The Occupy Movement Turns on Its Religious Supporters


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So it was only a matter of time before the Occupiers began misbehaving in the very churches that had given them sanctuary and assistance, and exposing their contempt for religious spaces and values. Members of the movement urinated on a cross inside a Brooklyn church recently and have been accused of desecrating New York’s West Park Presbyterian Church. The pastor ordered sixty protesters to leave the sanctuary after one of them stole a bronze lid from the $12,500 baptismal font. Initially a supporter of the Occupy movement, the pastor now is outraged by their behavior:

Even in the 1980s when we had a lot of crack addicts, et cetera, in the neighborhood, and even robbing people in the church, that particular religious symbol had never really been disturbed before.

Occupiers also began wreaking havoc in London’s St Paul’s Cathedral, the very one where Archbishop Williams claimed Jesus would be showing His solidarity. The registrar of St Paul’s, Nicholas Cottam, described the disruptions:

Desecration: graffiti have been scratched and painted on to the great west doors of the cathedral, the chapter house door and most notably a sacrilegious message painted on the restored pillars of the west portico.

Human defecation has occurred in the west portico entrance and inside the cathedral on several occasions.

He also noted noisy interruptions during services, foul language directed at staff, and the use of alcohol and other stimulants that appeared to “fuel the noise levels day and night.” Litter has piled up and dogs roam freely on the site. This led to more than half of the schools scheduled to visit the cathedral cancelling since the occupation began there in October. Visitor numbers were also down by half, leaving the cathedral’s cafe, shop and restaurant “faltering.”

The cathedral’s director of community and children’s services expressed concern about

people who were exhibiting behaviour that was indicative of poor mental health, people who were exhibiting signs of drug use including stumbling and compulsive behaviour, people who had body odor arising from significant periods without washing or change of clothing and a number of people who were clearly under the influence of drugs and alcohol.

In actions that are symbolic of further rejection of the religious values the left tried to ascribe to them, Occupiers recently threw Bibles at police officers from an abandoned San Francisco hotel and disrupted a Right to Life rally inside the Rhode Island state capitol, shouting down a priest’s prayer and tossing condoms on Catholic school girls.

Despite the religious left’s attempts to ordain these barbarians, the Occupiers are no more religious or spiritual than their Marxist and Communist forbearers. And now they’re finding that out the hard way.

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  • http://visionsandprinciples.blogspot.com/ InRussetShadows

    The religious left once again shows itself to be getting in the way of spreading the gospel, as expected by people who have the discernment of a stone. Wonder if they will ever hit their knees and repent for endorsing such wickedness, or even ask God to grant them wisdom?

    • Jobe

      I wonder if these dufuses, the occutards, and the "religious" left, who are no more religious than King Herod, reallly believe the idiocy that they mouth. Let's achieve equality of income by confiscation, selective taxation, and outright theft, and then all will be well. Are they too stupid to know that when the golden goose is cooked, the eggs no longer appear? These are incredibly ignorant people, or they are incredibly evil. Perhaps they are both.

  • BS77

    Whatever support Occupy had ……it's gone.

    • BS61

      It's gone temporarily, it will be back in the spring right through to Obama's campaign!

      WE think it is gone, and yes, the support for them in the polls is down, but they are not stopping.

  • Richard H

    Hahahahaha… a link to Breitbart and accusations that Occupiers are all drug-abusing rapists? Yawwwwwn. Put down the Kool-Aid and grow up; we're past this phase in the dialogue. Can we go back to the conversation about the truly nauseating levels of wealth disparity in the US?

    • Ken

      Dick?!? Can I call you Dick?? I believe it is you who should put down the Kool-Aid. And all the Leftist and Progressive literature. Also, it is not a good thing to covet something you do not have. Usually because you do not have it through your own actions and decisions. When all you uber-Lefties, Progressives, and neo-Communists can take responsibility for your own actions and quit demanding that the country "owes" you something, maybe your narrative will be bit different.

