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	<title>Comments on: Merry Christmas: Jesus’s Birthplace is an &#8216;Open-Air Prison&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: ontogram</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 23:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Israel persecutes Christian Palestinians relentlessly.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel persecutes Christian Palestinians relentlessly.  </p>
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		<title>By: ontogram</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 23:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[would NOT characterize ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>would NOT characterize </p>
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		<title>By: ontogram</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 23:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NO BS.  Zionism has the intent of removing Palestinians from all of Palestine and these are the techniques used to do so.  This should be obvious to anyone who bothered with a map.  Besides these methods, Israel employs the assault of a modern army on mostly civilians again and again.  Even the mainstream media which supports Zionism would characterize &quot;harassment, imprisonment and land confiscation&quot; in this instance as BS.  And people who read real news know only too well the lies of the Zionist state.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NO BS.  Zionism has the intent of removing Palestinians from all of Palestine and these are the techniques used to do so.  This should be obvious to anyone who bothered with a map.  Besides these methods, Israel employs the assault of a modern army on mostly civilians again and again.  Even the mainstream media which supports Zionism would characterize &quot;harassment, imprisonment and land confiscation&quot; in this instance as BS.  And people who read real news know only too well the lies of the Zionist state.  </p>
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		<title>By: WMJ</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 14:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is seriously stupid.  Have you ever been to Bethlehem?  It is absolutely an open-air prison.  But hey--why ask tough question when you can revert to intellectual laziness and oversimplify the issues?  Disgusting crap like this is just as damaging to the peace process as Hamas rockets. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is seriously stupid.  Have you ever been to Bethlehem?  It is absolutely an open-air prison.  But hey&#8211;why ask tough question when you can revert to intellectual laziness and oversimplify the issues?  Disgusting crap like this is just as damaging to the peace process as Hamas rockets. </p>
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		<title>By: Armando</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 18:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The imprint on the shroud cannot be that of  a jewish man because of its position. According to ancient Mishnaic sources, traditionally a jewish person was laid to rest in a slightly fetal position with his right hand over his heart and his left hand placed over the right hand. So whoever that imprint represents its doubtful its that of a jewish person.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The imprint on the shroud cannot be that of  a jewish man because of its position. According to ancient Mishnaic sources, traditionally a jewish person was laid to rest in a slightly fetal position with his right hand over his heart and his left hand placed over the right hand. So whoever that imprint represents its doubtful its that of a jewish person.  </p>
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		<title>By: Asher</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 13:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Herod,  was from the Idumean family, or Edomites,  which governed Palestine for the Roman Empire in 37 B.C.  This is the Hellenistic Greek name for the territory south of Judea then inhabited by the Edomites who had been displaced from their territory by the Nabateans. The origins of Idumea as a country began with the migration of the Edomites after most of the Jews had been deported to Babylon leaving Judah unoccupied. Herod the Great second son of Antipater II, who named him governor of Galilee at the age of 25.  This Herod viewed the birth of Jesus as a real threat to his own power.  In most wars, Israel has not been the aggressor, but the defender of their land. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Herod,  was from the Idumean family, or Edomites,  which governed Palestine for the Roman Empire in 37 B.C.  This is the Hellenistic Greek name for the territory south of Judea then inhabited by the Edomites who had been displaced from their territory by the Nabateans. The origins of Idumea as a country began with the migration of the Edomites after most of the Jews had been deported to Babylon leaving Judah unoccupied. Herod the Great second son of Antipater II, who named him governor of Galilee at the age of 25.  This Herod viewed the birth of Jesus as a real threat to his own power.  In most wars, Israel has not been the aggressor, but the defender of their land. </p>
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		<title>By: intrcptr2</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 00:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ &lt;a href=&quot;http://askelm.com/star/star006.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://askelm.com/star/star006.htm&lt;/a&gt; 
 
