Suicide as a Jewish Value

Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is a New York writer focusing on radical Islam. He is completing a book on the international challenges America faces in the 21st century.


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A month ago, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz sat down with the host of a Jewish television channel and could not name any reason for Jews to vote for Obama except for his support for abortion. Which is to say that the favorite muppet of the Democratic Party could not think of any reason to support B.O. except a mutual commitment that fewer Jews be born.

It is a little-known fact that Margaret Sanger, that pioneer of eugenic solutions to “racial, political, and social problems,” began by targeting Jews, opening her first center in Brownsville, Brooklyn, complete with Yiddish and Italian flyers, aiming for the two immigrant groups whose high reproduction rates were considered a social problem.

Abortion as a liberal Jewish value has been a stunning success. In New York City, where Sanger first set up shop, 74 percent of all Jewish children are members of the traditionalist Orthodox religious group. Liberal Jews are already panicking over the prospect of a future Jewish population in New York City that is staunchly conservative and religious.

A recent survey of New York City Jews also shows a nearly even split between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama. 46 percent of New York Jews are planning to vote against Obama, and a majority of New York City Jews think that Romney would be better at fixing the economy than B.O. But it is only to be expected that the group for whom abortion isn’t a Jewish value would come to outnumber the group for whom abortion is a Jewish value.

The problem with values is that you have to live with their consequences. When your values dictate that terrorists deserve all the protections of the civilian justice system, then you have to be ready to live with the explosions. If your values dictate minimal population growth, then you have to accept the consequences of extinction. Values that are contrary to survival carry their own natural cost. And when your values are at odds with your interests, then your values might as well be an open window, a loaded revolver or a dose of strychnine.

Liberal Jews like to talk about Jewish values rather than Jewish interests, because their values are incompatible with Jewish interests — even as a matter of simple survival. The usual liberal grab bag of values that are represented by the Jewish hand puppets of liberalism, like Wasserman-Schultz, aren’t just alien, they threaten the basic survival of the Jewish People.

When asked to justify what interests the Democratic Party and American Jews have in common, the Jewish liberal dives into a copy of the New York Times and comes up with illegal immigration, abortion, gay rights and support for peace in the Middle East.

That list of liberal Jewish values not only fails to align with a single Jewish interest, but each of them threatens Jewish interests… that is if survival is to be considered a Jewish interest.

Peace in the Middle East means aborting Israel, dissecting it into small pieces and repeating the process until there is no country left. It’s another case of liberal Jews trying to do to Israel what they have already done to themselves. To believe that pressuring Israel into making a non-stop roll of concessions to Muslim terrorists is a Jewish value is to believe that suicide is a Jewish value.

Illegal immigration, a cause that virtually every major Jewish organization has signed on to, means the mass migration of Mexicans to the United States. The ADL’s own survey shows that nearly half of foreign-born Latinos rate as strongly anti-Semitic, over three times the rate of white Americans. (Bad news for the glorious civil rights alliance; the ADL’s strongly anti-Semitic ratings are 12 percent for white Americans, 35 percent for African-Americans and 44 percent for foreign-born Latinos.) The only way to make sense of this is that liberal Jewish groups believe that increasing anti-Semitism in America is actually a Jewish value.

But liberals of all creeds need more Mexican illegal aliens and immigrants from all across the Third World to compensate for the good work of Sanger. Liberal Christians fear the reproduction rates of Conservative Christians as liberal Jews fear the reproduction rates of Orthodox Jews. The only way out of the demographic race is to import “ringers” who will have the children that they won’t. The new eugenics is political eugenics. Birth control is no longer for the people that Sanger considered the “unfit”; they’re valued now for their reproductive rates which help the “fit” stay in power.

Growing anti-Semitism is a small price to pay for the liberal values of having people like Debbie Wasserman-Schultz sitting in Congress instead of selling tie-dyed t-shirts and hand-painted seashell bongs in a flea market. And like all the wages of liberalism, the price for it isn’t paid by the people on top, but by those at the bottom: Those Jews living next to the 44 percent in New York City or on farms in the West Bank within firing range of their Palestinian Muslim peace partners. The Jews whom Sanger and Schultz consider “unfit.”

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  • Rivkah F.

    Many Jews are ignorant of their religion. Abortions are allowed only if the mother's life is in grave–mortal– danger. Birth control pills and i.u.d.'s are allowed.. But the notion that Judaism permits abortion on demand (euphemistically called "reproductive rights") is completely wrong. Yet so many Jewish liberals, like Wasserman-Schultz, have stated that abortion rights are part of the Jewish religion that it has become commonplace even though it is wrong. The article is right because as far as the continuity of the Jews, and therefore, of Judaism, advocating abortion on demand is tantamount to advocating suicide.

    • Drew

      Sort of like saying "sacrificing your babies to Moloch is part of Jewish religion". As in the days of the prophets, it's still happening today but in the guise of 21st century convenience and self-centeredness.

      You have pointed out the absurdity of it all.

      • Michael Ejercito

        Abortion is about compassion, did you not know? After all, if teenage girls get pregnant as a result of someone squirting cum in their vaginas, they might not be able to fit into that cute dress they want to wear to the prom.

