the private sector and make you permanent serfs to us! We only care about ourselves and you are our meal ticket!
            Try as you might, you cannot beat the heavy hand of government force.
            Oh, and by the way, we're shutting down the internet eventually too! Resistance is Futile!

    • Taetoe

      You have it backwards, the Paul people respect the Jews, it is the Obama people and just about all the others in the GOP that wish to control and order around Israel, I am for peace and life unlike those that want Obama or the others, these are the raciest people not supporting life and liberty, how can anyone be for sending the young off to war for the corporate bottom line, simple paul=peace, Obama = war

      • http://callofthepatriot.blogspot.com HermitLion

        We have it backwards only in the sense that your words are backwards.
        Ron Paul respects the Jews as much as a rapist respects women.

        Paul = peace for as long as it takes your enemy to get ready. Then it's slavery, which is exactly what cowards like you and the rest of his supporters deserve.

        • RickRoss

          That would only be true if we had some sort of interest in Israel. They are not our allies and have never been. They simply hold the world hostage and demand the right to murder Palestinian children every day of the year because the Torrah said so!

          • sasss31

            Great anti-Semitic nonsense from an anti-Semite. Glad to see the Ron Paul supporters come out in true colors!

          • http://callofthepatriot.blogspot.com HermitLion

            Not even one thing you said is true, or related to reality for that matter, but that's exactly the sort of conspiracy loving, anti-semitic dribble I expect from a Paul supporter.
            Ron Paul cannot help your mental illness – only a psychiatrist can do that.

          • Undecided

            @hermitliar

            “not one thing”?

            en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie

  • Ben

    I`m sure conspiracy is successful just with the 5th column existance.Majority of Libertarians` websites support Paul in his anti-defense and anti-Israel attacks.Soros` money fell on well prepared soil of welfare-state.

  • mrbean

    Want cut two trillion dollars? Cut out the free school lunches and make the parents feed their own kids – it is not the responsibility of government to do the parents job. Fire 1 out 5 government employees, make all government employees pay social security and their fair portion of medical and pensions just as the private sector does, freeze all government salaries and benefits for five years, eliminate the Department of Education, the Department of Energy, the Department of Commerce, and the Department of Health and Wellfare.

  • Brujo Blanco

    The comment that Iran has not killed a single Iranian Jew is false. There have been at least 13 Jews executed for alleged ties with Israel. Also, there are many legal restrictions placed on Jews. One of them is the use of the Hebrew language. Iran has been a whacko regime sine the Shah was removed from power. Make no mistake when the balloon goes up in Iran their Jews will suffer severely.

  • Justin

    Daniel Greenfield you have the time to research "radical Islam" and come with this conspiracy theory but don't have the time to research the biggest threat to this country. Which is the enslavement of the country through debt by the international bankers.

    Thomas Jefferson
    "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.
    Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The
    issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to
    whom it properly belongs." — Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.

    Andrew Jackson
    "If Congress has the right [it doesn't] to issue paper money [currency], it was given to them to be used by…[the government] and not to be delegated to individuals or corporations" — President Andrew Jackson, Vetoed Bank Bill of 1836

    James Madison
    "History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and it's issuance." — James Madison

  • Justin

    “Of all the contrivances of CHEATING THE LABORING CLASSES OF MANKIND, none has been more effective than that which deludes them with paper money.” ― Daniel Webster

    “Banks lend by creating credit. They create the means of payment out of nothing." ― Ralph M. Hawtrey (Former Secretary of the British Treasury) Encyclopedia Britannica, volume 15, Money.

    “A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the Nation and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the world—no longer a Government of free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men.” (Just before he died, Wilson is reported to have stated to friends that he had been “deceived” and that “I have betrayed my country.” He referred to the Federal Reserve Act passed during his Presidency.) ― Pres. Woodrow Wilson

    "This act (Federal Reserve Act) establishes the most gigantic trust on earth… When the President signs this act the invisible government by the money power, proven to exist by the Money Trust investigation, will be legalized. The new law will create inflation whenever the (money) trusts want inflation! The money power overawes the legislative and executive forces of the Nation and of the States. I have seen these forces exerted during the different stages of this bill. The GREATEST CRIME OF CONGRESS is its currency system. The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill!" ― Congressman Charles Lindbergh, Cong. Record Dec. 22, 1913

    "Under the Federal Reserve Act, panics are scientifically created ones, worked out as we figure a mathematical problem." ― Hon. Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr., written of the Panic of 1920

    “The people must be helped to think naturally about money. They must be told what it is, and what makes it money, and what are the possible TRICKS OF THE PRESENT SYSTEM which put nations and peoples UNDER CONTROL OF THE FEW. If the American people knew the CORRUPTION IN OUR MONEY SYSTEM THERE WOULD BE REVOLUTION BEFORE MORNING!” ― Henry Ford, Sr. — American Developer of the Automobile (Emerging Struggle pg. 165)

    “Mr. Chairman, we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks, hereinafter called the Fed. The Fed has cheated the government of these United States and the people of the United States out of enough money to pay the Nation's debt. The depredations and iniquities of the Fed has cost this country enough money to pay the National debt several times over. These twelve private credit monopolies were deceitfully and disloyally foisted upon this country by the bankers who came here from Europe and repaid us our hospitality by undermining our American institutions. Those bankers took money out of this country to finance Japan in a war against Russia. They created a reign of terror in Russia with our money in order to help that war along. They instigated the separate peace between Germany and Russia and thus drove a wedge between the Allies in the World War." ― Congressman Louis T. McFadden, Chairman of House Banking Committee 1921 through 1931 — in a speech made before the House in 1934

    “The Federal Reserve (Bank) is one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever seen. There is not a man within the sound of my voice who does not know that this Nation is run by the International Bankers.” ― Congressman Louis T. McFadden

    "When the Federal Reserve Act was passed, the people of these United States did not perceive that a world banking system was being set up here. A super-state controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the world for their own pleasure. Every effort has been made by the Fed (Reserve) to conceal its powers but the truth is — THE FED HAS USURPED THE GOVERNMENT!" ― Congressman Louis McFadden, Chairman of House Comm. on Banking and Currency from 1920 to 1931

