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	<title>Comments on: October Surprise: Direct Talks with Iran?</title>
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		<title>By: Maja</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/joseph-klein/october-surprise-direct-talks-with-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-4009483</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maja]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 05:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’m sorry we can’t talk about Iranian economic pemolrbs without arguing that others aren’t doing better than Iran. Comparison is important to get a better picture of the whole thing. If Iran&#039;s unemployment figure is a certain amount, its important to compare to other countries, to see how Iran is doing. This is true for every aspect of judging a country. For example, if Iran&#039;s literacy is 70%, but world average is 40%, with its neighbours being 50% and the west being 65%, then Iran is doing great. But if Iran is doing 90%, then thats fantastic, but what if its neighbours are 95% and the west is 99%? Then something is wrong with Iran&#039;s system to see why is it lagging so  much behind?So we always have to compare. Media reports always talk about how many millions of Iranians are under the poverty line. But the question needs to be asked is  what is the poverty line  that is being used to get these numbers? What is Iran&#039;s poverty line compared to other countries? In itself, we don&#039;t get any idea.And not only do we have to compare it to other countries, but to the country&#039;s own past (taking into consideration outside factors). For example, which is better for a country:a) a country that has 5% inflation, but previous several years it was between 1-2%orb) a country that has 10% inflation, but for past years it has been slowly coming down from a 30% inflation per yearI&#039;d say the second one is better because while the latest inflation is higher than the first example, it is at least on the right track,while something is going wrong on the first one.For example, Iran&#039;s unemployment is 11.3%. But compare it to its regional neighbours:Afghanistan:35%Iraq: 18%KSA: 11.6%UAE: 12.6%Oman: 15%Jordan: 12.2%Turkey: 10.5%Move a bit furthur and compare it to major countries such as:USA: 9.6%France: 10%United Kingdom: 7.8%Russia: 9.2%So while Iran hopes to improve its 11.3%, I dont think its a sign of either an economic crisis nor something that one should use to attack Iran on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m sorry we can’t talk about Iranian economic pemolrbs without arguing that others aren’t doing better than Iran. Comparison is important to get a better picture of the whole thing. If Iran&#8217;s unemployment figure is a certain amount, its important to compare to other countries, to see how Iran is doing. This is true for every aspect of judging a country. For example, if Iran&#8217;s literacy is 70%, but world average is 40%, with its neighbours being 50% and the west being 65%, then Iran is doing great. But if Iran is doing 90%, then thats fantastic, but what if its neighbours are 95% and the west is 99%? Then something is wrong with Iran&#8217;s system to see why is it lagging so  much behind?So we always have to compare. Media reports always talk about how many millions of Iranians are under the poverty line. But the question needs to be asked is  what is the poverty line  that is being used to get these numbers? What is Iran&#8217;s poverty line compared to other countries? In itself, we don&#8217;t get any idea.And not only do we have to compare it to other countries, but to the country&#8217;s own past (taking into consideration outside factors). For example, which is better for a country:a) a country that has 5% inflation, but previous several years it was between 1-2%orb) a country that has 10% inflation, but for past years it has been slowly coming down from a 30% inflation per yearI&#8217;d say the second one is better because while the latest inflation is higher than the first example, it is at least on the right track,while something is going wrong on the first one.For example, Iran&#8217;s unemployment is 11.3%. But compare it to its regional neighbours:Afghanistan:35%Iraq: 18%KSA: 11.6%UAE: 12.6%Oman: 15%Jordan: 12.2%Turkey: 10.5%Move a bit furthur and compare it to major countries such as:USA: 9.6%France: 10%United Kingdom: 7.8%Russia: 9.2%So while Iran hopes to improve its 11.3%, I dont think its a sign of either an economic crisis nor something that one should use to attack Iran on.</p>
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		<title>By: Marvin Fox</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/joseph-klein/october-surprise-direct-talks-with-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-3714104</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marvin Fox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 22:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[October surprises are becoming usual. The last one, the announcement of the Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac failures was a Democratic Party triumph. Caused by Democrats, denied by Democrats, and pulled off at the proper time by Democrats.  
I wonder who believes they can pull off a similar success using Iran&#039;s nuclear plans instead of our national economy? It may not be so easy a second time. A lot of people are watching Obama &amp; Co. for a last minute vote getting scam. 
Marvin Fox ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>October surprises are becoming usual. The last one, the announcement of the Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac failures was a Democratic Party triumph. Caused by Democrats, denied by Democrats, and pulled off at the proper time by Democrats.<br />
I wonder who believes they can pull off a similar success using Iran&#039;s nuclear plans instead of our national economy? It may not be so easy a second time. A lot of people are watching Obama &amp; Co. for a last minute vote getting scam.<br />
Marvin Fox </p>
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		<title>By: Schlomotion</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/joseph-klein/october-surprise-direct-talks-with-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-3713382</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Schlomotion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s hilarious! I am? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s hilarious! I am? </p>
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		<title>By: SAM000</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/joseph-klein/october-surprise-direct-talks-with-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-3711700</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SAM000]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 07:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Joseph Klein; the individual &quot;Schlomotion&quot; is a NIAC and AIC member, these two identities are the Iranian lobbies and operatives in USA,  
NIAC is (National Iranian American Council). 
AIC is (American Iranian Council). 
You can Google these two identities and you will be amazed to find out the 5th column of the enemy in USA,  
These people never write under their own identities,  
But, their writings denounces them. 
You would notice that these kind of individuals and their lobbying group are the most hated of a martyred nation, the Iranians look at these individuals as their masters who are the Mullahs. 
 
