The High Price of Telling the Truth About Islam

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[Editor’s note: The article below is written by Eric Allen Bell, a filmmaker who was recently banned from blogging at  the “Daily Kos” because he wrote three articles that ran afoul of the mindset there, specifically naming “” as a “terrorist spin control network.” Frontpage invited him to tell his story, which he does below.]

A strange thing happened to me the other day when I was driving past the Federal Building in Los Angeles.  There were a crowd of people assembled there with signs which said that Israel is an aggressive force in the Middle East and that Iran is being picked on.  As I stopped at a red light I heard a man with a mega phone lead the protesters in a chant charging Obama with genocide.  I saw many young people and several Muslim women with their heads covered.  It was an anti-war demonstration that probably a year ago I would have supported.  But although I am not in favor of military action, I know that Iran is not another Iraq, and that in fact there is more going on here than the overly-simplified picture that the protestors were painting, as cars drove by honking in support.  As the light turned green another sign caught my eye – a picture of the Twin Towers burning which read “911 Was an Inside Job”.  As I looked at a sea of Palestinian flags and college kids banging on drums I felt a certain frustration – frustration based on a series of events that have changed my world view.

In the Summer of 2010, having recently escaped Hollywood, CA to take a much needed break from my profession as a film maker, I was driving in my car listening to a story on NPR.  It seems the people in my new home of Murfreesboro, TN were up in arms over the proposed construction of a 53,000 square foot mega mosque, to be built in their small town in the middle of the American Bible Belt.

I listened carefully, to the sound bytes, of those who had shown up to a town hall meeting to voice their opposition and, as someone who was rather new to the South, I was surprised by what I was hearing.   “America is a Christian nation and there is only one God and his name is not Allah and his son is Jesus Christ” and “America is a Christian Nation” and “These Muslims do not share my values and I don’t want them in my backyard”.  Growing up in Southern California, I had never heard anything like this before in my life.  And I started to follow the story with great interest.

On the outer edge of town, off a small country road, there was a large parcel of land, right next door to a Baptist church, with a big sign that read, “Future Home of the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro”.  Over the past 6 months that sign had been defaced twice.  Once it was broken in half and another time the words “Not Welcome” were spray painted over it.

Rutherford County, which includes Murfreesboro, only has a little over 100,000 residents and yet the area boasts nearly 200 Christian churches.  Having not been much of a fan of Islam or Christianity or religion in general (and that’s putting it mildly) I saw this as something of a David vs. Goliath story – with fanatical Evangelicals bullying a peaceful Muslim population, which had been in the community for over 30 years without there ever being any trouble.  And, after learning that in July there was to be a big parade down Main Street to the town square, protesting the construction of this new mosque, I decided someone really needed to make a documentary about this.  And even though I had gone to Murfreesboro to escape the film world for a while, it seemed pretty clear that if I did not document this in a movie, no one else would.  I wanted to show the world what I was seeing.  So I put together a small film crew and began production on a documentary I would title, “Not Welcome”.

I had never seen more American flags assembled together in one place than I had on that hot July morning as the anti-mosque crowd gathered at the base camp to prepare for the parade.  Many of the marchers showed up wearing red, white and blue.  I had 4 cameras covering the event with one crew embedded with the Liberal activists who were going to counter-demonstrate and the rest of the cameras with me, embedded with those who were to march against the mosque.  I conducted several interviews in the school parking lot where locals and those who had driven for hours gathered, prepared to march against what they perceived to be not only a threat to their way of life, but also something of an insult given the events of September 11, 2001.  Two Congressional candidates, both promising to “stop the Islamic training camp” showed up and used this opportunity to campaign, one of whom even gave a speech through a mega phone reminding folks to vote for him if they wanted to stop Sharia Law from coming to Murfreesboro.  The pastor of Baptist church gathered everyone together in prayer, and the parade took off down Main Street with signs that read “Google the Koran” and “Stop Homegrown Terrorism” and someone in the crowd handed out hundreds of small Israeli flags as several hundred Southerners marched against the mosque.

About six months later I had accumulated over 300 hours of footage, interviewing the parade organizer, both Congressional candidates, the Mayor, the Imam at the mosque and several of its board members, numerous concerned residents on both sides of the issue, Muslim residents, city council members, a Christian Zionist lobbyist who was organizing the opposition to the mosque – and I had even filmed weeks of court proceedings, as a local group had filed suit against the County to stop them from issuing any construction permits to the Islamic Center.  The court proceedings were truly a circus with a country lawyer in loud suit with a bow tie argued that Islam is not a religion and that he was prepared to take this matter to the Supreme Court if necessary.  That legal action had failed and failed miserably.  And although many of the townspeople did in fact have a number of very valid concerns, I felt that those whom they had chosen to represent them were not their best foot forward.  In many ways, for the people of Murfreesboro, TN this turned out to be an international embarrassment – given the level of interest from the press.

Also, someone tried to set fire to some construction equipment at the site of the new mosque and the student activist group, calling themselves “Middle Tennesseans for Religious Freedom” put together a candle light vigil where hundreds of townspeople showed up in support of tolerance.  A few young men showed up in a pickup truck and honked their horn repeatedly throughout the vigil.  Their clothes seemed to indicate they had spent the work day hanging drywall.  And when they put up a huge sign in the back of their truck which read “No Mosque” while misspelling the word mosque, I did not hesitate to film them but to also sort of taunt them, in order to provoke a good response on camera.  And I got it.  One of them said we should suspend the Constitution and went on to say that “All them Mooslums should be shipped home” even the ones who were born here.

Adding more fuel to that fire was an incident that took place when I attempted to interview Kevin Fisher at a Tea Party event on the town square.  It was my opinion that in order to avoid accusations of being bigoted, the money interests (a Christian Zionist organization called Proclaiming Justice to the Nations) chose the only person of color, already involved in this issue, to lead the parade and to be a plaintiff in the lawsuit.  Kevin Fisher was an African American college dropout, who worked as a prison guard and became a passionate opponent of the new mosque, after his wife divorced him and became, you guessed it, a Muslim convert.  When I approached him on the square with a crew that included 4 cameras, saying only “Hi, Kevin” he dialed his cell phone and called 9-1-1 saying that he was being “racially harassed”.  This not only made the headlines of the local paper but the incident, including audio from the 9-1-1 call was played over and over that night on the local evening news.  This became something of a running joke, when I was recognized at the grocery store in Murfreesboro for instance, people would often point at me and say, “Hey, stop racially harassing me” and then we would all have a big laugh.  And Islamic blogs such as were only too happy to run an article about how an opponent of the mosque was “playing the race card” against a filmmaker who was just trying to ask questions.

CNN breezed through town and produced a quick hit piece painting all of the mosque opponents as uneducated rednecks and the Islamic community as everyday people who were being wrongly persecuted.  Soledad O’Brien’s producer offered to buy some of my footage from me with the explicit promise that their piece was going to be called “Islam: In America” and would not focus more than a few minutes on Murfreesboro.  After an inside tip that this producer was lying to me, I confronted him and got some rather vague answers.  So I declined to license him any of my material.  And sure enough, the CNN documentary did in fact focus exclusively on Mufreesboro and was called “Unwelcome: The Muslims Next Door”.  Somehow Hollywood, with its usual backstabbing tricks, had managed to find me hiding out in Tennessee.

I had accumulated a lot of good quality footage.  That, combined with the increasing number of physical threats to me personally while filming in large crowds, and death threats that had arrived via email (causing me to look over my shoulder everywhere I went and making it necessary to spend a small fortune on private security) told me it was time.  The writing was on the wall.  It was time for me to leave Murfreesboro, hire a professional Editor and get to work on assembling my footage to create a feature length documentary for theatrical distribution.

Before I go any further, I should mention that, while all of this was happening, I had become involved in the story itself.  I took sides.  I sided with the Islamic community in their legal right to build a house of worship and when I was interviewed by the local papers (it’s not every day that a small town like this has someone shooting a documentary there) when I was asked where I stood on the issue I never hesitated to give my point of view.  And after a time my point of view was sought out by larger newspapers and several local and syndicated radio programs – mostly Conservative and mostly taking issue with my stance.  And I was also invited to write several pieces for Michael Moore’s blog as well.

Although I had left town to edit, there continued to be letters to the editor on a few of the local papers saying that I should leave TN and go back to where I came from.  I could not believe the cartoonish way in which those who opposed the mosque were making their case.  I felt like I was on the right side of this thing – absolutely certain.  But in fact, I was wrong.

Everything I have told you up until now – this version of my story – is exactly how I was seeing things up until something changed.  I went home to Los Angeles, showed my 25 minute short version of the documentary to some distributors and backers, and did the usual dog and pony show that had worked so well to raise funds, for other motion picture projects I had been involved with in the past.  And sure enough someone said they would back the completion of the movie.  It was decided that the focus would be on “the enemy at home” that being what we were calling “Apocalyptic Christianity” (as there was concern about using the word “Zionism” in “Christian Zionism”).  The Murfreesboro issue was to be used as something of a jumping off point to take a look at the expanding influence of the End Times Evangelical lobby in the United States and how they use their influence to manufacture consent for the bombing of oil rich Islamic countries and to influence policy on social issues.  The theme would focus on the problems we have in America, with our own religious lunatic fringe, rather than on a peaceful group of non-Christians who just wanted to build a place of worship.

After writing a few articles for Michael Moore, I also wrote for a liberal blog called Common Dreams and I wrote over a hundred articles for the Daily Kos, a liberal blog so popular that they receive over one million visitors a day.  I felt I was protecting the underdog, going after the bullies.  I really believed that I was on the right side of this thing.

But something kept nagging at me on a gut level.  Something about all of this didn’t quite feel right.  The Arab Spring, which I supported, started to degenerate into the Islamist Winter, and I grew more and more concerned.  I flew back to Nashville to shoot a conference on whether or not Islam was conducive with Democratic Values and on the way to my hotel room I learned that my cab driver was from Egypt.  I asked him how he felt about the fall of Mubarak, a dictator worth over $70 billion dollars while so much of his country was living in poverty and he told me he was concerned.  Concerned?  Wasn’t this good news?  The cab driver was a Coptic Christian and he told me that he feared for his family back home.  “If the Muslims take control, and they will, it will be very dangerous for my parents and my sisters.  I’m scared for them right now”.  After that conversation, I started to pay more attention to the news coming from the Islamic world in the Middle East.

Over the coming months I watched as the Muslim Brotherhood gained political power in Egypt.  I saw that cab driver’s worst fears come true as Coptic Christians were attacked by Islamic mobs.  I saw Tunisia institute Sharia, the brutal Islamic Law.  After Libya fell, the Transitional Council also instituted Islamic Law.  The nuclear armed Islamic government of Pakistan arrested and punished those who cooperated with the United States in killing Osama Bin Laden.  A woman under the Islamic government of Afghanistan faced execution for the crime of being raped.  Similar news stories emerged from Iran.  A man who typed “there is no god” as his Facebook status in Indonesia, the largest Islamic country in the world, was arrested for blasphemy.

Several Muslim men in England were arrested for handing out leaflets to Londoners demanding that homosexuals be executed by hanging for violating Islamic Law with their lifestyle.

And it struck me.  Even though these angry townspeople in Mufreesboro, TN had not articulated their concerns very well, they were only half wrong.  I remember meeting Frank Gaffney and interviewing him in front of the courthouse and asking him if he really thought that the peaceful Muslims here actually presented a real threat to America and he said no.  That caught me off guard so I asked if he really thought it was a credible threat that a community that makes up about one percent of the United States population was just going to suddenly rise up one day and try to take over the country and force Sharia Law onto all of us.  Again he said no.  Then he told me I was asking the wrong questions.  He suggested that I was only looking for answers that would support the conclusions I had already arrived at.  He said he had, after much research, arrived at a different set of conclusions and he challenged me to look a little deeper.  He gave me a report to look at and many, many months later I did look at his report.

