Will America Forsake Israel?


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The Israel-Iran countdown has begun and with respect to Tehran’s nuclear race we are witnessing the greatest crisis in the US-Israel relations. Will America help the tiny Jewish State? Can Israel trust the word of a US administration that has treated Jerusalem like a banana republic?

A few days ago, Israeli officials told the Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper that “the US’ stance is pushing the Iranians to become a country at the brink of nuclear capability.” Very few people in Israel believe that the US will ever launch another preemptive war against the ayatollahs. The US, especially if Barack Obama gets the re-election, will be tempted to reach a compromise with the Iranians.

Israel is dependent on the US for economic, military and diplomatic support. American taxpayers fund 20-25% of Israel’s defense budget, with the Jewish State being the largest recipient by far of American aid since World War II. Israel is required to use a portion of US aid to buy from the US defense establishment, but no other country — certainly not any European one — provides the weapons needed to protect Israeli lives. Moreover, the United States has cast 40 vetoes to protect Israel in the UN Security Council.

There is a quid pro quo for such support, but also a limit to what even that degree of dependence can buy. The current Iranian nuclear race made it very clear. And it made clear that the US can forsake, again, the Israelis.

Washington doesn’t support Israel because of the Jewish State’s democracy, the Holocaust or its respect for human rights. Israel’s strategic value has always been the primary motivation for US support. But it can change tomorrow, especially if Israel’s survival becomes a burden for Washington (France has been Israel’s most important ally after the war, but Paris suddenly abandoned the Jews for the Arab world). Israel must remember that she is America’s ally and client, not “friend.”

The first US presidents after Israel was established — Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy and Johnson — gave nothing to the Jewish State. And we were in a time when the ashes of Auschwitz were still warm, while today the memory of the Holocaust is fading. Truman maintained a US embargo against arms sales to the Israeli and Arabs, which was effective only against Israel. In 1948, it was US pressure which forced Israel to withdraw from the Sinai where Israeli forces were pursuing the defeated Egyptians.

In 1960 the Nazi officer Adolf Eichmann was apprehended by Israeli agents in Argentina and flown to Jerusalem for trial. Argentina turned to the UN Security Council, asking it to condemn Israel and order Eichmann’s return. Washington intended to support the Argentinean complaint and only the furious reaction of Israel’s foreign minister, Golda Meir, dissuaded Washington to do that.

Prior to the Six Day War, Abba Eban approached Lyndon Johnson and all he got was an arms embargo on the Middle East. In 1970, at the height of the “War of Attrition,” the US turned down an urgent Israeli request for security assistance.

In 1992 the Bush-Baker Administration humiliated the Israelis by an ultimatum: “Settlements or loan guarantees” (the latter Israeli general and minister Rehavam Ze’evi dismissed Bush senior as being “anti-Semitic”). The US post-Gulf War’s settlement included American efforts to dislodge Israel from the territories by endangering Israel’s security and claim to the land. The former editor of The New York Times, A.M. Rosenthal, wrote that “the Bush administration has a spiritual affinity for Arab rulers and oilmen, but bares its teeth when Jerusalem shows independence.”

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  • http://www.facebook.com/introvert321 Shmuel Malov

    The question should be. "Will America forsake Israel as America forsook Israel after the Proclamation of Independence." At that time America voted in the UN for Israeli Independence and then regretted that vote and subsequently put a blockade on Israel. If not for Czechoslovakia's selling arms to Israel, that would have been it. So the question should be. Is there any other country in the world who would be willing to stand up for Israel when and if America leaves Israels side.

    • Raymond in DC

      Canada, at least as long as Harper is PM. Last year it was Harper who blocked Obama's attempt to get the G8 to adopt his "1967 lines with agreed swaps" stance. Canada was also the first country to boycott the Durban III conference.

      • teq

        And the Czech Republic since the Czechs have traditionally helped Israel. Problem is, these two countries can't do much more than offer moral support.

    • Joel

      My friend, the question is not "if" the US will abandon Israel, but "when". The perfidy of the Executive (e.g., State Department) toward Israel is galling to many Americans, especially Believers. However, the world forgets Israel has very advanced missile technology and arms technology. The Bible prophecies in Jeremiah 50 and 51 provide very clear prophecies concerning the impending war between Israel and the surrounding Arab (not Persian) countries. Lets just say that the Israelis will not have to concern themselves with the neighboring Arab states as antagonists ever again.

