Whitewashing Islamic Terror in Toulouse


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Now that French anti-terror police have fatally shot Mohammed Merah, the French-born Algerian jihadist suspected in the murders of three French paratroopers, three Jewish children and a rabbi, it’s worth commending their refusal to go along with the international media’s speculative and politically correct witch-hunt for a fictional “far-right” killer.

After a prolonged 33-hour siege on Merah’s apartment hideout, the police finally felled Merah with a bullet to the head. But that decisive resolution would have been highly unlikely had they deferred to the media consensus and gone after what reports in the French and foreign press emphatically suggested was a “right-wing assassin,” or “a marksman with far-right views,” perhaps one who had taken “inspiration from Anders Behring Breivik,” the Norwegian ultra-nationalist and mass murderer who killed 77 people.

In keeping with its ideologically preferred suspect, one popular press theory was that the Toulouse murderer was one of the neo-Nazi soldiers dismissed from the French army in 2008 after being photographed giving the Nazi salute behind a Swastika-emblazoned flag. “The French army has people in its ranks who may be tempted by extremism,” one French daily mused darkly. Before long, tabloids were blaring about a “hunt for Nazi soldiers.”

Even after French police had interrogated the soldiers and cleared them of suspicion, speculation persisted that the killer must have been a right-wing extremist rather than, as the evidence suggested, an Islamist. The French press in particular fanned that theory, suggesting that “Islamophobia” was driving the killer. After asking whether Islamophobia as well as anti-Semitism could have been a motive in the killings, Le Figaro answered its own question with a definitive “no doubt.”

The press even found a quick culprit in President Nicolas Sarkozy. Fingers were instantly pointed at Sarkozy’s comments earlier this month that France had too many foreigners and was not integrating them properly into society. Sarkozy’s statement touched off a firestorm, but it was by no means baseless. Destructive waves of riots by Muslim youth of North African origin in 2005 and again in 2010 revealed that France’s immigrant enclaves were hotbeds of extremism and separatism, where residents had little connection to and a violent resentment of French society at large.

Nonetheless, the press insisted that it was Sarkozy who was to blame for creating a so-called “climate of intolerance” toward Muslims. The barely concealed subtext was that Sarkozy himself might have contributed to the emergence of the murderer in Toulouse – a charge reminiscent of the left-wing smear that “violent rhetoric” from the Tea Party had inspired the deranged Arizona assassin Jared Lee Loughner.

It’s a measure of the media’s commitment to the “Islamophobia” narrative that it did not abandon it even after police revealed that their prime suspect was a Muslim. Even after revealing Merah’s Algerian identity – though not, pointedly, the fact that he was a Muslim – the New York Times lamented that French “Muslims complain widely of feeling vilified by some political elements, on the right in particular” and warned that “the anti-immigration far right has been gaining unprecedented popularity in recent months.” The police had their man, but the Times had its story, and it was sticking with it.

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  • Bamaguje

    It's really pathetic and disturbing…the extent politically correct see-no-jihad lamestream media would go to exonerate their Islamist allies…even fabricating another Anders Brevik despite all the obvious contrary evidence.
    How they wished it could all be dismissed as "work place violence," Obama infamously did with the rampaging Fort Hood jihadist – Nidal Hassan.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      The only free reporters in sharia countries are… not really free.

      Do they think they'll get a pass by covering for the militants that would kill them?

      Daniel Pearl learned how well that worked.

    • esperantominoria

      Guys,most of us have never heard of this 2006 incident,but it is still shocking:

      "Video by a Girl about how in 2006 Borders,the International Bookstore Company,out of Fear,decided to always put the Koran on the Top Shelf"
      http://www.antisharia.com/2012/03/25/video-by-a-g

      AND ALSO

      "Theodora,Greatest Woman of the Byzantine Empire,and a Comparison between Justinian,her Husband,and Sultan Suleiman"
      http://www.antisharia.com/2011/08/04/theodoragrea

      "Skanderbeg,Albanian Prince,pretended to be Muslim for more than 20 years,Retracted and fought the Turks"
      http://www.antisharia.com/2011/07/31/skanderbegal

  • crackerjack

    Let's not forget that the terrorist who killed over 92 kids in Norway pleged his allegiance to the likes of Robert Spencer, Melanie Phillips, Mark Steyn, Gates of Vienna, Fjordmann, English and Norwegian Defense Leauge, Henryk Broder….

    …..if these folks had nothing to do with Breivik's madness, why should Islam have anything to do with Merah's madness? Who is whitewashing who here?

    • Anthony

      In reading your consistantly arrogant, sarcastic comments, you appear by your expressed opinions to be an Islamophile.

      You refuse to dare peek into the furthest reaches of you mind to examine the fascinating and deadly world created by a powerful idea of God presented 500 years after Christ walked this Earth.

      Christ himself warned of false prophets. He also when asked how evil people can be identified said “By their fruits ye shall know them”.

      You willingly embrace evil.

      • randy

        Is this the same CHRIST that the christians followed as they stole north ameica from the natives?

        • Anthony

          Well genius, it certainly wasn’t the same MOHAMMAD that the Moslems followed when then took Constantinople, Egypt, Jerusalem, etc from the Christians.

          • ebonystone

            And the Mohammed that Moslems followed when they took Persia from the Zoroastrians, and India and Indonesia from the Hindus and Buddhists.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Oh that Mohammed? The one who said this?

            9:5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

        • pagegl

          Once again, Randy, just because your inability to comprehend simple English is becoming rather grating, there are no North American natives; all human beings in the new world are descended from people who came from the old world.

    • karolgadge

      But was Merah really mad? And if not, his motives could be clearly explained by the philosophy lying behind a particular brand of Islam. The vocabulary of jihadist terror, the willingness for self-immolation, the repeated invocations to Allah and justifications provided by selective readings from The Koran are all pieces of evidence that liberal media pundits like to ignore.
      Writing from the UK, I observed that a BBC journalist, writing 24 hours before the identity of the assassin was finally revealed, had determined the culprit was a right-wing renegade, possibly fueled by the policies of Nicolas Sarkozy. This spurious piece of wish-fulfilment appeared on the BBC news website itself.

    • kentatwater

      Let's not forget that the terrorist who killed over 92 kids in Norway pleged his allegiance to the likes of Robert Spencer, Melanie Phillips, Mark Steyn, Gates of Vienna, Fjordmann, English and Norwegian Defense Leauge…

      Pledged allegiance? Really? How about a few quotes? Oh, and you'll have to also provide quotes of reciprocal esteem from those listed.

      I'll give you a start, though. Brevik was ejected from the Norwegian Defense Leauge, because his ideas were regarded as too extreme, and he was happy to go.

    • peter

      None of the writers you mention had anything to do with Breivik's actions because none of them have ever advocated violence towards anyone or any group people. Implying any connection is dishonest.

      Islamic texts on the other hand are filled with calls of violence towards non-Muslims. Stop whitewashing Islam.

    • dave

      Crackerjack, the irony is that Breivik was labelled 'Nazi' when actually he was against the Nazism of Islam which has changed the whole of Scandinavia. When the spineless government does nothing to address the issues of social cohesion, mass immigration and also by the desparate clinging onto the notion that Islam is 'a religion of peace' and can co-exist with secular democracy, you will get people like Breivik. This is the reason for this website!

    • dave

      The liberal west is numbed by their own denial and are so desperate for Islam to be a religion like any other, that they cling onto any notion that it might be. Unfortunately it has gone beyond that and we need to admit that we were all wrong, which is the hardest thing to do and then collectively look at what we should do now. It is terrifying but Merah is the tip of the iceberg, European born, young generation of Islamic supremicists. There are millions of them all over Europe! We have to face this problem, we can't keep saying everything is fine.At some point we have to go against our liberal ideology and stop muslim immigration and actually deport some of them. This is the problem as the liberal mind would rather convert to Islam than do anything 'right wing'

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        They don't realize how fascist sharia really is.

        They need to live in Somalia and see how peaceful the 'religion' is when it has a chance.