It was at this time that I went to my backers and told them that we were not making an honest documentary.  I felt that everything I had put into the 25 minute short version (the one I used to raise the completion funds) was true, but only half true.  It was critical that we also show the very real threats that exist within Islam.  We needed to show that what is happening to these small communities of peaceful Muslims in America are the exception to the rule.  I wanted to show what happens to countries when they gain a Muslim majority, how women are treated, that homosexuals were executed, that free speech did not exist, that the forced Islamic Law was not consistent with Democratic Values – anything and everything I could think of that ought to strike a chord with the Liberal mindset.  And the response I received was, “Eric you are starting to sound like an Islamophobe.  We don’t want to make a movie that promotes fear.  Let’s just stick with the existing plan, okay?”

I fought and I fought.  I showed them a book called “The Truth About Mohammed” but was struck down since the author was a man named Robert Spencer and my backers pointed out that the Southern Poverty Law Center named his “Jihad Watch” site as part of a hate group.  I asked them to watch a documentary called “Islam: What the West Needs to Know” and pointed out that I had researched independently and verified the truth of what was being presented there, but they would not even watch this documentary as they were sure in advance that it was “hate speech” and “propaganda designed to spread fear”.  It probably goes without saying that by now I was very frustrated.  I showed my new backers several verses from the Koran that call for the killing of infidels and was told that these verses were probably being taken out of context.  I showed them a video clip from MEMRI TV of a young Egyptian child reciting a Hadith that calls for the killing of Jews and was told that “you can’t trust MEMRI because they have an agenda”.

I mentioned the popular Islamophobia watchdog site “Loonwatch” and how I had noticed a pattern of deflection all criticisms of radical and violent Islam by calling anyone who publicly raises these concerns a “Loon” and how I felt this was an intentional effort to provide a smoke screen for the terrorists.  I also noted that everything Loonwatch said was in lockstep with the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) and now CAIR was named an unindicted co-conspirator in the prosecution of the Holy Land Foundation – the largest Islamic charity at one time, which was found to be funneling monies to Islamic terrorist organizations.  I also noted that CAIR had ties to both Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood and that Al Qeada had come out of the Muslim Brotherhood.  I expressed my concerns that the Egyptian Imam of the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro might have ties to the MB, something I had failed to properly investigate.  But since CAIR had the support of Glenn Greenwald and Amy Goodman’s show, Democracy Now, I was told that I had my facts all wrong.  It was also pointed out to me that if CAIR was allegedly some kind of terrorist front then why do they still have a special tax status and why are they still around?  When I said I do not know but it was possible that the government might prefer to watch them out in the open rather than risk them going underground I was told that my judgment was sounding less and less clear and that maybe I needed to take a step back from the project for a while.

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  • Jim

    the Koran is a book of directions for creating schools of crime.

    I am glad loon watch has finally become more right wing than Hitler or the KKK.
    Who will be the first to stone his wife.

    Read about Malmo Sweden and how the Muslims prsecuted the Jews there untill they had to leave the town.

    • dave

      Or you can read about Mohammad and the Battle of the Trench. Only Jews that left town were per-pubescent boys and the women (except one).

    • Jake

      I disagree with you on one point, and I see this a lot, and that is identifying Hilter or the KKK as right wing. I would identify right wing as being about individuals and individual liberty. Hiltler and others who promote hate rely on propaganda and mob rule to subvert the rule of law and overpower minority groups, whether they be ethnic, religious or lifestyle oriented. There is obviously a lot of cross pollination between the 2 camps but I really see the left in this country as being largely about using the power of the government to force individuals to support things they oppose.

      • noshariahere

        True. Hitler was the leader of the National "Socialist" party. KKK were Democrats. Why do so few seem to know this ? They had racist posters everywhere, promoted segregation until they switched to blame the right. The first KKK president was a dem. Republicans were formed to abolish slavery.

    • GoneWithTheWind

      The KKK was created by Democrats who felt that Lincoln had deprived them of their right to own slaves. 100% of the South was Democrat with Democrat governors and congressmen until the mid sixties.

      Hitler was a Left wing Socialist.

  • ObamaYoMoma

    Congratulations! You've come a long way, but you still have a long way to go. Trust me, you've only scratched the surface.

    Indeed, everything you described with respect to the Left we have all experienced ourselves countless times.

    • freepeoples


  • Larry

    Congratulations, Mr Bell, on having the intellectual and philosophical integrity to look deeply into a subject and change your views based on research rather than keep on keeping on with the groupthink.

  • sasss31

    I applaud you my friend. I was "born" a Muslim but atheist and while most Iranians are not religious (the regime in Iran has done one thing positive as it has driven religion out of the hearts and minds of the Iranian people; in addition our culture is pre-Islamic) and the apologists of Islamicists instead of looking inside their own societies to see the ills of Islam blame outsiders and too often it is the "Jews" which they scapegoat. You have come a long way intellectually and whether left or right, we need to oppose totalitarianism which is at the root of Islamic ideology. That is one great component of Christopher Hitchens' intellectual honesty as he always opposed totalitarianism and the fascist ideology of Islam despite being on the left. We all as humans must oppose such fascism and oppression.

    • Tom Hanks

      Your comments are moving. I hope the author of the article reads what you have said. I am certain it would bring comfort to him.

    • Earl

      Hitch was most definitely *NOT* on the left.

      • sasss31

        Actually, he was. He was his entire life. He was a "liberal interventionist". He simply had his own brain and was not a liberal douchebag like those extremist anti-Americans you sometimes see on the left.

    • biff1

      Second your sentiments regarding "intellectual honesty" and Christopher Hitchens. Though I did not always agree with his convictions I always looked to his opinion and at times he gave me a fresh perspective. I look forward to your future articles-Good luck.

    • Sol Landet

      It's that true? I heard often about that Iran isn't a true islamic country (it's just ruled by an isamist) and every time an iranian say 'we aren't muslims anymore' make me more a supporter of iranian people!

  • Advocatus

    Eric, kudos for having the courage to move beyond the narrow confines of ideological certainties. Intellectual honesty is a willingness to go where the evidence leads you, even if it means questioning — or god forbid, jettisoning — some of your deeply held beliefs. I should know as I underwent a similar crisis of faith (pardon the pun) a few years back about some cherished liberal shibboleths, including Islam.

    The sad thing is that die-in-the-wool liberals are just as blinkered and bigoted as those risible evangelical nuts they love to excoriate and ridicule. They just have a different set of prejudices. And so it happens that these self-styled champions of human rights explain away any injustice, however wide-ranging, that doesn't fit with their narrow set of ideological priorities. They obfuscate, they insinuate, they insult.

    The rampant oppression of women in the Muslim world? Nah, let's talk about the "glass ceiling" in the West.

    Rabid anti-Semitism in the Arab world? Well, yeah man, that's because of the evil Zionist apartheid state and the Zionist lobby in Washington.

    The blithe oppression of religious minorities in every single Muslim country? Shush shush, why, Muslims were far more tolerant than Christians in the Middle Ages.

    And on the merry-go-round goes.

    • KarshiKhanabad

      So when is our guy Flipnoodle going to weigh in? Maybe Mr. Bell's intellectual horsepower is a little much for our resident Nazi.

      Anyway, congrats to a thinking liberal who has had his road-to-Damascus moment.
      Make some new friends here, Mr. Bell. You sure aren't going to keep any of the old ones.

    • Kusa

      To advocatus: Oh yea, yea, all you can talk is middle-age matters. They were primitive and crazy. They did not recognized who are the Jews or Muslims. They killed them all. Organized religion not knowing the Scriptures!

  • nancy

    you better be looking to the Lord because your life will be in danger now Mr. Bell. That's what happens to anyone who opposes Islam….. the religion of peace.

    • Blaze Pascal

      Lots of prominent people oppose Islam and haven't been harmed. Mind you, it's good to be wary.

      • aspacia

        They have been threatened, and our police are too afraid to do anything about it.

      • KafirDawg

        LOL, You don't think receiving hundreds of death threats from islamonazi apes constitutes
        harm? Brigitte Gabriel, Wafa Sultan and Pat Condell have all received hundreds, if not thousands of death threats from islamonazi apes. Salman Rushdie STILL lives in fear for his life almost TWENTY years after his death fatwah was pronounced.

    • sasss31

      I say he looks to reason and rationality and being smart where he goes and having appropriate protection when necessary. More religious bigotry and nonsense is not necessary.

      • Mark

        Reason, rationality and intelligence are not anathema to religion, nor vice versa. Do I need to list the number of eminent scientists of the past who were Christians, or list several thousand Christian scientists of the present day? Really?

        • Mike

          I think the Jews hold the record there.

          • sasss31

            Mind you, atheist Jews.

          • KafirDawg

            Einstein asserted his belief in G-d, so I know you're not referring to him right?

          • sasss31

            Einstein did not believe in a personal god. He only used that as a metaphor. He regarded all religious belief as childish and irrational.

          • KafirDawg

            Really? "I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings." Or how about: " In the view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognise, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what makes me really angry is that they quote me for support for such views. (The Expanded Quotable Einstein, Princeton University Press, p. 214)"

            Do you want some salt to go w/your serving of crow?

          • sasss31

            Einstein over and over talked about the irrationality of religion. Einstein was getting grilled by some in the U.S. for his non-belief and he made some statements such as the one you posted but in his PRIVATE LETTERS he repeatedly and assuredly detested his non-belief. Here are some quotes just for you:

            "The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."

            -Einstein in a letter to philosopher Eric Gutkind, January 3, 1954

            "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."

            – Albert Einstein, letter to an atheist (1954), quoted in Albert Einstein: The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas & Banesh Hoffman

            "During the youthful period of mankind's spiritual evolution, human fantasy created gods in man's own image who, by the operations of their will were supposed to determine, or at any rate influence, the phenomenal world."

            – Albert Einstein, quoted in: 2000 Years of Disbelief, James Haught

            "I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being."

            – Albert Einstein to Guy H. Raner Jr., Sept. 28, 1949, quoted by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic magazine, Vol. 5, No. 2

            "It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously. I also cannot imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere…. Science has been charged with undermining morality, but the charge is unjust. A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."

            – Albert Einstein, "Religion and Science," New York Times Magazine, November 9, 1930

            "Scientific research is based on the idea that everything that takes place is determined by laws of nature, and therefore this holds for the action of people. For this reason, a research scientist will hardly be inclined to believe that events could be influenced by a prayer, i.e. by a wish addressed to a Supernatural Being."

            – Albert Einstein, 1936, responding to a child who wrote and asked if scientists pray; quoted in: Albert Einstein: The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas & Banesh Hoffmann

            "Nobody, certainly, will deny that the idea of the existence of an omnipotent, just, and omnibeneficent personal God is able to accord man solace, help, and guidance; also, by virtue of its simplicity it is accessible to the most undeveloped mind. But, on the other hand, there are decisive weaknesses attached to this idea in itself, which have been painfully felt since the beginning of history. …"

            – Albert Einstein, Science and Religion (1941)

            Sorry buddy, you fail. Want more? The only time he made that Spinoza comment was to in a response to Rabbi Herbert Goldstein and he was simply giving a metaphor in a time when he was pressured politically and grilled in the press.

          • baelzar

            Einstein was even smarter than I realized.

          • Earl

            Awww, Einstein believed in an impersonal God. But not religion. Puts him in alliance with raging militant atheists who say that anyone who believes in any god whatsoever god is an idiot. Just like the deistic founding fathers who believed in a god, but were against personal religion. They are the best-selling book writer new-atheist heroezes! XOXOXO

          • sasss31

            In reality, Einstein did not believe in religion or any deities. That is the bottom line. He was not an "avowed atheist" but he did not believe in superstitions or fairy stories.

          • KarenSherryBrackett

            Einstein was a idiot!