      Shmuel asks "Is there any other country in the world who would be willing to stand up for Israel when and if America leaves Israels side." The answer is emphatically "Yes"! The Antichrist. Read all about it in Daniel 11:24 to the end. Listen, the Antichrist is going to come as the savior of the West, once the USA begins its descent into night, which may begin in the fall 2012!

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      G-d Bless the Czechs.

  • hemlockroid

    If Israel attacks first may she descend into hell afire.

    • Stern

      and if she is only allowed to attack descend, your prediction is assured. So thanks for nothing.

    • Rothschild

      Israel, seems to be perfectly justified by keeping the militant Iranian terrorists from being able to obtain nuclear capabilities. I'm opposed to all nuclear bombs, and nuclear power; because man cannot handle the technology in a safe manner.

      • hemlockroid

        From a historical perspective, Iran seeks to regain its historical primacy over the Arabian Gulf, a status begrudgingly ceded to the interests of nuclear states. Additionally, status quo efforts to inhibit Iranian nuclear development are woefully inadequate: Russia refuses to cooperate with sanctions, even going so far as to provide Iran with an S-300 missile defense system, and China insists on diplomatic negotiations with Iran, citing commercial interests in Iran’s oil and gas sector. Geographical motive, historical ambition, and inter-state factionalism have thus set the stage for the emergence of Iran as a nuclear state.

        There is, however, a silver lining to nuclear fatalism. Iran is actually motivated, rather than deterred, by aggressive U.S. interference with Iranian nuclear ambitions. For example, in 1975 when Iran began its nuclear power plant, its original intentions were innocuous. It wasn’t until George W. Bush declared the country part of the “axis of evil” that Iran began to militarize its nascent nuclear program under the justifiable pretense of self-defense. Furthermore, U.S. intervention can only incense nationalistic backlash in Iran, giving Tehran the public support needed to expedite the nuclearization process. We can either continue to pursue hardheaded nonproliferation strategies and risk indefinitely fracturing our relationship with Iran just before it gets nuclear weapons, or we can provide Tehran with the technical capacity to ensure that its nuclear program is safe and sustainable, and potentially gain a valuable economic partner in the meantime.

        • Choi

          YOU POS!!!
          Put YOURSELF where your DEVIL'S Heart leads YOU:
          Volunteer to be a HUMAN SHIELD at an Iranian Nuclear site,you mother*$#%er.

        • Drakken

          Nice to know useful idiots of the left always side with pure unadultered evil. When war starts and it will, could you please use yourself as a human shield around Iranian sites because Darwin loves a winner. If you live in the US we will remember our traitors.

        • PaulRevereNow

          Israel SHOULD attack first; and I hope and pray that they do; you sick hyena.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      hemorrhoid, mecca and the kabba will burn in Hell.

      All Muslim pilgrims will have to go to Hell to perform the Hajj.

    • bulbsnather

      according to the holy bible. Iran, Russia, turkey, Armenia, Georgia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Etheopia, Sudan ,Somalia. Lybya Seria, Kiing of the south, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Hamas, Palestine Lebanon, and Iraq, will join a evil alliance, along with the muslim brotherhood joining these countrys togather to destroy israel, but god will anger and show his wrath against these nations when they come togather at megido, only one fifth of this large army will be left and retreat, just to regroup again and with china at there side and the lord jesus christ will destroy them all, and the bible says, then you will know that i am lord. god of all the earth and the heavenly host, everything in it, o0n it and above it, i am the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, and prophesy is now happening before your very face.