      • StephenD

        Ken, now, now. You are showing signs of logic. I'm afraid this will never do. You see, it is a zero sum game. If YOU have it, it must be that I cannot have it. So, I should find a way to take it! Makes sense…if you're a lunatic. Right…Dick?

      • BeauW

        Actually, Stephen there isn't a shred of logic in anything Ken said. He started by referring to the opposition as slang for a sex organ, then accused him of being Communist and other such claims, there's not a shred of logic anywhere in that statement. Where are the facts to back up your claims about that person, or that there isn't anything wrong with Mitt Romney paying less income taxes than most middle-class Americans.(see what I did there? its called providing facts)

        • Guest

          How about this for logic. Communists are evil. Oh wait, that's How liberal fools speak and call it logical.

          No need to waste time with liberals. They all suffer from mental damage leading them to believe in their own righteousness.

        • truckwork

          Yes BeauW, most middle class Americans do pay more in income taxes, but don't pay as much in capital gains taxes as Mr. Romney. Most of what Mr. Romney now has as income comes from investments that are taxed at a different rate than income tax. It's called capital gains tax and it's presently at 15% which helps not just Mr. Romney but anyone who holds stock in any company including the millions of Americans who hold mutual funds. However, I'll bet even before you calculate in the tax that was paid by the companies that Mr. Romney invested HIS money in, it was taxed at the highest corporate rate in the world (35%) as corporate income before he ever got it as capital gains. So if you wish to compare apples to apples rather than apples to oranges, Mr. Romneys tax rate was really 50%
          Now BeauW that's providing facts. Not just repeating the same old LIE (another sin as is Coveting others belonings.) See what I did there? That's providing FACTS and I didn't have to call you a name to do it.

          • Brain

            35% Corporate tax plus 15% capital gains tax doesn't mean being taxed 50% overall. I'll let that bid of mathematical misunderstanding slide. Try to do the math right next time, because you're making all the other people on this thread look dumb.

          • Blaze Pascal

            So what you're saying is that average Americans are overtaxed, and they should be taxed less just like Romney? OK I'll agree to that.

          • R Eskola

            Instead of insults, why don't you just do the math:

            p_tax = 1 – ( 1 – 0.15 )*( 1 – 0.35 ) = 0.4475 = 44.75 %

          • ebonystone

            Too many of these comments are confusing taxes on capital gains with taxes on dividends. For dividends, there is double taxation, since they come out of profits that a company makes, and pays corporate income taxes on. But capital gains taxes are paid on the gain one makes from the SALE of property, when one sells it for more that one paid for it. (That is, IF one sells at a profit; one can also sell at a loss, and then pay no taxes, and even take a deduction — up to a certain point — from one's income.) And there is no taxation until one sells; paper gains don't count. Example: I bought 1000 shares of XYZ Corp. 30 years ago at $10/share; its value rose nicely, reaching $100/share in 2007. But I held on to it — paying no capital gains tax — until this year, when needing the money, I sold it for only $50/share, paying capital gains tax on the $40,000 profit I actually made, not on any potential gain I could have made by selling it in 2007. The company paid dividends each year until 2008, and those were taxable each year. [cont'd]

          • ebonystone

            [cont'd]
            Also capital gains taxes are levied on anything sold at a profit — stocks, bonds, real estate, collectibles, etc. Example: I bought my Ferrari 250GT coupe 50 years ago for $12,000. I've kept it in excellent condition, and just sold it for $200,000, so I'll owe capital gains tax on the $188,000 profit. But it never owed any corporate income tax.

          • trickyblain

            200,000? Excellent condition?!

            It's a millon dollar car if in prime.

        • intrcptr2

          Dick is short for Richard, pretty boy. Yeah, there is that odd parallel you mentioned, but the oh so slight insult was not without a logical base.

          And yes, I did see what you did, oddly that's why I can type a response.

          But by repeating the nonsensical claim that Mitt pays fewer taxes than the average middle class American simply illustrates why there is no political dialogue these days; it is not true, and thus no fact.