            Our Founding Fathers meant Freedom of Religion to be the right to study and exercise the precepts of the Bible in Freedom. So no one was bound by law to be a member of the Church of England but to have instead the freedom to choose the denomination in the Christian faith which they preferred. They certainly did not mean to allow the worship of false gods or to tolerate the practice of false teachings.
            Thomas Jefferson knew Muslims were taught to lie and destroy which is why he went to war with them. Jefferson set up the Separation of Church and State because of the Baptist Church. It was a way to protect the government from being over taken by any one denomination of the Church of Christ but not to allow any religion made up from any imagination that came along. In the time of the Founding Fathers, it was simply unimaginable to them that our countrymen would ever follow or worship any God other than the God of the Bible and of His, Son Jesus Christ.

            We need to pack up all Muslims and send them back to Mecca!

          • sasss31

            LMFAO…Einstein was an idiot? LOL

      • aspacia

        sasss, just remember that the Muslim majority lands are very bigoted against any other faith. This is part of Bell's claim.

        • sasss31

          I agree. But my point was simply that being smart and protecting one's self is the smart answer rather than more superstition.

          • KafirDawg

            LOL, how naive. Why don't you spout that theory to the Jews who used to inhabit Iraq, Egyptistan, and Syria? Or the 300,000 Iraqi Christians who have fled Iraqistan? Or the Christians who are being increasingly persecuted in Lebanon? Or the Christians who are being murdered in Nigeria? Then again, I'll bet you couldn't care less when muslimes rape, persecute and murder people of other faiths.

          • sasss31

            I obviously am against Islamic fundamentalism. All you have to do is read what I have previously written on these threads.

          • KafirDawg

            LOL, more idiocy. Islam is fundamentally fascist and anti-semitic, just like nazism.

          • sasss31

            Have I stated otherwise?

          • KafirDawg

            Kinda begs the question of what you meant by "islamic fundamentalism" doesn't it?

  • Lady_Dr

    Welcome to the world of the Politically Incorrect(PI). I'm so glad you have opened your eyes on this issue, and while I don't agree with you on so many things, nor will a lot of other PIs – it is a world where facts, logic, reason, and history prevails, no matter how inarticulate it is sometimes expressed.

    Your integrity is admirable.

    • Edward Moorham

      Politically Incorrect? Yes, Yes, Yes.

      Also Politically Sane/Realistic/Aware/Discerning/Awake/Literate/Informed/Liberated/……………

      We are not the un-dead. We are the un deaf, blind and dumb.

      We are not the UN deaf (to the cries of victims of Islam), the UN blind (to the perverse sadism of Islam) or the UN dumb (too dumb to read the Koran, and look after the future of their children).
      Those 'useful idiots' are traitors to their, and your nation.

      When will the great mass of stupid US luvvies (I just love their food, and they look so exotic, and I know a really nice guy called Mohammed who has never tried to behead me because I'm a kuffar/infidel/unbeliever/son of pigs and apes/offence to Allah by my very existence…….) bloodywell wake TF up?

      I suspect that the majority of US citizens are as perverse and ignorant as the majority of Brits and my fellow Australians are. At least the USA and Oz (that's Australian for Australia) haven't been as afflicted as Europe has by litigation jihad, immigration jihad, political jihad, womb jihad, we're so sensitive that we'll have to kill you if you offend our religion jihad, etc.

      But, 'rust never sleeps', and neither does the cancer of Islam. So, our time is coming unless we fight.

      I can't believe that your people are so stupid as to entertain the notion that propagandists for Islam should be able to tell the vast majority how they should defend their nation, their culture, and their descendants from Islamic terrorism and jihad.

      Your nation seems to want to prove that tolerance of the intolerant is a viable attitude.
      There are more lessons to be learned from history than your (like my) fledgling nation can provide.

      I could go on, but you get the picture.

      Winston Churchill once said "We shall never surrender."

      Liberty or death? A no-brainer.

      Let us fight on proudly as racists, bigots, Islamophobes, infidels, proud to be hated by the despicable, intellectually indefensible Islamists and their moonbatty useful idiot allies, that the cultural Marxism which rules your universities (not to mention your president) produces in prodigious numbers.

      How did your feminists go from bra burning to burqha loving?

      Is there a single feminist who addresses the issue of female genital mutilation? Glass ceiling is more significant than filthy razor used to slash female genitalia, and bug-riddled needle and thread to sew vagina almost closed.
      Are you going from halal to hamas?

      Peace and love (when appropriate)

  • Geneww

    When you study and know truth, the lies becomes obvious! Eric Bell is beginning to discern this difference.
    God authored the Bible [one page proof ] and the Koran is absolutely opposed to everything that God loves and established.
    For our political leaders, it is okay to slaughter Christians and burn Bibles thoughout the Muslim world but do not dare mess with Satan's book and people. Bless that pastor who wished to destroy the Koran while our press and politically correct [wrong] went crazy

    • Blaze Pascal

      The Koran is the exact reverse of the Bible in a number of ways. The Bible stresses God's bounty and freedom. The Koran has a God of iron justice and "slaves" to worship him.

  • Eric Allen Bell

    Please join myself, Jamie Glasov and Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch on Tuesday, Feb. 7th at 11 pm EDT for an online radio discussion on this and other relevant topics at:

    • traeh

      I certainly will.

      As to your documentary. If no one will screen it, I'll still buy the DVD, and so will tons of other people.

      Thank you for your great courage. I'm a centrist with some conservative leanings. I don't mind that you are sort of to the left. The argument between conservatism and social democrats seems trivial by comparison to the struggle for basic human rights like freedom of speech and religion. And you are on the right side as far as that's concerned.

      I don't think a mosque should be stopped on a religious basis, but if a mosque supports a totalitarian political goal, that mosque should be subject to whatever legal and social pressures can be brought to bear within the law, including losing tax exempt status. If the law permits mosques with a totalitarian political agenda to be shut down, I'm for shutting them down.

    • aspacia

      You might want to air this on Savage or another talk radio station. Generally, most people do not listen to talk radio while at home, and neither do I. I will watch a video, or read an article, but only use radio to listen to music.

  • Freepeoples

    Eric Bell,

    Your journey has just begun, I am sure you will fit in in 'the camp of the saints'.

  • vlondo

    "Have I become a Conservative out of all of this? Not really. I still oppose the invasion of Iraq."
    The invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with conservatism.
    "I still feel that all wars should be avoided unless absolutely necessary I still oppose the invasion of Iraq. I still feel that all wars should be avoided unless absolutely necessary. I still think that George W. Bush was one of the worst things to happen to America in my lifetime."
    Many people agree George Bush is not a conservative, and many conservatives belief Bush was bad for America, as bad as Clinton.
    "I still support marriage equality. But I’m also still pro-life. Do you see a trend here? I support human rights and oppose anything which I perceive to be in violation of human rights."
    All l see here is someone who is a little confused about conservatism. Thats fair enough l guess – a great many people think Bush is a conservative. Its unfortunate that things like the invasion of Iraq get mistakenly dumped in the so called conservative camp. Its time we stopped letting the left define conservatives and started doing the defining ourselves.

    • Blaze Pascal

      My friend, I hope you find us conservatives a lot more open and tolerant than you expected.

  • JasonPappas

    Bravo, Eric. There room for disagreement on many issues but there's no reason we can't all join hands in the face of the Islamic threat. Just as there were liberal anti-communists during the Cold War there can and should be liberal anti-Islamists telling the truth about Islam and its influence.

  • Gunner57

    GWB was a liberal which is why his approval rating was so low. He lost the support of most of the Republican base. Democrats hate anybody who is a Republican regardless of their policies. Republicans are more inclined to loathe people for their policies. For the Left, its about power through the Party [Democrat]. I can not forgive GWB for foisting his lie of a "religion of peace" on a then ill informed America.

    Having said that, how can Mr. Bell not see that Barack Obama is the worst thing to EVER happen to our country?

    • Faith

      President Bush did many wonderful things. (I will always love him for helping the people of South Sudan. That free, secular democracy could be a great ally to us, if Obama doesn't continue enable the Islamist regime in Khartoum so that it can finally destroy it.) He had advisors who pushed the "religion on peace" lie on him and convinced him that it was the right thing to do. You are right, though, Obama is the worst thing that ever happened to our country, and he is a polar opposition of George Bush. With all President Bush's liberal proclivities, he LOVES this country and wants what it best for it. Obama wants to destroy it.

      • Faith

        Sorry, I didn't edit that very well. That should be "polar opposite" and "continue TO enable"

  • tagalog

    Mr. Bell, you may not possess a certain kind of mentality or moral view, but the mentality and morality you have has certainly classified you as a conservative in the current culture war. Get used to it.

    Welcome to the world of liberty, open debate, and the free thinker.

    • Blaze Pascal

      He has the integrity to go where the truth takes him. That's conservative.

  • singanewsong

    I started putting up comments to articles on Loonwatch six months ago. Some were deleted others I got into debates and every once in a while I got the Islamophobe idiot response. But I have not backed down. Recently I commented on the article about the NYPD showing of the Third Jihad. This DVD has been out for about 2 years and I have a copy of it and have shown it to many people. I simply brought up that I have a copy of the Muslim Brotherhood document used in the Holy Land Foundation trial. At that point I got hit from all sides, and one person went as far as to call me a radical Christian, anti- Muslim and anti-semetic bigot. He made presumptions about me, my religion and my conservative views. Oh, and of course, I am an Islamophobic bigot and racist. I am not intimidated by this vile rhetoric and will continue to post as long as I'm not bumped off. I watch Loonwatch and compile data. So I say in closing, that "go for it, Eric". The more you and the rest of us speak out and show Islam for what it is, we can be a force against Islam's growing intrusion into our society and culture. Right now I'm involved in getting American Laws in American Courts established in several states. We need to stem the implementation of foreign law being used to settle civil court decisions, which is in opposition to Acticle VI of our Constiitution. So don't be afraid to stand up, speak out and be informed.

    • Boo

      I admire you for being a regular at Loonwatch. You need a strong stomach for that place. I've tried a few times, but after 5 minutes my eye began twitching and I felt myself getting an aneurysm.

    • aspacia

      LOL, I troll on Al Jazeera to rattle their cages. I love trashing Joseph Massad's scholarship.

    • Richard N

      Your approach is exactly the right one, singanewsong. Take the discussion to the 'tolerant liberals' crowd and puncture a few of the orthodox balloons with some reasoned debate. Too often we're visiting our favourite sites, speaking amongst our own and not challenging the opposition.

  • StephenD

    I look forward to seeing your documentary. Perhaps there are others with the balls to show it.
    On another note;
    Everyone here is cheering you for being rational and reasonable and that is the sad story. You exhibit traits that every American, especially those in your business should. For this to be commendable tells us what a frightening state we are in.

  • Samantha

    " I will not back down. I will not be bullied, threatened, coerced or terrorized by the “religion of peace."

    Somehow, those words give me great hope!

  • Flipside

    I tried to give you the benefit if the doubt as I read this, but the idea that you read a paperback or watched a YouTube video that comprehensively changed your worldview overnight just makes this seem like a Conversion Testimonial. The story also conforms to the rules of blog literature including: the blogger MUST triumph over forces much larger, more widespread, and significant than himself.

    • Advocatus

      Not to worry, old chap, no one expects you to entertain even the slightest bit of introspection so do carry on.

  • Mike

    Now that you are awake to one aspect of the left's lies, you will probably find more and more of them. 'Not leftist' does not necessarily equal Right-Wing. The Left's agenda is totalitarian, and as such, they cozy up with any convenient totalitarian ideology. My awakening cost me my marriage, most of my friends and my job, may yours be more pleasant.

    • Rifleman

      Don't feel too bad, if that's all it took to get rid of them, they weren't really your friends.

    • KafirDawg

      I have had the "exact" same response. I nearly lost my job and I definitely lost friends due to my criticism of the religion of peace. I'm surprised I haven't received any muslo-nazi death threats yet, but then again, I'm small fry.

