Ron Paul’s Absurd ‘Golden Rule’


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Congressman Ron Paul showed in the January 17th Fox News debate why he would be so dangerous as president and commander-in-chief. He believes, in a twist on the Judeo-Christian Golden Rule, that our Islamist enemies are only assaulting us because we assaulted them first. Sorry, appeaser-in-chief Paul, but the Koran commands devout jihadists to use whatever means are necessary to destroy all infidels, no matter what we have done or plan to do to them.

As part of an exchange involving the appropriate response to al Qaeda and their Taliban supporters, Paul exclaimed:

My point is, if another country does to us what we do others, we’re not going to like it very much. So I would say that maybe we ought to consider a golden rule in — in foreign policy. Don’t do to other nation… what we don’t want to have them do to us.

Paul even offered the absurd analogy comparing our killing of the mass murderer Osama bin Laden on Pakistani soil, where he was provided a sanctuary, to the Communist Chinese government deciding to go after a Chinese dissident seeking freedom in the United States. Newt Gingrich properly labeled this comparison “utterly irrational.”

Ron Paul may have some good ideas on reining in the power of the Federal Reserve and on the need to control federal spending. But he is clueless in dealing with our Islamist enemies. He either does not understand or refuses to believe the ideology that drives them. They want to kill us because our nation is governed on the basis of principles derived from Judeo-Christian beliefs including the true Golden Rule. They hate us because of who we are, not for any alleged harm that we’ve ever caused them.

Only three years after the United States won its independence, when there was no Jewish state for Muslims to resent, and no American troops on Muslim soil, Thomas Jefferson, then U.S. ambassador to France, and John Adams, then U.S. Ambassador to Britain, learned from a Muslim ambassador to Britain why the Muslims were so hostile towards Americans. Jefferson and Adams were attempting to negotiate a peace treaty with the Muslim “Barbary pirates,” an exercise that ultimately proved to be futile.

As Jefferson and Adams later reported to Congress, the Muslim ambassador explained to them that Islam

Was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman [Muslim] who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise.

All that Ron Paul needs to do is take a look at the Koran itself, cited by that Muslim ambassador more than 200 years ago, to understand the source of the  jihadist ideology that we are still fighting today.

Here is a sample:

• “Kill the disbelievers wherever we find them.” (Koran, 2:191)

• “O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends: They are but friends to each other.” (Koran 5:51)

• “Shall I tell you who, in the sight of God, deserves a yet worse retribution than these? Those [the Jews] whom God has rejected and whom He has condemned, and whom He has turned into monkeys and pigs because they worshiped the powers of evil.” (Koran 5:60)

• “I will inspire terror into the hearts of unbelievers: you smite them above their necks and smite all their fingertips off of them.” (Koran, 8:12)

• “So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.”

•  “[F]ight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book [Christians and Jews], until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” (Koran, 9:29)

• “When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the good things in life and yet sin. So that Allah’s word is proven true against them, then we destroy them utterly.” (Koran, 17:16-17)

Islamist apologists argue that the Koran also contains verses calling for tolerance and understanding.  If the verses written while Muhammad was living in Mecca, where he and his followers were then surrounded by much stronger non-Muslim populations, constituted the entirety of the Koran, they may have had a point. However, the milder verses were superseded by the far more war-like and intolerant verses written during Muhammad’s time in Medina where he successfully launched his jihad of conquests against non-believers, especially against Jews who refused to convert to Islam. Moreover, when one examines the real meaning of jihad according to Muhammad from other primary sources such as Bukhari (the Hadith, which are oral traditions relating to the words and deeds of Muhammad), the fact is that 97% of the jihad references are about war and 3% are about so-called inner struggle.

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  • TheForeigner

    Only in America is it considered idiocy to suggest that Arab terrorism might have something to do with American intervention in the Arab world. How can a people be so myopic, so wilfully ignorant about the world outside its borders? US strategy has involved propping up despots and tyrants across the Middle East, and yet Americans wonder why Arabs regard the USA as a latter day George III. Religion is part of it, sure, but Christianity has its own outbreaks of radical extremism in its past. And to blame it all on religion ignores the fact that the Palestinian who shot Robert Kennedy was a Christian, and did so explicitly in revenge for US support for Israel.

