A Taste of Islam: An Interview with Bill Warner


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In the years after the 9/11 attacks, more non-Muslims than ever before have studied Islam to understand the religious motives of those who had declared war on us. And yet non-believers who are alarmed at what they have found in the foundational texts of Islam are always told by apologists that we don’t understand the true Koran, that we labor under misconceptions about the Religion of Peace, that we don’t understand the complexities of sharia, that our objections and criticisms stem from racism (even though Islam is not a race) and an irrational fear of Islam and its adherents. The problem always seems to lie with us. What is the truth and how can we get to it behind the contradictions and the mystification?

Bill Warner has the answer. The founder and director of the Center for the Study of Political Islam (CSPI), he holds a PhD in physics and math. He has been a university professor, a businessman, and an applied physicist. But Dr. Warner has also had a lifelong interest in religion and its impact on history, and so the day after 9/11 he decided to make the source texts of Islam available for the average person who wants to know more.

As part of that effort, Mr. Warner has produced a dozen books, including a Koran, a biography of Mohammed and a summary of the political traditions of Mohammed. He writes articles and produces news bulletins that record the suffering of the victims of political Islam. And he has spoken nationally and internationally about Islamic political doctrine.

This Tuesday in Los Angeles, Mr. Warner will present “A Taste of Islam.” See here for information about attending.

Mark Tapson: Mr. Warner, your background is in physics and mathematics. How did you come to devote yourself to the study of religion and to feel compelled to share your insights on political Islam? How did the field of statistics shape your perspective on Islam?

Bill Warner: I was raised in a very religious family and read the Bible a great deal. I studied physics and math, but my interest in religion expanded to the effects of religion on history. After graduate school I was attracted to mysticism and Eastern religions. So, forty years ago, I looked into Sufism, mystical Islam. I went to Sufi dances, learned zikr (a Sufi devotional practice), met Sufi masters and read Sufi literature. But, there was always this jarring background noise of the history of Islam. So, I left my study of Sufism.

Twenty years later as a professor I had Muslims in my classes and they sparked my interest in the Koran. It was a tough read, but I read it cover to cover. The text was literally a puzzle, but I set it aside until 9/11.

On 9/11 as soon as the second plane hit the second tower, I knew it was an act of jihad. I stood up, turned off the TV and I haven’t watched it since. In that moment it came to me that the rest of my life would be spent explaining the meaning of Islamic texts.

I sat down and reread the Koran, read the Sira (Ishaq and Al Tabari), read the Hadith (Bukhari and Muslim). These are the absolute foundational texts of Islam, the source code, the DNA. I was following Sun Tzu’s advice; know your enemy and attack your enemy’s strategy.

My attack was to reveal the Koran, Sira and Hadith in a rational form that was easy to read. This became the Trilogy Project. I assembled a team of volunteers and paid writers and editors. From the beginning, I knew that it was the political aspect of Islam that offered the only chance of success. The religious aspect has too much misunderstood protection of the First Amendment.

MT: What is the Trilogy Project?

BW: The approach to the Trilogy was new and unorthodox, and its only chance of success lay in a scientific approach to the texts. Every paragraph can be verified by going back to the source texts. These books are not opinion, but give us the facts of the sources. For this reason, nearly every paragraph has an index number that allows it to be verified.

The greatest fun was solving the Koran puzzle. The Koran must be the most famous book that is not read or understood. The first step, which is not unique to me, is to lay out the Koran in the correct time sequence. The bookstore Koran is arranged by chapter length, and is not in the right time order. It was created by Uthman, the third caliph. The bookstore Koran is Uthman’s Koran.

If you take the life of Mohammed, the Sira, and lay it out alongside the Koran in the right time order, it is like matching a key to a lock. What is happening to Mohammed is reflected directly in the Koran. So if you integrate the life of Mohammed into the same text as the Koran and use separate fonts, so there is no confusion, you get a recreation of the Koran of Mohammed, the historical Koran. The Koran becomes an epic story that begins with a hymn to god and ends with the triumph over the world—the annihilation of all other civilization.

In 2006, I published the complete foundational doctrine of political Islam in three volumes. The Trilogy Project was finished. Now anyone can read and understand the Koran, Sira and Hadith. You can know Allah and Mohammed from the source texts.

This system of knowledge integrates the entire body of Islam into one view. If it is in the Trilogy, it is Islam. If it is Islam, it must be in the Trilogy.

Once the Trilogy was assembled, there was a bonus prize. Part of making the texts readable included sorting and reordering of the ideas. Once the work was all correlated, concepts leapt off the page. The ideas of Islamic ideology stood out. The simple statistical method of counting the words devoted to ideas clearly showed the themes of the doctrine.

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  • KarshiKhanabad

    I hope that the author is currently compiling and plans to publish a time-line based trifecta consisting of a time-reorganized Koran alongside equally reshuffled Hadiths & Sira which lay out the sayings of all three in sequence of the real events in the life of Mohammed. For one thing it will end all confusion about the differences between the "Meccan verses" and the "Medinan verses".