  • Justin

    “The bill (Fed. Reserve Act) as it stands seems to me to open the way to a vast inflation of currency. I do not like to think that any law can be passed which will make it possible to submerge the gold standard in a FLOOD OF IRREDEEMABLE paper currency.” ― Henry Cabot Lodge, Sr. — Congressional Record June 10, 1932

    “The bill (Fed. Reserve Act) as it stands seems to me to open the way to a vast inflation of currency. I do not like to think that any law can be passed which will make it possible to submerge the gold standard in a FLOOD OF IRREDEEMABLE paper currency.” ― Henry Cabot Lodge, Sr. — Congressional Record June 10, 1932

    "The real menace of our republic is the invisible government which, like a giant octopus, sprawls its slimy length over our city, state and nation. At the head is a small group of [Jewish] banking houses generally referred to as “international bankers’. This little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run our government for their own selfish ends." ― Mayor John F. Hylan, of New York City — March 26, 1922

    "The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has OWNED THE GOVERNMENT ever since the days of Andrew Jackson." ― Pres. Franklin D. Roosevelt, Nov. 21, 1933

    "You will recall that the first act of the Marxists, who were surrepti­tiously infiltrated into key positions in our government in 1933, was to depreciate the dollar and deny to the American people the right of redemption because these conspirators had learned from Karl Marx that the surest way to overturn the social order was to debauch the currency. To accomplish this they installed the Laske—Keynes—Marxist monetary system of a so-called ‘managed currency.” ― Hon. John T. Wood – American Mercury, May 1957, pg. 145

    "The present Federal Reserve System is a flagrant case of the Government’s conferring a special privilege upon bankers. The Government hands to the banks its credit, at virtually no cost to the banks, to be loaned out by the bankers for their own private profit. Still worse, however, is the fact that it gives the bankers practically complete control of the amount of money that shall be in circulation. Not one dollar of these Federal Reserve notes gets into circulation and without someone paying interest of someone paying interest to some bank to keep it circulation. Our present money system is a debt of money system. Before a dollar can circulate, a debt must be created. Such a system assumes that you can borrow yourself out of debt." ― Willis A. Overholser, LL.B – in History of Money in the United States.

    • http://callofthepatriot.blogspot.com HermitLion

      Does the little fairy that lives in your head ever goes to rest?
      I heard she's actually working with the banker-ninjas.

  • Justin

    “In the United States today we have in effect two governments. We have the duly constituted Government. Then we have an independent, uncontrolled and uncoordinated government in the Federal Reserve System, operating the money powers which are reserved to Congress by the Constitution.” ― Congressman Wright Patman, Chairman of the House Banking Committee

    "Today the path to total dictatorship in the United States can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by the Congress, the President, or the people.. .Outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government, a bureaucratic elite which believes our Constitution IS OUTMODED! ALL THE STRANGE DEVELOPMENTS in foreign policy agreements may be traced to this group who are going to make us over to suit their pleasure… This political action group (PAC) has its own local political support organizations, its own pressure groups, its own vested interests, its FOOTHOLD WITHIN OUR GOVERNMENT, and its own propaganda apparatus." (Not to mention its own Gestapo, its own army, its own followers, its own God—Satan, its trillions of dollars with which to buy everyone, its ownership of most elected officials and appointed bureaucrats, its secret oaths and plans, and its desire to own the world and everyone in it! -Ed. Note) ― Senator William Jenner — Feb. 23, 1954 (Shadows of Power pg. 4)

    "It is no secret that the international bankers profiteer from sovereign state debt. The New York banks have found important profit centers in the lending to countries plunged into debt by Socialist regimes. Under Socialist regimes, countries go deeper and deeper into debt because socialism as an economic system does not work. International bankers are sophisticated enough to understand this phenomenon, and are sophisticated enough to profit from it.
    Because the public debt is sovereign debt, the bankers have calculated that they will always be able to collect. If there is too much risk in the private debt Bide, it is a simple matter to get Socialist governments to nationalize banks, industrial enterprises, and agricultural holdings. In this way, private debt is converted to sovereign state debt which the bankers have believed will always be collectable.
    The New York banks find the profit from the interest on the sovereign debt to be critical to their balance sheets. Up until very recently, this has been a essentially risk-less game for the banks because the IMP and World Bank have stood ready to bail the banks out with taxpayer’s money." ― Sen. Jesse Helms — Congressional Record Dec. 15, 1987 Vol.133, pg. S18148

    Should I go on? Thank you for wasting my time with this article. It just show how scared the Establishment is of Ron Paul and not any of the other candidates. Thank you for the reassurance that I am on the right side of history. God bless!

  • WilliamJamesWard

    I think that if Ron Paul was elected President the scenario of him turning
    National Defense over to a bunch of anti-American whacko's would have
    a hard time getting by the Congress and Senate, not to mention the Defense
    Department itself. If I remember correctly the men and women of the
    Defense Department are not all liberal loonatics and take their oath of office
    seriously, upholding and defending the Constitution. We have and elected
    government that has a job to do and we do not have a king who appoints and
    gets what he wants unless the rest of government do not care and pay no
    attention and are drunk on self adoration and swimming in bribes, which is
    to say most of what we have now but November is on the way……….William

    • Guest

      “We cannot be serious about reining in federal government spending if we take the military budget off the table,” said Congressman Ron Paul. “We must focus our resources on defending the United States rather than on building and maintaining an unsustainable trillion dollar empire overseas.”….

      • Paleocon

        Haliburton and company won no-bid (meaning they didn’t have to be price-competitive) defense department contacts, in which they were awarded “cost-plus” compensation, which meant taxpayers had to pay this group of defense contractors a percentage on top of whatever they spent on ANYTHING! Predictably, the taxpayer was billed for luxury hotel accommodations PLUS, luxury automobile rentals/purchases PLUS, the rebuilding of Iraq and Afghanistan PLUS, the construction of multiple, elaborate military bases for the Iraqis and Afghanis PLUS. The list of PLUSES goes on and on, with no accountability, because “it’s in the contact.”