      • curmudgeon

        stop muslim immigration and actually deport some of them…………………….

        recently i found a nest of rattlesnakes under my house. i am trying to sort out the peaceful rattlesnakes from the extremist rattlesnakes, so i will know which ones to deport. can you help?

    • tagalog

      One might reply that Breivik, inspired by the likes of Mark Steyn, Melanie Philips et al. was out of the mainstream of their thought. But I'm OK with holding Breivik out as killing as a result of right-wing thought.

      Then I'd raise the issue of Muslims killing others including fellow Muslims as right within the mainstream of Islamic thought and religious doctrine.

      Then I'd point out that right-wingers engaging in murder for right-wing reasons are fewer by far than the murdering Muslims and left-wingers, who seem to be legion these days, and, come to think of it, have been murdering for quite a long time, decades if not centuries, for reasons of ideology and religion.

    • ebonystone

      Breivik was also a Freemason, and an homosexual. Funny, but that's rarely mentioned in the PC-media.

    • http://nycright.blogspot.com Ron Lewenberg

      Brevik never pledged himself in allegeience with the people you cited. He aided the Stalinist left in smearing them and trying to silence them. This was quite literally the act of a madman, because for at least 70 years in the West terrorist construed* to be right wing has been used to tar the right. Breivik either wanted to have the Norwegians terrorize the democratic anti-jihadist right, in which case he was functionally allied with those he shot, or he was insane. Either way he was the enemy of those he cited or a madman. But Breivik also quoted Obama and the Unabomber (leftist environmentalist). Which shows his scattered thinking. The delusional citations of a schizophrenic says nothing about anything he cited.

      *It doesn't even have to be right wing. JFK was killed by a communist, but his leftist assasination empowered the left. The Arizona shootings from last year were the actions of an insane leftist, but conservatives were blamed.

    • David, Thailand

      Chalk and cheese. Breivik was not commanded to murder those people by any god other than his own twisted mind.

      You seem to be clinging to a similar convenient distraction that's characteristic of cowardly Western politicians and media.

      Stick with it, stay in terminal denial.

    • curmudgeon

      i dont know to whom breivik "pleged" his allegiance, but his tactic, the murder of those of his own kind who were traitors, is pure islam. it is a tactic that works fabulously for islam, but it doesnt work for islam's victims.

    • Israel

      YOU!

  • http://callofthepatriot.blogspot.com HermitLion

    If one ever needed proof that the press, in its current form, is utterly obsolete – there you have it.
    It's as if a horse ran over a person, and everyone in the media were making mental cartwheels to convince everybody it was actually a bus that hit a zebra.

    • Choi

      YOU UNDERSTAND TODAY's LEFT-WING CORRUPT MEDIA 100%

    • fred

      Such profound statement…This your statement just hit the nail on the head about the agenda of the left.

  • MethanP

    This past Monday and Tuesday, CNN went with the "right wing" theory. No one I know ever thought this wasn't an Islamist attack. Considering the current alliance between the left and Islamists, it's to be expected the left tried to divert suspicion to the right. Interestingly, the actual French Right party, led by Le Penne is actively seeking Jewish support.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      It's almost as if the media is used to covering for marxists of muslim heritage.

      I didn't mention Obama, of course that would make me a racist.

  • dave

    I can't believe it. I am listening to James O'brien on LBC here in London, where there has been very little media attention as yet to what's happened. The discussion is about whether it is fair to call Merah an islamist, as he 'doesn't represent the true islam'. I am going mad! There is nothing about the real issues.

  • Schlomotion

    There is a problem in general with journalists refusing to do investigative reporting, with bloggers posing as journalists, and with samizdats, hasbaras, and pundits offering their opinion on which racial or religious group is responsible and which witch hunt should follow. In the US, we had Neocon pundits shrieking that we should go after the Muslims after the OKC Bombing, after the Olympic bombing, and after the Anthrax scare. I think it is wise to ignore these savage cries for retribution, as well as the scathing attacks on the press and the leaders of countries until the facts come in, or until someone is brave enough to go in person and get the facts.

  • davarino

    And we thought the Soviet Union was the only nation that dealt in propaganda. We were proud that our journalists were nothing like Pravda. Look at us now, believing everything they tell us, like we're a bunch of rubes. The muslims will over step their bounds and all the media bias/propaganda in the world will not stop the people from ousting their antagonists.

  • Jamil

    BROTHERS PLEASE TAKE MOMENTS TO READ ON TRUE ISLAM. ISLAM IS THE PEACEFUL RELIGION. MANY BLESSINGS ON YOU. http://www.al-islami.com/islam/religion_of_peace….

    • kentatwater

      Because of the principle of Taqiyya, observant Muslims aren't all that great a source for authoritative information on that subject.

      http://www.islam-watch.org/Warner/Taqiyya-Islamic

    • Zagging

      BROTHERS PLEASE TAKE MOMENTS TO READ ON TRUE ISLAM. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        Facts are a stubborn thing.

    • kafir4life

      Jamil, I'd love to, but I already have a pretty good understanding of islam from many of your co-religionists. It's a gutter cult invented by a peodphilic madman named mohamat, who after sex with and a meal of his favorite pig, shat the contents of what you call the koran. It's adherants are of the worst of humanity, can't be trusted, murderers.

      What more can you tell me about it?

    • stern

      Jamil and Zagging, instead of trying to get us infidels to read about the "true Islam", why do you not expend your energies teaching your co-religionists? Why don't you stand up and loudly and vehemently protest against those who insist that Jihad means killing Jews and other non-believers?

      Why don't YOU stand up for the "true" Islam?

      Heck, I'd be a lot more inclined to believe what you say then, than I would be by reading a bunch of claims on the internet

      • Zagging

        Stern, go to the site I linked. Really. Do it.

        • Poppakap

          Zagging, take Stern's advice. Use your energy to convince your co-religionists to stop all the killing in the name of Islam and broadcasting said killings for everyone on earth to see. Their minds are those that need convincing and educating, not the readers of Frontpagemag. Really. Do it, and stop wasting our time with your links.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            It was a site telling how the muslim madman slaughtered the little girl.
            He's not saying what you think he is.

    • pagegl

      Taqqiya.

      • trickyblain

        Taqueria.

        Lunchtime!

    • Nakba1948

      Brother Jamil, your heart is in the right place, but your efforts to spread the truth are wasted on these Islamophobic nutcases. Their rabid, shallow hatred is epitomized by how several of them immediately labeled poster "Zagging" as a Muslim evangelist, without bothering to confirm that the link s/he posted actually directs to another anti-Muslim hate site. Classic stupidity, but it's about what I've come to expect from this website. By the way, when you Ziocons invoke "Taqqiya," you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about: http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/08/taqiyya-the-ulti… Allahu akbar!

      • stern

        Nakba, as this website falls so far below your standards, please accept this open invitation to stay away. Permanently.

        Allahu snackbar.

        • Nakba1948

          What the matter, Stern, have you run out of lies to peddle? Can't take any more criticism?

        • Nakba1948

          Don't kid yourself: without "evil Mooooslums" in your midst, you bigoted pukes wouldn't have anything left to talk about. Truly sad.

      • KarshiKhanabad

        Heh, heh, the worst part about religionofpeace.com is that it tells the simple unvarnished truth about Islam.

        Mohammed Merah as a cruel mass murderer/child killer, is nothing less than a sterling example of the pure Muslim following the teachings of the Koran/Hadiths/Sira to the letter in their execution. There will soon be "Mohammed Merah in his BMW" T-shirts for sale all over the Muslim world.

        Long live Israel!

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        Really?
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfPbz9mQ5fw

        The problem with your propaganda is that the web keeps people informed in spite of our press.
        And the actions of your fellow muslims speak louder than your words.

        Daniel Pearl is unavailable for comment.

    • Ghostwriter

      Maybe if Muslims ACTUALLY CONDEMNED these sorts of acts committed by their co-religionists instead of blaming other,I could see your point,but they don't. They never have. They always blame the West,Christians,Jews,Americans,everyone else BUT themselves.

    • David, Thailand

      The Sharia definition of peace is that it can be achieved only when the last nonbeliever ceases to resist Islam and accepts Mohamed as the messenger of Allah, whereupon Sharia becomes the law of the land with control over every aspect of human existence.

