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	<title>Comments on: US Army Colonel Reveals Failure of COIN and Barbarism of Afghans</title>
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		<title>By: Charlie Stover</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charlie Stover]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 14:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really? Like what?  Don&#039;t besmirch with generalities and then hide behind the anonymity of the web.  Harry is a hero who has fought bravely for our country,  Sack up, mister, and state your case with clarity.  Don&#039;t be a coward with your comments.  Charlie Stover. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? Like what?  Don&#039;t besmirch with generalities and then hide behind the anonymity of the web.  Harry is a hero who has fought bravely for our country,  Sack up, mister, and state your case with clarity.  Don&#039;t be a coward with your comments.  Charlie Stover. </p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 14:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too lethal? How can anything that has to do with war be too lethal? If a war machine is too lethal then it no longer a war machine. I learned in Navy Boot Camp, many years ago, that in no matter what capcity I serve the military in I am part of a machine that kills.Whether working in a mess hall, motorpool, flight line or in a line company, as I do now in the Army.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too lethal? How can anything that has to do with war be too lethal? If a war machine is too lethal then it no longer a war machine. I learned in Navy Boot Camp, many years ago, that in no matter what capcity I serve the military in I am part of a machine that kills.Whether working in a mess hall, motorpool, flight line or in a line company, as I do now in the Army.  </p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 16:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All of you are so wrong about this guy. I served under him in the 5th STRYKER BDE. He is a monster who should be in jail for the things he has done!  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of you are so wrong about this guy. I served under him in the 5th STRYKER BDE. He is a monster who should be in jail for the things he has done!  </p>
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		<title>By: H Hawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H Hawkins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...I am simply not familiar with the concept of an infantry brigade being too lethal...&quot;  We desperately need a President who will stand up at his inauguration and repeat this words to the world.  A new policy is needed to only go to war when the Congress agrees, the Nation agrees, and the President is prepared to throw everything on the battlefield we have.  &quot;If you are going to take Vienna, take Vienna!&quot;   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;&#8230;I am simply not familiar with the concept of an infantry brigade being too lethal&#8230;&quot;  We desperately need a President who will stand up at his inauguration and repeat this words to the world.  A new policy is needed to only go to war when the Congress agrees, the Nation agrees, and the President is prepared to throw everything on the battlefield we have.  &quot;If you are going to take Vienna, take Vienna!&quot;   </p>
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		<title>By: Jeff K</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 04:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was a contractor in 02 based in Kabul. 65% of homes in Afghanistan at that time had no toilet facilities, not even an outhouse. They went in vacant lots before dawn to empty their bowels. This was in Kabul. During the day a man could turn to a wall to relieve himself but a woman had to hold it until dark. Consequently Afghan women have the highest incidence of urinary infection in the world. 
 
Roger all on  the illiteracy, pedaphilia, misogyny and the rest. All true statements.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a contractor in 02 based in Kabul. 65% of homes in Afghanistan at that time had no toilet facilities, not even an outhouse. They went in vacant lots before dawn to empty their bowels. This was in Kabul. During the day a man could turn to a wall to relieve himself but a woman had to hold it until dark. Consequently Afghan women have the highest incidence of urinary infection in the world. </p>
<p>Roger all on  the illiteracy, pedaphilia, misogyny and the rest. All true statements.  </p>
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		<title>By: Vicki Dunmire Crowther</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vicki Dunmire Crowther]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 23:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the point he is trying to make with remarks about how they live is that they are uneducated barbarians - hardly capable of the assumption of taking over defense of their own country in any meaningful, lasting way.  Let&#039;s not seize on the minutiae of his observations, rather take them in totality as he is painting a picture of reality on the ground. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the point he is trying to make with remarks about how they live is that they are uneducated barbarians &#8211; hardly capable of the assumption of taking over defense of their own country in any meaningful, lasting way.  Let&#039;s not seize on the minutiae of his observations, rather take them in totality as he is painting a picture of reality on the ground. </p>