        Would any of you morons who seem to believe that cutting even a single penny of defense department spending would mean the “death of America!” like to explain to those of us with actual functioning brains how America couldn’t defend herself without paying trillions of dollars to contractors to rebuild countries we saw fit to bomb, in the first place? Or how America couldn’t save billions of dollars every year — billions our government justifies as “defense” expenditures — by refraining from handing out free money to our “enemies” (money we’re currently BORROWING from CHINA), in order to rationalize similar handouts to our “friends”? If you loons can’t envision the potential savings to US taxpayers, without sacrificing a shred of national defense, I’d love to see you clowns “balance” your checkbooks (I’m sure we’d all get a good chuckle).

        If anyone is a “danger to our national defense,” it’s you fools who want to keep spending taxpayer money, like drunken sailors on furlough, until we’re completely bankrupt, and so beholden to China, that we’ll be more worried about foreclosure than “spreading western civilization around the globe,” because we will no longer be able to afford the latter (btw, if you have to borrow money for it, you can’t afford it) nor avoid the former.

        Add to our budgetary problems the fact that mercenaries now comprise a growing portion of our military forces. Now, I ask you, my moronic friends, to provide me with ONE example of an empire able to maintain its aspirations of global domination, through the use of mercenaries.

        If we persist on this path, America will join the rubbish heap with all once-great nations, who couldn’t resist the temptation to reach for empire. All of you fools, who dare criticize Ron Paul’s wisdom and sobriety on the matter of national defense, YOU will have contributed to the demise of the nation you unconvincingly profess to love, because you love vanity more than wisdom, you love the siren’s song of “global empire” more than our forgotten founding ideals of a Free Republic.

  • BS77

    The media's obsession with this over exaggerated and over hyped event, is this idiotic Iowa caucus….I read somewhere that the Iowa caucus voting represented LESS that .05% of the American voting population. It is one of the most vacuous and over reported non events….the media interest for that old crank Ron Paul is regrettable.

  • Stephen_Brady

    I cannot tell anyone how much I loathe Ron Paul. If he and Barney Frank were to get their way, the United States would only have a SELF-DEFENSE FORCE. That is Paul's purpose … it's actually logical, in an evil kind of way. If he doesn't like "foreign wars", and he believes that America is an "empire", dismantling the US military is the way to cripple the nation's power.

  • Paleocon

    Ron Paul doesn’t “hate Jews.” He doesn’t even “hate Israel.” BTW, being Jewish is not synonymous with being Israeli: an Israeli is a foreign national, while Jews are a racial/religious sub-group, comprising many solid Americans who wish to neither be associated with nor mistaken for any other nationality.

    Assuming that all Jews are pro-Israel is about as racist as it gets. Do you assume that Obama (or anyone else with a similar heritage) considers the national security of Kenya superior to or equal to that of the US? My grandfather left Ireland, for a better life in America, and there isn’t one member of my family who considers the national security of Ireland with more than a passing interest, if that; there certainly isn’t one of them who’d suggest that the US should intervene in the dispute in Northern Ireland, or provide military aid to Ireland, or place the security of Ireland as equal to the US? I hate to break out to you, but if you place the national security of any foreign nation as equal to that of the US — I don’t care if it’s Ireland, Italy, Iran, Israel, or Iceland — you might as well register as an agent of a foreign government, because you’re NOT an American, and have no right voting in an American election.

    And, for all you duh-masses who actually believe the “Jew-hating” comments in this thread are genuine, grow up; it’s all part of a smear campaign to discredit Ron Paul, through guilt-by-association. Billions of US tax (YOUR) dollars flow into the hands of foreign nationals, every year, under the guise of “foreign aid,” and, as you can imagine, the people who’ve grown fat off of your labor will not tolerate a disruption on their cash flow. Don’t buy the hype. Don’t be stupid.

    It may be true that many who consider themselves Israelis-first treat Ron Paul as an enemy, but he has MANY Jewish friends and supporters. In fact, Austrian Economics, which he is a student/advocate of, was developed by a Jew, Ludwig von Mises, and Dr Paul’s political mentor was a Jew, Murray Rothbard (neither man was an Israeli citizen).

    A defense of Dr Paul, by Jewish professor, Walter Block:

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/102702.ht...

    • Stephen_Brady

      Walter Block? You failed to mention that he's also a libertarian attempting to influence the GOP nomination. Wasn't that relevant?

      • Paleocon

        @stephen_brady

        oh, okay. I get it. You race-baiters are only attacking Paul because he’s anti-neocon; you guys never really believed that garbage you were spewing about him somehow being “anti-jewish.” See, I took you at yourd word, and provided you with evidence of the falsity of your smear. Now, you want a neocon to vouch for him, too? GFY.

        You want to talk about “influencing GOP nominations”? Research neocon history. That’s right, the same self-named neocons who invaded the Republican party, after WWII, to influence our nominations with their big government corporate welfare state, and their “perpetual war for perpetual peace” nonsense.

        Educate yourself, son. Then, you can sit at the big table, with the grownups:

        http://www.vdare.com/articles/whats-in-a-name-the-curiou...

        http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig2/neo-cons-arch.html

        • http://www.themadjewess.wordpress.com MAD JEWESS

          Ru Paul the ultimate neo con voted for 'gays' to serve openly in the US military.

          • KS Patriot

            No, he voted against "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," believing that it was wrong for the US Government to use the military as a form of social engineering (which it is).

            Frankly, I think that any soldier flaunting their sexuality while on duty (hetero OR homo doesn't matter) should be reprimanded for conduct unbecoming a soldier. What they do when they're off-duty, frankly, should be no one's business. Which was exactly the policy that the military worked under for the 229 years BEFORE "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" was enacted…

            Stop distorting Dr. Paul's voting record to fit your hatred of him.

        • Stephen_Brady

          Son? You would have to be at least 80 to qualify for the honor of being my father.

          I'm not race-baiting. Ron Paul has a problem with Jews, in general, and with Israel, in particular. This, along with his insane ideas on the military and his foreign policy, is why he will lose the race for the nomination, no matter what happens in Iowa, tomorrow.