          Focusing on wealth disparity, in and of itself, IS Marxist. Without examining why some are poor and others are not, such comparisons are worse than useless.

          • trickyblain

            Pointing out wealth disparity is Marxist? Nah.

            Ignoring wealth disparity is to invite Marxism. Over the past 20 years, middle class income has stagnated while wages at the top have multiplied. Marx predicted this being what would open the door to violent revolution. Capitalism eats itself if its masters are unchecked. Eventually there's no middle class. Ignore wealth disparity at your own peril. Pointing it out and addressing it is fighting communism!

            (Disclaimer: I do not "envy" ultra rich, am gainfully employed doing what I've always wanted to and am a homeowner in a very desirable part of the city I live in)

          • Blaze Pascal

            You are absolutely right. The middle class has shrunk drastically under obuma. Hardly anyone has a job anymore. You could say we're on the royal road to equality. Happy now?

          • R Eskola

            I think that US has actually killed her capitalism. The process started at least 80 years ago.

            The economic system we know live in on both sides of the pond is really almost exactly what Benito Mussolini described as fascism: 'Fascism could be called corporatism because it combines the power of state and the power of corporations'.

            As corporations, BM included all big companies, trade unions or any association or organization that commands any power or influence. See, MB was a marxist theorist, a syndicalist, if my memory serves me right.

            In a corporatist economy we do testify rapidly increasing economic disparity. When middle class disappears, we'll only have the poor and the very rich.

            But when we advance to full blown socialism, well only have the poor…

            Believe me, I witnessed it 'from the shadow' of the iron curtain.

            -R-

          • BS61

            However, the Warren Buffets of the world don't want income equality, they want to control us!

        • R Eskola

          How many tax dollars Mitt Romney pays then?

    • Freedom Fighter

      Oh, Richard H. You are a useful idiot……

      F.S.

      • Blaze Pascal

        no, he's a useless idiot.

    • Jobe

      Nauseating to whom? You want to be wealthy, then WORK. If you don't like someone else's wealth, then do what you do when you are confronted with someone who is better looking, a better athlete, or smarter than you are. POUT IN YOUR ROOM! But for God's sake, don't allow your commode of a mind to overflow into print any more. You embarrass yourself with your ignorance.

    • http://FreedomTorch.com/ FreedomTorch.com

      I LOVE the Left! I love them for their comedic value. They're clowns and they really make me laugh… a LOT! Their response to any information that reflects negatively on them and their ideology is to say, "we're past this phase in the conversation. Can we get back to the dialogue (always using the pompous British spelling) about how bad you guys on the right are!?" !!!! So typical. So predictable. So laughable. LOVE IT!

    • Get what you earn

      Wealth disparity generally reflects value to society disparity. The correlation is blurred by luck, by inherited wealth, and by poor family situations, but it's still a pretty strong correlation. You want more rewards from society? Try making yourself more valuable to society…. here's a hint: a degree in womyn's studies is not particularly valuable……

    • crandycrane

      There has been rape. There has been murder. Parental abuse. Much more

      Deny?

    • umustbkidding

      As if reprobates of this order have their heads screwed on straight enough to understand the difference between right and wrong.

    • BS61

      Oh sure, let's ignore the truth about death, rapes etc to talk income – idiot!

  • LonesomeStranger

    Let's see, "Wealth Disarity" – I make $60,000 a year and support a family of three. My neighbor makes $120,000 a year and supports a family of three. Am I supposed to be upset about that. What you are talking about only makes sense if you assume that everybody in your "99%" can't eat, clothe, or house themselves because the 1% has taken everything. I think what most of you are implicitly saying is that you just want more because you don't have enough – not because you can't eat etc. On the one hand your group says we need to consume less but on the other we need to "spread the wealth". I thought "wealth" was one of the problems?