  • hemlockroid

    If Israel attacks first may she descend into hell on fire.
    Thatcher condemned Israel’s bombing of Osirak, Saddam Hussein’s nuclear reactor, in 1981. “[The Osirak attack] represents a grave breach of international law,” she said in an interview with London’s Jewish Chronicle in 1981. Israel’s bombing of another country could lead to “international anarchy.”
    I think Reagan said something about,
    "….the inalienable sovereign right of Iraq, and all other States, especially the developing countries, to establish a program of technological and nuclear development."
    In his STAR WARS Speech didn't Reagan say, 'We will never be the aggressor."?
    I'm looking for the first few Reagan Republicans to condemn the said planned attack against Iran. Betcha not one has the guts to make a stand for fear of being called an anti-something.
    Israel-influenced media doesn't remember the extent the USA went
    to keep Israel non-atomic, and failed. The same 'last wire' means of operation (all production done except for assembly) was practiced by Israel as much as its practiced by Iran today. Total monkey-see monkey-do. http://ejpress.org/ImageGallery/99b84491-fbe3-45d

    'last wire'…just like present day Iran charge. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Socie

    • Stern

      And just a few years later, the Western world was thanking Israel for bombing Osirak. You have chosen a very poor example to justify your hatred.

    • Choi

      AREN'T YOU WORRIED THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HELL FOR BEING THE POS YOU ARE?

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      hemorrhoid, mecca and the kabba will burn in Hell.

      All Muslim pilgrims will have to go to Hell to perform the Hajj.

    • SKIP

      If Israel doesn't hit Iran, Saudi Arabia will cry for the Americans to hit them since the Sudis KNOW that Iranis HATE them more than they hate the Jews and if they are only gonna get off one muke the Saudis fear that it will be aimed at them and it may very well be. The Irani and Iraqi hatred of Saudi goes back to before islam and before the Jews. I purposly do not capitalize islam.

  • teq

    If Israel attacks Iran this fall she can take out a few of Iran's installations, enough to set their nuclear program back a year or two. Iran will respond with missiles and Hezbollah attacks and if Obama refuses to help it will seal his doom and guarantee he loses in November. Then President Romney will finish off the job in the spring.

    Or will he? Can we depend on Romney not to flip flop as he has done on so many other things? Perhaps we can. He and Bibi have been friends for a long time and Romney must know that his Christian-Jewish base will never forgive him if he turns around and abandons Israel. So I think he can be counted on, if he gets elected.

    That's the most cheerful scenario I can think of, but I'm very worried about how many Israelis will be harmed by Iran's response. Even if Obama is pushed into sending help, it'll be minimal and won't stop many Israelis from being killed. And if Israel doesn't attack, it will look weak which will give Iran more confidence. If Romney gets in, their confidence will vanish, but if Hussein Obama gets another term, Israel will be the one in trouble.

    This is a time for courage and prayer.

    • Choi

      "This is a time for courage and prayer. " and VOTING FOR ROMNEY/RYAN and the GOP!

      • teq

        Of course. That goes without saying. I'm still a little worried about Romney but if he gets wobbly I'm confident that Ryan will stiffen him up.

    • hemlockroid

      iran has the world by the tail. Bibi has to hurry cuz Israel is moving on from its victim identity. Many, Catholics (Ryan), Mormons (Mitt), Muslims all do not share the last Day vision FOX NEWS does ie (Evangelical, Baptist, Methodist 'the Brimestone sects'). But getting back to Israel as terrorists for a second, I remember In 1983, Thatcher made plain her opposition to former Irgun fighter Eliahu Lankin becoming Israel's ambassador to the UK, as she viewed him as a terrorist. I mean, even if your Britain's bitch on the Israeli conflict you gotta come up for air when thatcher gets on record. But no. Cuz you're all a bunch of Israel Firsters cuz you feel the guilt from running away from the death camp chimney smoke. Youre queezy, not thinking clear.

  • Chaim Yankel

    The question is, where will the stupid American Jews, who voted 4 to 1 in favor of the worst Israel-hating president of them all, their beloved Obama Malkeinu, Obam' Adoneinu, stand? The answer is, they will stand up for Obama once again, and some may well even pull the good old ACORN trick and vote two or more times for Him on election day. How do I know this? Because the rabbi in my congregation adores Him, and so do a vast majority of its congregants.

    • miriam

      Agree. How can a Jew vote for Obama?I am Jewish and I don´t care if a rabbi adores an antisemite. A vote for Obama is a vote for a muslim brotherhood which is a continuation of the nazis
      Miriam

      • Rothschild

        I agree; and I have been asking myself the same question, as a half Jew…I did not vote for Obama or McCain, nor will I vote for Obama or Romney…I did not vote for Obama because I knew he was and incompetent…and I did not know of the term useful idiot, when I read about Obama and the Marxist Muslim brotherhood of Farrakhan and Wright, but. I did know I would have been voting in someone that supports International terrorists.