      So yes, you are right, Islam can indeed be regarded as a religion of peace, but only when the rest of the world has been subjugated through violence, intimidation, duplicity, murder and contempt for civilised values.

    • Jaladhi

      Only two possibilities for your comment: either you don't know your religion at all or you know it well and are lying outright. You may call it taqiyya but I prefer lying to taqiyya. It tells the world that you guys will always lie to hide the truth about Islam!! But the world is catching on, only the PC MC media and political leaders give you cover but the common men know it and it is not far when Islam will be dumped into the dustbin of history!!

    • Philip

      Oh, give me a break. Do we look that stupid?

  • ross1948

    The key part of this article is its reference to the riots a few years ago. The police are still afraid to patrol those banlieues as they would patrol French neighbourhoods, and until alien enclaves within Paris – and other Western cities – are brought back into civilised society, more and more rabid creatures like Merah will emerge from them to wage war on the lands upon which they have intruded. See our expat blog for more on this. http://rossrightangle.wordpress.com/2012/03/23/no

  • ObamaYoMoma

    Even after French police had interrogated the soldiers and cleared them of suspicion, speculation persisted that the killer must have been a right-wing extremist rather than, as the evidence suggested, an Islamist.

    In other words, according to this writer, Mohammad Merah was a so-called radical Muslim as opposed to the vast overwhelming majority of Muslims in the world that are so-called moderate Muslims. It's kind of ironic that the writer decries the leftwing French media and at the same time exhibits the same kind of institutional PC multicultural blindness as the French media in his own writings. Indeed, the word Islamist is just a more politically correct way of saying radical Muslim.

    Anyway, what Mohammad Merah really was is a violent jihadists. Indeed, per the doctrines of Islam, ALL TRUE MUSLIMS are jihadists. A tiny minority of them are violent jihadists like Mohammad Merah, while the vast overwhelming majority of them are covert and deceptive non-violent jihadists, and the few of them that are not jihadists are not Muslims at all, but instead blasphemous apostates that per the dictates of mainstream orthodox Islam must be executed.

    The millions of covert and deceptive non-violent jihadists living in France today as a fifth column for the purpose of mass infiltration and stealth demographic conquest, for the time being, and according to the doctrine of necessity, i.e., darura, abide by French manmade laws while at the same time maintaining nothing but enmity in their hearts for those manmade laws. Eventually the time will come when they can replace those French manmade laws with Allah's law, i.e., Sharia, and at the same time render the French non-Muslim unbelievers into harsh and degrading dhimmitude. For the time being though all they have to do is bide their time patiently while trying not to invite too much scrutiny, focus, and attention on Islam. Of course, Merah's violent jihad attacks is a counterproductive setback for them.

    Destructive waves of riots by Muslim youth of North African origin in 2005 and again in 2010 revealed that France’s immigrant enclaves were hotbeds of extremism and separatism, where residents had little connection to and a violent resentment of French society at large.

    Actually, a few years ago France's government identified 758 Muslim no-go zones in France alone. But Muslim no-go zones aren't only present in France alone, Muslim no-go zones are sprinkled everywhere throughout Europe and the world and wherever mass Muslim immigration, which is really covert and deceptive non-violent jihad for the purpose of mass infiltration and stealth demographic conquest, is occurring. As Muslims never ever migrate to the West or anywhere else for that matter to assimilate and integrate, but instead to eventually subjugate and dominate via the eventual imposition of Sharia for the purpose of stealth demographic conquest to make Islam supreme.

    Indeed, I challenge anyone to cite just one example of Muslims assimilating and integrating and matriculating into contributing and productive citizens of their newly adoptive countries anywhere in the world.

    What could explain the motivation of a murderer who sought to kill in cold blood both Muslim soldiers and Jewish children?

    Easy he murdered the Muslim soldiers because in his mind they were blasphemous apostates and per the dictates of mainstream orthodox Islam, they must be executed, and he murdered the Jews because the Jews are the most hated of all non-Muslim unbelievers.

    Recently leaked correspondence between Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda’s American born media strategist Adam Gadahn shows that the terrorist organization has even started feeling guilty about killing so many Muslims in places like Iraq, so much so it has attributed its recent setbacks to “the tragedy of tolerating the spilling of [Muslim] blood.”

    I hate to keep raining on the writer's parade again, but the perception that AQ is a terrorist organization as opposed to a violent jihad organization is just another false PC multicultural myth. Muslims only fight jihad in the cause of Allah against non-Muslim unbelievers to make Islam supreme. Meanwhile, terrorism, on the other hand, can be for any number of political causes other than in the cause of Allah and is considered a blasphemous capital offense in Islam.

    On the other hand, the practice of Muslims like AQ regularly killing other Muslims is called takfir, which amounts to declaring other Muslims un-Islamic and therefore blasphemous.

    Now there is an ongoing debate within the Islamic world over the efficacy of violent jihad vs. the efficacy of covert and deceptive non-violent jihad, and the covert and deceptive non-violent jihadists for all intents and purposes have won that debate citing the fact that violent jihad invites counterproductive wars against Muslims and unwanted scrutiny, focus, and attention on Islam.

    –continued below

    • Ericson

      Islam can go to hell! I have had enough explanations on the many variations of Islamic law. Western people must come to the conclusion that Islam is our enemy and must be defeated by the same means they intend to defeat us.

  • ObamaYoMoma

    Religious radicalism is now a major force in France’s Muslim immigrant-populated suburbs, as the eruptions of violence in the past decade attest.

    Again, the notion that Islam is a faith-based religion is another false PC multicultural myth. First and foremost, Islam requires total, complete, and unconditional submission to the will of Allah, while at the same time forbidding the freedom of conscience, and it enforces that tenet by making blasphemy and apostasy capital offenses. Indeed, Islam is 100 percent totalitarian.

    What Islam is instead is a supremacist theo-political totalitarian ideology that masquerades as being a faith-based religion to dupe the gullible societies it intends to subjugate into a very draconian form of Islamic totalitarianism.

    “The same way you threaten our security, we are threatening your security,” bin Laden declared in an October 2010 message.

    The only reason that Muslims can attack the West today via violent jihad attacks is because of mass Muslim immigration to the West that is really covert and deceptive non-violent jihad for the purpose of mass infiltration and stealth demographic conquest, and it is allowed to occur today throughout the West totally uncontested and unopposed for two reasons.

    First, because jihad, which is total warfare that employs both violent and non-violent means, is always conflated as being terrorism, which as its name implies is always only violent. Thus, because covert and deceptive non-violent jihad is non-violent by design, since it isn't violent it isn't construed as being terrorism, and if it isn't construed as being terrorism, then it isn't contested or opposed.

    Second, because of the prevailing false PC multicultural myth that Islam is a so-called Religion of Peace™ being hijacked by a tiny minority of extremists and the vast overwhelming majority of Muslims in the world are moderate and peaceful Muslims, in which the writer of this article strictly adheres to as his use of the false PC multicultural term Islamist indicates.

    The reality instead is first as already explained above, Islam is not a faith-based religion at all but instead a supremacist theo-political totalitarian ideology masquerading as a religion, and second all true Muslims are jihadists, either violent jihadists (a tiny minority) or covert and deceptive non-violent jihadists (the vast overwhelming majority).

    Therefore, if the West outlawed Islam on the grounds that Islam isn't really a faith-based religion but instead a supremacist theo-political totalitarian ideology that masquerades as being a religion only to dupe the gullible societies it intends to subjugate into a very draconian form of Islamic totalitarianism and at the same time banned and reversed mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage on the grounds that it is really covert and deceptive non-violent jihad for the purpose of mass infiltration and stealth demographic conquest, violent jihad attacks in the West would become virtually impossible, the exponentially far greater threat of mass infiltration and stealth demographic conquest would be completely eliminated, and the hundreds of billions of dollars being spent now to protect against violent jihad attacks in the West could be used for something else.

    It’s true of course that there was no way to know immediately that the Toulouse killer was a Muslim radical and an al-Qaeda sympathizer.