  • kafir4life

    It's a damn shame that Mrs. Obama and DWS's mothers didn't take advantage of the services provided by Ms. Sanger.

    • WildJew

      There have always been false (lying) prophets like Wasserman Schutz and Barack Obama. It is up to the Jewish people and the American people to distinguish truth from falsehood. If polls are accurate, we aren't doing so well.

  • oldtimer

    DWS is crazy.

    • BS77

      at the very least DWS needs something done with her hair…..

  • Schlomotion

    Mr. Greenfield is already on record for hating the schwartzers. In this piece, he comes out as pro-life and as a hater of Hispanics. This fits in nicely with the general trend at Frontpage of supporting British skinhead hooligans, Dutch crypto-nazis, deep-southern neo-Confederates, fighting for more global warming, declaring their solidarity with Evangelical Christians, and endorsing Benny Hinn and John Hagee. Mr. Glazov is now covering the dangers of magnets. When are the articles on HAARP and the great Fluoride Conspiracy coming out?

    • WildJew

      How do you know he was not pro-life before he wrote this piece?

      • Schlomotion

        Is this supposed to be fellowship journalism: "Wasserman-Schultz sitting in Congress instead of selling tie-dyed t-shirts and hand-painted seashell bongs in a flea market." What about saying "Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and then proceeding to write a polemic against Margaret Sanger?

        • rebel

          You are a sick intercourse.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          And how does that show the author was not pro-life before writing this piece?

          You never answer the question, you dance around issues.

    • Larry

      Go away you anti-Semitic piece of worm castings. For a piece of garbage like you to try the trash talking above is one of the great pieces of hypocrisy.

      Happy eternal nakba.

    • PaulRevereNow

      And who are you on record as supporting? Eva Braun, Ernst Hanfstaengl, and David Irving. I support Edward James Olmos; he's a good actor.

    • CHOI

      And YOU,TROLL,ALWAYS COMES OFF AS A JEW-HATING POS!

    • Rifleman

      The Schlomo doth protest too much. Quit projecting Schlomo, not wanting Hispanics to be above the law, and not wanting immigration used as a weapon isn't hate.

    • CHOI

      THE HATER HERE IS A JEW-HATING TROLL,Y.O.U!

    • Ghostwriter

      So says Schlomotion,Jew hater #1.

    • BS77

      schlo brain got some DDT , PCBs or mercury and lead mixed up in his DNA……tragic case.

    • Foolster41

      Cryptonazis? Skinhead Holigins? This magazine has NEVER supported nazism, and even I remember it condemning them (after all, Nazis hate Jews, and this magazine is distinctly pro-isreal, so this charge makes even less sense!) Truth is not on your side, so all you can do is smear, which just shows how little truth you have.

  • Danny

    "In Israel and America, the proponents of Jewish suicide are successfully wiping themselves out, while the proponents of Jewish survival are filling up cradles. The race between the Jewish values of Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and their values is already being won."

    Since Greenfield looks upon raising a family as more of a weapon in a battle of competing values than as the fulfilling, laborious, joyful endeavor that the rest of us unenlightened souls regard it, it would be interesting to see how the score is shaping up between him and his current object of scorn, just to get an idea of who's actually winning.

    Debbie Wasserman-Schultz: 3 children
    Daniel Greenfield: 0?

    uh-oh.

    • Bert

      DWS may have her three children but they are still on the road to extinction. Many of these Jews are also converting to be Christians or to be total atheists. I have even heard of ultra leftist Jewish couples deciding to have NO children as their contribution to the problem of overpopulation.

      • Danny

        Blessed are the atheists, for they shall inherit the earth after the religious nuts have blown each other to bits.

        • HoR_Emperor

          Nah, the believers have more kids on average, they'll out-breed you long before they bump each other off.

        • Kufar Dawg

          You really think the islamonazis are going to give atheists a pass? Do you think atheists are somehow above, or beneath islamofascist persecution? You do know one of the first groups to be disappeared in the Islamic Revolution in Iran were Communists right?

          • Danny

            Well, you convinced me. I'm off to the 21st century Crusades.

            Holy mackerel!!!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Tell Daniel Pearl hello, you'll probably get the same treatment when your number comes up.

          • Danny

            You're right. I'm not going on the Crusades. I'll let you go instead.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            The Byzantine citizens that stayed behind didn't end up any safer than those fighting off the muslims.

            You fail to learn from history, I just hope you realize what that means.

          • patriothere

            You fail to learn that the byzantine empire saw the jews as a problem. Not muslims.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yet it was the muslims that conquered it.
            That's the problem with your iranian centric talking points.

            You just never follow the facts.

          • Kufar Dawg

            Move to a muslo-nazi state then sunshine. Enjoy the freedoms and liberties not practiced in any of 'em. Njoy!

          • Danny

            Huh?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Easily confused? You must be a liberal.

          • Danny

            See, the way it works is: you state an opinion, I state an opposing opinion, you point out where you think I'm wrong, I defend my position and point out where I think you're wrong, you defend your position, and on it goes.

            Another way of doing it would be to make statements that have no bearing on what the other guy is saying. This is the preferred method at insane asylums.