        As a liberal pacifist, I read extensively about whom worked for the civil rights laws that enabled Obama to get voted in; and the Muslim Brotherhood of America does not care about civil rights, or liberty, freedom, and the pursuit of happiness for all. How do I know this? Because, the ideal of “liberty” which is very important to civil rights applies to all minority groups; they all have rights including Jews to civil rights; which is to be allowed to express their views no matter how disagreeable it may be to the majority.

        As a half Jew, I knew this was even more important to me because, if America's ideal of liberty is lost; I could not simply go the the Jews for support, such as moving to Israel, or here to weather out the storm….if I was attacked by a well organized anti-semitic movement, such as Occupy Wall Street.

        Most Jews are liberal; but not liberal pacifists, so when I seen the front group (Occupy Wall Street) the Muslim brotherhood literally marching down the street in a movement like march where I live… I knew they were militant, and organized to be a anti-semitic group; but most liberal Jews probably think they are just another group at a demonstration, without asking about their funding, or creeds, or tactics.

        They probably think, or trust the powers that be would never allow militant terrorists group to be here..perhaps …if Israel put out international terrorists alerts; it would be easier to understand it, because it would be in writing, and in black and white how to identify terrorists in America, and to identify coded, and how to identify uncoded antisemitism.

        • Drakken

          Keep singing kumbaya and do some more wishful thinking, let the rest of us know how that works out for you. If you will fight for nothing, you and yours will be slaughtered for everything. History is filled with pacifists, they are all buried in mass graves. You are less than bloody useless.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          As a half Jew, you need to read Ezra and Nehemiah. Then try saying there is such a thing as a half Jew.

          • Kufar Dawg

            Ezra certainly wouldn't have suffered a bunch of antisemitic cretins occupying the Temple Mount or Israel.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No, that wouldn't have been allowed.

          • Rothschild

            Thank you… I shall read about it,…a few days ago, I found out probably all of my family, on my Jewish side are Orthodox Jews.

            They were definitely Sons Of Zion orthodox Jews, and two names came up Rabbi Moses Ziskind Finesilver, and Rabbi Samuel Mohilever.

            I think around the time of those rabbis were around; there were at most around 1000 to 5000 Jews, that were in the Sons of Zion.

            Are there any books, or should I try and find a rabbi about this?

            I contacted two Jewish Historical Associations, and I think, I came across a area of research that has never been done before.

            And Edmond James de Rothschild's name came up too.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You really don't get it, do you?
            You don't get to decide if you're Jewish. Rabbi's don't get to decide if you're Jewish.
            It's a thing decided before you are aware of it, or understand the issue.

            If the facts don't suit you, you can convert. But geneology is decided not something open to debate. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezra+

          • Rothschild

            I'm half Jewish…I'm simply doing research into my past. I understand, I'm a non-Jew.

            Do you think rabbi's would talk with me about this being a non-Jew?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            What I think is irrelevant. What is relevant is the the standards Jews hold for racial purity.'

            That's the issue. You seem confused, deliberately confused. There is a difference between being Jewish by decent and following Judaism. Until you are willing to articulate to yourself what both of those mean and how the qualifications are different you will circle in a muddle.

            And no Rabbi can change what those are.

          • Rothschild

            Have you ever heard of the Sons of Zion in Orthodox Judaism? Or, are all orthodox called the Sons of Zion?. With all my luck, I had secular orthodox Jewish relatives, which makes it even more difficult to research.

            Rabbi David H. Bachelor for the Sons of Zion has passed away, and the temple has closed down.

            Both the Jewish historical societies I contacted did not have much, or any information, but one is sending me information in the mail.

            I'm very interested in the Russian part of their Judaism, when they were in Russia.

            Should I travel there? Would the Russians open the archives to me?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You don't have a clue do you?

            "….secular Orthodox Jewish relatives…" The words themselves are a contradiction.

            Are you being deliberately obtuse about this?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            He's a troll and you are taking the bait.