    He was radical only in the sense that he was one of the tiny minority of Muslims in the world that constitutes violent jihadists, as opposed to the vast overwhelming majority of Muslims in the world that constitutes covert and deceptive non-violent jihadists. However, just like covert and deceptive non-violent jihadists, he was a mainstream orthodox Muslim that adhered to mainstream orthodox Islam. Hence, he isn't a radical Muslim. Instead, he is a violent jihadist. Thus, Merah was a violent jihadist and AQ sympathizer, as AQ is a violent jihadists organization.

    Indeed, often times covert and non-violent jihadists will cooperate with Western authorities to stop violent jihadists attacks, because they view such violent jihad attacks as being counterproductive because it may invite wars against Muslims and at the very least it attracts unwanted scrutiny, focus, and attention on Islam.

    Now this doesn't mean that covert and deceptive non-violent jihadists won't revert to violent offensive jihad when the situation is ripe, because they absolutely will, but in the meantime they will bide their time patiently out of necessity (darura) until such time arrives.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      Fascism by any other name is just as restrictive and abusive.

  • kentatwater

    Zagging, the problem is that some here are not familiar with the site to which you are linking, and don't realize that the name of the site is bitterly ironic.

    Poppakap and stern, Zagging is not leading you astray. It's actually a very informative site!

  • trickyblain

    "In keeping with its ideologically preferred suspect, one popular press theory was that the Toulouse murderer was one of the neo-Nazi soldiers dismissed from the French army in 2008 after being photographed giving the Nazi salute behind a Swastika-emblazoned flag."

    Press theory? It was a police theory. Regardless, good riddance to the child-killing scum.

    • kentatwater

      Press theory? It was a police theory

      The two are mutually exclusive? I did not know that. /sarc

      Regardless, good riddance to the child-killing scum.

      Agreed. The frequent cop movie line, "Please resist arrest…please" was tailored for animals such as he.

  • UCSPanther

    I fear we will see more incidents like Utoya and Toulouse in Europe as time goes on and racial and religious tensions start tearing more viciously at the social fabric. .

  • stern

    Sorry Zagging, checked out your site and I see now that you arguing for the exact opposite of Jamil's point of view. Perhaps you should consider explaining yourself a bit more before suggesting sites to us? I for one would have gone there far quicker.
    Thanks!

  • Bashy Quraishy

    About two hours after Mohamed Merah’s death, French President Nicolas Sarkozy ( no friend of Islam or Muslims) actually addressed the French nation and said; “ There is no evidence that there were accomplices in this crime”.

    It is also believed that Mohammed Mehar was inspired by Norwegian Anders Breivik ( a self confessed Christian fundamentalist and a Christian warrior), who last year shot and killed 77 innocent people in a cold blooded massacre on the island Utøya in Norway. In his 1,500-page manifesto that he published on the web, he recommended other extremists to shoot their works with a small camera strapped to the body.

    This is exactly what this French terrorist did. To call his hideous crime as Islamic is the worst form of anti-Islam nonsense but then again, what can one expect from a blog, which thrives on an anti-Islam trademark and excels in dishing out all the worst, there is on internet.

    FrontPage should have also mentioned that this French lunatic also killed 3 soldiers whose religion was Islam.
    We know from history how Nazis blamed all the ills in the German society on Jews. Is the history repeating itself?
    The answer is blowing in the pages of FrontPage.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      Of course those members of the religion of peace (sarcasm) never read things like this….

      9:29 Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.

    • Ghostwriter

      Well,Bashy,this guy sounds like someone you would like. If this lunatic killed Americans,you and your ilk probably wouldn't shed a tear.

    • kentatwater

      FrontPage should have also mentioned that this French lunatic also killed 3 soldiers whose religion was Islam.

      Wow. You're absolutely right! Muslims never kill other Muslims, especially other Muslims who wear the uniform of a non-sharia-compliant country's military.

      What were we thinking?!

    • Lisa_H

      "FrontPage should have also mentioned that this French lunatic also killed 3 soldiers whose religion was Islam."
      ____
      I notice you refer to Mehar as a French lunatic yet you leave out that he is also a Muslim of Algerian descent who trained in al Qaeda camps and who boasted that he murdered those little Jewish girls to avenge the death of Palestinian children.

      And you evidently did not read Laksin's article on which you are commenting because he explains very well why Mehar would be motivated to kill Muslim soldiers.

      Yet you hang your hat on Mehar's similarity to Breivik (who was BTW NOT a Christian fundamentalist) based on his filming his murderous acts? You, sir, are very selective with the facts to the point of distorting the truth.

  • Bashy Quraishy

    "ObamaYoMoma" says "Therefore, if the West outlawed Islam on the grounds that Islam isn't really a faith-based religion but instead a supremacist theo-political totalitarian ideology that masquerades as being a religion only to dupe the gullible societies it intends to subjugate into a very draconian form of Islamic totalitarianism and at the same time banned and reversed mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage on the grounds that it is really covert and deceptive non-violent jihad for the purpose of mass infiltration and stealth demographic conquest, violent jihad attacks in the West would become virtually impossible".
    And this is coming from a guy who does not have the moral courage even to use his own name in blogs and never gets tired of stupid theories of resistance against imaginary Muslim conquest and non-existent Islamization of the west by Islam and to protect democracy, western Christian values and White race.
    WOW, what a revelation that he wants to ban the 2nd largest religion in the world and calls the western societies as; gullible societies.
    This guy deserves to stand in US Republican primaries to replace the heavy minded Newt, good for nothing Mitt and religious fanatic Rick. The world will be a safer place!

    • kentatwater

      this is coming from a guy who does not have the moral courage even to use his own name in blogs

      Do tell, Bashy Quraishy..

      • reader

        Good one. These clowns clone Obama (or the other way around) even in spewing pure idiotism with condescending tone. Amazingly, it's worked it 2008. I hope this is nearing the end of their ride at our expense.

      • curmudgeon

        nice short version, kent. let me expound on the obvious. any fool that wants to use a real name to promote islam is perfectly safe. "islamophobes" dont kill people who disagree with them, even the mortal enemies of our civilization and way of life, so bashy can reveal his name in perfect safety, but he doesnt, because he is too cowardly to take credit for his support of the religion of pure evil. on the other hand, anyone who would use a real name to tell the truth about the religion of pure evil is either suicidal, or one of a handful who have the means to protect themselves from the religion of peace.

  • Bashy Quraishy

    Many anti-Islam western commentators intentionally forget that in the west, individuals are judged by their actions. They are punished for what they do and not what religion, culture and colour they have.
    Have I misunderstood something in this centuries old tradition?
    We do not accuse Christ, Christianity or the Church for what Norwegian Anders Breivik or US army sergeant did. We accuse them for their cold-blooded crimes. I hope that this simple fact seeps in the hollow minds of those who have double morals and hypocrisy when it comes to crimes committed by people with Muslim background.
    But then again, at the moment in USA most people normally shy away from logic or reason in dealing with other nations and cultures. Here you shoot first and ask questions later. Is this the residue of all those criminals and cast out people, Europe exported to the “Land of free” over the centuries? The whole slaughtering of native Indians, with Bible in one hand and the gun in the others tells a lot. But for that Americans have to read their own history before pointing a finger at others.
    Good luck with this assignment!

    • reader

      "We do not accuse Christ, Christianity or the Church for what Norwegian Anders Breivik or US army sergeant did. We accuse them for their cold-blooded crimes."

      This is a big lie. First of all, Bervik was after Norwegian socialist elite, not muslim immigrants, per se. Secondly, long before he came along, a murderous pedephile accused Jews and Christians of the crime of being infidels:
      http://www.amazon.com/dp/0971534632/?tag=googhydr

    • kentatwater

      The handy thing about straw men, is they are so easy to knock down.

      Many anti-Islam western commentators intentionally forget that in the west, individuals are judged by their actions.

      False. First, by failing to name names, you can attack a looming shadow puppet. You can hold your hand in front of a candle, and cast the shadow of devil horns on the wall, and say, "Look! An anti-islam western commentator!"