Sept 11, 3BC 
Rosh HaShanah ]]></description>
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<p>Sept 11, 3BC<br />
Rosh HaShanah </p>
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		<title>By: intrcptr2</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 00:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are numerous problems with the shroud. 
1.  Its existence was utterly unknown before the early Rennaisance. 
1b The Bible mentions nothing of the burial clothes after his resurrection.  Is it to be expected that the disciples would have cared one bit about rotten linen sheets once they had seen and touched the risen Lord?  Joseph&#039;s family most likely burned them. 
2.  The imprint does not look Jewish.   
2b As per Jewish practice, and Paul&#039;s commands, it is most probable that Jesus kept his hair close cropped.  The long hair Jesus is a late borrowing from pagan myth.  The image in the shroud resembles Dionysius more than Yeshua l&#039;Nazariou 
3.  There is nothing in the Bible that suggests that the power of God would affect physical matter in this way. 
3b Jesus told Thomas that those who believed without seeing were more blessed.  How does this fit with Jesus&#039; knowledge of the shroud? 
4.  Paul argued that even Satan can transform himself into an angel of light.  Is the ONLY possible source for this God?  I think not. 
4b Jesus told us that the last days are shortened for the sake of protecting the elect from satan deception; the false christ of Revelation is a phenomenal miracle worker; and it is a perverse generation which requires a sign. 
5.  The ink has been carbon dated to the 1300s. 
5b And now this;  &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/12/091216-shroud-of-turin-jesus-jerusalem-leprosy/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/12/0...&lt;/a&gt; 
 
As a fellow non-Catholic, I would suggest to sticking with Jesus and ignoring pretty much anything else that comes from Rome. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are numerous problems with the shroud.<br />
1.  Its existence was utterly unknown before the early Rennaisance.<br />
1b The Bible mentions nothing of the burial clothes after his resurrection.  Is it to be expected that the disciples would have cared one bit about rotten linen sheets once they had seen and touched the risen Lord?  Joseph&#039;s family most likely burned them.<br />
2.  The imprint does not look Jewish.<br />
2b As per Jewish practice, and Paul&#039;s commands, it is most probable that Jesus kept his hair close cropped.  The long hair Jesus is a late borrowing from pagan myth.  The image in the shroud resembles Dionysius more than Yeshua l&#039;Nazariou<br />
3.  There is nothing in the Bible that suggests that the power of God would affect physical matter in this way.<br />
3b Jesus told Thomas that those who believed without seeing were more blessed.  How does this fit with Jesus&#039; knowledge of the shroud?<br />
4.  Paul argued that even Satan can transform himself into an angel of light.  Is the ONLY possible source for this God?  I think not.<br />
4b Jesus told us that the last days are shortened for the sake of protecting the elect from satan deception; the false christ of Revelation is a phenomenal miracle worker; and it is a perverse generation which requires a sign.<br />
5.  The ink has been carbon dated to the 1300s.<br />
5b And now this;  <a href="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/12/091216-shroud-of-turin-jesus-jerusalem-leprosy/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/12/0" rel="nofollow">http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/12/0</a>&#8230; </p>
<p>As a fellow non-Catholic, I would suggest to sticking with Jesus and ignoring pretty much anything else that comes from Rome. </p>
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		<title>By: intrcptr2</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 00:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jesus followed NO traditions when he was dead.  As MarySue refers to, those who prepared his body for burial most likely would have followed typical burial practices, which were indeed not specified in Torah. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus followed NO traditions when he was dead.  As MarySue refers to, those who prepared his body for burial most likely would have followed typical burial practices, which were indeed not specified in Torah. </p>
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		<title>By: intrcptr2</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 00:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AMEN, and AMEN!!! 
 
Baruch hu haba b&#039;shem adonai. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMEN, and AMEN!!! </p>
<p>Baruch hu haba b&#039;shem adonai. </p>
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		<title>By: David A.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David A.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 18:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#954;&#945;&#964;&#949;&#961;&#947;ά&#950;&#959;&#956;&#945;&#953; , December 25th is the date the Roman Catholic Church choose to hold Christ&#039;s Mass (Christ-mas) - it has nothing to do with what day he was born!  
 