            OTOH, His inanities help you polish your arguments.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            If you ignore them what is accomplished?

            Hitler was ignored for too long by too many.

            I will challenge trolls and shred them at every opportunity. We lost the media, the schools, the republican leadership, all because we were too civilized to fight like winning mattered.

    • Jimi Belton

      Chaim, you have nailed the truth to the nth….Only a jewish person could say this TRUTH and cause Jews in America to wake up….were I to have said what you just said, i would be considered the worst kind of Anti- Semite….But my heart cries out in pain for the Jew and Israel, YHWH`s beloved Planting, His Garden in that part of the world…..Jerusalem is the true center of the earth….the rest of the world revolves around that one small town….Please keep on warning your people, the Jewish….

      • teq

        Only leftist-liberal Jews vote for Obama. Unfortunately there are a lot of them. Are leftist-liberal Jews true Jews or are they apostate Jews? I don't consider leftist liberal Christians to be true Christians. Liberal Jews want to call themselves Jews without having to keep the Covenant. Liberal Christians want to call themselves Christians without having to keep the New Covenant. These liberal Covenant-breakers are easy dupes for the enemies of God.

        It's time we realized that liberal apostates are not true Jews or true Christians. Some of them make wake up and realize their error and I pray it's not too late.

    • Choi

      You need to JOIN a NEW congregation.
      Your sleeping in a SICKBED and YOU'RE NOT SICK!

    • Stevebrown

      Asher, you hit the nail right on the head. Once again, God will have to save his people from themselves. In a world with over 8 billion people there are how many Hebrews, 25 million ? And of the great land mass of the earth Israel is but a tiny dot. Still this very very small nation with its city of Jerusalem seems to hold the fate of humanity in its hands. I believe that Israel is The Lord. The land promised to Abraham is a Holy Land. I am a "Born Again Jew". I know that this sounds insane, but The Lord, Christ appeared before my eyes over 40 years ago and now I know that I have been called to bear witness to this to all mankind. Christ appeared to me in broad daylight as a glowing figure in a white robe telling me that he was Jesus.

  • Bert

    The Muslims are fierce believers in Islam and are ready to die for their beliefs. Unfortunately Israeli leaders are secular cowards who fear Obama and ignore the very G-d that has kept them alive against all odds.
    In all the comments no one even mentions Jews turning to G-d because we have become so self-debased that we are the easy target of every anti-Semite in the world.
    Note also that Israel fears to warn the world that, if pushed too far they, can take out the entire Middle East, destroy the oil wells and thereby collapse western economies. But this ultimate weapon is reserved for use only after Israel is in the process of being destroyed and it is too late to avert destruction. There seems to be a suicidal tendency in so many Jews.

  • Jimi Belton

    May heaven watch out and over Ysrael…..Pray for the peace of Jerusalem….I, YHWH, will bless them that bless you Ysrael, and I will curse them that curse you

    • hemlockroid

      From a historical perspective, Iran seeks to regain its historical primacy over the Arabian Gulf, a status begrudgingly ceded to the interests of nuclear states. Additionally, status quo efforts to inhibit Iranian nuclear development are woefully inadequate: Russia refuses to cooperate with sanctions, even going so far as to provide Iran with an S-300 missile defense system, and China insists on diplomatic negotiations with Iran, citing commercial interests in Iran’s oil and gas sector. Geographical motive, historical ambition, and inter-state factionalism have thus set the stage for the emergence of Iran as a nuclear state.

  • Mike

    Has anyone thought of Psalms 83 or Ezek 38-39? This war was written about 2500 yrs ago and guess what? Israel does NOT loose!! Watch it for yourselves when it comes to pass and unfortunately many innocent people die but Israel will never be defeated again, not after he brought them back into their own homeland. Remember that G-d will win this war to prove to the jews that he is who he says he is and loves his land Israel. Not for their sake but for his name sake. Praise the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, this will something to watch!

    • Stern

      Actually, it's not to prove to the Jews that He is who He says he is. He did that at Sinai. Unfortunately, we Jews are a "stiff-necked" people and it didn't take us long to reject Him – as so many do today. But that's another story.

      This is to prove to the rest of the world – to the nations – that the G-d of the Jews is the one true G-d.