I thank you so very much for your articles, we the IRANIANS, will never forget the HONORABLE SCHOLARS who tried to clear this fogy political state and informed the world of the imminent danger. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Joseph Klein; the individual &quot;Schlomotion&quot; is a NIAC and AIC member, these two identities are the Iranian lobbies and operatives in USA,<br />
NIAC is (National Iranian American Council).<br />
AIC is (American Iranian Council).<br />
You can Google these two identities and you will be amazed to find out the 5th column of the enemy in USA,<br />
These people never write under their own identities,<br />
But, their writings denounces them.<br />
You would notice that these kind of individuals and their lobbying group are the most hated of a martyred nation, the Iranians look at these individuals as their masters who are the Mullahs. </p>
<p>I thank you so very much for your articles, we the IRANIANS, will never forget the HONORABLE SCHOLARS who tried to clear this fogy political state and informed the world of the imminent danger. </p>
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		<title>By: WilliamJamesWard</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/joseph-klein/october-surprise-direct-talks-with-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-3710642</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WilliamJamesWard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 00:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The New York Times, a propaganda rag for Marxist, Socialist, Islamist trash has only 
one credit......&quot;Pergamentum init, exit Pergamentum&quot;..........&quot;Garbage in, Garbage out&quot;.... 
William ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The New York Times, a propaganda rag for Marxist, Socialist, Islamist trash has only<br />
one credit&#8230;&#8230;&quot;Pergamentum init, exit Pergamentum&quot;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.&quot;Garbage in, Garbage out&quot;&#8230;.<br />
William </p>
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		<title>By: riverboatbill</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/joseph-klein/october-surprise-direct-talks-with-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-3710497</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[riverboatbill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 23:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Iran want nukes, let give them some-on cruise missiles. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Iran want nukes, let give them some-on cruise missiles. </p>
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		<title>By: Omar</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/joseph-klein/october-surprise-direct-talks-with-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-3710452</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Omar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 23:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Flipside, no one wants to hear your ignorant lies and propaganda.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flipside, no one wants to hear your ignorant lies and propaganda.  </p>
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		<title>By: Ghostwriter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/joseph-klein/october-surprise-direct-talks-with-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-3710213</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ghostwriter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know what&#039;s worse,Schlobrain,your anti-semitic garbage or your baseless attack on Mr. Klein. I have no idea why you have this need to embarass yourself on a daily basis but I wish you&#039;d quit it. You&#039;re not winning any friends here and your only success in life to prove to the entire world that you&#039;re a world class idiot. 
 ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t know what&#039;s worse,Schlobrain,your anti-semitic garbage or your baseless attack on Mr. Klein. I have no idea why you have this need to embarass yourself on a daily basis but I wish you&#039;d quit it. You&#039;re not winning any friends here and your only success in life to prove to the entire world that you&#039;re a world class idiot. </p>
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		<title>By: BLJ</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/joseph-klein/october-surprise-direct-talks-with-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-3710006</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BLJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obama is toast. The only way he gets re-elected is if he can steal the election. Since he has the morals of a jackal I am sure he will try. 
 