      • fido

        Keep trying! Enough of us small fry and we'll fill media stream with the truth!

  • Whitepeople

    White people are the best

    • clue

      Bug off, troll.

    • HermitLion

      Are albinos included, or are they all freaks of nature?

    • fido

      I was white once – bag of flour over the head – didn't make me best though :-(

  • WhitePeopleAreTrash

    So that goes in but not my other stuff

    • Boo

      Wow, you're an idiot. Your little "racist" test tanked big time.

  • MikeWood

    Eric, as someone who has recently transcended a previously held viewpoint, you could just be in a perfect position to analyse the assumptions and defences of that viewpoint. This is something that needs doing badly, because the liberal/left are so blinkered and bigoted it is very difficult for them to change their minds in the light of the evidence. We need to find fresh avenues with which to approach them. Perhaps you could examine the values (perfectly well-meaning ones I’m sure in many cases) , the emotions and beliefs that stand in the way of liberal-minded people when it comes to facing the reality of Islam. This would be extremely beneficial.

    • Human

      What you've asked Eric to share is really a very very important asset we need to access, in order to address the core issues as to how to make the Left/Liberal guys REALIZE what they THINK TO BE RIGHT is NOT ALWAYS RIGHT…

    • Blaze Pascal

      I'm a conservative and I've been known to change my opinion too.

  • tanstaafl

    "Is life so sweet or peace so dear as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or death!"

    – Patrick Henry

    "If they changeth their Islamic deen (religion), kill them".

    – Mohammed

    "Whose side are you on?"

    – Florence Reese

    • Martin Koschuttnig

      kooraaan 4:89"They wish that you would reject Faith, as they have, and thus be on the same footing: Do not be friends with them until they leave their homes in Allah's Cause. But if they turn back from Islam, becoming renegades, seize them and kill them wherever you find them."

      — "stoned-gawd allah" according to MuuHAMmel —

      just to think this same "deity" a few hundred years earlier send another prophet with the slogan: "..god so loved the world…." the inventor of islam had no clue about Christianity, otherwise he could have said a lot more about "forgive they enemies…"

    • fido

      Pat woulda kicked mohammed's hiney… & probably converted him :-)

  • clarityrising

    Mr. Bell,

    Once you get rid of your false notions of conservatism, you will become a butterfly. Conservatives have done more for Human Rights than any Leftist-Liberal. Conservatives support Human Rights more than any Leftist-Liberal, they just do it with personal integrity and not forced government mandates that do more harm than good. Conservatives work on merit. Conservatives do not yearn for war, but realize that it is sometimes- and unfortunately too many times- necessary, because Leftist tyrants do not understand anything else. You have begun your Great Awakening and except for a few false assumptions, your article was fantastic. After this, I would friend you on facebook any day.

    • Human

      You hit it bang on, right at the nail. Deeply impressed with your views. I'd also love to befriend you on Facebook. How to do that?

    • Human

      I'd also love to befriend you on Facebook. How to do that?

    • dave

      I'm in!

    • ufo42

      That might be true of Goldwater Conservatives, but is clearly not true of Tea Party "Conservatives" The latter are just as crazy as the Islamist terrorists… they just want a fundamentalist christian theocratic tyranny instead of one based on fundamentalist islam.

      • KafirDawg

        Really? Any proof for what I might generously term a theory? I have yet to hear Pat Robertson calling for anyone to be beheaded or stoned to death for adultery or blasphemy or make death threats against anyone defaming Christianity. But please, don't let reality intrude into your world of delusion.

      • baelzar

        The Tea Party has nothing – nothing whatsoever – to do with religion. Anyone who claims otherwise is regurgitating ignorance.

  • Omar

    You have chosen a noble exile – a brave and commendable act.


      Agree with Omar. And I hope you're not appalled by the prospect, but your journey into Conservatism has begun! Many of us were disappointed by G. W. Bush, and Horowitz himself started out further to the Left than you ever were!

      By the way, your description of the reactions of your former backers in Tinseltown captured perfectly mind-numbing smugness of the coastal elites – good job!

  • maria

    I always surprised how was it happened that civilized Germany became Nazists warmonger beast? Now we are wittness how Islam which replicate Nazizm/fashism with their goal for world domination with help of stupied, corrupted Leftist sgo ahead to their goal. Thank you Eric that you had honesty and courage to overcome yourself and your childhood indoctrination. If we not stop Islam here demanding our elected officials to stop first of all islamic immigration we are doomed. And of course Muslim, anti-American BHO is one term president.

  • Guest

    Eric, I hear the "Hamas was democratically elected" shtick fairly often. Its good to remind people that Adolf Hitler was also democratically elected. Its interesting to note that the far left called the lections in Iraq and Afghanistan shams, but show no restraint in applauding the election of Hamas which ran basically unopposed ( people who oppose them tend to dissappear ).

    With your film making credentials, you should pick up where "Fitna" left off. Course to the far left Geert Wilders is the second coming of Aryan Nation. Yet he is to the left of Obama on virtually every social issue except immigration.

    You've also noticed how there is no Flotilla to Syria. That should tell you the mindisght of those who pretend to be in the vanguard of humans rights defense.

    • biff1

      Good point! I had not thought of that, "Flotsam to Israel", and how exposed those totalitarian fools and their," peaceful ideals"are.

  • MethanP

    Mr. A. Bell; It is refreshing to read an article from an honest liberal. You have discovered what many other liberals have discovered. That there IS a leftist agenda, and no dissent shall be tolerated, truth need not aply. I suspect that you are still a liberal. I also suspect that, as Juan Williams has, you shall find more compassion from the consrvatives you once dismissed than from your former friends. And rest assured, they are, or soon will be former. There is a saying, "a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged".
    You've been mugged. I trust it wasn't too painfull. I hope you remain safe. You are finding out your former "friends" aren't very forgiving.

  • Tabris

    People that support Islam or stay within Islam or convert to Islam have deep down an evil heart. There is no way that after knowing the facts of Islam, you can opine it is the religion of a God that wants the best for humanity. Considering the evidence, it is clearly in all aspects a manmade religion. It is devised in a way to keep the mullahs in power and manipulate the minions go to war for them.

    • Howard

      Evil? Well, perhaps. I see them as either weak or duped. Too weak to live a life as anything other than a slave in a society of slaves, or duped into joining the religion without much understanding of it and either too fearful of their co-religionists or too emotionally invested to admit they have made a mistake when they learn of islams darker aspects.

      Either way, beware of false prophets is advice they failed to heed.

    • Martin Koschuttnig

      If you are given the choice to loose your head/life or "remain a Muslims" even if you do NOT share the crap called Islam, now which one will it be?
      Those who converted did so because of lack of knowledge… for them I have no pity…

  • SoCalMike

    Welcome to the club, Eric.
    Leftists have been smearing me as a racist for 30 years ever since I had the audacity to explain to a business law professor that minimum wage laws hurt young black males more than others.
    It's the only thing the mentally conformed can muster when their child-like world views are challenged.

  • 2012

    When an informed person points out the brutality of Islam, the liberals will always responds with the claim that Christianity is or has been much worse. They believe this so absolutely and so militantly and they will not listen to any facts or reason.

    Anyone who is paying attention to the growing violence coming from Islam has got to realize that there must have been a significant amount of violence in the history of Islam. Realizing this requires us to acknowledge that our textbooks have left off some details concerning the history of Islam since there is so little awareness of the violence that must have taken place in Islam’s history. This is easy to explain since we know that orthodox Muslims will kill those who criticize Islam. So it’s always been easier for textbook authors to downplay Islamic history other than to say some good things about Islam.

    Liberals will say, “Islam may be violent, but when it comes to brutality Islam will never catch up to Christianity”, but actually it is inconceivable that Christianity, or Marxism or Fascism or all three of them combined will ever catch up to Islam as far as the pain, death and suffering that Islam has caused.

    • 2012

      Islam always controlled the wholesale slave trade and it is absolutely astounding and incredibly revealing that that we learn nothing about something so significant in our schools. Islam is so brutal that people have always been afraid to talk about how brutal it is. Hundreds of millions of people have been killed or dragged into slavery by Islam, and that’s just looking at slavery and the slave trade. That’s not even considering all the jihad and genocide.

      Christianity began as a mostly peaceful religion, but became violent after the Muslims overran sixty percent of the Christian world…killing millions of Christians. Once the Muslims were finally defeated and pushed back, then came the reformation were Christianity reverted back to the mostly peaceful religion that it started out being. This is not to say that Christianity is perfect or that everything the Christians have done wrong is the fault of the Muslims, but Christianity and Buddhism, and many other religions are merely exploration of who we are. All Religions have committed some violence, but the positive influences of religion should also be considered. If you take away Islam, religion is not a bad thing.

      • KafirDawg

        I've known amoral atheists to say: "…religion flies you into buildings." A gross simplification for the amorally retarded.

  • dave

    The Left are the problem right now, not the Islamists, as they intellectualise and sanitise the Islamist agenda for our consumption, legitimising and vindicating the 'Victim" status that Muslims attach to themselves when explaining Islamic violence.
    But for me, the elephant in the room is the fact that on the whole, the left are completely atheist and detest the concept of 'God' and 'organised religion' and often claim that 'religion causes all the worlds problems'. In particular they hate Judaism in part because it usurped the 'spiritual paganism' they seem to prefer, but more probably because Marx hated Judaism so much and wrote of his hate in his essay, 'On the Jewish question' which is replete with stereotypical Jew hate. The fact they defend Islam and will hear no criticism of it shows the lefts hypocrisy and the fact that they will side with anyone who hates 'the west' as much as they do. This exposes a dangerous mindset and one I rejected a few years ago as they have lost all the moral authority I once believed the left had the monopoly on.

  • LindaRivera

    YES to Human Rights!
    YES to Women's Rights!
    NO to Sharia!


    • biff1

      We are strong because of; minority rights not; majority rules. Plus we got the women!

  • LindaRivera

    The definition of an Islamophobe is a person who believes that:

    ALL people must have human rights
    ALL people must be equal under the law.

    It is because of these beliefs that we are vilified. If we don’t agree with and/or OBEY the never-ending demands Muslim immigrants constantly make on non-Muslims, we are angrily denounced as being anti-Muslim, racists and Islamophobes. What a racket. And how thoroughly despicable.

  • LindaRivera

    Mr. Bell, you mentioned Libya.

    7,000 held in Libya's new reign of fear and torture.

    UN raises concerns of torture and ill-treatment
    Many held simply because they have darker skin

    By Tom Leonard, 24th November 2011

    Thousands of people including women and children are being held illegally and tortured by rebels who helped oust Colonel Gaddafi, according to a UN report.

    President Obama cited the new military doctrine of “Responsibility to Protect” as a justification for bombing Libya. The new military doctrine is extremely frightening for the world's innocents.

    Blacks were SAFE under Gaddafi and did not live under a reign of terror !
    Horrifying atrocities and genocide of Blacks by anti-Gaddafi forces has been going on for many months. ALL of this was made possible by US/NATO who waged war for many months and won the war for the rebels. US/NATO are RESPONSIBLE for rescuing the many thousands of terrified Black men, women and children held captive by cruel monsters. US/NATO must not be so ruthless as to ignore the terrible suffering their military intervention has created. God help the Black people!

  • LindaRivera

    Gaddafi was reformed and cooperating fully with the US and other Western powers. Gaddafi had his picture taken many times with American, British and European leaders. Gaddafi referred to President Obama as his son. Why did US/NATO go to war against Gaddafi and Libya? Gaddafi was fighting against Al-Qaeda.