    • John

      Amen, brother! While few, if any, reasonable and moral people think this upcoming war won't be tragic, the silver lining is that the Lord God Himself will reveal to the entire world that He isn't unaware of the current situation and will, for His names sake, remind everyone that it is His land and His people and His city and that no human action will or can void His will, promises and truth. Indeed, God will personally handle this current conflagration of vitriolic hatred and though it may make some people wake up and repent, I believe the rest who are shocked and stunned will soon go back to sleep and quickly forget His actual involvement in this situation until Jesus calls the Church home and 7 years of tribulation set in….

    • Richard Weinberg

      Psalm 83 has always been my favorite!

  • Asher

    The American government may abandon Israel, but Christians never will in a million years! The Lord is going to guide Israel, and they will prevail in the end. Isaiah 62: 6 I have set watchmen on your walls, O Jerusalem; They shall never hold their peace day or night. You who make mention of the Lord, do not keep silent, And give him no rest till he establishes and till he makes Jerusalem a praise in the earth.

    • Larry

      Yes I believe you are right. The Christians who believes in the scriptures will support the Isrealites. They know the scriptures unlike many of the Jews. The Jewish leadership since the death of the Jewish messiah Jesus have kept the Jews from really understanding the prophets and the Spirit of G-d. They pursued the early Apostles across the Roman Empire to squash the belief of Jesus as the Messiah or the Greek word Christo, hence Christian. In Isaiah G-d tells of a time when the Jews will see Him in His Glory coming back to save the descendents of Israel. This is truly the time of Jacobs troubles and I believe it will happen when Israel, forced to, attacks Iran.

    • hemlockroid

      Most Christians worldwide do not believe in the promise land/Chosen people concept applies for anytime past when Jesus died and rose having been instructed TO NOT put the Jew before the non-Jew (or vice versa) considering any matter. Study what Protestant sects believe what about End Times. Youre painting with a broad brush. For instance, Mormon Mitt believes JC is coming down in Missouri and that Muslims share in the promise of Abraham.. Catholics believe 'world without end'. Bone up, Bunky, and lay off the Jack Van Ippy and Hal Lindsey.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        So many talking points.

        So, did you have any links or texts to back them up?

    • hemlockroid

      read some Yabkin on Zionism and it being contrary to Judaism. Everything youre spewing is dependent on Jew conversion to Protestantism. "Israel stalkers' http://www.bloggen.be/jesjoeroen/archief.php?ID=5

  • EthanP

    Nations don't have friends, they have interests.
    I have no doubt that a second Obama term will see Israel thrown under the bus. And IMHO, it's not all political. Or does anybody really believe in Black Liberation Theology Church, run by an admited antiSemite/antiZionist like Rev Wright, bosum buddy of that other infamous antiSemite/antiZionist Louis Farakan, for 20 years if he didn't share those views? I do have some hope, if Romney wins. But that assumes a fair election and the Holder Justice Dept, along with the cullusion of the MSM means the game is rigged. And Israel won't go down alone. I honestly believe a d BHO term will ruin the USA beyond recovery.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Louis GarbageKhan and his NOI, Nation Of IDIOTS are a Filth Column.

  • Martha

    The bottom line? remember this: God said that he who blesses Israel will be blessed–and he who curses Israel will be cursed. Not helping Israel is not blessing them–so does anyone wonder why we are having bad times? The Bible also foretells a time ( which sure looks like is very near) when there will be a war in which all will be against Israel- but God will be their protector, and those who have attacked israel will fall

  • Kelly Kafir

    Isaelis need to know that the actions of this traitor in chie,f who occupies our White House for only 156 more days, are not reflective of the support of most Americans for Israel.

    • Kelly Kafir

      Israelis – sorry…

  • Raymond in DC

    "Those who remember Ronald Reagan as friendly to Israel may be startled to recall the vehemence of his reaction against Israel."

    Well, that's not quite the case. Claire's "Raid on the Sun" notes that when Reagan was notified of the strike he was surprised, but hardly angry. He didn't understand what the fuss was about. Indeed, when shown satellite photos of the precision strike he said, "But what a terrific piece of bombing!" (p. 221) Still, he accepted entreaties from his advisers that the US had to "do something" to show its displeasure. So yes, they joined in the condemnation, but even the embargo on F-16 deliveries was quietly lifted six months later.