    • BeauW

      Well, now since one person is somewhat ok, suddenly the whole argument goes up in flames because one person disagrees, or doesn't fall into that category. It is not about every single person in the United States not having anything, its about the general idea that people with a lot of money are finding it extremely easy to make tons more, based on the facts that they have lower income taxes and that banks have used horrendous business practices to negatively effect millions of Americans.

      • intrcptr2

        Were legally bound to "have used horrendous business practices".

      • truckwork

        Then lets talk groups of people and lets use FACTS from the IRS in 2008, shall we?

        The top 1% of earners earned 20% of all income earned, but paid 38% of all taxes payed. The top 10% of earners earned 45% of all income earned, but paid 70% of the taxes, and the bottom 50% of earners earned 13% of all income but paid just 3% of the taxes.

        The top 10% of earners paid 70% of all income revenue but the bottom paid only 3%. Your right, that's not fair. I think the bottom 50% needs to pay MORE in income tax to make it fair!

      • Blaze Pascal

        the 1% are not to blame.

  • olgalazin

    Stupid gibberish. That is what you are posting. No analytical writing whatsoever. Reinstate the Glass-Steagull Act of 1933 for consumer protection against vulture capitalists and banks, and things will get better. No more excrements in the streets- Juan D Portado

    • Guest

      All the analytical rhetoric in the world wouldn't help liberals. They name call, slander, and blah, blah, blah.

      Not worth wasting time on.

    • Jeamar

      Juan the Glass-Steagull Act was repealed in 1999. It usually only takes a few days or weeks to house-train dogs and the same amount of time for cats using a litterbox. How long should it take to train OWS not to defecate in public or sacred places? Surely these OWS have as much intelligence (although obviously not the common decency) of so-called dumb animals.

  • oldtimer

    They are anti anything that doesn't get them what they want, free….They take advantage of everything they can as long as it suits their purpose.

    • BS77

      The occupy puppet people think they are heroes of THE REVOLUTION….but, in fact, they are deluded losers frustrated by their infantile demands having not been met. When the terrorist thug, played by Gene Simmons in some movie tells Rutger Hauer (the good guy)"I am a soldeir of God" or some such clap trap…Rutger Hauer tells him, "No, you are just a fly on a pile of excrement."

      • fiddler

        It's called liberal tribalism

  • tanstaafl

    Ever lurching towards the abyss…..

  • theleastthreat

    Imagine how bad they'll have to get before the rest of the Left turns on them.

    • Toa

      I suspect that the "Mainstream Left" will not turn against them until they have served the extent of their purposes like, for instance, "occupying" polling places to "persuade" voters across the country a few months from now. When these "heroes of the working class" are no longer useful, then it will be "Krystallnacht" time.

  • Ano

    The Agenda 21 movement is working folks…..please wake up and learn. It will answer all your questions and point you in the direction of the truth. It is the 800lb. gorilla in all our lives. This is what ALL Americans need to focus on and root out. The wind is closing on saving our nation. Stop falling prey to all the distractions and learn all you can about Agenda 21.

    • RichM

      Ano has this pegged exactly right. This is implementation of Agenda 21. The Occupy "One Demand" is for "Abolition of Empire" and replacement of empire with "Earth Community". Earth Community is to be based upon the Earth Charter. Earth Charter is the outcome of the 1992 Earth Summit, a.k.a. Agenda 21. I also wrote about this and posted information at the following:
      http://www.facebook.com/occupydangers

      This document is a long read, but it is impossible to condense the "global revolution" down to the Reader's Digest 500 words or less version.

  • Brujo Blanco

    OWS needs to be dealt with as organized crime. They are engaging in all types of criminal activity. The authorities failed to act on violations of law as they occurred and now others will have to pay the price. These demonstrators have clearly identified themselves as communist by word of mouth and/or actions.

    • fiddler

      As are their complicit brethren in the news media. To quote Sergeant Schultz: "I know NOTHING; I see NOTHING".