          By the way, son, you do know that the term "neocon" as it's employed by the Paulbots is code for anti-Semitic? But of course, you do. That's why you use it …

          • Guest

            Amazing that so many people regurgitate the lies about Rep. Paul…So, because Paul doesn't think we should BORROW tens of billions to give that money to ANY other country so that they can turn around and buy weapons from our military industry when were are in such incredibly poor financial shape ourselves, he is a racist? A Jew hater? AN anti-Semite? Ridiculous! He never singled out Israel. http://www.ronpaul.com/2011-08-12/ron-paul-cut-fohttp://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf "Almost all U.S. bilateral aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance." https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-worl

            It's a financial matter, our country is bankrupt. We do not have the money to give away to other countries anymore. Borrowing billions from China to buy and influence friends in other countries is one of the stupidest things our government does… http://dailybail.com/home/pimcos-bill-gross-the-uhttp://www.dallasfed.org/news/speeches/fisher/200

            He doesn't think we should interfere in the affairs of SOVEREIGN nations – starting senseless wars that have nothing to do with OUR security (You know, like the founding fathers warned us not to do a few times…). History is littered with countries that tried to maintain an empire all over the world…Non-intervention is not isolationism. http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul401.html

            He wants to bring our military home to protect America, isn't that what the purpose of having a military is? The majority of our military is in over 150 different countries, so how are they protecting America from thousands of miles away while we are slowly invaded by Mexico? http://www.ronpaul.com/2011-07-20/ron-paul-bring-

            The corruption of the media is staggering…I mean, do they REALLY expect us to believe all the propaganda about Rep. Paul while the corporate government types: Gingrich, Romney, Perry, etc are somehow better than Obama…? That there is going to be any difference if we elect Gingrich, Romney or Perry or re-elect Obama? ANY of them is going to change ANYTHING that the U.S. is doing now, domestic or foreign…? ANYTHING? Be. Real. Nothing changed from Bush to Obama and nothing will change if Gingrich, Romney or Perry become President…. If you start viewing all the Presidencies and Congresses as one long one, then you might start to see the whole picture. There are ALWAYS strong continuities between their administrations (in a lot of cases featuring the same bad actors in the cabinets, appointees and corporate sponsors…) and their foreign policies/wars, executive orders, proclamations, PDDs, NSMs, actions, etc fit together with a definite purpose.

            As for Congress, nothing happens without the blessing of both parties. Oh, they pretend to oppose one another but what really happens is this little scam where a bad guy or three pops up whenever needed to deviate from the party position and "impede" a bills success, throw a big stink on TV and radio and all the while knowing that the passing of the bill is in the bag. The Party can claim it is trying to prevent it while it actually supports the action and meanwhile, the designated villain looks good at home to his/her constituents…the Democrats act while the 2012 NDAA was being passed is a good example of this.

            Rep. Paul is the only one who might change things, the problem for him is that the people with the money are not going to give up what they have. And so you get hit pieces like this column….

          • Stephen_Brady

            It's so much fun debating Paulbots. You've accused me of "regurgitating" the lies about Dr. Paul, and yet you regurgitate seven links to RP propaganda.

            "Rep. Paul is the only one who might change things, the problem for him is that the people with the money are not going to give up what they have. And so you get hit pieces like this column…. "

            He's the only one who "might" change things. Is this hope & change? Putting "might" into the sentence didn't particularly make it a resonating endorsement of the "change" that Dr. Paul would make. And so, you are left with hope.

            Good luck on that message!

      • Paleocon

        @stephen_brady

        oh, okay. I get it. You race-baiters are only attacking Paul because he’s anti-neocon; you guys never really believed that garbage you were spewing about him somehow being “anti-jewish.” See, I took you at your word, and provided you with evidence of the falsity of your smear. Now, you want a neocon to vouch for him, too? GFY.

        You want to talk about “influencing GOP nominations”? Research neocon history. That’s right, the same self-named neocons who invaded the Republican party, after WWII, to influence our nominations with their big government corporate welfare state, and their “perpetual war for perpetual peace” nonsense.

        Educate yourself, son. Then, you can sit at the big table, with the grownups:

        http://www.vdare.com/articles/whats-in-a-name-the-curiou...

        http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig2/neo-cons-arch.html

      • Paleocon

        @stephen_brady

        oh, okay. I get it. You race-baiters are only attacking Paul because he’s anti-neocon; you guys never really believed that garbage you were spewing about him somehow being “anti-jewish.” See, I took you at your word, and provided you with evidence of the falsity of your smear. Now, you want a neocon to vouch for him, too? GFY.

        You want to talk about “influencing GOP nominations”? Research neocon history. That’s right, the same self-named neocons who invaded the Republican party, after WWII, to influence our nominations with their big government corporate welfare state, and their “perpetual war for perpetual peace” nonsense.

        Educate yourself, son. Then, you can sit at the big table, with the grownups:

        http://www.vdare.com/articles/whats-in-a-name-the-curiou...

        http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig2/neo-cons-arch.html

      • Paleocon

        @stephen_brady

        oh, okay. I get it. You race-baiters are only attacking Paul because he’s anti-neocon; you guys never really believed that garbage you were spewing about him somehow being “anti-jewish.” See, I took you at your word, and provided you with evidence of the falsity of your smear. Now, you want a neocon to vouch for him, too? GFY.

        You want to talk about “influencing GOP nominations”? Research neocon history. That’s right, the same self-named neocons who invaded the Republican party, after WWII, to influence our nominations with their big government corporate welfare state, and their “perpetual war for perpetual peace” nonsense.

        Educate yourself, son. Then, you can sit at the big table, with the grownups:

        http://www.vdare.com/articles/whats-in-a-name-the-curiou...

        http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig2/neo-cons-arch.html

        • Stephen_Brady

          You don't prove any points by repeating posts, my boy …

          • Paleocon

            Sounds like your body it’s due to expire, long before your mind reaches puberty.

  • Al Dorman

    FPM and most of these anti-Ron Paul commenters are BIG GOVERNMENT SCUMBAGS, no matter what they say…

    • Stephen_Brady

      Another Paulbot, I see …

      • Juls

        You don’t believe in conspiracies, yet you call people “paulbots” as to indicate a blind following of the masses/few. Is it not possible there are other people who blindly follow the views of communism, progressivism, socialism, futurist, or satanism? Or even believe in dispensationalism? Perhaps the “bot” is you?