      Let's examine a particular example. Robert Spencer fit the mold of an honest reporter on the substance of islam, and how the conduct of some Muslims can be directly traced to the teachings of the islamic holy books. Please cite first source examples of how Mr. Spencer fails to "judge people by their actions." I understand that some will see Mr. Spencer's position on the issue, and immediately dismiss him as a bigot, but then, those people would be doing exactly that which you accuse the "anti-islam western commentators" of doing. Eric Allen Bell wrote of his epiphany with regards to Mr. Spencer. He admits that he once thought of Mr. Spencer as a “hater,” but learned differently upon taking the time to read one of his books.

      It’s odd, that when the converse occurs, and an individual sits down to read the koran, he has a reverse epiphany. He realizes that what all the “haters” say about the teachings contained therein, are actually true.

      We do not accuse Christ, Christianity or the Church for what Norwegian Anders Breivik…did.

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/26/anders-b

      You were saying?

      Fact is, whenever an act of terror occurs, when it occurs in such a place where it is at least plausible that the act could have been committed by a non-Muslim (such as a European country or the US), the left falls over itself, in an attempt to attribute it to a “homegrown” terrorist, and if it’s not stated explicitly, it is strongly implied that their motivation is likely brought about from some form of Christian extremism. And when the facts don’t fit this narrative, they are simply made up. Timothy McVeigh stated on many different occasions, on record, that he was not a Christian, and yet the mainstream media, and the even farther leftward tributaries of that stream, cast him as one.

      The big difference between Christian terrorists, and islamic terrorists, is that the former is motivated by a twisted interpretation of the Bible, but the islamic terrorist can point to sura and verse in the koran to justify his murders.

      But then again, at the moment in USA most people normally shy away from logic or reason in dealing with other nations and cultures.

      Evidence? The US is a haven of cultural and genetic diversity. There are cultures far more insular, almost to the point of xenophobic. Many Asian cultures look upon outsiders as inferior. Some will try to make the argument, that because Americans’ conduct with regards to other nations and cultures is not always saintly, we must be knuckle-dragging troglodytes. They forget the axiom, “let not perfection, be the enemy of the merely good.”

      Here you shoot first and ask questions later.

      Evidence? Before the Toulouse shooter’s ID was known, French police and press both appeared to speculate that the shooter was non-Muslim. If conservatives are a little too ready to attribute an act of terrorism to Muslims, it is due to 1) the left-leaning media’s bad habit of indulging in assumptions that the perp is anyone other than a Muslim (bias fatigue), or 2) simple probabilities (in other words, past performance is no guarantee of future results, but that’s the way to bet).

      Is this the residue of all those criminals and cast out people, Europe exported to the “Land of free” over the centuries?

      Meaningless throwaway rhetoric. If this thesis were to hold, Australia would be a nazi-like regime. The US is populated by people whose ancestors arrived under a broad variety of circumstances.

      The whole slaughtering of native Indians, with Bible in one hand and the gun in the others tells a lot.

      The whole slaughtering of Christians by Muslims tells a lot, too. Namely, people have been killing each other for as long as there has been history, and no doubt beyond. An excuse is always easy to find. Pol Pot killed any Cambodian who wore glasses.

      But for that Americans have to read their own history before pointing a finger at others.

      The implication being, of course, that American’s who expect that the latest act of terror was perpetrated by a Muslim or Muslims. are ignorant. Well, the past decade has demonstrated that the converse is true, and they are actually pretty well-informed.

    • Stephen_Brady

      My Comanche name is Tsa Hinu Supanitu Isa, which means "Wolf that knows all". Our people left the reservations long ago and integrated into American society. Our family has prospered and grown in this most exceptional nation in the world. And we are ALL Christians, who support Israel to the max, against your "peaceful" co-religionists.

      We know the face of Islam, and we know that it is not peaceful. Go tell your lies to someone who will believe them …

      • kentatwater

        your "peaceful" co-religionists

        Stephen, I'm with you one everything you said, save the above. There's virtually no chance the poster's name is really Bashy Quraishy. There is a left wing apparatchik by that name, who's fond of berets and hanging out with other racial demagogues like Jesse Jackson, but I seriously doubt he'd be posting here, especially without an anchored account such as one from IntenseDebate.

    • ObamaYoMoma

      And this is coming from a guy who does not have the moral courage even to use his own name in blogs and never gets tired of stupid theories of resistance against imaginary Muslim conquest and non-existent Islamization of the west by Islam and to protect democracy, western Christian values and White race.

      Okay Bashy Quraishi what's your real name moonbat?

      Moreover, Islamic conquest is hardly a theory, it's a 100 percent documented historical fact. Hell, most of the documentation comes directly from Islamic sources, as they meticulously documented it themselves. Of course, that reality is deliberately not taught to you delusional Euroloons. Hence, no wonder you are so mentally incompetent.

      With respect to western Christian values and White race. Let's just suffice it to say that I'm not into the suppression of freedom of expression, freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, into stoning married women to death who are victims of gang rapes, into selling our daughters into child sexual slavery to men old enough to be their great grandfathers, into treating women like property, into persecuting and violently oppressing all non-Muslims, into amputations and beheadings. With respect to the White race, I'm also not an unhinged guilt filled and mentally incompetent racist like you.

      WOW, what a revelation that he wants to ban the 2nd largest religion in the world and calls the western societies as; gullible societies.

      Islam is not a religion. It's a supremacist theo-political totalitarian ideology that masquerades as being a religion to dupe gullible useful idiots like you. Indeed moonbat, look at the Islamic world, how many Islamic countries aren't totalitarian hellholes that not only oppress their own people, but also violently oppress and systematically persecute, when not outright slaughtering them altogether, the Christians and all other non-Muslim unbelievers living in their draconian totalitarian Islamic hellholes as less than second class dhimmi citizens?

      Many anti-Islam western commentators intentionally forget that in the west, individuals are judged by their actions.

      Okay moonbat, everywhere and anywhere mass Muslim immigration is occurring in the West, just like clockwork the vast overwhelming majority of Muslim immigrants flat out refuse to assimilate and integrate and instead form Muslim enclaves that in time morph into Muslim no-go zones ruled by Sharia as fifth columns and tiny statelets within states, and in direct contravention to the laws of the states in which they reside. Okay, explain those actions moonbat.

      Moreover, once again Christians and all other non-Muslim unbelievers living as less than second class dhimmi citizens in Islamic draconian totalitarian hellholes are violently oppressed and systematically persecuted, when not outright slaughtered altogether, Okay, explain those actions moonbat.

      Furthermore, everywhere in the world where Muslim countries border non-Muslim countries, those borders are extremely bloody because the surrounding Muslim countries are waging jihad against those non-Muslim countries, Okay, explain those actions moonbat.

      Actually, I don't really think you ignore those actions, rather I think you are so myopic and narrow-minded that you are utterly oblivious. In other words, like most delusional leftwing Euroloons, you are extremely mentally handicapped because you have been conditioned to look only where your political elites guide you to look.

      They are punished for what they do and not what religion, culture and colour they have.

      I don't know what planet you live on or what you are smoking, but no one in the West is punished because of religion or color, at least not in America. Meanwhile, in the Islamic world, blacks are being tortured and slaughtered in mass in Sudan and Libya today.

      Not to mention again that in all draconian totalitarian Islamic hellholes today, Christians and all other non-Muslim unbelievers living as less than second class dhimmi citizens are violently oppressed and systematically persecuted, when not outright slaughtered altogether.

      Indeed, the Islamic world is waging a stealth jihad globally against all non-Muslim unbelievers in the world, and the fact that you are so oblivious of it, is also a product of that same stealth global jihad. In other words, you didn't become this mentally incompetent by accident.

      With respect to America, if you emigrate to America either leave your culture behind or don't emigrate, because unlike you unhinged and incredibly delusional Euroloons, we don't tolerate immigrants that refuse to assimilate and integrate and become Americans.

      Have I misunderstood something in this centuries old tradition?

      Yes, you have misunderstood the fact that Islam is not a religion, but instead a supremacist theo-political totalitarian ideology that masquerades as being a religion to dupe gullible useful idiots like you.

      –continued below

    • ObamaYoMoma

      We do not accuse Christ, Christianity or the Church for what Norwegian Anders Breivik or US army sergeant did.