    Admiral James Stavridis, NATO’s Supreme Allied Commander, Europe, and the commander of the U.S. European Command told the U.S. Senate
    that Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah fighters are among the Libyan rebels
    currently receiving support from the US and its NATO allies. This was
    confirmed by one of the Libyan rebel officers, Abdel-Hakim al-Hasidi, who leads one of the Al-Qaeda units.
    (US Aid to Israel’s Enemies, Oct 13th, 2011, frontpagemag)

    U.S/NATO joined with Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah terrorists to wage relentless war for months. Bombing Libya back to the stone age.
    Barbaric Al Qaeda and Hezbollah who MURDER our troops in Iraq were considered desirable for placing in power in Libya. Making the world a safer place for Muslim terrorists. US/NATO have great guilt in making the world a far more dangerous place.

  • The Hammer

    Bravo! Excellent article. I am glad to see another voice added to the effort to oppose political Islam. It is really sad that so many people practice a religion that was forced on them, eliminating the rich cultures of so many countries. Christianity was forced too, but modernized. What is even sadder is that so many Westerners cannot see the threat of Islam – not an overreaction, but a rational reaction to real events happening today and pushing countries back into theocratic governance. Please continue, Mr. Bell, to voice your opinion. You have my support and admiration!

  • clarityrising

    2012: I’ve made that point often to people when they talk about the Crusades. I point out that if it weren’t for the Muslims, there would not have been an armed sect of the Church; there would not have been Crusaders, Hospitalers et al. I believe as a consequence, the Church became involved in politics and warfare in Medeival Europe, thus forming the basis of the left’s violent fantasies of human rights abuses by said Church.

  • Theophile

    Hi Eric,
    This happened to me when I followed the reunification of Germany hearings, heard Iraq explain the history of Kuwait as a Pacific port for the Allies, and heard the entire world including the US agree that Kuwait was Iraq's, and would return to Iraqi control when Germany's reunification was ratified, in 6 months. Six months later I tuned into "Night Line", and instead of the ratification ceremony, it's "The invasion of Kuwait".
    Now that wasn't the big deal, it came when we heard George Bush Sr. say: "Until Saddam complies with UN Security Council resolution 678 and the preceding 12 resolutions, we will continue to bomb Iraq". I pointed out to my "conservative" Christian American family and friends, that enforcing a "new world order", one world government resolution 666, is something Christians might pay more attention to, particularly when it is followed by "12". I felt like John Foxe(Foxes book of Martyrs) at a Ecumenical convention! In 20/20 year hindsight, how's Americas involvement in Iraq worked out for those Christians there? What did we get for all the cost in lives and money in Iraq? A democracy? Has no one read about Socrates in Plato?
    The "Arab spring" was kicked off with Coptic Christians being Martyred in Egypt, "peaceful(Christian friendly) Muslims" surrounded several Christian churches forming a "Muslim human shield" to protest the bombings, but what was highlighted in the media here, was a political uprising against the Egyptian president. Is it a stretch of the imagination to think democracy might not be such a good idea in Sharia friendly, Muslim majority nations?
    How about Georges other "new world order"? the free trade one, where American workers, making things in America, are forced to compete with laborers in countries that have no EPA, OSHA, Labor boards, living wage, human rights, etc?
    I may not have the end all answer to the cosmological argument, but the evidence Satan's alive and well, is quite compelling. His job is to get man to worship anything in God's creation, including man himself, individually as emperors, movie/sports stars, etc, and collectively, with declarations of human rights, equality, etc. So religion is Satan's main objective to corrupt, and it seems his best deception is convincing the "faithful" to "clean up the infidels" and make this the kind of world the guys with the Priestly Hierarchy Degrees(PHD's) say God wants. Why do so few mention Mohamed's childhood included Nun's? Read Foxes book of Martyrs, to find out how high the price can be for "telling the truth".

  • Mark

    Mr. Bell, I think you're very close to 'conservative'. Be careful not to confuse the RNC or George Bush with conservatism. They are big-government neo-Conservatives, whom limited-government conservatives like to call CINO.

  • kafir4life

    Welcome Mr. Bell. I was a liberal too, then I started paying attention. Good for you!

  • Clive Durdle

    You urgently need to talk to Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Paul Berman!

  • Fr0sty

    One pays a high price today for being anything other than a liberal/progressive bien pensant – just ask the folks at Komen, the Catholic church, any climate scientist who dares to question "warmism," and all the politicians and other public figures regularly branded as racists simply for objecting to the policies of our current president. Our freedoms in this country are eroding day by day. The more we learn to think for ourselves however, the less power the legacy media and the entrenched liberal academia have over us. As a recovering liberal/progressive I know what a painful and frustrating journey it is to learn to come to your own conclusions. It can be a cold and lonely place outside the cocoon.

  • Deshawn

    Yeah well how about you satanic jews, jew enable rs and shabbas goys talk about the high price of telling the truth about jews. Like how you consider non jews to be mere cattle, how you think jesus is boiling in hot semen, how you devils started both world wars, AND how you have been oppressing the Black man since you brought him over on your slave ships and now make money of his god given talent.yeah let’s talk about that, khazar demons.

    • KafirDawg

      Nothing like re-writing history. Muslim Arabs were the slavers of Africa — they captured and sold the slaves to the Europeons as well as keeping some for themselves — including eunuchs. The only legalized slavery being practiced in the 21st century are in the Islamic states of the Sudan and Mauritania.

      BTW, Muhammad was a white man who owned black slaves.

    • JoJoJams

      And Deshawn's comment (as usual) shows the utter moral corruption and betrayal of anything resembling human decency – as well as a lack of any semblance of logical thought – that islam can burn in to it's adherents. Evil. Simply evil.

    • biff1

      Hey this site is for informed -reasonable disagreement .

  • doubleblack4

    So Mr. Bell, after all you said about your conversion to rationality and truth, you still want the Nazis to build their headquarters In Tn.
    You have a way to go.

  • Jack

    You say you are pro human rights and pro-life, but that is a contradiction. Assuming, of course, that women are human.

    • Phil

      Interesting… women have choices, but babies do not…. I'd say that, personally, saving a baby from being murdered in the womb is pretty much pro-human rights., watch it please.

  • dysgenic

    All very laudable, but if you have the courage and independence of mind to say that Judaism is just as bad as Islam, then the excrement will really hit the air conditioning.

    • HermitLion

      I believe you missed the part where he says he wants to say *the truth*, not childish lies of people consumed by hate.

    • KafirDawg

      "Judaism is just as bad as Islam". Really? How many acts of terrorism have been committed by Jews over the last 60 years? How many by muslimes? I rest my case.

  • Bukkdems

    Congratulations Mr. Bell. One of the Left's shibboleths is Christians are equally awful because of the Crusades. At least the Mohammedans lived to tell the story. Islamists never left anyone to tell of their brutality. Women and children were kidnapped. Men were sold into slavery if not slaughtered.

    Other fingerprints of Islam are environmental desertification, consanguineous marriages, slave trading, sex trafficking, raping boys and bestiality.

  • joe

    need a lesson on the crusades their unending mission especially wth western infidel technology obama needs a lesson

  • potb

    Thank you Eric Bell!

  • Jeff

    We must all stay on the fight against the disease known as Islam. If we don't we will wake up someday and it will be too late! Please, everyone, educate yourselves and your children, this is not a race issue, this is not a religious issue, this is a life issue and the future of everything we know & love hangs in the balance. Look at Islam, wherever it is, it dominates and controls without feelings. Its soul purpose is to replace us!!!

    • Robert

      Jeff, I'm in London right now visiting my wife's family who live over here(we live in san francisco). We are staying in Tower Hamlets. I am seeing first hand and with my own eyes the islamization of this area. It is shocking. I would say 50-60% of the people in this part of London are islamic. Very 'edgy' feeling in the air. women in burkas. It is really a shock and a clear picture of what is coming to all of us eventually-unless something dramatic happens to change this

      • Robert

        Here is the whole post:
        I'm in London right now visiting my wife's family who live over here(we live in san francisco). We are staying in Tower Hamlets. I am seeing first hand and with my own eyes the islamization of this area. It is shocking. I would say 50-60% of the people in this part of London are islamic. Very 'edgy' feeling in the air. women in burkas. It is really a shock and a clear picture of what is coming to all of us eventually-unless something dramatic happens to change this, otherwise, inevitable course. very sad and heartbreaking to see but also a normalcy to it, which adds to the sense of how difficult this will be to change.

        • KafirDawg

          And the cancer called Islam spreads. Anyone who doesn't realize it's us or them by now, never will — until the Islamonazism is kicking down their front door w/jackboots.

  • JRK

    It's difficult to fight the good fight. I salute you.

  • Ghostwriter

    Dear Mr. Bell,

    I hope your new film includes the celebrations that the Palestinians did when hearing about 9-11. They danced and sang and passed out candies at the spectacle of three thousand innocent Americans dying. Similar celebrations broke out all over the Muslim world. If that doesn't tell you about the mentality of what we are facing,I don't know what will. I hope you will do this.


  • Suzanne

    Good job. Be brave and keep going in the right direction.

  • kblink45

    Dear Mr. Bell,
    A disturbing truth lies beneath the surface of your revelation: the fountainhead of the left's hypocritical embrace of Islam (mysogynistic, anti-intellectual, etc.) is the its own rabid hatred of Christianity. Though I am not a Christian, I recognize that the crucial difference between modern Christianity and Islam is the former's respect for individual conscience. But the left is ahistorical regarding religion. They do not bother to trace the evolution of freedom of conscience in Christianity. They do not recognize that the civil rights which they selectively champion had their start in Chief Justice Coke's admonition to King James that no man could be coerced to reveal his private conscience.

    But the true nature of the left's love affair with Islam is reflected most glaringly in their hypocritical quasi-religion, environmentalism. The left professes to be reasonable and scientific, but one cannot be both evolutionist and an environmentalist. So why do most scientists (E. O. Wilson is exemplary) embrace the environmentalist fantasy? Because they wish to destroy Christianity, in particular, and any non-progressive (i.e., non-secular) basis for morality, in general.

    • KafirDawg

      I think the leftarded idiots will find that islamofascists don't share power w/kufrs. If it ever comes to pass that the islamofascists do take power, I think the leftarded idiots will experience their own Night of the Long Knives at the hands of the islamofascists.

  • FormerMuslim

    It is refreshing to see Eric see the light about Islam, which is a totalitarian ideology that seeks total control over citizens. It is NOT a religion. Only religions that respect human rights should have the freedom to expand in America, Conquering ideologies what has no respect for human rights should have no respect in America. It is up to us to say NO to Islam, the way it is practiced today.

    • KafirDawg

      Islam wasn't any better in its blood stained past. Muhammad himself was a blood thirsty tyrant, slaver and pedophile who had all his detractors murdered and unbelievers murdered en masse.

  • Francisco Bravo

    Eric, because of David’s background I trusted him as reliable teacher when it came to the Left and I know he is irreplaceable but, perhaps is your turn to inspire people to see Islam and the left for what they are – an ongoing disaster for human kind.

  • Kafir Dawg

    LOL. The concept of "good" muslim has as much validity as the concept of a "good" nazi — because the ideology of both religions is nothing but hate, intolerance and antisemitism.
    Just for the record there are no less than three, "authoritative" hadiths of Islam that call for the extermination of Jews.

  • Western Canadian

    Very impressive. You have a rather large portion of integrity. Which of course, means you are doomed. Hang in man, you are needed.

    • ISAIAH5417

      Genuine integrity dooms no one who is possessed of it. No matter what happens genuine integrity is always coherent. "Live free or die. I regret that I have only one life to give for my country." Integrity rules. Tyranny, despotism & totalitarianism always fail. Always. Evil always wins a few rounds on its way to the Final Destruction. Hang very, very tough.

  • aspacia

    I work in a PC environment, but must hold my tongue as a high school teacher. If a Muslim student whine about what I say, I will be written up.

    However, I do state undisputed facts about what certain faiths claim. Good luck Mr. Bell, and you have my admiration for having the courage of you convictions.

    • KafirDawg

      You don't dare criticise Islam in the workplace anymore, which is why islamonazism is spreading like a cancer, all over the globe.