  • Billy Bob Tweed

    Useless, braindead ignorant article. We are supposed to tell Christ to go eff himself, because you read some scary passages in the Koran. Pathetic – and evil.

    • diesel

      NO, you moron…
      We are to be aware of the true motives, desires, and goals of Muslims and Islamists. They wage jihad and murder against us because our country is built on a foundation of Judeo-Christian ideology. Nowhere does this article says nothing about ‘telling Christ to eff himself ‘ Open your eyes, read it and get off your hypersensitive high horse.

  • Darwin says thanks

    So, the "Golden Rule" is "absurd," is it? You are calling Jesus Christ absurd. Thank you! Welcome aboard the Athiests R Us bandwagon. Tell all you friends to join as well. You hate the Koran, that's even better. We can make fun of ALL religions. But back on topic, thanks again for rebuking Christ as an absurdist, idealist, dangerous fringe lunatic whose followers corrupt reality. Thank you – thank you – three times THANK YOU!!!

    • Joseph Klein

      The Golden Rule is not absurd. Ron Paul's interpretation of it is absurd, as well as your comment.

  • Albert

    How can one possibly believe that our presence in the middle east has not directed hostilities toward us? Can't we stop spending all this money on this meddling and erase the target on our back? I would be fine with being a neutral country like the Swiss or Canada. Lets stop sending our sons to die. Lets stop draining our economy with unnecessary, undeclared wars. Sure, if someone attacks us, lets decimate them. Declare it in congress and go full throttle at them. I doesn't take ten years for a superpower like us to win a war.

    • Ennis

      Canada isn't a neutral country

  • edhelmstetter

    joe klein are you from the david frum school or journalism?-where to begin countering this rag of a piece…..

  • NotaBene

    It makes the usual FPM muck-dwellers so mad to know that Ron Paul's message resonates more deeply than David Horowitz's one-note 'KILL EVERYBODY' does.

    • Joseph Klein

      The only "KILL EVERYBODY" note is in your own head.

      • NotaBene

        No it's printed on this website every single day. If I wanted to kill people I'd push war as a first resort 24/7, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT DAVID HOROWITZ DOES.

        • Joseph Klein

          There was no call for new wars in my article. But the choice is not only between new wars and doing nothing. Ron Paul opposed not only any economic sanctions against Iran but even a harmless congressional resolution indicating support for the rights of the Iranian people. And he appeared on an Iranian state TV station. If he truly wants to remain out of the fray, then why did he appear on their TV station?

          • NotaBene

            Are you really so dumb that you can't tell the difference between the US minding it's own business (which would still involve trade, diplomacy, and otherwise friendly relations) and belligerence and warmongering? Paul isn't an isolationist.

          • Joseph Klein

            Friendly relations with this Iranian regime? Obama tried that and got nowhere. Next time, think (if you can) before you write your nonsense.

          • NotaBene

            Is that your actual understanding of the Iran situation? Then you really ARE that dumb.

          • Joseph Klein

            You are too much of a fool to bother with.

  • http://facebook.com/Under30sForRonPaul Anthony

    I'm so sick of pretentious liberal rags who will rally against unnecessary war, then attack Ron Paul for not wanting to ceaselessly destroy nations that did nothing wrong in the first place.

  • Ghostwriter

    To me,Ron Paul lives in a fantasy world. He believes if we retreated from the rest of the world,they'll leave us alone. Both World Wars should have burst that illusion. I agree with Bill O'Reilly on Ron Paul. I don't want him protecting me. We need leaders who live in the real world,not the Land of Make-Believe which is where Ron Paul and Barack Obama have been living.

    • http://www.contextflexed.com Flipside

      Somebody has read Security and Sacrifice by Elliott Abrams too many times. The pages are starting to stick together.

  • Matt

    The author of this article and everyone who agrees with him are nothing but whiny pussies. Great, big, giant, pussies. They sit behind their monitors, shaking in there little boots, about to piss themselves because they think Muslims are going to hurt them or put them under Sharia Law or some such nonsense.

    Grow up, find a pair of testicles, and get a fking clue. Your embarrassing yourselves.