    If this is his actual plan, the resulting publication would be a bombshell dropped on the current PC establishment which calls Islam a "religion of peace".

    The author has solved the puzzle of understanding Islam. Doesn't mean that those who already understand Islam as a religion of intolerance, violence, and misogyny ("by their fruits ye shall know them") are in anyway off the mark.

    The author's reorganized trilogy of the murderous teachings of Islam needs to hit the newstands. As quickly as possible.

    • ObamaYoMoma

      understand Islam as a religion of intolerance, violence,

      Islam is not a religion. It's a theo-political totalitarian ideology that masquerades as being a religion to dupe the gullible societies it intends to subjugate via the imposition of Sharia into draconian Islamic totalitarianism for the purpose of stealth demographic conquest to make Islam supreme.

      In addition, non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad relative to violent jihad is employed by the Islamic world against the West astronomically far more prevalently. In fact, the threat emanating from violent jihad relative to non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad is miniscule.

      The author's reorganized trilogy of the murderous teachings of Islam needs to hit the newstands. As quickly as possible.

      Already has since 2006 @ http://www.politicalislam.com/blog/refuting-count

      • cshort

        Spot on!

      • cshort

        Islam is a compendium of the evils of mankind wrapped up in a deity that replaces the state as justification for horrible deeds. Combating the state is difficult, combating a theocracy, which is apparently the only thing smacking of religion, which PC Liberal leaders apply constitutional protection to, is going to be bloody when their population in this country reaches a tipping point that will signal our own Arab Spring. If anyone doesn't believe it, look to the modern histories of Lebanon, Egypt, Turkey, and Europe.

  • DogWithoutSlippers

    Thank you Dr. Bill for an enlightening interview. Yes, muslims do lie! Ask any of them what "dhimmi" means and they will lie about its meaning. Hence they are covering up the tracks of islamic subversion. Keep it up!

  • Roy

    Does his work discuss Islams views on people of faiths other than Judaism and Christianity? Looking at the plight of pre-Islamic Arabs, Iranian Zoroastrians and Bahais, South Asian Hindus, Jains, Sikhs, and pan Asian Buddhists, African animists, at the hands of Islam in the past and present, and also other religions in the world that have not yet been as touched directly by Islam for some reason (Native American faiths) I would hope he would devout some time on this much needed area.

  • ObamaYoMoma

    A moderate Muslim can be one who is not observant or it can be a Muslim who is following the Koran of Mecca, the religious Koran.

    I agree but nonetheless either way whether non-observant or followers of the Meccan Koran, they are not considered to be Muslims at all, but instead blasphemous apostates that per the dictates of mainstream orthodox Islam must be executed.

  • khyber

    they try to put out the light of god with their mouth.

  • Jaladhi

    There is nothing complex to understand about Islam. Islam is pure 100% unadulterated evil and it turns it's followers into zombies who do not see any difference between good and evil.. No further debate and hand wringing is necessary. We should be courageous enough to deal with this evil the same way as we do with other evils.

  • Rajiv

    Thank you for your hard work and devotion to a great cause- to tell humanity what Islam is all about. For me the actions and deeds of Muslims (and nations based on Islam) say everything I ever wanted to know about Muslims and Islam- intolerance, hatred, terror- but hopefully now the secularist and liberal leaders like Obama can be refuted when they say Islam is a religion of peace. Well, Mohamed and Allah would beg to differ on that view point.

  • aspacia

    Great essay

  • Gea

    Islam is like Nazi delusional supremacist ideology of Jew-hate and apartheid, also an ideology that promotes misogyny, pedophilia, polygamy and murder for Allahu Akbar incompatible with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights or US Constitution. Thereore, most Muslim-majority countries had refused to sign this human rights declaration, since their medieval evil sharis does not recognize rights of individuals but DEMAND SUBMISSION to a bloodthirsty Allahu Akbar, as interpreted by Imams and mullahs calling for death of the Jews and America.

    Obama and Clinton should stop making deals with those jihadists, such as Muslim Brotherhood and Taliban, because their catering to CAIR and OIC, the white washers of Islam is endangering the safety of US, EU, Australian and Asian citizens, and indeed Muslims who do not follow this ideology of hate of non-Muslims.. Islam as additional teachings of misogyny, pedophilias, polygamy and murder to get into Paradise with 72 virgins.

    We need to become independent of Arab oil and thus dry up money that finances terrorist groups around the world (by Saudis and Iranians) in addition to mosques in out midst which are the breading grounds for domestic Jihadists hell bent to destroy the civilization that feeds them.

    Islam ITSELF is the ROOT CAUSE of terrorism around the world and thus needs to be sued in the court of law as a HATE speech inciting violence and murder.

  • John

    Alloh Akbar Islam is the right way just think deeply dont close your eyes from it)))