            Or on FPM.

          • Amused

            LOLOL….you noticed that too eh Danny …lolololol….it's S.O.P around here .Especially with the two jerks you are presently attempting a coherent argument with .

          • amused

            And that peanut-brained remark about " getting what Daniel Pearl got " ??? Oh that's so you rogobot .
            Carefull you're contempt for jews is starting to show . Bet you got that video saved in your favorites eh ?

          • Amused

            Hey Danny , want a bigger laugh ? Read Schmucko's profile .

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            That's your opinion. MIne is that you have been doing a lot of diving.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmrivZC_G6Y

    • WildJew

      Your argument reminds me of the one whereby a leader has no right to order men into battle unless the leader himself actually fought in a war. One of the first commandments in the Bible is to be fruitful and multiply. Not everyone has been blessed with the ability to fulfill the commandment, but nonetheless recognize its value. It seems to me even though Debbie Wasserman Schultz, like other feminists, has children I do not see that she recognizes the value of this Torah-based commandment (in her support for abortion) like too many of my fellow Jews that continue to support Obama; sadly.

      • Danny

        "Your argument reminds me of the one whereby a leader has no right to order men into battle unless the leader himself actually fought in a war."

        I for one would like to see that argument codified into law.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          How many clerics use suicide vests? They always find a convenient scape goat to do it for them.

          Any other straw man arguments?

          • Danny

            What exactly did I say that you were replying to? I haven't a clue from your incoherent post.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still the easily confused liberal?

          • Danny

            You really are a moron, aren't you?

          • amused

            LOL….I;ve reached the same conclusion about "wonder boy " …but he's much more …lolol..he gives morons a bad name . Danny , he's damaged goods . You've got him dribbling on his keyboard .

          • amused

            Danny, read schmucko's profile …for a good laugh

          • Amused

            Oh and Rogo-poop , better be carefull , that vicious remark about Daniel Pearl ?
            Starting to show your teeth schmucko? Your contempt for jews is rising to the surface poopsy .

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Oh, really?
            I have contempt for the people who beheaded Mr. Pearl.

            You really are still the parallel profile.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You really are a name caller, aren't you?

          • Kufar Dawg

            I'll bet sixth grade was the longest three years of your life wasn't it?

          • Amused

            oooh look ! a Dawg fight ! ….someone get a bucket of hot water

          • Kufar Dawg

            If you didn't make it to 6th grade you have my condolences Omar.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Do madrassas go that high?

    • Danny

      Oh my goodness. One little snide remark of mine that spawned 56 (57 with this one) replies, almost none of which are even remotely related to my remark.

      Ah, the power of the Internet!

  • κατεργάζομαι

    Secular Humanism is the problem.

    When the State of Israel came into existence in 1948, its leadership proclaimed Israel would become "The Light Unto All Nations" … taken right out of the Old Testament's Book of Isaiah 42:6 & 49:6.

    They should have known better!

    Israel lives in a fanatical neighborhood in which the surrounding (dark) Arabs Nations that are sworn to Israel's total annihilation.

    Leftist, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz is a hate-filled Marxist-LibTard, and a secular humanist Jew that dishonors G-D.

    It's time to start behaving like normal people who recognize their enemy (even if some of those enemies are its own citizens!) and start fighting Fire with Fire.

    • http://www.facebook.com/mensch.keymelon Mensch Keymelon

      That's a hoot…invade using terrorist groups and steal land then claim that you will be the "light of all nations."

      • Ghostwriter

        That's rich,coming from an anti-semite like you,Mensch Keymelon.

      • Drakken

        You might want to look at what Israel has produced versus the islamic sh-tholes that suround it. Yeah I would say that Israel is a light compared to your muslim friends.

        • mburu

          which light has the "jewish state" produced except being a haven of zionist criminals, druglords and women traffickers?????

          is being the country "most friendly to homosexuals" something to be proud of before G-d the all-mighty!

          • Kufar Dawg

            Turkey, the islamofascist pigocracy, is THE sexual slavery capital of Europe/Eurabia. The only women being so enslaved oddly enough are kufars/infidels.

      • Kufar Dawg

        What you describe has been the SOP of islam for the last 1000 years. It's no wonder you're so familiar w/the concept.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        That's a hoot…invade using terrorist groups and steal land then claim that you are the "Religion of Peace."

      • guest

        Hey, Keymelon. It worked for the Saudis who obliterated the Saba tribes and took their land. The Britz approved and recognized the new state of Saudi Arabia in 1932 based on Abdullah's argument that since Britain had recognized Palestine as the Jewish Homeland, the Britz owed it to Adullah to recognized him as the first ruler of an Isamic theocratic monarchy. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Now what Israel needs are honest men and women with the backbone to recognize and enforce international law and expel the arab invaders post haste. If the arabs remaining refuse to pledge allegiance to Israel, out they go, too. The arabs are the invaders and only the cray-Jews and crybabies want to believe otherwise.

  • κατεργάζομαι

    Mr. Greenfield……….."It is a little-known fact that Margaret Sanger, that pioneer of eugenic solutions to “racial, political, and social problems,” began by targeting Jews,"

    NO! The censors have deleted such factual references to Sanger and her literal quotes for over 15 years!