        Perhaps you sound just like others and your beliefs are without reason. Name calling and repetition are propaganda techniques. The article is also propaganda by associating Soros and Paul you now believe it’s true and a Soros conspiracy. If your reasoning is correct then you must also research Soros and Newt and also check if Newt ever sat on a panel with any of Soros people. Who is the bot now?

    • http://www.themadjewess.wordpress.com MAD JEWESS

      Most Ru Paul supporters would rather have Obama another 4 than any GOP another 8.

      Ya all are leftists.

      • Paleocon

        Really? Can you accurately define “left” and “right”? I’m getting you can’t.

      • http://www.themadjewess.wordpress.com MAD JEWESS

        I am a Daughter of the American Revolution, and Iroquois, my fathers side of my family has been conservative for over 500 years where you trample so lightly,

        Do tell me, gasbag…. HOW repealing the DADT vote is conservative?
        Fraud.
        Little Bolshevik enabling slime.

        • Paleocon

          The only thing you’re Right about is that you’re mad, quite mad. Your family has been “conservative for 500″? The only thing your family has been for “500 years” is drooling imbeciles; it’s remarkable your line isn’t already extinct. My dear, American conservatism stems from the Founding Era (circa 1776), not from the great buffalo hunts of the early 1500′s. Get an education, sweetheart.

        • Paleocon

          For your information, Mad, there was no DADT prior to the Clinton adminstration. What was repealed was a Bill Clinton initiative, which you, apparently, madly supported.

      • http://www.themadjewess.wordpress.com MAD JEWESS

        You are not 'right', OR 'right', you are all wrong.
        DADT:
        Allowance of 'gays' to serve OPENLY, which RU Paul voted for, and you endorse.
        It is also in the Communist Manifesto: rule 26
        'Present homosexuality, degeneracy, and promiscuity as "normal, natural, and healthy."

        YOUR candidate, LIBERAL-tarian voted for this degeneration on MY land.

  • Juls

    You would vote for a GOP candidate who is a progressive and sleep at night because you voted Republican. If Newt and Romney are both Progressives and Obama is a Progressive, then is your vote also a vote for Obama? Do you think we should vote for the lesser of two evils?

  • 82D ABN Combat Vet

    You know, my daddy always said, “you can judge a man by his enemies.” My daddy seemed to think a man was doing something wrong, unless at least one person hated him. Well, hell. If all you chicken hawk scumbags hate the man so much, I guess Ron Paul can count on my vote.

    • Stephen_Brady

      Delta Co/2/501/101st ABN, Republic of Vietnam, 1968-69. Combat vet, sniper.

      I am opposed to Ron Paul. You support him, and I don't. Can't we leave it at that and put an end to the name-calling?

      • http://callofthepatriot.blogspot.com HermitLion

        If a Paul supporter identified himself as a combat vet, he probably is anything BUT.
        (Or perhaps just a very serious veterinarian).

        • Stephen_Brady

          I usually try to give people the benefit of the doubt, since I have been accused of lying about my service on the internet (usually by Ron Paul supporters).

    • http://www.themadjewess.wordpress.com MAD JEWESS

      I dont hate him at all, I cant stand you moonbats, his FOLLOWERS.

  • Ghostwriter

    But Ron Paul can't count on mine. The man is an isolationist who lives in a fantasy world. We need leaders who live in the real world,not the Land of Make-Believe. There are already concerns about how he views Jews and black people. The more I learn about Ron Paul,the more I see he's not fit to be President of the United States.

    • 82D ABN Combat Vet

      Heh. Ghostwriter, you chickenhawks seem to be afraid of everything. TR said, “walk softly, but carry a big stick.” But, you chickenhawks seem to think you can march around the globe wacking whoever you want with that stick, ‘ cause it’s always somebody else’s butts and bucks on the line.

      You’re like a sissy little brother, always crying to big brother about this bully or that bogeyman. When it’s fighting time, though, you guys are alway hiding out, getting medical wavers, or gaming the system some other way, but never doing any of your own fighting. And, funny thing is you never see any politicians’s or defense contractors’s kids on the front lines either.

      You know, every generation of my family has been in one war or another, as far back as anyone’s kept records. Doesn’t seem to have done us any good, at all — except maybe make those starting them, but not fighting them a little richer than they were before.

      My mama gave me a book for Christmas. It’s called’s ‘War is a Racket.’ It was written by a Marine … General Butler, I think. It really got me thinking. Maybe, it’s time we give peace a shot, for awhile anyway.

      Or, if you chickenhawks still want war, maybe it’s time you suit up, for a change. Empty your own wallets and veins, next time around. Let’s see if that doesn’t quench the war thirst of you sideliners. Heck, very least maybe it’ll work the coward out of ya, then maybe you’ll stop pissing yer pants over every little thing that goes bump in the night. Worth a shot.

      • http://www.themadjewess.wordpress.com MAD JEWESS

        Heh. Ghostwriter, you chickenhawks seem to be afraid of everything

        You sound like a robot.
        "Chickenhawks?"
        Really…
        How so?
        Just because we disagree with the LIBERAL-tarian, pot smoking endorsing, repealer of DADT?

        Looks like you didnt have enough of a high in the jungle and just want Paul, so you can smoke a little more of the grass. Thats why you are voting for him. Who's kidding who

        • Ronald Reagan

          “I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is

          libertarianism ” Ronald Reagan (1975)

          What Reagan was referring to, here, was traditional American conservatism, what its now called “paleoconservatism,” as opposed to “neo-conservatism” (a post-WWII invention).

          What its now known as “libertarianism” (prior to the invasion of the Republican party, by the neocons), prior to WWII, was a good chunk of traditional American conservatism. When the big government socialists started invading the Republican party, though, the traditional conservatives felt less and less welcome in their own party, until some splintered off, about the time of our bicentennial, and formed the Libertarian Party, while others of us stayed, to battle with the neocons, for control of OUR party.