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		<title>By: Drakken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 20:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only waty your going to change their primative culture is by the point of a gun, kill all the religious leaders and burn every mosque to the ground, enforce by mailed fist western norms and then you might have a chance. Untill then, the COIN strategy is nothing more than lip service and wishful thinking. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only waty your going to change their primative culture is by the point of a gun, kill all the religious leaders and burn every mosque to the ground, enforce by mailed fist western norms and then you might have a chance. Untill then, the COIN strategy is nothing more than lip service and wishful thinking. </p>
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		<title>By: Drakken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 20:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am afraid you are completely correct, the good Col next assignment will be a basement office in the pentagon. The warriors are be pushed out in favor of the syphophant wishful thinkers, this will not end well.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am afraid you are completely correct, the good Col next assignment will be a basement office in the pentagon. The warriors are be pushed out in favor of the syphophant wishful thinkers, this will not end well.  </p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 20:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They are running him out of the Army... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are running him out of the Army&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: JALU3</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JALU3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 19:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the greatest failures, in my humble opinion, is that during the decade plus we have been there, we have little to nothing in attempting to influence the culture in way that gets the populace to support our policies and our presence (which is there ultimately to benifit their safety and advancement). As the Colonel said, it may not be that they do not like what it is that the Taliban stands for, but how it is delivered. This is a failure rooted in political correctness mindset of cultural relativism. COIN, definitely needs to be a two sided operation, that also incorporates force of arms to neutralize and/or kill the enemy. If we look at successful COIN campaigns, they involved the use of force to either kill the enemy or. To persuade them to lay down their arms and incorporate themselves into the new reality. For instance, see the Philippines. Although there were violations of the Laws of War on both sides, one crutial initiative undertaken by American Forces was the implementation of an education system that supported the efforts and actions of the soldiers in the field. Some of the first American educators were Soldiers. Perhaps we can learn from our past, and from our recent mistakes. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the greatest failures, in my humble opinion, is that during the decade plus we have been there, we have little to nothing in attempting to influence the culture in way that gets the populace to support our policies and our presence (which is there ultimately to benifit their safety and advancement). As the Colonel said, it may not be that they do not like what it is that the Taliban stands for, but how it is delivered. This is a failure rooted in political correctness mindset of cultural relativism. COIN, definitely needs to be a two sided operation, that also incorporates force of arms to neutralize and/or kill the enemy. If we look at successful COIN campaigns, they involved the use of force to either kill the enemy or. To persuade them to lay down their arms and incorporate themselves into the new reality. For instance, see the Philippines. Although there were violations of the Laws of War on both sides, one crutial initiative undertaken by American Forces was the implementation of an education system that supported the efforts and actions of the soldiers in the field. Some of the first American educators were Soldiers. Perhaps we can learn from our past, and from our recent mistakes. </p>
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		<title>By: 2BlueStars</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[2BlueStars]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone who has stepped outside of the wire gets it, however as the article states, you are not allowed to say it! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who has stepped outside of the wire gets it, however as the article states, you are not allowed to say it! </p>
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		<title>By: 2BlueStars</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[2BlueStars]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A great article that articulates what we already know but nobody will speak of!   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great article that articulates what we already know but nobody will speak of!   </p>
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		<title>By: Cynic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cynic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;  He didn’t think insurgencies were defeated by protecting villages and winning over residents through reconstruction and development projects.  &quot;

How right he was.
It seems that the idiots who refuse to acknowledge the tribal/clan culture can try and project their fuzzy/warm feeling ideas onto a 7th century way of life.