  • James

    It was rewarding to read about your intellectual questing for a rational reason based understanding of Islam in context. Unfortunately Islamic inroads to the freedoms we have been bequested by past generations who actually fought hard for them thrives on most people not bothering think or using certain dogmas as a prophylactic to escape the chore of thoughtful consideration of the 'facts on the ground'.

  • ews

    I can't parse "free speech of the savagery of a growing mob" Did you
    mean "or"?

  • John MJ

    The most forgotten of all mankind's rights is the right of a man to change his mind. Mr. Bell has exercised that right and thereby reminded us all that it exists.

    Those people who did not want him to change his mind, or to make a properly in depth examination of the Murfeesborough situation, often perceive changing one's mind as weakness or betrayal. However, in this case I would like to ask Mr. Bell if he feels that the people who wanted him to stick to his original concept maybe also wanted him to do that because it would have maximised profits on the original project. In other words, were the original backers heavily inclined to want Mr. Bell to distribute a very one-sided documentary in order to make more money as well as to preserve their left-wing credentials?

  • dumbledoresarmy

    Mr Bell – good article. Thank you in particular for heeding – and taking seriously – your Coptic Christian taxi driver, and for following up on what he told you. I think you owe him. You might even like to consider talking to others like him – and perhaps to non-Muslims (Hindu, Buddhist, Christian) who have fled from places like Pakistan and Bangladesh, and who are also fleeing from places like Malaysia and Indonesia as those places become more strongly Islamified and more and more people push for sharia-in-full. Bear in mind, however, that some who have experienced life inside the lands of Islam as de facto dhimmis can be as deeply in denial about the real extent and agent/s of the abuse they suffered, as any severely-battered spouse or abused child.

    Further thought. Here's a poignant story that might be worth pursuing, and documenting: Albert Elmarry, one of the Canadian citizens killed in NYC on 9/11 was a Coptic Christian who had escaped Egypt to settle in Canada, and then got a job in the USA, in NYC, in the Twin Towers no less. On the strength of that job, enormously pleased with himself, he visited back home and scooped up a beautiful wife (also a Coptic Christian) whom he brought back to live in peace and safety – as he thought – in the USA. They bought the house, they started the baby; and then, when his wife was only two months pregnant, he was killed in the attack on the Twin Towers in 2001. He had fled all the way to the Americas to escape Muslim persecution of his people in his ancestral homeland; and yet he died as a victim of Jihad, in the very heart of what he thought was a place of refuge, where he had begun a new life. Perhaps you could find his wife and child – the child (born March 2002) would be eleven years old – and the two families concerned, and the people he worked for and the church where he worshipped in Egypt and then in Canada and NYC, and use his story as a way of introducing English-speaking westerners to the long tragedy of the Copts, the indigenous non-Muslim people of Egypt, reduced (by 1200 years of Muslim invasion, occupation and oppression) to a minority in their own country – who right now, I fear, are facing nothing less than genocide, to exceed what was done to the Armenians.
    There are so many stories that cry out for a gutsy film-maker to tell them. For that matter, you mentioned Theo Van Gogh – who's doing a doco about him, and about all the others who've been targeted – e.g. Kurt Westergaard, Lars Vilks, Taslima Nasreen, Molly Norris? Do a doco on Islam's denial of free speech – its threats against and murder of critics and 'blasphemers' – and call it 'The Heirs of Asma Bint Marwan'.

    • KafirDawg

      I feel sorry for the family of Albert Elmarry. My condolences to them all, for escaping islamofascism, and then being killed by it, in the land of the free and the brave, run by a government of the corrupt and cowardly.

  • dumbledoresarmy

    Small correction to the above. Albert Elmarry's child, born seven months after its father's death in the Twin Towers, will be turning ten in March this year, not eleven.

  • Larry Linn

    My grandparents had to flee Northern Ireland after death threats because of conflicts between Christian Catholics and Christian Protestants. She was Protestant, and he was Catholic. When I became of age, I volunteered and joined the Army, and I served as an 11B Infantryman. Most of my time in the field was in squad or platoon size operations. When there were conflicts between the South Vietnamese Buddhists and Christian, we would have discussions about what we were fighting for. It always came back to the “Bill of Rights”. To me the most important was “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…”.
    What else did our Founding Fathers have to say about religion?
    "Question with boldness even the existence of a god." – Thomas Jefferson (letter to Peter Carr, 10 August 1787):
    "All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason;
    "Religion and government will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together", James Madison.
    “Lighthouses are more helpful than Churches”, Benjamin Franklin.
    Our Founding Fathers never intended for the United States to be a religious nation.

    • Rhonda

      You are wrong! I'm an atheist and even I know that our nation was founded upon a Judeo/Christian ethic and and values. There are MANY more quotes from our founders which state the very opposite of your presumption. Our country was INDEED meant to be one of Christian faith. In every school verses were taught from the Old Testament and the New Testament. Larry, you haven't been educated enough in our nation's history and I suggest you go back and pick up a copy of the Federalist Papers in which you'll discover that you are wrong. You've obviously picked and chosen your quotes from our Founders which support your notion but these very same men have made statements to the contrary, repeatedly. The sentiment of our Founders has been that our form of government will not be successful without the belief in God. Go back Larry, read more. It's so unfair to assume something without all of the facts. Also, It's true there were provisions in place to prevent favoritism of government toward a particular religion, there are also those to protect religion from the tyranny of government. Islam is not just a religion as we understand in Western culture; it's a political system with laws that govern severely over ever aspect of life. In other words, it's tyrannical. Larry, our Founding Father did indeed intend for the US to become and remain a nation which held the principles of Judeo/Christian values.

  • interesting videos

    Mr. Bell there are Liberal Progressives that are investigating Islam so you are not alone. They are few, but hopefully growing.

    Here is one site that has vast information that you might find interesting. This person is Liberal and social progressive, but is critical of Islam. His videos are a most see;

    I hope you will subscribe to his channel and watch his videos when you can Mr. Bell…good luck and keep telling the truth

  • JDL

    Mr. Bell,

    Thank you for taking the time to search for facts and be open to the results.

    I urge you to research the other Mosque opposition communities for a more balanced American reaction. But you have to understand when one religion is given special privileges over another you are going to piss people off. And different regions respond in different ways from the history they have experienced.

    You have to understand that people are scared right now. If we felt that our govt was looking into the backgrounds and funding of the Mosques and can prove they are not connected to any terrorists or govt takeover plan, like the one the FBI found from the Muslim Brotherhood, ( it could be a different story. When they see the left and the Obama admin favoring CAIR by not applying equal enforcement of the law, what else do you expect people to do when they are being force fed how and what they are supposed to feel?


  • JDL


    How about Muslim countries not allowing Christian churches in their country? Why do we have to give into their so-called religion when they do not allow equal rights and treatment in their countries? Saudi Arabia has been proven to be a major funder of the creeping Sharia and we cannot build a church in their country.

    How can we as Americans allow a so-called religion equal religious status when Islamists are commanded by the Koran to lie to further Islam( taqiyya) , and deny equal human rights under our Constitution?

    When Muslim's, Mexican's, Communist's etc come to America to change it, they will be met with opposition. Most Americans have no problem with legal immigrants that want a better life but when you come here to conquer you will be met with force eventually.

    I have a question also, how do you feel about the hate laws in our country? You know the one where if you are black or gay the law protects you more than a white citizen?

    And if you really want your eyes opened, do a documentary on the media bias by the MSM that is ruining this country. Then move onto the education system, especially the universities.

  • Paul B.

    Loads of integrity and courage. May the Lord protect and guide you, Mr. Bell. I pray much good comes of this excellent chronicle of your awakening.

  • Terence57

    Mr. Bell,
    The support you will receive is as broad as it is deep. Yes, the media are cowards. They do fear more than opinion or ratings. Remember the scene in "Broadway Danny Rose" where Woody Allen is 'standing up for Mr. Danny Kay?' The left is only too happy to appear to be taking a courageous stand against Christian (and any other non-islamic)
    tyranny. Show your work. Promote it to your new, ballsy audience. We will come.

  • Joe

    Hang in there Brother,if left to walk alone then one must get use to the idea that he will die alone and never have voiced what he truly believes in.From reading all that you have written here and the impact you have made on me,you must rest assured that you have made a friend with a spiritual connection. Thank you and keep up the good work and move over Speilberg.Eric Allen Bell will not be forgotten,my prayers are with you…..Joe

  • YetWave

    Well said, Mr. Bell.
    Your odyssey will take you in the direction toward which many of us continue to journey: the light where the ways of islam are shown for the imbecilic, anti-humanistic, hate inducing doctrine spewed from the mouth of a madman that they are.

  • Lily

    Thank you so much Mr.Bell for the wonderful article.

    Contrary to popular liberal and muslim rhetoric ,Conservatives have very little interest in muslims ,their race or ethnicity.We care about the US,it’s safety,future and freedom.

    I disagree about the Murfreesboro mosque.
    I think the community has a right to determine the issue and if the majority are against it,so be it There are other towns that would welcome a mosque.Especially if the muslim community are immigrants or government placements.

    I hope that you continue to educate yourself about the history of Islam and it’s subjugation,slavery,violence and religious intolerance.

  • Call Me Mom

    The truth is a dangerous thing, but well worth having, much like freedom itself. I have been defriended and called a hater on facebook by friends as well as family, for doing no more than posting the truth and defending it with easily verifyable facts.

    I am a conservative and did not approve of much of what Mr. Bush and the democratically controlled Congresses did during his term in office either. Here is another truth for you: conservative does not equal republican.

    May I recommend the movie: "Agenda: Grinding America Down". I have often asked myself which was the bigger threat to our republic – communism or islam? At the moment we are in a two front, ideaological war for the hearts and minds of America. If either socialism of islam wins, America is lost. I intend to do my best to make sure that doesn't happen. I would rather be Churchill than Neimoller, but I intend to do what I may.

    If you are low on facebook friends, you can find my e-mail at my website. I appreciate those who are willing to find the truth-especially when they don't like it.

  • Call Me Mom

    The truth is a dangerous, yet immensely valuable thing, much like freedom. I have been called a hater and unfriended by friends and family on facebook for posting the truth and defending it with easily verifyable facts.

    I am a conservative, but I did not approve of many of the actions of the Bush administration or the democratically controlled Congress at that time. Here is another truth for you: conservative does not equal republican.

    If you find your friends list getting slim on facebook, I value those who are willing to find and stand for the truth-especially when the truth they find is not what they expected or wanted. You can find my e- mail through the link. Best of luck to you Mr. Bell, you'll need it.

  • Vasti

    Eric Bell, respect and good luck!

  • David Barrett

    Now try and convince your local lefties.
    You have 'declared war' on the basis of knowledge and a path well travelled
    Many will not even consider putting a foot on that path – you hae to take their hand and tug gently
    Well read and beautifully written
    Keep up the good work

  • fred dawes

    Muslims are evil but who isn”t we needa world war

  • Nomadic100

    Missing here is some mention as to why this town in Tennessee requires a mammoth mosque. Are there that many Muslims in the area? And who is paying for this mosque? Probably not, but rather the Saudis. If so, the mosque itself is an example of the "Stealth Jihad."

    • Joshua Liner

      Is the argument here that no one should ever purchase something they don't "need"? Is simple wanting never enough? Weird.

      And yes, there are enough Muslims in the Boro that they have outgrown the current mosque. During prayers, half of the penitents have to do it in the parking lot. Get it?