          The Libertarian party has always been an odd assortment of individuals. Some are almost single-issue Libertarians, like the drug legalization people or homosexuals. Others are diehard, across the board. Personally, I could never be an LP member, because there is a certain dogmatism and utopianism that isn’t any better than the delusional neoconservativism. The small “l,” I can handle, not so much the big “L,” though. That’s probably the same reason that Ron Paul’s flirtation with the LP was so brief. Many people are confused, when he refers to himself as “libertarian,” but what he means is that he places personal liberty a the highest priority in political action (as did out founders), not that he identifies with the LP platform, per se.

          Some, people confuse libertarianism with “libertine-ism,” and there is a small element, also, within the LP (the element is much more prevalent in the DNC, for obvious reasons), although they aren’t the same thing. A true libertine is a sociopath, with no moral compass, driven through life by his own lusts (Bill Clinton is a good example).

          A libertarian, though, believes in natural rights, and that the violation of the natural rights of others requires punishment. John Locke (not the one from ‘Lost’) wrote extensively about natural rights, and was an inspiration to the authors of our Declaration of Independence, Constitution, and Bill of Rights, America’s founding documents.

          It is the dedication to the principles expressed in our founding documents that defines traditional American conservatism. And that its what Reagan was talking about.

        • http://www.contextflexed.com Flipside

          You’re kidding who with a face like that.

    • Ghostwriter

      Sir,did you read my post? I said nothing about war. I just said that Ron Paul isn't living on the same planet the rest of us are. I'll give you one example,Iran. Ron Paul thinks that Iran should have a nuclear weapon. Most sane people don't think so. You see,Iran is run by a bunch of religious fanatics who want their religion to be the main religion of this planet. They want to nuke Israel and everyone else who isn't like them.
      As President,Ron Paul would do nothing to stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons. So,Mr. Combat Vet,do you want your president to live in the real world or a fantasy one like Ron Paul or Barack Obama? Personally,I want a President who lives in the real world,not the Land of Make-Believe.

      • Real World

        GW,

        Seriously? Talk about your “fantasy land” and “make believe.” “He wants them to have a nuke”? Your just completely making stuff up. If you expect others to take you seriously, you need to stop lying. Please provide us with evidence of your claim. The man has never said or even implied any such thing. Only a Santorum stooge would make such an obviously false claim.

        • Ghostwriter

          I'm not a Santorum stooge. I just call them as I see them. As for Iran,Ron Paul doesn't care about that. He's just fine with Iran having nukes. He said so in the debates! Please stop being foolish. It's not good for you.

      • http://www.themadjewess.wordpress.com MAD JEWESS

        Since Ru Paul wants Iran to have a nuke so bad….who is the REAL war monger? KNOWING fully well they would use them…

  • Jen Gelman

    This may explain his popularity: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2080842

    • KS Patriot

      And you have evidence that Ron Paul used cannabis where….?

      Nice hate-filled ad hominem attack there, Jen.

      • Paleocon

        Jen came face-to-face with a fact, once, but she didn’t inhale.

  • Henry Hollenberg

    This Ron Paul is doing a great job of getting the true statists to out themselves. Keep it up, it's been a real eye opener for me.

  • Naturlvr214

    Oh yeah, thats it. Thats why OWS is doing everything they can to help make sure that Ron Paul does not get elected including voter intimidation- yes I saw it with my own eyes and I do have proof. Soros has fingerprints all over OWS. Here is a quote I found today in another article: "In fact, the original call to “Occupy Wall Street” came from the magazine AdBusters, an “anti-consumerist” publication financed by, among other sources, the Soros-funded Tides Foundation.

    Other Soros-backed outfits promoting big government — some with myriad ties to the Obama administration — are also publicly driving the occupation campaign. MoveOn.org, for instance, has received millions of dollars from the billionaire banker. And now, the group is urging its supporters to join the Occupy Wall Street movement as well."

    So why if they are so "cozy" would he have his OWS people be SO out to get Dr. Ron Paul?? It doesn't make sense to me. Another point – Soros is all about Big Government, anyone who knows anything about Ron Paul knows he is the exact opposite of that.

    Anyway some people will do what ever it takes to keep the status quo going.

  • Paleocon

    I have to give you that one, Mad: people who put Israel first are definitely un-American, and should butt-out of our elections. Thanks for your support.

  • http://therepublicanmother.blogspot.com republicanmother

    This is crazy!!
    George Soros belonged to the Carlyle Group just like George Bush Sr. (a private equity firm specializing in defense contracting) If you start following this line of interlocking, almost any republican can be tied to George Soros. Soros did donate to McCain's 2000 presidential bid.

    Those who have really studied how far the money trail goes know that central banking controls both political parties in the US, thus they're both gunning to take RP out (figuratively, I hope) It was the Federal Reserve Chairman of the NY Fed that gave the Bolsheviks one million dollars (Source Washington Post Feb 2, 1918)
    It was Wall Street through Thomas Lamont who loaned Mousillini his first million.
    And according to Louis McFadden, Chairman of Banking in the House during the Great Depression:
    “After WWI, Germany fell into the hands of the German International Bankers. Those bankers bought her and they now own her, lock, stock and barrel. They purchased her industries, they have mortgages on her soil, they control her production; they control all her public utilities. The International German Bankers have subsidized the present government of Germany and they have also supplied every dollar of the money Adolf Hitler has used in his lavish campaign to build up a threat to the government of Bruening. When Bruening fails to obey the orders of the German International Bankers, Hitler is brought forth to scare the Germans into submission. Through the Federal Reserve Board over thirty billions of dollars was pumped into Germany…You have all heard of the spending that has taken place in Germany…modernistic dwellings, her great planetariums, her gymnasiums, her swimming pools, her fine public highways, her perfect factories….All this was done with our money. All this was given to Germany through the Federal Reserve Board. The Federal Reserve Board has pumped so many billions of dollars into Germany that they dare not name the total.”
    – Rep. Lewis T. McFadden (D PA), Chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee, 1931, (spoken before Congress eight years before Hitler invaded Poland and duly entered into the Congressional Record.)
    Please do your homework people.