    • hemlockroid

      Sounds like another Reagan minimization. Remember him 'running a government within a government"? His whole response was' Mistakes were made'. Wow, how profound. From a historical perspective, Iran seeks to regain its historical primacy over the Arabian Gulf, a status begrudgingly ceded to the interests of nuclear states. Additionally, status quo efforts to inhibit Iranian nuclear development are woefully inadequate: Russia refuses to cooperate with sanctions, even going so far as to provide Iran with an S-300 missile defense system, and China insists on diplomatic negotiations with Iran, citing commercial interests in Iran’s oil and gas sector. Geographical motive, historical ambition, and inter-state factionalism have thus set the stage for the emergence of Iran as a nuclear state.

  • Irwin Ruff

    If Obama gets re-elected, the US will turn fully against Israel and the Jews, possibly even to attacking Israel. Obama has no interest in the US, he is interested in himself, and how he feels about anything or anybody. If Romney should win, things should be better, but we still can’t trust him, and anything can happen, even a full turn against Israel.

    • Choi

      Romney WON'T turn on Israel.
      American Voters must REALIZE that VOTING OBAMA OUT,and the DEMOCRATS in Congress WITH HIM, is as IMPORTANT as any other PATRIOTIC ACT in American History.

      • teq

        Romney's heart may be in the right place but he doesn't exactly have the heart of a lion. Ryan does, and that makes me feel a little more confident that if Romney gets cold feet, Ryan will push him to do the right thing

  • Mike

    You could be right EthanP, you could be right!

  • Ghostwriter

    I'm surprised that scum like Schlockmotion and his pals aren't here,screaming their anti-Jewish nonsense for all the world to hear. They must have an affinity for the vile mullahs in Iran,they don't seem to mind their anti-semitic rants too much.

  • James Camargo

    The biblical prophecy of Zechariah Chapter 12, declare the nation of Israel will go this alone ,and be victorious.
    This however, will begin a cascade of calamities worldwide. In the heavens, the moon, the stars, the nations. Natural disasters, disease, famines, economic strife, the evil becoming more evil, etc.
    Not only because of the wars is GOD wrathful, but by mans general unrepentent gravitation towards evil.
    Do not cling to this perishing world. GOD promises, " All that call on the name of the LORD JESUS shall be saved. Don't be one day too late.

  • kendrick1

    This would be a good time to start pulling out of all the countries in which we have our noses and
    U.S. taxpayer money. Cut off the funds we give them, reinforce our defenses here at home, get
    busy drilling for oil and natural gas, produce more coal, and strive for more renewable
    energy(with no taxpayer subsidies)! To a man, all countries of the world hate us!! So I say, let
    them go on their own and let's take care of our own people. We are now being held hostage by
    the Islamists!! The following link can give you an idea of what can happen when other nations
    are left to their own devices!!

    http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,171

  • kendrick1

    This upcoming election will produce no different conditions if we don't get out and campaign!
    Donate! Go door to door! Ask people to vote! Ask if they are registered to vote! Register them
    yourself! Drive them to the polls! A click of the mouse won’t do it! We can't just sit at our
    internet! We may not have it much longer if we get a Deja Vu!!!

    I don’t want to live on my knees, do you?

    If we don't quit straightening the deck chairs while the ship is sinking, I'm afraid our nation is
    sick to death!!

  • New_Testament_Christian

    Sir, “antichrist” means exactly what it says. The Jewish religion is antichrist. That is what John referred to in his epistles (1 Jn. 2:18-22; 4:3; 2 Jn. 7). Islam is antichrist. It just means one that is opposed to Christ. Antichrist was alive and well in the 1st century. Also, notice that scriptural references never generalize it. It is never “the antichrist.” In fact, 1 Jn. 2:18 said that there were “many” in the 1st century.

    • Rothschild

      I disagree…Jesus was a Jew…the name Christian was given to his followers by Pontius Pilate …he did not know what to call them so he called them Christians.