  • BS77

    The Occupy mob screamers think they are "heroes of the Revolution" but they are really just steaming garbage. When terrorist thug played by Gene SImmons insists he is a soldier of God, Rutger Hauer dispels the illusion and says, "No, you are just a fly on a pile of s—-.

  • mrbean

    America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If the leftists can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within. The New Left are useful idiot indoctrinates of the Old Left. They learned this well during the Vietnam War by aligning themsleves with and aiding and abetting America's enemies, by their free love and drug culture, and their assaults on America's Judeo-Christian heritage – and they have been do it ever since.

  • AntiSharia

    When you lie down with dogs don't be surprised when you end up scratching fleas.

  • Jobe

    Pathetic losers have always schemed to get dishonestly and easily what the rest of us have worked for. This group, the occutards, are no different. They cry and whine just as do small children. They stamp their feet, hold their breath until they turn blue, and scream and hollar to get attention. They need to be viewed, not as a movement (except perhaps as a bowel movement) but rather, as individuals engaged in criminal behavior.

    I remember reading something by one of the 60's radicals, Hoffman, or Brown, somebody, and the gist of what he was saying was that the protestors who siezed the administration building of I believe it was Columbia University, were the most surprised people in the world when their demands, especially complete amnesty, were met with surrender by the University.

    • mrbean

      I used to know a kid about 6 or 7 when I was young that when he couldn't get his way in a store he would throw a raging tantrum and deliberately pee and poo his pants. Hmmmmm… come to think of it were some of the occupiers doing this in the street, on police cars, on doorsteps and entrances to businesses? Hmmmm…

  • Questions

    "Wanted Dead or Alive" — a classic from the Eighties!! I'm glad someone here remembers this flick.

    • BS77

      Thanks for the info….I could not remember the film title. Like the Delta Force, this film was gloriously NON PC….terrorists were treated to hot lead instead of liberal appeasement.

      • Rifleman

        "%#$!@ the bonus!" *Ping* classic movie moment. I had forgotten about the fly line.

  • Texasron

    Why is it that the Occuopiers generally cover their faces? No one in the Tea Party had to resort to such a thing. Is it because they are afraid that they will be recognized and found out to be the worthless individuals they are?

    • Blaze Pascal

      they are ashamed of being so stupid. Good for them.

    • BS77

      They are worse than worthless…they are destructive ingrates….losers, drop outs and bums who are smashing windows and burning garbage bins as an expression of their dismal lives.

  • fiddler

    Oh I bet Bill Ayers feels the "Good Old Days" have returned: bombing police stations and the Pentagon. What next?

  • dysgenic

    If the financial sector behaved with integrity instead of criminality the Occupy movement would not have seen its opening.

    • Blaze Pascal

      no one has really explained to me what crime they did, just that they're really really bad.

    • Rifleman

      The financial sector was operating under government regulations and enforcement, maybe you should look in government for your criminals.

  • WilliamJamesWard

    Riot has it's own dynamic and energies, it is understood by the police who must
    stop it and prevent it but with the effete political posture of PC no direction is given
    which would uphold society's laws. In fact it seems that political elites are wanting
    the offending vermin to succeed in their antics, thus cowering the citizenry who must
    be accepting of the violations. It is a form of cultural deflation of American citizens
    right to safety and good order. The crimes of OWS can be blamed on leadership
    that violates their oath to uphold the law and they should be removed from office.
    William

  • BS77

    Occupy…..straight out of Animal Farm……These are the pigs that want to be more equal than all others…..they want income redistribution, your prosperity, your property, the fruits of your hard work, investments and business ideas…..alll for them because they have nothing, do not want to work or risk….Classic Orwellian theme

  • g moore

    christ would say: "render unto caesar"

  • Stephen_Brady

    There's only one thing that I can thank OWS for. After all of these years, I once again get to say,"Smelly hippies, get off the lawn." …

    • WilliamJamesWard

      Who would have thought after all of this time, kind of like hives, pop up every
      now and again………………………….William

  • BS77

    Religious LEFT….now there's a contradiction in terms…. atheist Marxists pretending to be pious.