  • Paul of Alexandria

    Ron Paul supporters: you miss the point.
    First, rather than call names, address the issues brought up in the article. I don't care what else Paul says, if he's affiliated in any way with Soros than he should not be president. If he's too stupid to do the research properly, than he doesn't deserve to be president. Same with the newsletters that are the current bone of contention. Either he knew what was in them, or he allowed things to be published under his name without bothering to vet them. Either way, he's not qualified for the job.
    Secondly, regarding this article specifically, military spending is a constitutionally mandated part of the Federal Government's job, and isolationism doesn't work. We want to see two items addressed, and have seen neither: how he is going to handle entitlements, and what is foreign policy will be. Going by what he has said to date, neither will be handled well.

    • Military Mom

      I’ve been reading the comments, here, and the name calling and ignoring the issues has been overwhelmingly coming from the anti Paul people. The Ron Paul supporters here, have been much more forthcoming with facts to support their arguments. I think it’s clearly the anti Paul people who are being ignorant, childish, and abusive. The facts are against them, so they resort to infantile games.

    • http://www.eraserve.com/tutorials/ Rage_Fury

      Don't give two craps about Soros. Lest ye forget, Ron Paul's record for supporting the Constitution in Congress speaks for itself and his message has not changed a bit for a very long time. I do not believe a second that Ron Paul will in any way kowtow to a schmuck with a few billion in $.

      Last I knew Publishers were not Editors. Of course I don't think most Publishers work an 80 hour work weak in the medical profession. Some of which was clearly helping minorities with cash problems, while at the same time hammering the point that the Judicial System is clearly biased against minorities and still is…
      Of course the Newsletters were 20 years ago and clearly, unless you are some sort of Omniscient being, you tend to learn a few things from past mistakes. This in no way reflects on how he would currently handle the job as a POTUS, if anything he clearly has learned to keep tabs on his underlings as he is reminded of this BS often.

      As to military spending, Cutting the money that funds Overseas operations and bringing the troops home in no way hurts the Military's ability to defend the Nation. The portion overseas are clearly not defending the mainland from anything, but we are definitely bleeding much money out on overseas support…
      We are talking a $Trillion over 9-10 years (100-110 billion a year) and some of which is no doubt baseline. It won't be instantaneous
      Thing is with the troops home we definitely don't need as many bodies nor the money allocated for overseas support. We will still be quite capable of repelling an invader, even more so with our overseas assets back home where they belong. This is of course what National Defense is for. National Defense is not for maintaining an unneeded presence in some 150 odd countries while attacking the Middle East a few countries at a time.

      I agree Isolationism doesn't work. Good thing Ron Paul is not an Isolationist, a common misconception of people who don't know the difference between isolationism and non-intervention. If you want specifics on how Ron Paul would handle Foreign Policy and Entitlements I suggest you look it up or write him asking for your specifics. Last I knew Ron Paul had more of plan written out than any of the other Establishment candidates did. Especially his plan to balance the budget, which is clear and by the way, none of the other candidates seemingly have one of those in any detail…

  • Casual Observer

    I’m sure a Paul supporter will supply a comprehensive list, eventually, of all the candidates, and their connections to George Soros.

    The “connection” indicated in this article, however, seems to be a rather distant (through many degrees of separation) and farfetched one, that is convoluted, hard to follow, and would get laughed out of court. The author is straining at gnats. It isn’t as if Ron Paul was in business with, or even had any personal dealings with Soros, according to the article.

    If Ron Paul’s so-called “connection” to Soros bars him from the presidency, than the fact that Soros and George Bush were/are actual business partners (a matter of public record) must be grounds for his execution.

  • speedyjerry

    Foolishness, every American Politician is in cahoots with George Soros, don't single out Ron Paul. George Soros bought Halliburton in 2006, you know what that is? Here's some facts http://speedyjerry.com/2011/12/25/how-did-we-get-

  • jnet

    I went to the Huffington Post article posted: July 6, 2010 09:02 AM
    .
    Here is the link:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-barney-frank/wh

    It says this in the Huffington Post article:
    In order to create a systematic approach to reducing military spending, we have convened a Sustainable Defense Task Force consisting of experts on military expenditures that span the ideological spectrum. The task force has produced a detailed report with specific recommendations for cutting Pentagon spending by approximately $1 trillion over a ten year period. It calls for eliminating certain Cold War weapons and scaling back our commitments overseas….

    Earlier in the article is this:
    We are not talking about cutting the money needed to supply American troops in the field. Once we send our men and women into battle, even in cases where we may have opposed going to war, we have an obligation to make sure that our servicemembers have everything they need. And we are not talking about cutting essential funds for combating terrorism; we must do everything possible to prevent any recurrence of the mass murder of Americans that took place on September 11, 2001.
    Immediately after World War II, with much of the world devastated and the Soviet Union becoming increasingly aggressive, America took on the responsibility of protecting virtually every country that asked for it. Sixty-five years later, we continue to play that role long after there is any justification for it, and currently American military spending makes up approximately 44% of all such expenditures worldwide. The nations of Western Europe now collectively have greater resources at their command than we do, yet they continue to depend overwhelmingly on American taxpayers to provide for their defense.

    I see nothing in the Huffington Post article that contradicts how Ron Paul stands on National Defense. Here is how he stands on National Defense: http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/national-de

    Over half of Washington DC has ties to Soros.
    Soros has most of DC in his back pocket…except for Ron Paul.
    How could Ron Paul meet with anyone in DC that is
    not tied to Soros? That is the question needing to be asked.

    Daniel Greenfield, in his article “Ron Paul’s Soros Defense Plan”
    uses a deceptive age old devious tactic of "guilt by association". Because the people on the committee are somehow associated with Soros, does that mean Ron Paul is associated with Soros???????????? NO !!!

  • Santorum’s for Paul

    Wow! Even Santorum’s family prefers Ron Paul.

    dailycaller.com/2012/01/03/the-trouble-with-my-uncle-rick-santorum/

  • Real World

    I see you’ve softened/modified your claim, but you’re still lying. You and I both know that what Ron Paul said was that since Israel has in the neighborhood of 300 nukes and Iran has zero, if Israel detects a threat to its national security, Israel should take action, not the US.

    No one can mention this Iran nuke business without stressing that Iran having a nuke would be a security threat to … that’s right … ISRAEL. So, Paul’s position is that ISRAEL should see to its own national security.

    A President Paul refusing to nuke Iran for Israel, is far different from your original claim that “he WANTS Iran to have a nuke.” Stop lying.