Did they for one minute believe that it was impossible that the insurgents came from the very villages the Americans intended to protect, for the greater tribal good?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;  He didn’t think insurgencies were defeated by protecting villages and winning over residents through reconstruction and development projects.  &#8221;</p>
<p>How right he was.<br />
It seems that the idiots who refuse to acknowledge the tribal/clan culture can try and project their fuzzy/warm feeling ideas onto a 7th century way of life.<br />
Did they for one minute believe that it was impossible that the insurgents came from the very villages the Americans intended to protect, for the greater tribal good?</p>
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		<title>By: Stu Sherard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stu Sherard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ernie:  Thanks for your comments.  Well said.  I also think Col Tunnell has it right but will suffer for his comments.  Probably no General Officer in his future.  We have sold out to PC.  Dangerous.  Stu ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ernie:  Thanks for your comments.  Well said.  I also think Col Tunnell has it right but will suffer for his comments.  Probably no General Officer in his future.  We have sold out to PC.  Dangerous.  Stu </p>
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		<title>By: Ernie Webb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ernie Webb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome to the real world, people.  LTC Tony Herbert and I had this same fight with the hierarchy and the politicians in Vietnam -- read his book SOLDIER. When he reported the --then-- 173d Brigade Commander-- then a brigadier general--for trying to cover-up war crimes--- guess who got promoted-- and who got forced out of the army?  Thirty years later, the US Army released all the classified docs and admitted that Herbert had been right all along-- there were multiple war crimes.  Why wait so long t &#039;fess up?  The Army did not want to embarrass the general!!!!! Truth and honor be damned!  How the Afghans live is none of our damned business--- but the weak and corrupt adctions of our own leaders IS OUR BUSINESS--- too many soldiers die and are wounded because our leaders faill to practice proper -- and correct-- combat actions-- a bunch of mothers and fathers owe a debt of thanks to Col Tunnell-- because their sns will come home whole. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the real world, people.  LTC Tony Herbert and I had this same fight with the hierarchy and the politicians in Vietnam &#8212; read his book SOLDIER. When he reported the &#8211;then&#8211; 173d Brigade Commander&#8211; then a brigadier general&#8211;for trying to cover-up war crimes&#8212; guess who got promoted&#8211; and who got forced out of the army?  Thirty years later, the US Army released all the classified docs and admitted that Herbert had been right all along&#8211; there were multiple war crimes.  Why wait so long t &#8216;fess up?  The Army did not want to embarrass the general!!!!! Truth and honor be damned!  How the Afghans live is none of our damned business&#8212; but the weak and corrupt adctions of our own leaders IS OUR BUSINESS&#8212; too many soldiers die and are wounded because our leaders faill to practice proper &#8212; and correct&#8211; combat actions&#8211; a bunch of mothers and fathers owe a debt of thanks to Col Tunnell&#8211; because their sns will come home whole. </p>
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		<title>By: JeremyBeadleshand</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JeremyBeadleshand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I knew that Afghanistan was a disgusting country but I didn&#039;t know That they are so vile as to just turn random rooms in their bases into toilets. I bet even cavemen didn&#039;t live like that. If you&#039;ve ever seen before and after pictures of kabul from the 50s to today You should know it shouldn&#039;t really be that much of a surprise to me How incapable they are of living like humans under their own power. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew that Afghanistan was a disgusting country but I didn&#039;t know That they are so vile as to just turn random rooms in their bases into toilets. I bet even cavemen didn&#039;t live like that. If you&#039;ve ever seen before and after pictures of kabul from the 50s to today You should know it shouldn&#039;t really be that much of a surprise to me How incapable they are of living like humans under their own power. </p>
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		<title>By: joe get</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joe get]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen to that! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen to that! </p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;This we&#039;ll defend&quot;.  He&#039;s Army.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;This we&#039;ll defend&quot;.  He&#039;s Army.  </p>
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		<title>By: Fabio Juliano</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fabio Juliano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 10:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This guy should be the Chairman of the Joint chiefs instead of the despicable politically correct hack Martin Dempsey. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy should be the Chairman of the Joint chiefs instead of the despicable politically correct hack Martin Dempsey. </p>
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		<title>By: Winston Churchill</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Winston Churchill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the US forces are not prepared to fight, as the honorable Colonel Tunnell has so vivdly pointed out, then the US forces should get out of all the countries they are embattled in. It is utterly unethical and immoral to put US forces in harms way because of this self hating pc policy.There is no point having an armed force if it is only pretending to be at war. War requires you kill your enemies before they kill you. It is really that simple. The Colonel should be promoted to General, and when Romney wins the presidency, General Tunnell should unleash a force of fire upon the enemies of the US ,so fierce, not seen since WW2. This is the only way to deal with irrational and barbaric enemies. Their reality is couched in force and might, that they wish to impose over their own people and us &quot;infidels&quot;. If they are crushed they will cower before a resounding US might. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the US forces are not prepared to fight, as the honorable Colonel Tunnell has so vivdly pointed out, then the US forces should get out of all the countries they are embattled in. It is utterly unethical and immoral to put US forces in harms way because of this self hating pc policy.There is no point having an armed force if it is only pretending to be at war. War requires you kill your enemies before they kill you. It is really that simple. The Colonel should be promoted to General, and when Romney wins the presidency, General Tunnell should unleash a force of fire upon the enemies of the US ,so fierce, not seen since WW2. This is the only way to deal with irrational and barbaric enemies. Their reality is couched in force and might, that they wish to impose over their own people and us &quot;infidels&quot;. If they are crushed they will cower before a resounding US might. </p>
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