Whenever the RCC canonizes someone (NOTE: I am not Catholic, so this may be imprecise) they choose a day (somewhat) associated with that person that is dedicated to saying masses for them. Sometimes it is the day they died, sometimes the day they were born, sometimes it is a day something special happened in their life.  
 
I&#039;m not sure how/when people started thinking Jesus the Christ was born on 25 December 0000 AD. It is becoming more and more evident he was born ~?? May 0004 BC. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&kappa;&alpha;&tau;&epsilon;&rho;&gamma;ά&zeta;&omicron;&mu;&alpha;&iota; , December 25th is the date the Roman Catholic Church choose to hold Christ&#039;s Mass (Christ-mas) &#8211; it has nothing to do with what day he was born!  </p>
<p>Whenever the RCC canonizes someone (NOTE: I am not Catholic, so this may be imprecise) they choose a day (somewhat) associated with that person that is dedicated to saying masses for them. Sometimes it is the day they died, sometimes the day they were born, sometimes it is a day something special happened in their life.  </p>
<p>I&#039;m not sure how/when people started thinking Jesus the Christ was born on 25 December 0000 AD. It is becoming more and more evident he was born ~?? May 0004 BC. </p>
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		<title>By: Looking4Sanity</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 17:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indeed. Isn&#039;t the definition of a prison &quot;a place of confinement that you are not free to leave as you wish&quot;? I don&#039;t see anyone forcing these Arabs to stay in Gaza. Let them go back where they came from. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed. Isn&#039;t the definition of a prison &quot;a place of confinement that you are not free to leave as you wish&quot;? I don&#039;t see anyone forcing these Arabs to stay in Gaza. Let them go back where they came from. </p>
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		<title>By: JacksonPearson</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 02:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen.... 
Jesus said, &lt;i&gt;&#8220;I am the way the truth and the life; no one comes to the Father but by me.&#8221;&lt;/i&gt; 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen&#8230;.<br />
Jesus said, <i>&ldquo;I am the way the truth and the life; no one comes to the Father but by me.&rdquo;</i> </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Sue</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 22:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It wasn&#039;t the history channel that I saw, it was something else.  I forget exactly what though.  It&#039;s been repeated in various places including answers in genesis. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#039;t the history channel that I saw, it was something else.  I forget exactly what though.  It&#039;s been repeated in various places including answers in genesis. </p>
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		<title>By: κατεργάζομαι</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[κατεργάζομαι]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 17:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Q.&lt;/b&gt;: ~ Why December 25, since it&#039;s unlikely that Jesus was born at this time of year?  
 
Praise Jesus that I am saved by FAITH in His finished work on the CROSS!  I don&#039;t celebrate shrines!  
 
This is a unique time of year for presenting the gospel to the world, so let us take advantage of the opportunity.  
 
Christ&#039;s birth and the details of His life, death, and resurrection were foretold centuries before by the Hebrew prophets.  
 
No such prophecies preceded the birth of Buddha,  
No such prophecies preceded the birth Confucius,  
No such prophecies preceded the birth Muhammad, et al.  
 