  • CrownCouncilof13

    Look at all these people working hard to start up this nasty ass rumor about Dr. Paul. You are the cancer killing America. When you wake up in 20 years with nothing but a welfare card and a job you must work don't piss on Ron Paul's grave. He warned you as he did twenty years ago. #occupyrothshilds

  • mlcblog

    Ron Paul is so obviously a leftist cloaked in JBS clothing that it amazes me! Deranged, as one savant said today.

    • laughing@you

      mlcblog,

      please explain “leftist” and “JBS.” Thanks.

      • mlcblog

        Just to help you out, I'll take the time.

        It is well known lingo.

  • Mr Right

    It used to be, in America, when people talked about the political left and right, they were talking about the founding ideals (right) versus those who wanted to steer America away from those ideals (left).

    Eventual, as America was dragged further from our founding ideals, people started talking about left and right as status quo (right) versus any change (left).

    The problem comes when America has strayed so far from its founding principles that what was once considered radicalism is now the status quo (right), while what was previously right (firm adherence to our founding documents, and the principles embodied in them) is now considered radical (left).

    The lunatics are running the asylum, people. It’s time to put the doctor in charge.

    If you love America, as it was intended, vote for Dr Ron Paul.

    • keefers42

      you ron paul people are just as bad AS THE OBAMA FOOLSsee the truth in front of you and still not see it

  • Rachel Corrie

    Then, can we infer from your post that YOU support her murderers?

  • Rachel Corrie

    That’s your spin. The Israeli government’s official position is that she was an innocent American girl who was duped by a humanitarian organization which acted as a front for “pro-palestinian groups,” and that the events leading to her death were a “series of unfortunate incidents” — which is also government spin and double-talk.

    The fact of the matter is that the Israeli government is in the habit of bulldozing the homes of Palestinians with women and children still inside. The Israeli government uses IDF soldiers as bulldozer operators, for such operations, and justifies its actions under its “zero tolerance” program, that allows the government to “discourage terrorism” by destroying the homes of accused terrorists, along with the homes of friends and relatives of the accused, or anyone else who ever provided shelter to the accused, regardless of the length of the stay, and without regard to whether the residents of these homes had any knowledge of the accused’s suspected “plans.” The military gives no advance notice of its intent to the residents, and has demonstrated, through a long blood trail, its indifference to whether the homes are occupied when they are destroyed.

    Of course the this particular policy of the Israeli government has less to do with the war on terror than it does with the governments’ goal of depopulating the area of Palestinians and their homes. Rachel was (perhaps foolishly) acting as a human shield, mistakenly believing she could save a few families’ homes, because Israeli forces wouldn’t dare kill an American girl as callously as they do Palestinians; she was dead wrong.

    idiot said: “mah29001 says:
    January 5, 2012 at 1:13 am
    This is from someone who doesn’t mind supporting someone who died for
    Palestinian terrorists.”

  • http://www.texasuncensored.blogspot.com DS Holter

    Soros is not backing Ron Paul's campaign, where's the money? His donations are from the citizens, and active military double the other candidates combined.

  • Angelo S

    Time to start connecting the CFR dots for everyone.

    Glenn Beck was a coworker of columnist Charles Krauthammer (CFR)who were/are both employees of Roger Ailes (CFR) who works for Rupert Murdoch (CFR) who, like Rush Limbaugh (CFR) makes money blasting figures like George Soros (CFR), Hillary Clinton (CFR), and Barack Obama (CFR).

    How do you like that coalition?

  • Barracuda Trader

    I once ate in a small restaurant where it just so happened Tom Hanks was eating dinner with his family– just because we chose to eat at the same restaurant, at the same time, does not mean that I ate dinner with Tom Hanks.

    Alexander Hamilton was for BIG government and certainly not on the same page as Thomas Jefferson but there were however issues that they agreed upon. Just because Paul signed on to a military cut that Soros may have wanted to back too doesn't mean they are in cahoots. All the other history of Ron Paul's voting record should prove this.

    • Dave Head

      Good example with Hamilton and Jefferson. They were both cabinet members under George Washington, and worked side-by-side, but definitely did NOT see eye to eye.

      And you know what?

      Even if it’s true Paul “worked with” Soros-funded people, I will still support him. I agree with 95% of Mr. Paul’s positions which is better than the ~20% agreement I have with Romney or Santorum or Gingrich. I will STILL vote for Paul when the time comes

      .

      • Dave Head

        Mr. Paul also succeeded in auditing the private central bank called the Fed, which is the first time in histry that ever happened. I figure that cancels-out any negative comments about his “soros” connections – which is basically invalid (argument by association is never accepted in a formal debate).

        .

  • piminela_a_lira

    Ron Paul is a great American. Soros isn't. I think Soros' reasons are different than Ron Paul's. Soros is trying to do his bidding overseas, and he has his hands in the pots of Azerbaijan (secretly working with finance minister Samir Sharifov) and now Myanmar/Burma. The image is now that Soros is doing our bidding overseas, which is awful.

  • Dave Head

    “slashed defense” is nonsense.

    The 2nd largest budget after the U.S. is Russia at 90 billion. Our is ~550 billion. So even with the so-called cuts. we still have a military that is at least 6 times larger than anybody else.

    We don’t need that. All we need is ~100 billion plus a couple aircraft carriers patrolling our Pacific and Atlantic coasts… ready to shoot down anybody who would be stupid enough to attack us. That is the plan Paul has published (except his budget says 300 billion).

  • RogueGovernment

    Not finding the Huffington Post article.

  • ShillCommittee

    FrontPage Mag: Yellow Journalism at it's finest.

  • Truth IN Unity

    Wow , its an ugly shame how STUPID AMERICA IS! This article proves Ron Paul is dealing with Communists!

    George Soros!!???????

    How does anything cancel that out ???????? Commit to some research for Gods sake. Do not let this man become president! Quit voting for the enemy!
    Ron Paul is your enemy!

    Ron Paul’s wife and daughter have had dealings with the Occult and freemasonry aka Luciferianism.(Eastern Star)

    He has demon written all over him. He is TRICKING YOU!
    WAKE UP!