    It is often said the the Arabs have "never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity," which means that whenever they were given an opportunity to improve their situation, they always managed to screw up.

    However, informed persons are most often prohibited from the mention of Sanger. As we are of the many inconvient facts about Rome and Salt Lake. There is apparently no limit to the depths of depravity to which these losers will go…even if it means comparing the brave defenders of Israel to the German Nazis!

    • http://www.facebook.com/mensch.keymelon Mensch Keymelon

      "comparing the brave defenders of Israel to the German Nazis!"

      It's just a matter of fact…they are a mirror image for all but the genocide…ethnic cleansing works just as well for the Zionists.

      Our host here David Horowitz even wrote in support of ethnic cleansing…sad, but true.

      • Ghostwriter

        At least the Israelis are screaming for the blood of Americans like the Palestinians do often!

      • Drakken

        You muslims always whine and cry when us infidels defeat your inbred primitive desert culture.

      • Kufar Dawg

        David Horowitz in all likelihood wasn't interested in ethnic cleansing all gentiles from Israel, probably only
        a distinct subset, possibly the subset that has been and is responsible for the ethnic cleansing of practically every other religion in the Mid-East and N. Africa, in particular Jews.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Euro nazis and Sand nazis.

        1941 The Grand Mufti meets Hitler http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSUEx1cKUlg

        They have a long history.

        Happy Eternal Nakba MK!

      • Foolster41

        "Our host here David Horowitz even wrote in support of ethnic cleansing…sad, but true."
        When and where?

        And the "ethcnic clensing" charge is FALSE. I keep point it out, but you keep repeating this lie. There are Atab Muslims in Iseral who have MORE RIGHTS than in Muslim nations. The walls and checkpoints that "humilliate" the "poor" palastinians are only because of the last 64 years of Genocidal wars started by the Arab Muslim nations aginst Isreal and terorrist attacks. HAMAS preaches genocidal hatred to children even! If Arab Muslims stopped attacking Isreal and promoting genocide, then there would be peace.

        • http://www.facebook.com/mensch.keymelon Mensch Keymelon

          David spoke at a university venue and said those words himself.

          • Foolster41

            "a university venue". That's quite the citation that tells us exactly where and when and what he said!
            I can't even reasonably look up what you're talking about based on such vague information.

          • Kufar Dawg

            Yeah he said in the restroom, I heard it from my cousin's, best-friend's, girlfriend's sister!

    • Ghostwriter

      Correction:
      "At least the Israelis aren't screaming for the blood of Americans like the Palestinians do often!

      • http://www.facebook.com/mensch.keymelon Mensch Keymelon

        Won't fault you for it, I understand you.

    • Amused

      Go get an educattion "mr.cyrillian alphabet. You are UNINFORMED to the point of being a LIAR . Your opening sentence regarding Sanger is niothing less than slander. And WHAT CENSORS ? WHO ? WHERE ? WHEN ?
      Prove your statement .

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        Still a shrill high voiced troll screaming at everyone for the very things that make you so predictable?

  • clarespark

    The Left may use the abortion issue in an opportunistic way, against Israel, and against "fanatical" Rightists.. For instance, the partly Jewish Martha Gellhorn has been undermined by a prominent British Leftist through exposing her three or four abortions, even though It is unlike that her biographer (a Brit) is against "choice." I wrote about that here: http://clarespark.com/2012/08/06/gellhorns-blind-…. "Gellhorn's blind spot on Israel." And one powerful episode on Law and Order Criminal Intent depicted a religious zealot as a murderer of a doctor who performs abortions. The idea being to tar all those who oppose "choice" as dangerous extremists.

  • Asher

    Debbie Wasserman Shultz is the Gift that just keeps on giving in ignorance. So its all about being able to abort babies as to why to vote for Obama…what about the economy, jobs, national security, open borders for illegals, spending and debt on the road to greece, EPA regulations, TSA nightmares, Obama care and its shortcomings? Values, principles, and honor matter and these people represent none of the above. I'll tell you, I have never seen so many ignorant leftwingers in my life. They are off the wall in their attacks and political aspirations in attacking successful, honorable people…..normal people cannot identify with them any more.

  • mrbean

    The left never has learned the meaning of stupid, which is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a defferent result. Appeasement with your enemies results in you being killed or conquered. Jews of the left need to understand that "Never Again" requires that you make your enemies fear you if they won't respect you.

  • Elliott

    In "public" response to clarespark:
    There is NO SUCH THING AS "partially Jewish". You either ARE or you are NOT.
    Please repeat three times a day: JUDAISM IS NOT A CLUB!!!!
    Judaism does NOT seek proselytes.
    To convert to Judaism is VERY DIFFICULT. It can be done, but it ain't easy.
    So once again: you can't be "partially Jewish".
    The basics are: If your Mother is Jewish then you are born into it.
    If you Father is Jewish but your mother isn't : then YOU ARE NOT.
    You converted, via an Orthodox Rabbi? You are then Jewish; but its an uphill STRUGGLE.
    Sorry about being repetitious, but please remember: JUDAISM IS NOT A CLUB.
    It is a RELIGION: the belief in One God, who CREATED the world OUT OF NOTHING.
    He gave the "Torah" to the Jewish Nation; it's full of instructions and commandments – 613 of them.
    So please, no more "He's half-Jewish" – there is no such thing.