  • ufo42

    Interesting article. I agree with your assessment of Islam, but would like to point out that the christian right fundamentalists and jewish fundamentalist are every bit as anti-freedom and anti-democratic. They haven't got the terrorism bit down yet, but are infiltrating the US government at every level and the US military as fast as their billionaire backers can facilitate them. Fundamentalists of all three of the Abrahamaic religions all have common bits of scripture to point to which justify killing and/or violating the civil rights of non-believers and even believing women. The differences among the various sects (cults) within these religions really just amount to how much they emphasize the nastier passages in their scriptures. It is pretty disheartening to see the unholy alliance between CAIR and liberal unbelieving folk based on the use of the islamaphobe label, but the many inroads the christian right has made based on the blatant lie that the US was founded as a christian nation are just as dangerous to freedom.

    • KafirDawg

      LOL, yeah the "Christian right" is what we all have to fear. I tell you what, why don't you move to ANY islamonazi state, because there you'll never have anything to fear from the "Christian right", or Hindus, or Buddhists, or Bahais, or Jews EVER again.

    • Rhonda

      To ufo42….Um yeah. Where's your proof to back up what you claim about anti-government Jews and Christians!? Sir or madam, I'm an atheist and even I don't believe that cr@p. Name them! Who are they?! What have they done? What do the claim?! Are they like me in that they object to BIG Government? Because if they are, that is NOT the same as anti-government. Anti big government is one which completely comports with the values of our Founding Fathers and our Constitution in that big government equals more control over our lives, more laws, more regulation, higher taxes to support the agencies which now must carry out the enforcement of laws etc. Do you not see the difference. If you have any interest in inquiry I hope you pick up a few history books, the Federalist Papers, "American History In Black & White" and "The 5000 Year Leap". You've been brainwashed by the left and believe now verbatim every untruth the Left throws out to stop the voices of fact. You've been duped as I had been for the first 50 years of my life. Now that I know more facts and real history (instead of the created history the Left dishes out) I'm angry as Hell now and am fighting back!

    • TruthWFree

      ufo42, You need to study the Quran, the Hadiths, and the Sira and compare to the Gospels. There is no teaching of violence in the Gospels but you will find plenty in the Quran, Hadiths, and Sira. No Christian can point to the Gospels to justify his violent actions; Muslims can point to the Quran and do so…see what the underpants bomber said in court, Nidal Hasan at Ft Hood, and Osama bin Ladin and others.
      Islamic teachings begat violence against unbelievers…the Gospels do not.

  • dysgenic

    I don't see that radical Islamists are any more insane than evangelical Christians or neocon Jews, or any more violent and terroristic either.

    • KafirDawg

      Then pack your bags and move to the nearest islamonazi state and enjoy the freedoms and liberties not practiced in ANY of them.

  • safetyputts

    BS! In you're first paragraph you state " I know that Iran is not another Iraq." This statement shows that you have not seen the errors of your ways. So STFU!

  • steven L

    Well come to the world of sanity.
    Every Muslim child who has been brainwashed by Islam, from infancy is a potential time bomb except for the one who has had the chance to be exposed to a diversity of opinion and ideas. That is a small minority.
    Other religious organizations have practiced this brainwashing, but today none are massively fanatical and genocidal.

  • http://TarBaby InTheNameOf

    While the framers of the American constitution saw the wisdom separating church and state, realizing the power of any institution of religion ruling a nation is the most direct route to tyranny, they never rejected the reality that a Code of Morality is crucial to underpin the foundations of a just, fair, and free democratic republic. A society devoid of a moral compass is as susceptible to tyranny as the former. The code of human morality the global view has been attempting to build is easily hijacked because it has taken the wrong-minded path of Rome: attempting to absorb and merge “common values” into a singular Moral standard. The framers of America attempted a different way by embracing the Moral Code espoused by Christianity to be the foundation of the fabric of society. This moral foundation was to be guarded against any religious institution asserting claims of political power under the pretext of being the guardian or sole keeper of that moral code.

    Our current President understands this, and because if his progressive, pro-Islamic values is going to continue with his mission of “change.” He is even now putting the Christian value system into a condition of submission by challenging the Catholics–the easiest institution to expose for flawed foundations by merit of its size, power, and the priveleges it has that an Islamic institution does not here. The con is easy because the moral code is being equated with the institution–exactly what our framers tried to prevent. The merging of church and state is the actual equivalence of any religious institution with the moral code. Islam does it, the Catholic church does it, he will say. And they must be given equal treatment under the law, he will say. Checkmate. Welcome to the wonderful world of Islam.

  • Joshua Liner

    Eric, you take concern with "what happens to countries when they gain a Muslim majority." Fair enough, but exactly how is that connected to the Murfreesboro (and other contested, American) mosque debate(s)? Are you saying that (a) these worries are already present with the Murfreesboro Muslim community—e.g., they treat women and homosexuals poorly, eschew free speech, etc.? or (b) if they don't now, that they will if and when they "gain a majority" there? And if that's not your worry, what is?

    In other words: *Exactly* how were you "on the wrong side" of the mosque debate in TN? I don't see a difference in your data set; you *always* pointed out the bad things some Muslims do around the world. So what do these same facts (or some new readiness on your part to consider them, or to press them against leftists (or whatever)) indicate to you *now* about the merits of either the mosque construction or the side who opposed the construction? I would think this would be something like the main point of your essay, but it isn't articulated.

    * * *

    Also, your line about "the professor" (who is of course Mike P.) infiltrating and recruiting and mentoring is absolute piss. I would challenge you to state exactly in what this mentoring consists, outside the classroom. What sorts of things has Mike said or done vis-a-vis his ostensible "mentees" which describe an assymetrical relationship? I contend his behavior in that group mirrors the behavior of each of the other "mentees" toward him and toward one another. Maybe if you named one of the mentees you have in mind and specified just how Mike recruited them, and what measures he took toward them which could be described as "taking [him] under his wing." (Funny thing is, I've known Mike for 20+ years and have many times urged him to engage in some traditional mentoring. I think we even fought about it once; it just isn’t his approach.)

    Man, search your heart and see if your charge isn't just a matter of simple ageism. Yes, the guy hangs out with younger folks. He's eccentric that way. But a recruiter-mentor, this doesn't make.

  • Lech Dharma

    Welcome to the "Islamaphobe" Club, Eric! The terrifying brilliance of Mohammed's evil genius is how he crafted ISLAM to be a self-propagating, trojan horse virus that transforms a host into an aggressive "carrier" that embraces, defends, and spreads the virus. The only real cure is apostacy.

    Jihadists are using the anti-establishment attitude of young (and old) liberals in this country to advance their global agenda; the term "useful idiots" comes to mind. Kudos to you for stepping out of liberal ideology long enough to realize therampant hypocrisy of the Left when it comes to concepts like free speech and human rights. "Political correctness" is simply "censorship" hidden in a fancy name.

    • Joshua Liner

      Let's assume indeed "the only real cure is apostacy." But then, why assume that the American Muslims in question (say, the ones at the heart of Eric's documentary) are *not* apostates–albeit ones who don't realize it? If Islam is essentially sexist, violent, and all the rest, then by definition, those "Muslims" who are not sexist, violent, etc. and do not themselves accept that Islam is sexist, violent, etc., are poor–which is to say, non-, Muslims. Whether or not they mistakenly claim to be authentically Muslim is immaterial; calling oneself a thing doesn't make it so, right? Let us not make a fetish of self-ascriptions.

  • Lech Dharma

    True: I "think (if I correctly translated what you wrote). For example: Many people "self-identify" as being "Christian"—on some level—but may not know much about Christian doctrine, or ACT like "true" Christians in thire everyday life. Or, they may be "Sunday Christians", that "talk the talk" on Sundays, but don't "walk the walk" the rest of the week.

    Likewise, there are "good" Catholics and "bad" Catholics, and "good" Jews and "bad" Jews, which mainly has to do with whether they religiously "walking the walk" of their respective theological doctrines. HOWEVER, I imagine that ALL self-identifying Muslims believe that Mohammed was the last true prophet of God (Allah), and that the Quran (as "revelealed" to him by the angel Jibril) is the indisputable Word of God….or else they would call themselves something else.

  • KafirDawg

    It's particularly telling to look at what Tamerlane, the great muslime hero, did in the Indian sub-continent. He had hills made of the skulls of the Hindus he had beheaded. When he was told that it was impossible to transport all the Hindu slaves across the Hindu Kush, he said something like: "Well, I can't release them, because they're kufrs, so kill them all." And so it was, Hindu women, children and men were all slaughtered en-mass. The upward bound on the number of Hindus slaughtered by muslo-nazis is ONE HUNDRED MILLION.

  • ISAIAH5417

    Eric Bell! Dude! You got stones! Kinda like catchin a 70-footer at Mavericks when you never surfed in your life. Damn! What will you do now? And can you answer me this: How do you figure the mosque in Murfreesboro is anything other than a enemy installation? I mean, do you really think Islam is a peaceful religion on any level? The Muslims murdered 3000 of our citizens on our own soil and continue in their attempts to kill as many more of us as they can. Islam is a military org fronting as a religion.

  • ISAIAH5417

    Why should an alien military force in America anywhere be allowed to construct installations that will do nothing but facilitate the promulgation of militant Islam tactics and strategies? Thug bosses of Islam exploit their "peaceful worshippers" in EXACTLY the same way thug Democrats and union bosses of the U.S. Democrat Political Party exploit black people and other minorities. There is no difference between the world-view of a Democrat and a militant Islamicist except that the Islamicist is comfortable with deadly force.

  • ISAIAH5417

    You've decided to ride the tiger Eric Bell. You are to be commended for your courage. However your decision to tolerate the intolerance of Islam in ANY form will get you killed. Islamic treatment of Daniel Pearl and Theo Van Gogh should be clue enough. You are in war whether you want to admit or not and there is no place for fine distinctions when considering the overt and wanton love of death and violence exhibited on a global scale by the devotees of Islam. Wise up or pay the price.

    • KafirDawg

      Salman Rushdie is STILL in hiding, a DECADE after his death fatwah was pronounced. Yet even more bizarre is the fact that he has converted to islam, yet the death fatwah still remains in force. I believe the number of kufrs beheaded in the name of Islam in the 21st century numbers more than a dozen.

  • arnica2007

    I have not read the Koran admittedly, and don't have any intention to any more than I have intention to read the Bible in its entirety, I've read enough. I have a great deal of personal experience with Christianity and I've read enough about the Koran to know I just detest anything that insists the Creative Forces of Life are exclusively male and that the Feminine aspect of the Divine must be oppressed. I disagree with any cultural group that insists on dualism with an 'us and them' approach to spirituality of any sort. We are all part of the same fabric. There is no 'us and them', we are all part of the same spirit. Why are we so insistent on looking at the divine in only one way? All is love and divine, not just male ways or ideals, but women and their energies as well. Anyone who says "God is" one thing and "NOT" something else is very short sighted in their views of the Forces of Life. One doesn't need a book to understand 'God'. Don't get involved with a cult (that includes Christianity and Islam), think for yourself! Thank you very much Eric!

  • Tom Hanks

    Let this be a lesson to never ever get close to any far left organization. They are poison. Now you know.

  • Robert Johnson

    Wow, don’t know if I would have the ba.., no, now that I think of it I wouldn’t, bravo.

  • RandomUK

    There are many of us. We are more numerous, in fact, than the left-wing saps.

    We are those that have nothing against an individual for being Islamic, or against freedom of religion. I, for example, am an atheist married to a Turk, whose family are Muslim in the same way that some of my English family and friends are Christian. We are those that do object to demands by Muslims that others live by their standards. we are those that push back against the violence used to back demands. We are the classic liberals (why do we need to say "classic"? How have an illiberal mob commandeered the word "liberal" for authoritarian socialism?) who want to live and let live, but want to live in reality not a fantasy presented to us by propagandists.

    • KafirDawg

      Anything to say about the authoritative, Islamic hadeeths that call for the worldwide
      extermination of Jews sunshine?

  • Charles Martel

    You post is now translated in french :
    USA : le prix à payer pour oser dire la vérité sur l'islam

    Thanks !!

  • Rod Russell

    Well and nobly done. Thank you and God be with you. Looking forward to your documentary.