      Actually, that's complete and utter BS! Read your own leftwing hijacked media!

      We accuse them for their cold-blooded crimes

      Wow, you accuse them? I don't know what they are putting in the water over where you Euroloon moonbats live, but you need to stop drinking it.

      We do not accuse Christ, Christianity or the Church for what Norwegian Anders Breivik or US army sergeant did. We accuse them for their cold-blooded crimes. I hope that this simple fact seeps in the hollow minds of those who have double morals and hypocrisy when it comes to crimes committed by people with Muslim background. But then again, at the moment in USA most people normally shy away from logic or reason in dealing with other nations and cultures.

      Oh, in other words, because of one Norwegian schizoid and because of one American on his 4th tour of duty that was suffering from Combat Operational Stress cracked, that in your warped mind somehow creates a silly and asinine moral equivalence between Western civilization and Islamic civilization, and thus we are all supposed to ignore the fact from now on that the Islamic world is waging a stealth global jihad against all non-Muslim unbelievers in the world, while also ignoring at the same time the way that Christians and all other non-Muslim unbelievers living under draconian totalitarian Islamic rule are violently oppressed and systematically persecuted, when not outright slaughtered altogether. With all due disrespect, thanks to the hijacked Euroloon education system, you and your fellow Euroloons have been rendered into mental incompetents. We don't call you moonbats Euroloons for nothing.

      Here you shoot first and ask questions later. Is this the residue of all those criminals and cast out people, Europe exported to the “Land of free” over the centuries?

      Uhm…I believe you have us confused with Australia. On the other hand, the Euros that migrated to America represented a massive brain drain, which is why Europe has been in steep decline ever since.

      The whole slaughtering of native Indians, with Bible in one hand and the gun in the others tells a lot. But for that Americans have to read their own history before pointing a finger at others. Good luck with this assignment!

      Look you moonbat excuse me if we Americans don't suffer from an unhinged guilt complex because our ancestors conquered the Indians. As before they arrived the Indians conquered their fellow Indians, and in turn were conquered themselves by other Indians.

      Meanwhile, the history of the world is replete with nothing but one tribe, culture, or civilization conquering another tribe, culture, or civilization before being conquered themselves by another tribe, culture, or civilization. Indeed, it's human nature. Why should anyone feel guilty for human nature?

      Indeed, do you think the Muslims that are currently in the process of stealth demographic conquest of Europe will somehow feel guilty or something? Do you believe that in the not too distant future when you Euroloons are rendered into harsh and degrading dhimmitude by Muslims that they will somehow feel sorry for you moonbats and take it easy on you morons. If you do, then look inside the totalitarian Islamic world at the Christians and all other non-Muslim unbelievers living there today as less than second class dhimmi citizens for a preview of what is in store for you mentally deficient Euroloons in the not too distant future once you have been rendered into harsh and degrading dhimmitude. Like I said, we Americans don't call you moonbats living across the pond delusional Euroloons for nothing.

    • Philip

      Your right, but when we made the rule, we didn't know what Islam was really like. We hadn't seen an imperial religion bent on conquest in hundreds of years. You can't chase down ten or twenty million fanatics. You have to strike at the religion's centers of power before you can have any effect. So the current crop of mullas in the mosques has to go. If that doesn't work, then the mosques have to go. Whatever it takes, we must convince the Muslim world that Islam is not a ticket to world domination. They need to go back to the peaceful version they keep talking about.

  • gerard

    Bashy You well know that while the propaganda machine were rushing to depict Norwegian killer as Christian right wing in order to bring up the "Obama equivalence doctrine", the evidence shows the contrary, He was an occultist means a satanist.. i'm an african, i'm well aware the fruits of Islam… it's not religion of peace…this religion has been indoctrinating young children to hate the jews.. I honestly was chocked when i learn from my somalis friend little brothers that they hated the jewish people… what somalis has to do with Israel the equations? they are muslims? The hadiths and Surahs are full of scriptures explaining the muslims goals of eliminating the enemies of Islam, "jews"
    if you want a lecture on how Islam and muslim are peaceful, go to visit the christian coptic in Egypt, or christians in Sudan, Somalia, Nigeria or in all those Islamists countries.. Shame on u… big liar

  • Bashy Quraishy

    Dear kentatwater
    Thank you for a detailed answer to my comment.
    It will be difficult to have a ping pong with all the commentators on FrontPage blog because they keep repeating the same old argument that Muslims live their lives according to Quran and Prophet’s life.
    There are many international surveys like PEW and Gallop from USA, which have documented that 85% Muslims do not go to a mosque and live their lives according to Islamic teaching.
    I have a Muslim background. I do not get up in the morning and say; Let us see, what Quran says about shopping in the super market or my meeting with the former Chief Rabbi of Denmark. That is not how life works, but in the most western eyes, all Muslims follow Quran to the letter. They do not.
    Then to attribute terrorism and violence to Quran, which was revealed almost 1500 years ago in a tribal society and has a particular historical context, is not only wrong but also dishonest. Quran has some Suras, which can and are interpreted by terrorists exactly as you say, “by a twisted interpretation of the Bible”. Why this argument is not valid for a terrorist with Muslim background. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. If a terrorist points to Sura and verse in the Quran to justify his murders, then it is his idiotic action, we should condemn and not what he says, he understood. There are mad people in all religions, who believe that they have the right to commit violence. Hitler also used Christianity as an excuse to murder 6 million Jews, while the Pope looked the other way and USA did business with Nazis until the last moment.
    There is a very appropriate quotation from Bible, which all Christians should remember when criticizing Islam and Muslims;
    “You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see … 6“ Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before … and then you will see clearly how to remove the splinter from your brother's eye. Greater than the fault you condemn and criticise is the sin of criticism and condemnation”. Mattew 7:5
    I rest my case!

    • dave

      If you knew anything about Hitler you would know that he hated Christianity and was an occultist who wanted to bring in a pagan 'new age'. Jesus to him was a 'vile Jew' and he detested Judaism for giving the world 'Ethics' which he thought poisoned the mind as it gave us a moral conscience he wanted to destroy. Destroying the Jews represented this 'rebirth' of mankind into the new age. This is well documented.
      Most Germans followed Hitler just like Muslims follow Mohammed. Most just want a quiet life but are happy with their ideology and leave the violence and politics to others. This is how Islam and Nazism work.
      The violence in Islam is prescriptive and has no time frame. Whereas in the Bible it is descriptive and historic.
      To be honest, I don't really care about the theology anymore, actions speak louder than words and the world is slowly but surely understanding what Islam is about. The pressing question is what are we going to do about it in the West? What values are we defending? What do we stand for? Post modern liberalism is not strong enough to defend anymore, we have to redefine what our values are in order to present a united front against Islam.

    • kentatwater

      It will be difficult to have a ping pong with all the commentators on FrontPage blog because they keep repeating the same old argument that Muslims live their lives according to Quran and Prophet’s life.

      First, FPM is not a blog. Your backhand attempt to diminish by mis-characterizing that which you do not care for is hard to miss. Nearly every sentence you write employs this technique.

      Please provide a link to an article posted on FPM which asserts that all Muslims live according to the koran and moe's life. (I know you didn't say "all." That was yet another bit of wordsmithing. You get to float the implication, without committing to it. Cowardly, but skillful.) The thesis of many articles I've read on FPM, are that most Muslims are not unusually violent, but as they become more committed to the texts and their prophet, they grow in violence.

      There are many international surveys like PEW and Gallop from USA, which have documented that 85% Muslims do not go to a mosque and live their lives according to Islamic teaching.

      Non-sequitor. This factoid is intended to support the straw man I've already knocked down.

      I have a Muslim background.

      I don't care. I'll listen to your views or beliefs, and weight them on their merits. Your religion, skin color, or geographical provenance mean little to me.

      but in the most western eyes, all Muslims follow Quran to the letter.

      Still feed chaff into that already dismissed straw man.

      Then to attribute terrorism and violence to Quran, which was revealed almost 1500 years ago in a tribal society and has a particular historical context, is not only wrong but also dishonest.