    • Pacifist1

      With no disrespect intended; then how would you suggest I define myself?…with a Jewish father, a Jewish name, I look Jewish, talk Jewish, act Jewish, think Jewish (without even studying any Jewish laws) ….I'm from a secular Jewish father, having a Jewish identity…. whom in may ways is similar to Bernie Madoff.

      If I do not learn about my Jewish half, in this age of militant Islamic terrorism… I could put my life in danger… because under fanatical Islamic terrorist laws of the Muslim brotherhood, etc,… I'm a Jew, and thus targeted by them…perhaps, even more then Israelis, because my Jewish heritage may have been involved the House of Rothschild.

      My handwriting style, is even literally exactly like my grandfather's whom was Jewish.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        Yes, and are you the suicidal kind of jew that voted for the muslim heritage of Obama?

        • Pacifist1

          Your question answered my question…thank you…I am a half Jew, and will continue to call myself that until the world thinks of something better…I even asked (kindly) the Jews here… that I'm assuming are mostly Israelis, if they have a better word; I have no ego… so I would not mind calling myself a Jew, half Jew, or a non Jew, if I was given a reasonable answer to my question.

          No, I am not suicidal; but it would be a form of suicide if I did not consider myself, as being a Jew in any way under heritage, or under religion when most of rest of the world considers me to be one; other then the Jews.

          No, I did not vote for Obama or McCain, nor will I vote for Obama or Romney, but I will vote the Democrats locally.

          • Drakken

            Keep being a pacifist and your going to be nothing more than a statistic.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Did you notice how long it took him to say nothing?

            Then that last sentence was tossed in there, he didn't vote against the muslim heritage of obama.

          • Kevin Stowell

            Some folks just don't get out enough, do they?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Or they do, but not in the right circles.

          • Pacifist1

            I did not vote for Obama because I think he is incompetent…I consider him to be half-Muslim, and I consider myself to be half-Jewish…he is a half-Muslim and I am white, and he is black… we both have Irish mothers…I don't care that he has a Muslim heritage, and I don't think he should deny his heritage, because he is a president, or because of social political issues.

            But, I wish he would renounce Marxism, and the Muslim brotherhood terrorists, black terrorist Marxists, and work with the Israelis and the non-militant Muslims, and non-militant blacks and non-militant black Muslims to stop the terrorists; though with that political view he might only get 65% to 75% of the black vote…during the civil rights era, the blacks were split 50 50, one half not wanting the civil rights laws to pass, and the other wanting them passed.

            It cannot be and easy thing for Obama, just as I cannot simply deny my Jewish heritage by simply saying I am not a Jew, a non-Jew, though it may be true spiritually or religiously, it also may not be true, after all is said and done…God knows all.

            For example if I walked into one of these Arab countries that are the neighbors, of the Israelis, and said I was a non-Jew, because of Jewish religious laws, they would probably laugh in my face and possibly kill me; because I would have mistakenly believed, I was not a Jew because both the Jews and the Muslims, say I'm not a target,as a Jew or a Zionist…but in reality I am a half Jew ultra Zionist.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Uh, excuse me. There is no half muslim. Islam isn't a race, it's a forced styled of life.

            Your being jewish is not just religion, it's also a racial designation, so you can be half Jewish. But for you to say Obama is half muslim is like your saying you will half convert to Judaism.

          • Pacifist1

            I guess I understand the gist of what your trying to say; but if I deny my Jewishness that is part of me I would feel like a coward; I'm sure I will be having long conversations with a rabbi over this.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I get the gist of what you're trying to say. You pretend Obama is only half muslim so it shouldn't be a concern.

            Yeah, right.

          • Kufar Dawg

            To say one is half a muslime is as ludicrous as saying someone is half a nazi.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You racist! Oh, that's right islam and nazi'ism isn't a race.

            Well, never mind…..

      • Stern

        I would recommend a visit to a credible Orthodox Rabbi. Unfortunately, if your mother was not Jewish, you are not considered Jewish according to Halachah, Jewish law. However, as other posters have pointed out, you can convert. Because of your lineage, you may find it easier than others, and may experience a bit more of a welcome from said Rabbi.

        I wish you luck.

        • Kufar Dawg

          I believe the Karaite Jews would accept him as one of their own. I believe they recognize patrilineal descent.

        • Pacifist1

          Thank you for your kind answer…I have spoken to what I think was a Reform Rabbi in person years ago, and a Conservative Rabbi over the phone, and he said I was a Jew…I knew that was not factual… but nevertheless, I probably will seek advice from a Orthodox Rabbi… if one will talk with me…about how to sort this out…I think mostly like a Orthodox Jew… I'm not going to convert, but it can't hurt to talk with him.

          I called a synagogue in Rhode Island, and spoke to the President of the synagogue when I was doing research about my family, and he said I was a relative.