    • Famously Unknown

      N-T-C, you speak like a mud-minded fool. Jesus never rejected his religion; he emphasized the same aspects that Hillel did. If many Jews are not lovers of Jesus and his messages, perhaps they remember the atrocities against Jews committed in Jesus' name and carry that antipathy toward Christ and Christianity today, rather than regarding the atrocity perpetrators as ignorant and vicious and anti-Christ-like.
      Goes to show that mud-minded prejudice produces blindness and deafness to sanity and peace and ferments as soul-rot in all pseudo-spiritual people..

  • New_Testament_Christian

    Sir, “antichrist” simply means one that is opposed to Christ. The Jewish religion is antichrist as much as Islam is. When the term “antichrist” is used is scripture it is never generalized. In fact, 1 John 2:18 says that there were “many antichrists” during that time. The meaning of the word is just a general disposition of unbelief; not a specific person.

    • ConstIva2

      @New_Testament_Christian:
      I don't even know why I returned to this site after my long-term experience with its amazing intolerance to any opinion that is even slightly opposing theirs.
      You see: you immediately got "-2" score just for your statement of facts.
      I also asked a question, but immediately got an automated warning that my comment should be approved first. It's their filter in action: after receiving such a message, one has to realize that his/her comment won't be posted.

    • ConstIva2

      This is what I tried to post unsuccessfully so far
      I am curios: was the leader of the Socialist Zionist Poalei Tzion party, the Father of Israel, David Ben Gurion, really thinking that Palestinians (who, after the suppression of the Bar Kokhba revolt in 136 C.E., which resulted in shifting of the Jewish religious center to the Babylonian Jewish community, lived in the country, which was called Peleset – later transliterated in English as Palestine – since 1,500 B.C.E in many Egyptian documents of 20th Dynasty of Ramses) will freely give the land back to new Israelis?

      I understand the Stalin's insidious plan to establish the State of Israel as a Communist outpost in the Middle East and provoke the further conflict with Arabs, which was the main reason why he ardently supported Socialist Ben Gurion.
      But didn't David realize that Zionism doomed Israelis to non-stop war with Arabs? Or he really was so naive that believed that Arabs will give the land back to newcomers freely?

  • stevefraser

    Not America, Obama.

  • hemlockroid

    Think Obama is soft on Islam? Check out Mormons, Einstein.

    • Kufar Dawg

      "My muslim faith". Look it up dirtbag.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        He really has earned that red flag next to his name.

  • hemlockroid

    All this Armageddon stuff is a Protestant understanding of the Bible, an adulteration of Catholic creed. The % of people who abide by this sheet is shrinking in the face of Catholic, Muslim birthrates.

  • A.R Momen

    Sometimes I wonder about the cowardliness of Jews in general ,Allah disclosed this secret to the believers in Surat 2 ,verse 96:" And thou wilt find them greediest of mankind for life and (greedier) than the idolaters. (Each) one of them would like to be allowed to live a thousand years. And to live (a thousand years) would be no means remove him from the doom. Allah is Seer of what they do. (96) ". Yes , they have the right to be afraid of the Iranian and Palestinian reaction .When you occupy other's lands and force them to live as refugees away from their property ,when you surround them in an open prison like Gaza,you are planting bitter poisonous hatred seeds .Someday these sands will be carried back to you by air or by water ,they 'll hurt you,to what extent nobody can guess!

    • Famously Unknown

      A-R-M, it's good for you to "wonder about the cowardliness of Jews in general" as you appear unaware of what has happened when, "the people in their weeping bare the iron hand."
      Israel's opponents are not cowardly; they are quite willing to deliberately target and murder innocent, defenseless, babies, toddlers, children, men, and women — whether Muslim, Jew, Christian, Buddhist, Hindu, Jain, Sikh, Zoroastrian, atheist, Animist,…

  • texasron

    Obama will take so much time making a decision that Isreal will be allowed to do it alone. It's just his way of voting "Present" again.

  • Captain America

    Israel has nuclear weapons. If they feel threatend by Iran, and if the nuclear sites are impervious to conventional bombs and even bunker busting bombs, well then, they should use nukes. Not only would they destroy the sites, they would make the sites unusable for a long, long time.
    P.S. Any Jew who votes for Obama is asking for a second holocaust.

  • Bighoss

    I just don't think I can STAND any more of this egregious optimism!