    • Matt

      You're*

  • Over my dead body

    So let me get this straight. So Islam is going to make me a slave and we should be provoking war with them at every turn? That's much more sane than Ron Paul's foreign policy.

  • akaGaGa

    The motivation of Muslim terrorists is immaterial. Christ instructed us to love our enemies, turn the other cheek, and not to resist an evil person. If we say that we are Christians, then we must agree with Christ. If we don't agree, if we say that the Golden Rule is "absurd," then we are not Christians. It's as simple as that.

    This debate is exposing the hypocrisy of many who claim to be followers of the Prince of Peace, but in reality put their trust in the horses and chariots of the US military.

  • smitty

    Vote for ron paul,assure a obama reelection.

  • FriendofGaryCooper

    Yeah, resort to personal attacks when you can't reply with fact/argument.
    She's exactly right. READ THE DAMN NEWS!!

  • S. Bando

    If this author actually thought Muslims so dangerous, he should be freaking out at the establishment politicans from both parties whose immigration policy lets many Muslims into the country. Instead he rails against the only anti-establishment candidate running because he doesn't think it wise to attack nations who haven't attacked the U.S.. Jewish opponents of Ron Paul, like Joseph Klein, often say they don't like him because of XYZ, but the ABC of why they don't like him is because Ron Paul doesn't think the U.S. taxpayer owes Israel billions annually or unquestioned allegiance in any wars Israel gets into.

  • curmudgeon

    ron paul has some good ideas. but when it comes to civilizations'sworn enemy, islam, ron paul is a useful idiot. a babe in the woods. a child.

  • djrhitz

    what a sad look on things and short sighted because ultimately Iran has support of Russia and China and lets not mess with them unless we are on a suicide mission.

  • Ann

    our first war was against Muslim Pirates — Jefferson went after them—learn history Paul and the first rules of survival —fool me once shame on me,fool me twice shame on you,fool me three times I AM GOING TO KICK YOU ASS TILL YOUR DEAD!!!

  • curmudgeon

    based on the plusses assigned to idiots, and minuses assigned to reasonable comments, i woud say this site is populated by fools. go ahead and give me the thumbs down. you will prove my point.

  • Chaplain_P

    I abhor Islam because it is false and treacherous, so I appreciate the info. However, I take strong exception with the article's conclusions: Three quotes from the article:

    Quote:
    [They want to kill us because] our nation is governed on the basis of principles derived from Judeo-Christian beliefs including the true Golden Rule.

    Obviously this is false and self contradictory in light of the conclusion, quoted below. This would be true to a greater degree if people like Paul were in power.

    They hate us because of who we are, not for any alleged harm that we’ve ever caused them.

    This, too is obviously false, in part because such absolutes can neither be proven nor disproven. It stands to reason that thuggery (America's current FP) will rouse further hatred.

    Quote:
    Ron Paul is on a fool’s gold mission in believing that applying the Golden Rule in dealing with our Islamist enemies will lead to any result other than the killing of many more innocent Americans.

    This is just plain ignorant. Try reading the Bible more and the Koran less.

    Peace

    The Chaplain

    • Joseph Klein

      Try reading about the Just War doctrine.

      • Chaplain_P

        Perfectly fair, and I don't wish to seem disrespectful.

        Please permit me to close my commentary on this matter by directing your attention again to the claim that the United States and its government is rooted in Judeo-Christian values in light of your statements:

        Ron Paul is booed (by some vocal dissenters), and more to the point you characterise his position as ludricrous. Consider what this followed, however: Mr Gingrich callously espousing the destruction of America's enemies, "You kill them."

        That statement won much applause, as has been noted here repeatedly,

        Jesus told us to love our enemies. If we are Christians, or sympathetic to the teachings of Christ, we ought to respond, "Yes, we kill our enemies if it becomes necessary, but we do not kill innocent women and children in the process," And we only kill as a last resort, or we have no right to claim the moral "high ground."

        Your position here appears unreasonable to me, particularly to represent Dr Paul in so skewed a light against what I find to be a heinous and cold, barbaric ideology – that championed by Gingrich.

        A just war? No problem. Is that what America is involved in, really?

        • Ennis

          Let me get this straight then Chaplain_p, you're saying after 9/11 America had no right to retaliate? That it should just "turned the other cheek"? That America should have just let Al qaeda continue to as many as they please? Tell me do you have the same attitude with regards to World war II?