          • winston

            Peace pacifist (Oh that all humans could be thus) FACT: You're a jew if you believe in and practice Judaism. The idea that you cannot be a Jew if your mother was not Jewish stems from mystical sources (the female as the embodiment of the Shechinah) and has absolutely nothing to do with with your personal sense of identity and how you live your life. Personally, I think you are better off not associating yourself with any tribe or race because these things are an illusion. We all come from the same place, not that long ago and that place is Africa.

          • Pacifist1

            Thank you: I agree with most of what you say, but I do identify with Jews, because I am half Jewish, I know many more Jews then I do gentiles, in all parts of my life past and present… I will find it helpful to get advice from a Orthodox rabbi..like someone suggested to me, here…but I will not convert unless of course God wishes it so… I like the Orthodox Jews because they think so much like me in their religious beliefs…but, I think we are all born from God, and who knows what country that was in…I don't even know if God seen it as a country with a name, when he created man, and his creatures at the beginning of time.

    • winston

      such tribalism and small-mindedness. Fact is that no two human beings on the planet are farther than 50th cousins apart; most if us are much closer relations. Race does not exist,, at least not traditional notions of it. There is an interesting article as well about a paper (Genetics 2000) showing the results of a dna study done on Jews and Palestinian Arabs. They share 80% of the same chromosomal gene pool if I recall. Cheers

      • Amused

        That's why Jews consider Arabs – cousins . They are indeed .Descendents of Jacob .BTW , Pacifist , you can indeed convert , as you would need to , having only a Jewish father . It's not as hard as one here has claimed . Keep in mind though there are TWO covenants ,Two promises , One for Christians who are gentiles and Jews who followed Christ , and ONE for Jews who follow Torah . Sorry Winston , but save your anthropolgy lessons , it's a given we all descended from one mother , mitochondrial DNA has proved that , and again it is a given all humans are physiologically the SAME , save for only slight and superficial variences of physical appearences . If being a jew is tribalism , then it is one of the oldest , and one which a person can in fact join . Moses led not only Jews out of Egypt , and all who did leave , most of those who were not jews became such , by Faith .in the G_D of Abraham .Descendents of Isaac maintained that faith , while those of Ismael [Arabs ] did not . Those of the arabs who DID , remained jews , while the others accepted other gods and eventually allah the moon god . Later to become Allah of Islam .

        • Amused

          So Winston , if you are agnostic or atheist , you get a pass , otherwise the Jews are G_D's Chosen .
          Chosen People / "tribe " ? Yes . But "chosen race " absolutely not . There are jews in every land , of different races[and I use that term only to describe the general outward appearences facial charctertics , etc ] Race is merely a description of a geneological line peculiar to peoples sharing similar appearences , all leading back to ONE mother .

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            They are a race, they share a common ancestor.

  • YetWave

    Well said, Daniel Greenfield. Survival through strength is the only method by which to perpetuate values. Judaism does not depend upon proselytization and conversion for continuity and growth. Any social or political issue promoting an easy path to reduction in numbers amongst a poulation that comprises less than 1% of the total is a path to extinction.
    The allusion to DWS as a flea market bong peddler gives her too much credit. This cretin could not survive as anything other than a parasitical politician.

  • winston

    The whole left-right paradigm in America is a farce whose lines of division are drawn along non-issues like abortion and gay marriage. (as this post so aptly demonstrates) Obama didn't "Change" a thing! The Secretary of the Treasury remained the same for a reason. (And it wasn't because he was doing such a good job for the American people) Watch LIFTING THE VEIL by Scott Noble and when you're done with that check out THE POWER PRINCIPLE -and the next time you want to quote Winston Churchill because he was just so witty and brave in the face of Nazi aggression remember this is a man who sang the praises of fascism long before the war began.

  • WilliamJamesWard

    Value life and all of it's goodness, eschew evil, sin not and obey the law of God, find faith, peace
    and Savation in Christ Jesus, or see death as a value, yours, your posterity, bad choice that.
    The Mesiah will come and all truth will be revealed, the animus of man put down and finality
    realised at Judgement. Free will, free choice, do good…………………….William

  • mburu

    summary: secular humanism is bad for the jews but good for non-jews??????

  • Amused

    It's amazing what un-educated ignorance believes . And SHAME on you Mr.Greenfield , because you DID get an education . First off Margaret Sanger WAS NOT FOR ABORTION , nor did her PLANNED PARENTHOOD CLINICS PROVIDE ABORTIONS . Dont you know the difference between birth control and abortion ??? And by birth control as far as Sanger was concerned it simply meant CONTRACEPTIVES . You know , the kind that ALL OF YOU righties and lefties alike , use , have used and will continue to use .Or the joke catholics TRY to use – "RYTHM " .Being one of eleven children and watching her own mother die from seven miscarriages and eleven live births ,and watching the poor and immigrants producing families of great size where they could barely feed one child , she sought to give them the option of birth control over BOTCHED ABORTIONS , the suffering death and misery tat they caused , and the utter poverty of large familiies that could not be fed . It was only AFTER her death and ROE v WADE that abortions became an option to women . AND let me qualify my remarks by telling you that I am derad against abortion , but NOT birth control .