Biblical prophecy fulfilled is the most powerful persuader we have. Paul used it in converting the lost and turned the world of his day upside down. So should we.  
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Q.</b>: ~ Why December 25, since it&#039;s unlikely that Jesus was born at this time of year?  </p>
<p>Praise Jesus that I am saved by FAITH in His finished work on the CROSS!  I don&#039;t celebrate shrines!  </p>
<p>This is a unique time of year for presenting the gospel to the world, so let us take advantage of the opportunity.  </p>
<p>Christ&#039;s birth and the details of His life, death, and resurrection were foretold centuries before by the Hebrew prophets.  </p>
<p>No such prophecies preceded the birth of Buddha,<br />
No such prophecies preceded the birth Confucius,<br />
No such prophecies preceded the birth Muhammad, et al.  </p>
<p>Biblical prophecy fulfilled is the most powerful persuader we have. Paul used it in converting the lost and turned the world of his day upside down. So should we.  </p>
<p>. </p>
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		<title>By: Long Ben</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 15:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Mr. Norquists&#039; thoughts on Israel have been affected by affection for his arab wife . However Mr Chambliss needs to remember , that everytime ( since the Reagan presidency ) the Dems. have promised spending cuts in exchange for tax increases, the taxes increased but the Dems reneged on the spending cuts without fail . To make things worse the Bernanke is trashing the Dollar . At the founding of our Republic the Death penalty was prescribed for anyone who would debase the currency and rightfully so as that rascal is stealing the food out of the mouth of everyones honest labor . So , why does the Bernanke yet remain in the land of the living ? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Mr. Norquists&#039; thoughts on Israel have been affected by affection for his arab wife . However Mr Chambliss needs to remember , that everytime ( since the Reagan presidency ) the Dems. have promised spending cuts in exchange for tax increases, the taxes increased but the Dems reneged on the spending cuts without fail . To make things worse the Bernanke is trashing the Dollar . At the founding of our Republic the Death penalty was prescribed for anyone who would debase the currency and rightfully so as that rascal is stealing the food out of the mouth of everyones honest labor . So , why does the Bernanke yet remain in the land of the living ? </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 09:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Well it did say right in teh text that the women winded strips of cloth all over his body when they buried him. &quot; 
 
Ah, I missed that. Did they mention that for any History Channel coverage that you know of? I guess there could have been strips and then the cloth as well. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Well it did say right in teh text that the women winded strips of cloth all over his body when they buried him. &quot; </p>
<p>Ah, I missed that. Did they mention that for any History Channel coverage that you know of? I guess there could have been strips and then the cloth as well. </p>
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		<title>By: Lorraine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lorraine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 07:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems like a sad way to celebrate Christmas, by using Jesus&#039;s birth place as a political tool. Jesus was Jewish, as were his disciples. Jesus loved the Jewish people, that were his people. As a Christian, I believe He still does love the Jewish people, as well as the other people of the world. According to the promises of God in the Bible, God still has a special covenant with the Jewish people. They are God&#039;s chosen people. God will not and has not broken His covenant. He is the same yesterday, today and forever. 
 The Muslim Palestinains have persecuted Christians right where they live. Consider that area was at one time a majority Christian area and now has a very small minority, The same thing that has happened in Lebanon. The Christian left in the Middle East are having are very hard time, not because of the Jews, but the Muslims. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like a sad way to celebrate Christmas, by using Jesus&#8217;s birth place as a political tool. Jesus was Jewish, as were his disciples. Jesus loved the Jewish people, that were his people. As a Christian, I believe He still does love the Jewish people, as well as the other people of the world. According to the promises of God in the Bible, God still has a special covenant with the Jewish people. They are God&#8217;s chosen people. God will not and has not broken His covenant. He is the same yesterday, today and forever.</p>
<p> The Muslim Palestinains have persecuted Christians right where they live. Consider that area was at one time a majority Christian area and now has a very small minority, The same thing that has happened in Lebanon. The Christian left in the Middle East are having are very hard time, not because of the Jews, but the Muslims. </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Sue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 06:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If they don&#039;t like THAT &quot;open air prison&quot; there&#039;s plenty of REAL ones they can go to.  Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lebanon... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they don&#039;t like THAT &quot;open air prison&quot; there&#039;s plenty of REAL ones they can go to.  Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lebanon&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Sue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 06:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well it did say right in teh text that the women winded strips of cloth all over his body when they buried him.  But your larger point is valid. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it did say right in teh text that the women winded strips of cloth all over his body when they buried him.  But your larger point is valid. </p>
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