      The where and when of its writing is irrelevant. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a fraud crafted by anti-Semites, but its falsity does not impair its ability to motivate many to hate Jews.

      Quran has some Suras, which can and are interpreted by terrorists…

      "Seek out your enemies relentlessly." (Surah 4:104)

    • kentatwater

      "Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)

      "Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]…until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:29)

      "Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home." (Surah 9:73)

      "Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Surah 48:29)

      "The Day of Resurrection will not arrive until the Moslems make war against the Jews and kill them, and until a Jew hiding behind a rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: 'Oh Moslem, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!'" (Sahih Bukhari 004.52.176)

      Why this argument is not valid for a terrorist with Muslim background.

      I assume you intended this to be a question. Well, here's the answer. With the rate at which acts of terrorism are committed by Muslims, compared to rates of terrorism committed by other faiths or philosophies, one has to ask why Muslims stand out…by several orders of magnitude. It's not the racial makeup of the Muslims, surely, because the religion spans virtually all ethnicities. It's not environmental factors (save possibly those brought about by the consequences of living under sharia), because islam spans the globe. The common thread is the religion…and religion which happens to have holy books with instruction in them, like those detailed above.

      If a terrorist points to Sura and verse in the Quran to justify his murders, then it is his idiotic action, we should condemn and not what he says, he understood.

      Never mind the religious authorities within islam who issue lethal fatwahs, and who proclaim the righteousness of the acts of terrorists.

      There are mad people in all religions, who believe that they have the right to commit violence.

      You won't get argument from me, that there is much madness in the koran and hadith, but if you believe that madness is the word of your creator, it's understandable that they would feel justified.

    • kentatwater

      Hitler also used Christianity as an excuse to murder 6 million Jews

      Hitler used Christianity to make the Reich more palatable to the Lutheran population of Germany. The upper echelons of of the Nazi Party was a viper's nest of neopaganism of its own creation.

      To say Hitler used Christianity as an excuse may be true in one interpretation, but it is most definitely not true, that the "excuse" was brought about by a twisted Christian faith. He was not a Christian.

      the Pope looked the other way and USA did business with Nazis until the last moment.

      Imprecise relation of history, but such a statement means nothing with regards to the matter at hand.

      There is a very appropriate quotation from Bible, which all Christians should remember when criticizing Islam and Muslims

      There is criticism, and then there is criticism. An interpretation of the Bible, which asserts that the Bible teaches to be silent in the face of rank evil, is a false interpretation.

      I rest my case!

      Somehow, I doubt that. We'll see. In the meantime, I and others here will sweep away the dross from all the felled straw men.

      And BTW, not responding directly to my post, nor dropping a note in response to my post, letting me know you responded, in a bid that I may not see your response and therefore let your drivel go unchallenged, is an act of a coward.

      • ObamaYoMoma

        If a terrorist points to Sura and verse in the Quran to justify his murders, then it is his idiotic action, we should condemn and not what he says, he understood.

        First of all, you are conflating what is really jihad with being terrorism and the two mutually exclusive manifestations are completely separate, different, and very distinct manifestations altogether. Again, per the dictates of Islam, all Muslims are jihadists, either violent jihadists (a tiny minority of Muslims) or otherwise covert and deceptive non-violent jihadists (the vast overwhelming majority of Muslims), and the few that are not jihadists are not Muslims at all, but instead blasphemous apostates that per the dictates of mainstream orthodox Islam must be executed.

        There are mad people in all religions,

        Per your replacement theology and new religion of PC multiculturalism, stop conflating and morally equating Islam with religions, because again Islam is a supremacist theo-political totalitarian ideology that masquerades as being a religion to dupe gullible useful idiots like you.

        Hitler also used Christianity as an excuse to murder 6 million Jews

        Actually, that is complete and utter BS! Hitler and his henchmen were into the occult. They definitely weren't Christians.

        while the Pope looked the other way and USA did business with Nazis until the last moment.

        Why do all you unhinged delusional Euroloons like clockwork attack Christianity like moronic bigots in response to Islamic conquest? Is it something they are putting in the water? What can make all you moonbats act like zombies and unhinged mind controlled robots?

        There is a very appropriate quotation from Bible, which all Christians should remember when criticizing Islam and Muslims;
        “You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see … 6“ Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before … and then you will see clearly how to remove the splinter from your brother's eye. Greater than the fault you condemn and criticise is the sin of criticism and condemnation”. Mattew 7:5
        I rest my case!

        Seek mental help for your severe issues with mental problems.

    • ObamaYoMoma

      that Muslims live their lives according to Quran and Prophet’s life.

      Can you prove and demonstrate otherwise? Let's see, a few years ago the government of France counted 758 Muslim no-go zones in France alone, and sprinkled throughout Europe there are well over a thousand Muslim no-go zones ruled by Sharia where covert jihadists live as fifth columns in tiny statelets within states. Are you really dumb enough to deny the obvious? Apparently! Like I said we Americans don't call you moonbats delusional Euroloons for nothing.

      There are many international surveys like PEW and Gallop from USA, which have documented that 85% Muslims do not go to a mosque and live their lives according to Islamic teaching.

      Link??? Come on put your money where your unhinged mouth is!

      I have a Muslim background.

      I swear every unhinged delusional Euroloon claims to have a Muslim background or are otherwise there best friends are Muslims. It must be something they are putting in the water or something.

      Then to attribute terrorism and violence to Quran, which was revealed almost 1500 years ago in a tribal society and has a particular historical context, is not only wrong but also dishonest

      Uhm…Muslims don't perpetrate terrorism, as terrorism is strictly an un-Islamic manifestation and considered to be blasphemy in the Islamic world, and blasphemy, like apostasy, is a capital offense under Islam. Muslims fight jihad instead, which is holy fighting in the cause of Allah against non-Muslim unbelievers to make Islam supreme and that consist of total warfare which includes both violent and non-violent means. Meanwhile, terrorism, on the other hand, as its name implies can only be violent and can be for any political cause other than in the cause of Allah.

      Moreover, covert and deceptive non-violent jihad, such as mass Muslim immigration to the West for the purpose of mass infiltration and stealth demographic conquest, is employed today by the Islamic world against the West astronomically far more prevalently and constitutes an exponentially far greater threat to the peace and security of the West relative to violent jihad.

      Nevertheless, it's also undeniable that Muslims perpetrate the most heinous acts of violence against innocents around the world, and all of it is in the cause of Allah against non-Muslim unbelievers to make Islam supreme. In fact, atrocious Islamic acts of violence are so monstrous that most people are completely unaware of the fact that covert and deceptive non-violent jihad, such as mass Muslim immigration to the West for the purpose of mass infiltration and stealth demographic conquest, represents an astronomically far greater threat to the peace and security of the West.

      By the way, I hate to rain on your gullible useful idiot parade moonbat, but Islam is not quite 1400 years old.

      Quran has some Suras, which can and are interpreted by terrorists exactly as you say, “by a twisted interpretation of the Bible”.

      Of course, you delusional Euroloon religious bigots love to morally equate Islam to Christianity to intentionally denigrate Christianity. However, again Islam is not a religion, instead it is a supremacist theo-political totalitarian ideology that masquerades as being a religion to dupe the gullible societies it intends subjugate into a very draconian form of Islamic totalitarianism via the imposition of Sharia for the purpose of stealth demographic conquest to make Islam supreme.

      In any event, Islam's infamous sword verses of the Koran were some of the very last verses issued by Muhammad shortly before his death. Thus, per the doctrine of abrogation, which is universally taught and advocated by all major schools of Islamic jurisprudence in both Sunni and Shi'a Islam and is universally accepted by all Sunni and Shi'a Muslims in the world, those infamous sword verses, which commands all Muslims on earth to fight jihad in the cause of Allah against all non-Muslim unbelievers until Islam is made supreme throughout the world, abrogate, i.e., supersede and replace, all earlier issued peaceful verses of the Koran they conflict with and contradict.

      Furthermore, the sixth and most important pillar of Islam also make it an obligatory duty in Islam for every Muslim on earth to fight jihad in the cause of Allah against non-Muslim unbelievers to make Islam supreme.