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      It's amazing what hate filled bigots believe. You just keep spewing, as if you make sense.

      Word to the wise, you don't.

  • Amused

    So GET AN EDUCATION , before you go denigrating ,and making purposed and ridiculous assumptions regarding Sanger . She in no way struggled for abortion , but for CONTRACEPTION .
    So unless some of you uneducated hypocrites are also celibate , for surely you have used contraceptives or even , the ole' pulling out routine , by religious value there is no difference , you "waste your seed " whether on the ground , in a diaphram , the pill , or in a condum .

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      Multi part rants.

      I wonder why you're posting on weekends, don't you normally just post from your work terminal during the week?

  • Amused

    Winston , I have to laugh when you used the word " remeber " it is neither practiced nor is it in the lexicon of most here ..lolol….for tht matter neither is the word or notion of TRUTH .
    You can put truth under their noses , rub their noses in it , and they will simply lift their heads and repeat the lies you have just proven wrong .

    It's called "spittin'in the wind " Winston old boy .

  • Julian Rapaport

    I see that author get right and obvious point: anybody who run against G-d's commandments will be punished, doomed to fail and eliminate themself. That's a G-d law that He implemented at creation and there is no way to avoid it or cheat the G-d. All failed American Jewish liberal leftist ideology of 20th century proved it and they cut the bench on which they sat. It's time for them to pay prize for damage they did to Jewish people and go away.

  • Kufar Dawg

    Maybe you would prefer a green crescent moon and star? Or maybe a swastika? Maybe Stormfront would be more to your liking? Or how about Inspirations?

  • CHOI

    YOU are a FAKE Patriot and a JEW-HATER.
    You're beginning to look more and more like a TROLL,maybe even an AMERICA-HATING NEO-NAZI TROLL.
    I'll even venture that you have another ,other than USA,3-letter word for our country.
    Oh,and a TRUE Patriot would NOT be AGAINST OUR FRONT-LINE ALLY,you POS!

  • HoR_Emperor

    Says the anti-Semite.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    He's an admitted paid hack.

    6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
    I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mensch.keymelon Mensch Keymelon

    Maybe he doesn't pay attention…FPM is a Zionist support site parading as a political non profit blogg that manifests it's work through Islam bashing.

  • Drakken

    You muslims do a really great job at vilifying yourselves, every bloody day of the week without our infidel help.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mensch.keymelon Mensch Keymelon

    Well you know every society has loose wingnuts…there's always a trusty journalist around digging in the sewer to pick up the muck and put just the right spin on it!

    All this garbage they pump out here isn't reality…reality is dawning while you people are chasing shadows.

  • Drakken

    The reality is you muslims kill in the name of your God forsaken false religion every bloody day and you deny this fact. Get bent hadji.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Have you made up any definitions yet? Just what do you mean when your handler tells you to use those two words?

  • Kufar Dawg

    I'm sure you admire the genocidal aspirations of human excrement like
    Adolph, Nasser, Arafat, the Grand Mufti, Assminijihad et. al.

    Do the world a favor, follow Hitler's lead.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    What have Jews conquered? They had to get UN approval to go back to their homeland.

    And it was the muslims that conquered the Byzantine Empire, even if your iranian talking points don't like it.

    Poor little paid hack troll. Why should anyone take you seriously after you admitted you're just here as a paid job?

    6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
    I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    What fact, have you figured out what those words mean yet?

    Or has your cleric told you to just use them and not worry about it?

  • patriothere

    The jews have conquered most of the world. Not too mention they have conquered most of the 20th century through jewish communism.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Really?

    Oh, you're just precious. Did you lick the windows on the short bus today when they sent you off to school?

  • Kufar Dawg

    I believe there are now proven psychiatric therapies and medications to treat delusional thoughts.

  • Foolster41

    Ha! You mean the 20th century communism in Soviet Russa that persecuted Jews? Really!?

    You mean how Jews conquered the world, but most of the world in the international community demonizes Israel and condemns her but refuses to condemn genocidal terror and war against Israel? Yep! Israel sure has the UN in her pocket! You are delusional, and a Jew-hater. If people left Israel alone, there would be peace. Jew-hatred is NOT patriotic (to the west anyway).

  • Kufar Dawg

    Hitler's lead in terms of what he did in the Fuhrerbunker in 1945.

  • patriothere

    I do admire Nasser and Hitler and Dr. A. The problem is you! You don't. You're part of the problem.

    I just encourage you to NOT follow Baruch Goldsteins lead. Ok?

    How many chinese died during WW2? Do you know? Do you even care ? 60 million!

  • patriothere

    The fact that you are a paid hack troll.

  • patriothere

    You first.

  • patriothere

    Can't argue the facts so you resort to trolling. The head of the world bank isn't a muslim or a seventh day adventist.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And you resort to taking money for saying things.

    6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
    I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    As bad as he is?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    But that's your cut and paste comment. The fact is you already admitted to taking money for your comments here.

    6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
    I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You know there are videos of Hitler in his bunker….
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBO5dh9qrIQ

  • Kufar Dawg

    I don't admire Hitler.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Oh my, and to think in the past you pretended that muslims weren't the problem.