          "Your position here appears unreasonable to me, particularly to represent Dr Paul in so skewed a light"

          I beleive DR. Ron Paul of that himself.

          • Ennis

            Edit: I believe Dr. Ron Paul does that pretty well on his own.

          • Chaplain_P

            I'm certainly not arguing against self defense, however the gospel pattern is one of non-retaliation. My point is America cannot have it both ways: either follow the principles or abandon them. Just do not justify the callous extinguishing of life, even in kind, on the basis of superior morality.

            Unless you are prepared to annihilate the enemy, you must reason with them at some point. Your choice.

  • mah29001

    Here's my suggestion to you Paul Qaedans…. f*ck off, and get a life. Because when this article gets over 400 comments from you braindead drones, it's so the obvious that you do not have a life.

    • http://www.contextflexed.com Flipside

      What’s the matter? Your hate blog doesn’t work? You need to run this one too?

  • 9-11 Infidel

    Ron Paul will NEVER the nomination and will never be President. Why waste time talking about him? Obama is the real enemy as are the Jihadis, the Chinese and the Norks. Its not our civilization that rankles the Jihadis its their political and societal philosophy as expoused by their insane prophet and his moon-god Shatain that inspires them to want to destroy us. There are many Muslim references on the subject of the Third Great Jihad. And make no mistake the jihad will continue against the Abode of War until the only religion left is Allah's. This is the reason for this war. Get a copy of the Muslim jihadist manifesto (Koran, pick your Hadith) and read it for yourself. As it says in the Koran "Enmity and hate shall forever reign between us–till you believe in Allah alone' " Israel was never the issue or our presence in the ME. Those are only excuses. The real reason for the Third Great Jihad is in Koran screeds such as Sura 60:4 and Sura 9:29. And the hatred of the Jews? Sahih Bukhari 4.52.177 is a good one to start with. Oh and the real Golden Rule in the ME is an Arabic phrase wala' wa bara' not some Qutuubian/Saidian construct.

  • Max Dragonared

    Both liberals and conservatives in our country believe that government has the right to force peaceful people–up to and including pointing guns at them–to live the way they think they should.

    • Ennis

      what you mean live in a way that doesn't threaten other countries' national security?

  • andrew

    there are radical jews who also espouse destroying their 'enemies'. there are also radical christians who do this too. wake up and stop the needless killing in name of world empire and war profit which will ultimately end in total failure.

  • SteveMT

    Fact: Iran has never invaded a single country.
    How many countries has the U.S. invaded without a declaration? Too numerous to count.
    Preemptive wars never end, just like preemptive undeclared wars are un-Constitutional.
    So where does the "Golden Rule" apply? If you believe in preemptive war and an-eye-for-eye, then understand why there will be more terrorism in this country. Why are we now trading with Vietnam with no problems whatsoever after we lost that war that cost the lives of 60,000 of our guys? Why did we break the cycle of hate there, and we cannot do the same with Iran? Think oil and their refusal to use dollars for their oil transactions, and you will have the answer.
    Wake up people and fast. Your NeoCon house of warmongering cards is about to crumble.
    Question to consider:
    What member of Congress never voted to increase the debt ceiling, never voted to raise taxes, and never voted for an unbalanced budget? Answer that question honestly, and perhaps you will break the cycle of your own hypocrisy.

  • corquando

    Here's a golden rule! They want to nuke us so we should nuke them first! GO USA! Go NEWT!

  • Matt

    Wow whoever worte this atricle is a complete idiot.

  • IloveAmerica

    America 2nd, Israel 1st.

  • Spinoza

    “Do to others as you would have them do to you.” ~ Luke 6:31

    Where did Jesus say the golden rule did not apply to non-believers? Where did He limit the golden rule to only people who share our values?

    ““If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full.” ~ Luke 6:32-34

    “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[a] and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you… If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?” ~ Matthew 5:43-44, 46-47

  • Joseph Klein

    No quotes were taken out of context. I also provided a link to the entire transcript of last Monday's debate. As I said in the article, Paul may have some good ideas on domestic policy but is way out in left field on foreign policy. You just don't want to deal with the implications.