  • Michelle

    As a conservative, all I would ask of progressives would be to look at things with an open mind and consider many sources, which is exactly what Eric did here. Welcome to Juan Williams' world, where you are expected to toe the line and never deviate from the agenda. What I hope for you, Eric, is to continue to seek the truth on this topic and all others no matter where it takes you.

  • Laurence Almand

    Bravo! I am glad that you have had the courage to make a truthful documentary about the fanaticism that is Islam. Like all religions, Islam is nothing more than mythology, perpetrated by brainwashed fanatics who want to dominate everyone. Liberal do-gooders do not seem to realize what a threat Islam is to freedom and democracy. Let's hope that you and other truthful people will continue to shed light on the subject and not be intimidated into compromising your integrity.

  • denny

    We need more intellectual honesty from both liberals and conservatives, the United States has degenerated into sound bite mentality.

  • jima9426

    D'Alexis de Tocqueville probably said it best in "Democracy in America" when he wrote, “Muhammad brought down from heaven and put into the Koran not religious doctrines only, but political maxims, criminal and civil laws, and scientific theories. The Gospels, on the other hand, deal only with the general relations between man and God and between man and man. Beyond that, they teach nothing and do not oblige people to believe anything. That alone, among a thousand reasons, is enough to show that Islam will not be able to hold its power long in ages of enlightenment and democracy, while Christianity is destined to reign in such ages, as in all others.”

  • Steph

    Well done Eric, go to it! You are on the right path.

  • Elsa_is_Elsa

    Hi Eric, Reading your story I was struck by what a familiar journey you've taken – from accepting the popular view of Islam and Islamophobes, to a radically different view of Islam, the Qu'ran, and organizations like the Muslim Brotherhood, and along with that, a different view of the liberal West. I'm glad you've had the courage to take this journey and are also doing what you can to reach through to people with what you're discovering.

  • BoSSspy

    Wow! ..can't believe I read every comment. It took until page 11 when (RandomUK) finally touched on what I was thinking. While I'm not a Liberal , I'm fully aware that the true liberal is not a great threat me, my country or my freedom. Liberals have been used by the radical left to advance a totalitarian agenda that no liberal or conservative should stand for. we are not as far apart as those with an agenda would have us believe.
    I'm a non religious conservative I'm tolerant of modern religion because I believe it does more good than harm!
    I have 0 tolerance for the radical left which only goal seems to be to control all of humanity and for them to conform to their religion (radical environmentalism)! Now that your mind is freed, I think you'll find conservatives to be far more open-minded than your soon to be ex friends on the left!

  • Mary

    Welcome to the Libertarian Party, Eric.

  • Miville

    No liberty without responsibility. No equality without reciprocity. No brotherhood without border-hood. Any cult from any country wanting to install his buildings in another religion's stronghold should not be authorized to do so until the country it stems from decides likewise to authorize the other religion to build its buildings on its own soil. If you want to open a Saudi-style mosque in the Midwest, let as many midwestern-style protestant church buildings and pews be opened for cult in Saudi Arabia, otherwise no mosque functioning as per the Saudi law or with Saudi funds should be authorized. If you want to open a Moroccan-style mosque right next door to the Vatican, let a catholic church be built in Mecca right next door the Hassan II mosque in Casablanca. The reverse is also true : if your intention is to conquer Haiti to midwestern-style protestantism, you should open voodoo peristyles in the Midwest for the Black community, but in the latter case there would be no great problem, for real voodoo, apart from its negative Hollywood image, is practically a kind of carnaval-like naive catholicism far less hateful to non-Blacks than many Black churches, and in the middle run voodoo would become a Black church like any other. If you set up communist organizations, let us be sure the communist country they stem from allows American capitalist organizations for its own people.

  • livingengine

    Eric Allen Rubbish.

  • livingengine

    Eric Allen Bell and His Cars.

    Do you remember when Eric told us he had to sell his car because he told the
    truth about Islam?

    I remember. I don’t even like the guy, and I cringed when I heard that.

    Well, consider the following time line. . . .

    Here, Eric tells us that he likes “shiny things”.

    Eric likes BMW’s, of course, he would. – [EAB Facebook 2011]

    By Dec 12, 2011 – Eric no longer owns a car. He is going to put the money
    into GlobalOne. – [EAB Facebook 2011]

    And, on February 7, 2012 he was reporting – ” I was driving in my car
    listening to a story on NPR. ”

    Let us assume this story took place earlier in 2011, before he sold the car
    he drove to Murfreeseboro.

    Then on July 4, 2012 he is selling his car again, ” I had to sell my
    car in order to pay my rent – and it’s that money is now gone.”

    So, what happened here? He sold one car in 2011, and another in July of
    2012, seven months later? Did someone give him a car after he sold in 2011?

    By SEPTEMBER 11, 2012 , He is driving again. – ” I spent the night at a
    motel and got on to the freeway for a long drive home, after the traffic had
    let up.”

    Maybe, it was a rental.

    In any event, in May of 2013 it appears people are commenting on Eric’s nice
    car. Is it a late model BMW, by any chance?

    “STRANGE DAYS INDEED: Either my freak magnet is
    working double time this past week, or something is up. This is the third time
    a stranger in a cafe has sort of awkwardly insisted on making conversation with
    me, regarding the very things we talk about here. This time the person mentions
    my car, parked outside, and makes a point to tell me they kow the color and
    model of the car. ” EAB – 5/1/2013

    Eric is sweating bullets here. He posts the following, 5 times in less than
    4 minutes.

    “If anyone tries to do anything to me it will be THE ISLAMIC CENTER OF
    MURFREESBORO and Nihad Awad of CAIR.” – EAB 5/1/2013

    Is Eric’s consternation the result of a guilty conscience? He can’t make the
    connection between his car, and his statement in July.

    Why didn’t he tell anyone “I have a car now, thank you.”

    Where did the car come from?

    ” No, the truth here is that Eric Allen Bell offers no reason for anyone
    to believe anything that comes out of his mouth (or keyboard). ” – David
    Christopher 2010

  • livingengine

    Again with the hype, and phoney death threats. There is no excuse for this.

  • livingengine

    Eric Allen Bell’s description of the exchanges between himself, and his “backers” is not true. EAB did not know about CAIR’s connections to the Holy Land Foundation until late January 2012 when I told him about it.

    This is just one example of how Eric Allen Bell does not hold up to scrutiny.

  • Rachel

    Well, Eric…you’ve got the “make excuses for Islam” and “death to Islamophobes” haters here in your comment section. LOL…what a surprise. No worries, mate….we discount everything that comes out of CAIR’s mouth as a LIE, which it is. Anyway, Eric….now you know how Conservatives feel constantly being labeled racists, homophobes, Islamophobes just for having common sense and telling the truth. I guess we are just impervious to indoctrination.

    • livingengine

      Poor Rachel has absolutely no idea what is going on.

      • Rachel

        Oh yes, Living…I’m the one who has no idea what’s going on. I was born yesterday. I haven’t read and read and read. I didn’t pass my Logic courses in college. I have zero common sense. I have NOOOOOoooo idea what’s going on. I look to geniuses like YOU for guidance…right off the cliff.

        • livingengine

          Well, despite what you say, you don’t have any idea what I am talking about. Furthermore, you are defending someone who is thoroughly discredited. I have more evidence that EAB is a fraud. What do you have?

  • sims

    Great article; very truthful. America better wake up before it is too late.

  • livingengine

    the fraud of Eric Allen Bell

  • Verum

    Very impressive! Eric Allen Bell speaks the truth regardless of the consequences to his reputation or career.

    • livingengine

      His reputation is in the toilet.

  • David McAliley

    Wow! Wish you could come to my church and give a speech. I caught major flak for calling out the violence in Islam. I teach adult sunday school, and had some of the members of my class react very vehemently to the idea that the Koran and Hadith (which most had never heard of) not only advocated, but demand violence against any and all unbelievers.
    Glad someone is out there telling the truth. Praying for your continued safety and courage.

  • Mike Di

    There is a high price of telling the truth about Judaism and Islam. I agree.

  • livingengine

    Eric Allen Bell does not tell the truth, my friend.

    • Keith

      Why don’t you prove it? Or is it easier just to scream Islamaphobia? After all it should be easy enough to prove that he is lying just by quoting from the Qur’an, Hadith and Sira. There must be lots of evidence in those books that show how much of a liar he is and there must be no evidence of any wrong doing by Muhammad. Why is it that someone who set out to show how bigoted the locals were against Islam ended up believing that Islam is the problem?

      • livingengine

        The proof is right below. Look at him LYING about the “bounty”.

        Listen here @11:00, when Eric says 4 Pakistani newspapers have called for his death.

        Twenty seconds later, he says his case is working its way to Eric Holder.

        Neither one of these statements is true; no Pakistani newspaper called for his death, and if Eric’s case ever comes before the A.G.’s office it will be for fraud.

        The bounty that was referenced by Eric in his appeals for money, is proof of Eric’s fraud campaign. Eric was told in early October 2012, that there were too many zeros on the bounty for it to be real. Eric suppressed this information, and continued to milk the bounty until nearly a year later, when he finally acknowledged that the number on the bounty was one quadrillion, and therefore not real. Today, he seems to be telling another story.

        Unfortunately, the pattern of boasting, misrepresentation, and even lying continue into his movies, and his businesses which appear to be fronts.

        • Keith

          Sorry but you have given no proof that he is lying about Islam and what he came to realise about Islam whilst trying to prove that it was those who were against the mosque were the problem.

          Why don’t you provide some real evidence against Mr Bell, in which case people will be willing to look it up and come to their own decision, all too often defenders of Islam just scream Islamophobia, Racism or just call people liars. No discussion is entered into at any time. Why?

          • livingengine

            Keith, you can be just as sorry as you want, but you are not reading, or following what I am saying.

            EAB engaged in a campaign of FRAUD in 2012. He defrauded the Counter Jihad Movement in 2012.

            This scampaign included: a phony bounty, misleading statements regarding his status with the FBI, and outrageous, wild statements on Israel National Radio.

            He also lied about his New Age beliefs. He lied about Pamela Geller, and Robert Spencer. He has also lied about me, repeatedly. His businesses are fronts.

            He is just constantly lying, and is using the CJM to gain attention.

            You apparently know absolutely nothing about him.

          • livingengine

            Look, Keith – This is Robert Spencer talking about Eric Allen Bell.

          • livingengine

            “Then last week, almost out of the blue, an article shows up on the David Horowitz site titled ‘The High Price of Telling the Truth About Islam’. What then follows is an incredible tale of what took place here in Murfreesboro through the eyes of Eric Allen Bell having somewhat recently changed his position entirely.” — David Christopher “Eric Allen Bell and Discernment”


            David Christopher characterizes EAB as “hypocritical, intolerant and religiously bigoted”. He also characterized him as “delusional” There is a lot of information about EAB here.

            If one wants to join the Counter Jihad Movement, one has to either leave the Bell Movement, or avoid it all together. He is not one of us.

          • livingengine

            Look, Keith — Bare Naked Islam knows about EAB. Now, you do, too.


          • livingengine

            Here is EAB indulging in his bigotry, this time directed against Jews, usually it is against Christians. It got so bad, even his stalwart supporters were calling him out. It wound up on Loonwatch, of all places.

            I have talked to Clark Banner about his appearance on Loonwatch, and was told that Eric had “explained” everything in private, and they are all good now.

            What could he possibly have said that would make this alright? What kind of a cult leader has this kind of influence over people?

            I have a lot more where this came from.

          • Keith

            Ok I stand corrected, I have not seen any of the articles that you have informed me about so I was not aware of them. Thank you and my apologies I thought you were just another Islamic apologist screaming Islamophobia at any criticism of the religion of pieces. I am very loathe to take some one seriously if all they say is this man is a liar, without giving any evidence I am sure you can understand that.

          • livingengine

            You are OK with me, Keith.