Still, I am confident that he will go down come November 6th.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is toast. The only way he gets re-elected is if he can steal the election. Since he has the morals of a jackal I am sure he will try. </p>
<p>Still, I am confident that he will go down come November 6th.  </p>
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		<title>By: Drakken</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/joseph-klein/october-surprise-direct-talks-with-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-3709966</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah yes, where have I heard this before? Oh that is right, ole Chamberlain telling the gulable and stupid that there will be peace in our time. Now we have Obummer with that effing traitor Jarret telling the American people the same thing, the only problem is we have half the population that is going to believe it. There will be a day of reckoning soon.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, where have I heard this before? Oh that is right, ole Chamberlain telling the gulable and stupid that there will be peace in our time. Now we have Obummer with that effing traitor Jarret telling the American people the same thing, the only problem is we have half the population that is going to believe it. There will be a day of reckoning soon.  </p>
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		<title>By: Drakken</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/joseph-klein/october-surprise-direct-talks-with-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-3709957</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know what is more anoying? You being a complete moron and stupid? Or you not knowing that your a moron and stupid? Please leave the discussion for the adults because this is way beyond your intellectual capability. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t know what is more anoying? You being a complete moron and stupid? Or you not knowing that your a moron and stupid? Please leave the discussion for the adults because this is way beyond your intellectual capability. </p>
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		<title>By: @undefined</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[@undefined]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 19:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[  
HERE IS THE JUDGE;  
 
&#039;Court Reveals Iranian Operatives In Charge Of Obama&#8217;s Iran Policy Since 2009&#039; 
SEPTEMBER 26, 2012  
  &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151250664571383&amp;l=1430d14958&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=101512506...&lt;/a&gt; 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>
HERE IS THE JUDGE;  </p>
<p>&#039;Court Reveals Iranian Operatives In Charge Of Obama&rsquo;s Iran Policy Since 2009&#039;<br />
SEPTEMBER 26, 2012<br />
  <a href="https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151250664571383&amp;l=1430d14958" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=101512506" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=101512506</a>&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Schlomotion</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/joseph-klein/october-surprise-direct-talks-with-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-3709639</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Schlomotion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 17:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope he uses a Yale-trained lawyer. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope he uses a Yale-trained lawyer. </p>
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		<title>By: SCREW SOCIALISM</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/joseph-klein/october-surprise-direct-talks-with-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-3709478</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SCREW SOCIALISM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shariamotion, 
 
Happy Eternal Nakba! 
 
I give you an A+ for WHINING. 
 ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shariamotion, </p>
<p>Happy Eternal Nakba! </p>
<p>I give you an A+ for WHINING. </p>
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		<title>By: Sprinklerman</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/joseph-klein/october-surprise-direct-talks-with-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-3709354</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sprinklerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope that Mr. Klein sues you for libel. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that Mr. Klein sues you for libel. </p>
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		<title>By: Schlomotion</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/joseph-klein/october-surprise-direct-talks-with-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-3709274</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Schlomotion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 15:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;even if they were applicable outside of the academic sphere.&quot; 
 