    "I am muslim friendly. No problem there. You should try it some time. There are like a billion of them on this planet and they're not going anywhere and more and more of them are coming to the US to live and work and support America. What's your problem you paid hack troll?"

    Now you're changing your tune.

  • Kufar Dawg

    I'm sure you would like to follow the lead of the Young Turks, or Hitler or the Grand Mufti or Idi Amin. BTW nazitard, your muslime friends killed THOUSANDS on 9-11. The Ft. Hood shooter, the Beltway Sniper were all muslimes as well and I don't notice you condemning their actions Ahmed.

  • patriothere

    Talking about yourself again paid hack?

  • patriothere

    Says the paid hack

  • patriothere

    You know there are books of Hitler escaping to argentine and living there for years.

  • patriothere

    You can't even keep up. How stupid are you? You aren't making any sense. Can't you comprehend? Don't you know how to read? Do you even know what I was talking about?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Nope, it was me. I was saying to the cut and paste hack paid troll.

    Did the fischer price laptop develop another stuxnet type virus or something?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Nope it was me, your admitted to being the paid hack here.

    You really do pretend a lot, don't you?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Nope it wasn't you.

    And we all know you admitted to being paid.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Nope, and not your mother either.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You did say it, see the quote? Nice to see you admitting it's really your words.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    There are books about Iranians not being stupid inbred muslim barbarians. But that's not real either. At least not the ruling mullahs.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Making more sense than you do.

    Oh, the big words. Did they confuse you again?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Nope it was just me. Do you think you have a profile like mine?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You said what you said.

    Don't blame me.
    Paid hack.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Says the paid cut and paste troll.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Says the cut and paste troll, paid for by who in iran I wonder…

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Why is your mom losing customers or something?

    I haven't met her so why do you call her 'my' troll hole?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Why are you trying to set me up with your mom?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    So you do admit they are your words. Finally.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Of course there is.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    I notice once again you were unable to use words that were longer than two syllables.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Were you pretending to make sense?

    Take the lead? Did you mean head? Is this when you start advocating violence? That surah 9 is starting to kick in now, isn't it?

  • Kufar Dawg

    I think patriothere is probably more comfortable with Pharsi, Urdu or Arabic, the guttural languages of islamofascism in the 21st century.

  • Kufar Dawg

    You wrote you admire hitler and nasser, need I write more than that?

  • Kufar Dawg

    I agree islamofascism is a redundancy isn't it Usman?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Why do you keep wanting to set me up with your mom?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    So you admit they are your words, that's an issue. Now, why don't you just quit trying to hide that you're a professional troll here?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    I don't have to, not with you. You get paid to troll here so you leave plenty of garbage to mock.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Trolls are so predictable like that.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Still pretending that as a paid hack you can decide what should be discussed? Why would we want your handler to manipulate things here?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    No, it was run by communists that turned on their own race.

    And it was evil.

  • Foolster41

    Wait, I thought you said you're not an ant-Semite, now you;'re saying it's a desirable trait (thus you're proud to be a jew hater?)?
    Vile! And reported.

  • Kufar Dawg

    Damn you're dumb. Trotsky fled the Soviet Union and was then hunted down and murdered by the NKVD on Stalin's orders. He as an outcast.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    I have. But I can quote you again. You aren't the brightest are you?

    6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
    I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And you defend killers and murderers. Remember the rape victim stoned in Somalia? You said this.

    "If it's the law of the land then it is the law of the land and is right according to their laws. yes."

    So don't you go lecturing anyone about killing.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Did you hear that in your mosque, you know the one you mentioned when you said this?

    "that link says nothing on the subject. I attend the mosque where arguments are proven."

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    When you talk like this?

    1 hour ago @ Frontpage Magazine – Egypt Designates Israe… · 0 replies · 0 points
    "Israel should be destroyed by the rest of the world who hates racism and apartheid."

    Don't lecture me until you make sense yourself.

  • patriothere

    Yeah. Why not debate that issue right there? I say Israel should be wiped off the map. It has no right to exist. Why would jews want the desert when they can be in new york apartments with A/C? And America has no dog in this fight regardless. Let the arabs and the jews kill each other. I could care less about either one of them.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Why, because you as an Iranian think so?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Why do you keep trying to set me up with your mother?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Why do you think he hasn't?

    And speaking of ignorant, did you know anyone hit by that earthquake?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    No they weren't. Why do you make up these things… oh wait. I know you're hack paid troll and that's what your iranian cleric is telling you to post as talking points.

    Never mind.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Why blame me for what you said. It's not my fault you got the talking points wrong.

    And all this cut and paste? Do you get paid the same for that?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Why?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And why don't you quote the last time I defended obama.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    All your comments are. That doesn't stop you.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    So, what would you do with all the Jews in their ancestral homeland? Drive them off into the sea? Or wait until Iran has the bomb?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Yes, even before their proven, like the fact that gravity worked long before it was explained.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    So, you can't quote me as ever supporting him. Do you realize that Obama has very little support for the marxist things he has been doing for his muslim friends?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Why?

    You say outright that Israel should be destroyed without making any provisions for where the people would go, do you think they all should die?