    • WilliamJamesWard

      Exactly!!!…………………………..William

  • Richard Terrell

    By their fruit ye shall know them. These churches are getting exactly what they have asked for, by trading in the Kingdom of God for hopes of earthly utopia via collectivism. They really seem to believe that Jesus advocated the forceful looting of some people for the benefit of others by corrupt political entities. The really tragic thing today is that reading a story about people defecating and urinating inside a church's public spaces IS NOT REALLY ALL THAT SURPRISING!! When you've got "theologians" like Jim Wallis out there, what would you expect?

  • BS77

    Yeah, burn a garbage dumpster….burn a flag…break a window….You occupy morons are real brave heroes……you should be ashamed of yourselves.

  • RichMedford

    The occupy movement has a religious agenda that is hostile towards the monotheistic faiths. Occupy Global (an Occupy General Assembly working group) writes that the movement will soon reveal there is much more to it than what meets the eye. This movement is about "conscious evolution" and calls for adherence to the conscious evolution cosmology as outlined by Barbara Marx Hubbard. It is a violent ideology which identifies half of the earth's population as either a cancer in the social body or worthless eaters.

    For details, see http://www.facebook.com/occupydangers

    Excerpts from Barbara Marx Hubbard's Book of Co-Creation are at the bottom of the article.

  • UCSPanther

    I knew these losers would be back like a bad lunch. I fear we have more summers of parks being reduced to cesspools, complete with health code violations, infestations of druggies, vagrants and other dregs of society and major clean-up after they are cleared ahead of us.

  • mrbean

    For Brain and Escola. If I live in New York City or its suburbs and rent, and I earn $100,000 a year I pay 35% federal taxes, 11% state taxes, 3.0% New York City taxes, 7.65 % social security and medicare, then there is the hidden taxes and sales taxes, so I get to keep at best $4 out of evry $10 I earn.

    • ebonystone

      Actually, if you made $100,000 in 2011, and are single, and are unable to itemize, your federal income figures as follows:
      gross $100,000
      minus 5,800 standard deduction
      leaves 94,200
      minus 3,700 exemption
      leaves 90,500 taxable income
      Then, from the Tax Table is $18,964.
      18,964 divided by 100,000 is 18.964%, not 35%.
      Don't know what your state income tax actually works out to. Still, I agree that altogether it's too much.

  • OldmanRick

    The occupy crowd believes in do unto others before they can do unto you. They only care about their rights, not the rights of others.

  • guest

    The only kind of person who would urinate on a cross or disrupt a Christian sanctuary would be a Muslim. They have desecrated churches and Christian symbols before.
    OWS has turned from its religious supporters? I doubt it's turned from its Islamic supporters. If anything, the OWS movement will hold them close; they need the violence and chaos Islam threatens.

  • cynthia curran

    Well, the Republicans along with the Democratics have pump in a lot of poor people from immirgation. No wonder the left is crazy now. Wages have dropped because of too much competition between native born and foreign born. Obama is bascially copying Bush in terms of letting more foreign born into the country and driving wages down.

  • Fred Dawes

    The so called occupy movement is now ocupy with FBI And governmen people it is how this country is build and it owned the the KKK And all movement are owned by this government.

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  • davarino

    And? The video is very white washed. Only shows the clean, peaceful side of the OWS. I like how it ends with a very communistic red poster, which belies the movement.

  • BeauW

    Much like this whole article is very white-washed as showing the hateful, evil Communist side of OWS. See what I did there? Get a clue.

  • Guest

    Communists are evil so what's your point?

  • intrcptr2

    To white-wash something means to clean up what is dirty, or evil in this case.

    This article is not white-washing anything, it is laying bare the ugly truth. It is not possible to have both good and evil at these gatherings while calling them good. The presence of the evil is what defines it, just as the absence of such things helps define the Tea Party rallies.

  • BS61

    Yes, I did see what you did! Their is only one communist side to the OWS clan, and the useful idiots