      Now, you may discount this, but in stark contrast to faith-based religions like Christianity and Judaism, for instance, Islam, first and foremost, requires all Muslims to totally, completely, and unconditionally submit to the will of Allah, while at the same time forbidding the freedom of conscience, and to enforce that first and foremost tenet of Islam, it makes blasphemy and apostasy capital offenses.

      Indeed, Islam is 100 percent totalitarian. Thus, any Muslim that is not either a violent jihadist (a tiny minority of Muslims) or otherwise a covert and deceptive non-violent jihadist (the vast overwhelming majority of Muslims) is a blasphemous apostate that per the dictates of mainstream orthodox Islam must be executed.

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    • kafir4life

      Bashy…..the koran wasn't so much "revealed" as it was "shat". Your "prophet" mohamat the pig faced maniac (this is documented as true. I have a book that says so, and in the beginning of the book it proclaims that everything in it is true, so it is) was having sex with, then later a meal of one of his favorite pigs, but failed to cook it properly, and as a result had a massive case of intestinal distress. What followed from his bowels is what is now commonly refered to as the "koran", which coincidentally translates to "very loose sh*t".

  • Bashy Quraishy

    “With the rate at which acts of terrorism are committed by Muslims, compared to rates of terrorism committed by other faiths or philosophies, one has to ask why Muslims stand out…by several orders of magnitude.” So says kentatwater in reply to me.

    The answer is very simple.

    As much as I dislike giving analytical explanations for individual actions, it is necessary to educate the ignorant souls, in this case the Americans and their war mongering and Islam hating allies.
    Before USA and NATO started invading Muslim lands one by one to plunder their resources and install puppet regimes; there was almost no violence against innocent people committed by people with the Islamic faith.

    Political violence is the direct result of these atrocities, bombing, killing, torturing and looting of innocent people who have no other means to hit back. This is the law of the nature and a strategy adopted by a tiny minority to get even. It is deplorable, un-Islamic and should never happen but we do not live in an ideal world. It is regrettable that like all religions, Islam has its fair share of lunatics and zealots who commit crimes and use religion to explain their hideous acts. USA has its strategic interests, which it peruses with relentless power, leaving blood, bones and flesh on the away. This bloodthirsty nation has a long history of crimes against humanity – right from the extermination of native Indians, slavery, interference in other countries, invasions – the list is long – and now to advance cola/burger empire. It is just one thing, Americans – not all but neo-cons and Islam haters – have forgotten. Empires come and go. Good ones leave footprints on the road to eternity, evil ones are stored in the cabbage cane of history. USA can choose, where it wishes to belong. I wish it well because it had and still have potential but its leaders are selfish, arrogant and spineless. That has rubbed on its people too.

    Having said that it is vital for me to put it strongly that the unprovoked violence, killing of innocent persons and destruction of someone’s property is forbidden in all societies, cultures and religions. It is despicable, creates conflicts and can and should not be tolerated. At the same time, it is also important to emphasis that whenever an act of terrorism against an ethnic or religious minority takes place in a particular country, the police, authorities and the media has a responsibility to calm the situation and not create an atmosphere of fear, distrust and anger. The same is true for the leaders and representatives of the victim community.

    • kentatwater

      When you're ready to reply directly to me, coward, I'll be ready to respond.

    • Howard

      I am going to say this as briefly and nicely as possible.

      You are a neo-marxist moral idiot with a political axe to grind and you don't really mind using the blood of innocents to whet the stone.

      The man video recorded himself pulling a eight year old girl by the hair and blowing her brains out. But its all Americas fault and has nothing to do with the islmic ideology he himself stated as his motives.

    • lilmac

      If you don't follow islam then you are not a true islam. Why are you defending them if you don't practice it. You non practicing muslims should then call your religion something else then you won't be lumped into the same category as the extremists and the world would know who is radical and who is not and the non muslims would not fear. It is that simple. How do you expect us to feel when we don't know who is who. The problem is that if you do leave your religion, you would be also a target, right? I find you to be confusing and untrustworthy. You sound hypocritical in your defenses.

  • kafir4life

    Doesn't mohamat look remarkably like President Barack hussein obama? He could be the president's son!

  • kentatwater

    A new blockbuster, inspired by the Religion Of Peace (TM):

    Book tells Muslim men how to beat and control their wives

  • Howard

    “the anti-immigration far right has been gaining unprecedented popularity in recent months.”

    And this atrocity virtually guarantees even grearter popularity this election. The Toulouse Killer may have been in tune with all things islamic, but he was also most certainly politically tone deaf.

    And please,don't feed the Trolls. Let them bark and growl their absurdities from under their bridges. They simply love to feed on the rotten eggs and over-ripe vegetables you throw at them. A simple thumbs down will usually do.

    • kentatwater

      I realize casting pearls before swine is probably not productive, but I have a surplus a pearls, and a slingshot I love to use.
      :)

  • g_jochnowitz

    Sunnis, O Sunnis, you’ve just got to kill.
    If you have faith, you must find the will.
    Shiites, O Shiites, you’ve just got to slay.
    The mercy of Islam says: Jihad’s the way.

    Shiites and Sunnis, you both hate the Jews.
    Yet you must battle, despite your shared views.
    Killing a Muslim is certainly sad,
    But refraining from killing is sinfully bad.

  • Philip

    Of course, the police got it right. They can't afford to look like the Keystone Cops. They need results, and everyone, but everyone knew it was a Muslim. No one today kills infants of three and four, or chases nine-year-olds to shoot them in the head three times — except Muslims.
    What about that Norwegian guy? Sure, but how many Norwegians have been involved in terrorism these past forty years? Lightening isn't going to strike twice. How many Muslims have been involved in terrorism of this kind?
    The New York Times and its buddies are just trying to sell us a bill of goods, again.

  • Bashy Quraishy

    Dear Philip
    The trouble with most Americans is that they live in the coco’s land and have no idea what is happening in the world.
    You say that : No one today kills infants of three and four, or chases nine-year-olds to shoot them in the head three times — except Muslims.
    Have you heard the name of U.S. Army Staff Sgt. Robert Bales who just few days ago killed in cold blood 16 Afghans, mostly children of 2- 4 years. U.S. has today paid to those Afghan shooting victims. So spare me the BS that it is only Muslims who kill children. Only morons connect a single idiot’s actions to 1.7 billion people and their religion.
    I have tried to explain to you and your anti-Islam cronies that terrorism by a tiny minority of Muslims was taken up as a retaliatory measure after USA started butchering Muslims all of the world by over and cover operations. They day, US will leave the Muslim lands, the terrorism will cease. It is that simple. I do hope that you get it!

  • Ghostwriter

    You've just proved something that I've always thought about you,Mr. Quraishy. That you hate America and Americans and you always have. You've always blamed America for all the problems that the Muslim world have ever had. It's been your people that have been murdering Americans for years even before 9/11 so spare ME the "USA butchering Muslims all over the world" fairy tale that you and your jihadist friends have been spewing for years. You've never ONCE taken ANY responsibility for the terrorist attacks that Muslims have done against Americans. At least,Sgt. Bales is going to face justice. Your people celebrated the mass murder of 9/11 and have never done even the slightest bit of soul-searching.
    The only way that the terrorism will cease is when Muslims stop trying to force their religion on to other people,including Americans. You are a disgusting human being,Mr. Quraishy. You've never once condemned a single terrorist act against Americans. You never have and never will. You are an anti-American jerk masquerading as an intellectual. I do hope that one day,you'll know how Americans feel but I doubt it. You and most of the Muslim world have always hated this country and always will. Quit trying to pretend that you do care. Because you obviously DON'T.

  • ebonystone

    Yes, and many Indian tribes were only too happy to ally themselves with the European settlers, whom they saw as powerful allies against their traditional enemies.
    In Mexico the Aztecs ruled over several weaker neighboring tribes, taking captives from them by the tens of thousands every year for human sacrificies. The tribes subject to the mass-murdering Aztecs welcomed the Spanish; it was their chance to throw off the hated Aztec rule.
    And in the American South some of the more powerful tribes raided their weaker neighbors, taking captives to sell as slaves to the English in South Carolina.