At least you admit that your article and perhaps your books disseminate &quot;outside the academic sphere.&quot; I can&#039;t really ask much more than that. It&#039;s difficult for a conscientious author to choose a good subject, write upon it well, cite everything properly, &lt;i&gt;then&lt;/i&gt; publish it, and get it independently reviewed. Kudos to you for publishing &lt;i&gt;anyway&lt;/i&gt;. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;even if they were applicable outside of the academic sphere.&quot; </p>
<p>At least you admit that your article and perhaps your books disseminate &quot;outside the academic sphere.&quot; I can&#039;t really ask much more than that. It&#039;s difficult for a conscientious author to choose a good subject, write upon it well, cite everything properly, <i>then</i> publish it, and get it independently reviewed. Kudos to you for publishing <i>anyway</i>. </p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Klein</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/joseph-klein/october-surprise-direct-talks-with-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-3709231</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joseph Klein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 15:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Starting and ending the entire article with quotation marks even though my article already contains exact quotes with citations when exact quotes are used and links to the New York Times article that is only briefly mentioned in the initial part of my artilce? I don&#039;t think that is what the Holy Cross instructions you linked to had in mind even if they were applicable outside of the academic sphere.  But you can go on thinking so, if you would like. The bottom line of my piece - which certainly is not what the Times was trying to convey - is that if Obama did make a deal with the Iranians who cannot be trusted to keep their word, we are in deep trouble. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Starting and ending the entire article with quotation marks even though my article already contains exact quotes with citations when exact quotes are used and links to the New York Times article that is only briefly mentioned in the initial part of my artilce? I don&#039;t think that is what the Holy Cross instructions you linked to had in mind even if they were applicable outside of the academic sphere.  But you can go on thinking so, if you would like. The bottom line of my piece &#8211; which certainly is not what the Times was trying to convey &#8211; is that if Obama did make a deal with the Iranians who cannot be trusted to keep their word, we are in deep trouble. </p>
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		<title>By: Schlomotion</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/joseph-klein/october-surprise-direct-talks-with-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-3709174</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Schlomotion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just put a quotation mark at the beginning of your whole article and another one at the end. 
 
And read this for heavens&#039; sake. The helpful advice is at the beginning: 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://academics.holycross.edu/files/Political_Science/POLS_Academic_Honesty_Statement.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://academics.holycross.edu/files/Political_Sc...&lt;/a&gt; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just put a quotation mark at the beginning of your whole article and another one at the end. </p>
<p>And read this for heavens&#039; sake. The helpful advice is at the beginning:<br />
  <a href="http://academics.holycross.edu/files/Political_Science/POLS_Academic_Honesty_Statement.pdf" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://academics.holycross.edu/files/Political_Sc" rel="nofollow">http://academics.holycross.edu/files/Political_Sc</a>&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Klein</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/joseph-klein/october-surprise-direct-talks-with-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-3709142</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joseph Klein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Before you start using libraries, learn how to read intelligently if that is possible for you.  Quoting from an article to which I linked and commenting upon it is not &quot;plagiarism&quot; except in your fantasy world.    ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before you start using libraries, learn how to read intelligently if that is possible for you.  Quoting from an article to which I linked and commenting upon it is not &quot;plagiarism&quot; except in your fantasy world.    </p>
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		<title>By: Schlomotion</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Schlomotion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You referenced it. You also &lt;i&gt;copied three paragraphs from it. &lt;/i&gt;Then you began writing your own article from within it. You did not cite it. Clearly you are not also a &lt;i&gt;Harvard trained writer.&lt;/i&gt;   
   
I will certainly borrow your books from the local library. There&#039;s probably one propping up a desk somewhere. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You referenced it. You also <i>copied three paragraphs from it. </i>Then you began writing your own article from within it. You did not cite it. Clearly you are not also a <i>Harvard trained writer.</i>   </p>
<p>I will certainly borrow your books from the local library. There&#039;s probably one propping up a desk somewhere. </p>
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